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  1. #1081

    Emperor night club

    Brief update regarding the popular Emperor night club. Second onLH visit to Myanmar, special thanks to bigswingingdon for showing us the ropes!

    Don't be misled by the ghetto type setting of the street or the filthy entrance / elevator. The actual night club is ok although not large. There are about 12 tables with love chairs. The stage is enough for 6-8 girls to parade themselves and is very well lighted. The surrounding tables dark, intentionally. There are also about 5-6 private rooms. Entrance fee is 5000 kyat pp or 15000 for a room.

    We got the private room and ordered some beers. Went through 3 lineups before taking two tall shapely model types, one 21 the other 23. Good vibes with both but they refused to budge on price: $80 and $100. Money not issue per se, but didn't want to contribute to price inflation. So politely asked them to leave and get another lineup. Found a spinner, but very GFE. Again said $50 plus tip. She also asked for $80 and explained mamasan controlled price! So called mamasan in and negotiated to $60.

    By the time we left at 10 pm the place was packed. Total bill for a couple of beers and room, 2500 kyat. Primarily Asian clientele, with spot of westerners. My wingman's girl was a starfish. I went 3 rounds with my girl before she bailed at 7 am.

    Pictures self explanatory, even had mamasan's. Asked her to come for $200 but she politely declined, LOL.
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  2. #1080

    Travelling to Yangon

    Hi guys,

    I will be in Yangon, at the start of August, I have signed up for this forum & tried a Pm for BigSwingingDon & Kuranda10 a couple of weeks ago. So far none of them have replied.

    If there is anyone else out there who can help me, it would be much appreciated.

    It will be my first time in Burma (I am coming in from Thailand) and it would be helpful if I had a guide as I don't speak the local language.

    Cheers for any help.

  3. #1079

    Entertainment Guide for Yangon - $18

    OK, finally my membership has been activated and I can accept Private Messages (PMs) here's my pitch:

    Expert Guide to Night Life in Yangon. Are you visiting Yangon and looking for some evening entertainment? This is a great place for mongering, but it has some challenges. The ladies don't speak any English or only very little. The clubs are dark. It is hard to get action during the daytime without contacts. But, I can help make your visit easy.

    I have been guiding gentlemen in Yangon since 2012- showing them the best ladies. I speak English and native Burmese. I know the clubs and the secret places. I have a database of ladies, but I don't get paid by them I work only for you.

    I can help you at the hotels. I know many of the doormen. I can escort the ladies directly to your room no "walk of shame" through the tourists and backpackers.

    Why waste even one night going to the wrong places at the wrong time and paying the wrong prices? Let me show you around Yangon. With my help you will save money on the ladies and get better quality. I work for $18 + tip. If you aren't happy then you pay nothing.

    Afternoon services at your hotel too. Taxi service available.

    Below are a few of the recent ladies I have found for clients. Enjoy.

    Thank you,

    Big Don.

    P.S. Some old timer guys like Golfino know everything already and I can't help him, or some guys like to waste their time, but if you are new or have limited time, I make your experience much better or you don't pay me anything.

    IMPORTANT: the *only* way to contact me is via ISG Private Message (PM). You must be a paying member to send and receive PMs. If you aren't a paying member on ISG then sign-up for $19/ year. You can then PM and see photos. Don't post an e-mail address or phone number it will just get deleted.
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  4. #1078

    Tall Burmese Girls? Why Myanmar?

    I agree with Golfinos reply here. If you are totally interested in tall girls, you will not find an abundance in Yangon. What you find in Yangon is an abundance of younger, fresher girls who are new to the business. Some very naive, many warm and friendly. Most that I like are fairly passive. By nature most Burmese like Thais are gentle people. I like the less experienced warmer less jaded vibe here in Yangon vs all the pros in LOS. But the town is dirty the clubs not well developed and constantly changing. The scene is changing quickly. Come soon if you are modestly interested.

    If tall girls are your thing. Definitely skip the Philippines, but try China or Hong Kong. Lots of tall lovelies in these places. But will cost you US $120+ in the major cities.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonjai  [View Original Post]
    I'm thinking of flying to Yangoon from Thailand on a short trip. I'm only interested in tall females (more than 165 cm /5'4") and I wonder how tall the chicks who work in those places like the Emperor are. I imagine that the average girl there is shorter than what I need, but perhaps there are always some who are that tall? Thai bar gals are usually short but some city agogos here do have model-type (in height) staff, even if for rather hefty price premium.

  5. #1077
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonjai  [View Original Post]
    the price comparison between the two countries. My impression is that Burmese top class maidens are around $80 per night and there is no barfine to pay. That compares with prices on beer bar girls in Thailand. However, better quality chicks found in some Thai agogos cost minimum $100 with bar fine and up to just under $200 for the most demanding dancers. So it seems better-than-average girls are a bit cheaper in Burma?
    Are you serious, you want to go somewhere else for the only reason, Bangkok most in demand gogo girls and barfine are too expensive for you? (If so, there's the Philippines.) Everywhere on earth there is premium price on beauty, of the alpha female. Just the way it goes. In Yangon, fashion show girls will charge higher than the baseline, which is $80 now, more if they don't like the looks (or smell) of you, maybe $70 for girls who don't get much business (for obvious reason). And if 'better quality' to you means in addition to looks, girl with language skill, education, personality, independence then Thailand is better because in Myanmar there is no freelance scene: girls are poor from village, like Isaan girl and controlled by mamasan, they are not at liberty to deviate from what they're told to do. This has been discussed here previously. We're waiting to see how the scene evolves, but so far nothing really yet. But if you are truly in search of highest quality, you can join the Singaporoids, Taiwanics and Hong Kongs et. Al. Who come to Myanmar to purchase girls (a separate topic) for export.

    And factor in Yangon hotel more expensive than same quality standard in Bangkok. Plus, to get decent meal or food (much less cuisine) is a major task, a real challenge here.

  6. #1076
    Quote Originally Posted by Golfinho  [View Original Post]
    As you've imagined, most are shorter that what you need, although 'there are always some. ' As for Emperor specifically, it is known to one and all in this town as place for 'small lady. ' Comparing to Thailand, you can expect pretty much the same in terms of height. And, cost, too for that matter. City agogos? Nyet, not here.
    Thanks Golfinho. I'm a bit confused about the price comparison between the two countries. My impression is that Burmese top class maidens are around $80 per night and there is no barfine to pay. That compares with prices on beer bar girls in Thailand. However, better quality chicks found in some Thai agogos cost minimum $100 with bar fine and up to just under $200 for the most demanding dancers. So it seems better-than-average girls are a bit cheaper in Burma?

  7. #1075
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonjai  [View Original Post]
    I'm thinking of flying to Yangoon from Thailand on a short trip. I'm only interested in tall females (more than 165 cm /5'4") and I wonder how tall the chicks who work in those places like the Emperor are. I imagine that the average girl there is shorter than what I need, but perhaps there are always some who are that tall? Thai bar gals are usually short but some city agogos here do have model-type (in height) staff, even if for rather hefty price premium.
    As you've imagined, most are shorter that what you need, although 'there are always some. ' As for Emperor specifically, it is known to one and all in this town as place for 'small lady. ' Comparing to Thailand, you can expect pretty much the same in terms of height. And, cost, too for that matter. City agogos? Nyet, not here.

  8. #1074
    I'm thinking of flying to Yangoon from Thailand on a short trip. I'm only interested in tall females (more than 165 cm /5'4") and I wonder how tall the chicks who work in those places like the Emperor are. I imagine that the average girl there is shorter than what I need, but perhaps there are always some who are that tall? Thai bar gals are usually short but some city agogos here do have model-type (in height) staff, even if for rather hefty price premium.

  9. #1073

    Jackson. Can you make this change?

    The Burma forum is pretty dead. It might help if all the information was at least in one primary thread: "Yangon / Rangoon".

    Also if you are updating, you might begin using the country's more recognized and preferred name "Myanmar" More and more people are using this and "Burma" sounds outdated to those of us who frequent Southeast Asia. But that may be a big hassle. Just a suggestion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seeko  [View Original Post]
    Yes, it should go back to the older name. Or, at least: Rangoon / Yangon.

    Seeko.

  10. #1072

    Rename the thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Bkkdog  [View Original Post]
    So I came to read about the topic on this thread and actually this thread has nothing to do with its title.
    Yes, it should go back to the older name. Or, at least: Rangoon / Yangon.

    Seeko.

  11. #1071

    Burma vs Laos?

    So I came to read about the topic on this thread and actually this thread has nothing to do with its title.

  12. #1070
    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarok42  [View Original Post]
    Was taken to Emperor on a business trip last weekend but found it really boring. Did something happen? Did we totally miss something? Or is it just a scam for guys to spend tons of money buying them flowers with little if any payoff. If anyone asks I would recommend brothers to skip this cash gab place and spend your time elsewhere.
    What you witnessed was traditional in this country -- in Yangon and elsewhere. These girls you saw actually visit several venues throughout a night, doing more or less the same act. The something you totally missed was action. All you had to do was ask. If you're paying (tons of money?) they're available.

  13. #1069

    Does Emperor suck?

    Was taken to Emperor on a business trip last weekend but found it really boring. All they ladies on the floor show just walked their paths really bored and not interested, and then they stood there while men bought them flower wreaths at 5000 a pop. But then all they did was stand there while the same music played reapeatedly for about 30 min. When they finally moved, it was so that the girls who didn't get many flowers left and the ones who were in the lead stood there, for ANOTHER 30 min while music played.

    Our table was never approached by other ladies for conversation or anything like they do in clubs in Beijing. All the time just watched women getting wreathes but no other action, some people in my group got really bored and started to doze off so we left without even the possibility of gettting some action. Did something happen? Did we totally miss something? Or is it just a scam for guys to spend tons of money buying them flowers with little if any payoff.

    If anyone asks I would recommend brothers to skip this cash gab place and spend your time elsewhere.

  14. #1068
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanuk327  [View Original Post]
    I also stayed in Grand United hotel and had no problems bringing the girl in. Security guard downstairs took her I'd and we went to elevator. The girl gets 50% of the money. Note that Burma girls are not shaved. She did BBBJ and CIM, no problems. They all work through pimps inside the club who try to sell girls. He usually says like "This girl wants to sleep with you". Most girls come to your table to get your attention...
    A question about Grand United: when the girl leaves her card with the guard, does she have to tell him which room she's headed to? This is something which has bothered me about some of the GF hotels I've stayed at in Thailand and Burma -- the hotel winds up with a written record that the girl visited my room. Who knows how long they keep those records around?

    Also, do freelancers (that is, girls who aren't there with a pimp) work at those clubs in the Emperor / Chinatown area?

  15. #1067
    Quote Originally Posted by JohnTraveller  [View Original Post]
    Crazy how prices have increased. Less than two years ago it was 30 bucks + 5 for taxi-money / tip at Emperor. Usually that was all night, but sometimes just shorttime.

    So that's doubling in two years. It seems that previous low-price destinations like Burma and Cambodia are catching up with high-price destinations like Thailand. Costs will probably will be the same in two more years. But will quality / choices / health be the same? Of course not. So there will be no reason to go to Burma or Cambodia for mongering.
    Confirmed. The new prices as are reported. Collusion at work. The unfortunate thing is that everyone seem to be trying to get in on the action, demanding 80 dollars. Not that we mind paying the going rate, but we are seeing the same trend that did in The Music Club, namely ugly unsightly things are turning up, taking over the place, demanding 80 dollars. It's incredible how fast a once great scene came to ruination. Pure greed and anyone who experienced Viet Nam twenty years ago knows this all too well. Still, there's novelty value, but for anyone who experienced the good old, all too recent days, the changes, the new reality is very disappointing. Tell the truth, you had to see this coming. The other thing is the price of decent hotels: good luck getting something good for under a $100 this winter.

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