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    Ragnarok42

    Quickie on Kitty

    Back in town for the weekend and since my freebies are still on vacation I called in from Kitty. Girl arrived pretty quickly and was more or less what I asked for. I swear my luggage weighed more than she did but her enthusiasm made up for anything she lacked in the looks department. Treated me almost like my freebie and we enjoyed finding each other's sensitive areas.

    Paid her 700 for her time and look forward to seeing another girl tonight. Too bad seems many girls are still out for CNY so choice is a little limited.

  2. #11103

    Just act decent

    Never seen this here compared to say Thailand. As long as you act defensive and stay away from aggressive touts you will never have a problem in BJ. Yes people can be rude. Yes there are scams. But it is a very safe city for a foreigner acting decent. Just walking with a hot girl is never any issue. Try that in Mongolia or Thailand, hell I was even attacked in my own country walking with my GF having a migrant background.

    In our eyes Chinese may lack manners but they only get aggressive if directly provoked. Most are afraid of foreigners having bad temper and being violent whether this is true or not. Thai or Pinoy will be happy to gang up on a foreigner with little provocation needed but in China a foreigner beaten up still creates issues most people want to avoid.

    I only got in issues where I was starting the aggression and not backing down myself. Which I learned from. If you are a guest and in a weak position act accordingly and you will be safe. Charlie Chan is for the movies.

    China has many issues, especially now but no reason to fear for your safety. Yet.

    FA.

    Quote Originally Posted by RugEater  [View Original Post]
    About 3 years ago there was a bit of an Anti foreigner campaign because some drunk idiot tried to a girl on a public street in late afternoon. Anyway, beware of Sanlitun especially if you are cracker walking around at night with some asian chick. There are guys that are driving around in cars and will jump out to give foreigners a beating. The police will not do much to help you and to make it worst, one of my friends that happen to fight back and injured the attackers had to pay for his attackers medical bill. This is the same for getting into fights with the bouncers at the club, they jump you with a couple of others, never a fair fight, then if the police comes, they will have their friends say they are patrons and you started the fight etc. The police will help them extort some sort of payment from your or you will end up spending the night at the police station.

    Be careful of walking around late night with an Asian girl.

  3. #11102

    Again unconfirmed and misleading

    Rugeater,

    This is only your fourth post and all you report is in my personal experiences misleading and unconfirmed. The area you describe here has but few MP that do not offer anything beyond HJ at partially inflated prices (similar to DongBa). Last time I was there they had even a police car parked outside and I was quoted 400 for a HJ.

    I am happy to be corrected but so far there never was any confirmation for your intelligence on Dongba and this one. I may be blind and stupid but living here for years I wonder why you are the only one spotting these miracle places. There are a few cheap BBS further on North side of the street and quite some upscale huge KTV but the MP are all either closed, veggie or scam. And this is based on multiple observations over the last year and a half.

    So either under build your information with some facts or stop what I judge as misleading information.

    No offence but I simply cannot confirm any of the services you report about, I wish we had more solid FR here but they should be based on facts not assumptions.

    FA.

    Quote Originally Posted by RugEater  [View Original Post]
    I posted Dong Ba a few months ago, its still happening there. Chaoyang Bei road outside 5th ring road has loads of MP, actually too many for me to even go to but the ones I have has HJ, BBBJ all for under 300 and also FS at same price. They are on south side of road pass 5th ring. If you take a taxi, its a big block of tan color buildings and the bottom strip mall is all MP. Go a bit farther and look for the smaller ones.

    For CY area, southwest corner of work stadium go west about 50 meters on south side of street there is a small alley that has a BBS up the stairs. FS 400, CBJ 300, HJ 168.4 workers, two cuties with small titties. Quick service, well unless you are john holmes or jeremy iron, its usually done in 20 min.

    A week before CNY a few of the cuties in the larger MP on on ChunXiu was offering full service before going home.

  4. #11101

    FS massage parlors

    I posted Dong Ba a few months ago, its still happening there. Chaoyang Bei road outside 5th ring road has loads of MP, actually too many for me to even go to but the ones I have has HJ, BBBJ all for under 300 and also FS at same price. They are on south side of road pass 5th ring. If you take a taxi, its a big block of tan color buildings and the bottom strip mall is all MP. Go a bit farther and look for the smaller ones.

    For CY area, southwest corner of work stadium go west about 50 meters on south side of street there is a small alley that has a BBS up the stairs. FS 400, CBJ 300, HJ 168.4 workers, two cuties with small titties. Quick service, well unless you are john holmes or jeremy iron, its usually done in 20 min.

    A week before CNY a few of the cuties in the larger MP on on ChunXiu was offering full service before going home.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aaveyln  [View Original Post]
    Hi everybody,

    Just got relocated from to Beijing from Shenzhen / HK and I'm having difficulties "relaxing" here.

    Since I don't like outcalling I'd prefer finding some safe massage parlours with good and full service.

    I only know happymassage as a reference and so far I've only found susie's place but they don't offer full service.

    Cheers and a late happy chinese new years.

    Best aavelyn.

  5. #11100

    Safety

    About 3 years ago there was a bit of an Anti foreigner campaign because some drunk idiot tried to [CodeWord123] a girl on a public street in late afternoon. Anyway, beware of Sanlitun especially if you are cracker walking around at night with some asian chick. There are guys that are driving around in cars and will jump out to give foreigners a beating. The police will not do much to help you and to make it worst, one of my friends that happen to fight back and injured the attackers had to pay for his attackers medical bill. This is the same for getting into fights with the bouncers at the club, they jump you with a couple of others, never a fair fight, then if the police comes, they will have their friends say they are patrons and you started the fight etc. The police will help them extort some sort of payment from your or you will end up spending the night at the police station.

    Be careful of walking around late night with an Asian girl.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beijing4987  [View Original Post]
    There have been reports of foreigners beaten by drunks in the Sanlitun bar district. I find the Beijing people aggressive, especially in the metro, but also on the streets. They come at you, expecting you yo get out of THEIR way. Also I've had problems with the cab drivers. I get in the front seat, hand them the destination in Chinese and refuse to get out if they balk. Their license is right in front of you and they can be reported. Can't blame them for the bilious humor. It's a tough way to make money.

  6. #11099
    Quote Originally Posted by Aaveyln  [View Original Post]
    Sure.

    I went only to two place for relaxation in Shenzhen, one was the oriental palm springs in Futian and the Perthden hotel spa near Luohuo station.

    Oriental palm spring is strictly a clean place BUT if you go and had a couple of massages with the same girl and get her wechat there are possibilities to "ask her out".

    Perthden is maybe quite well known, since it's high rated on, you can get massage with BBBJ for 298 RMB. The interesting part is that only recently (starting end of January) and by accident I got to know a guy who worked there who started a small "hidden" operation where you can get full service in the Vienna hotel nearby. For 498 you can get 60 min with one girl (one pop) and for 598 two pops in 80 min (both are discounted prices when you have them on wechat).

    The service is fine / great considering that it's one of the few places in Shenzhen offering full service and girls are still eager to work I guess.

    A word of advice though, so far they mainly target "HK market" so it's not completely foreigner friendly and the girls I've been with told me they don't like to work on foreigners because they are afraid "it" is too big and will hurt them.

    Cheers mate.

    P.S.: I'm Chinese so I guess there are "some" advantages.
    Why in the Beijing folder and not Shenzhen, even after asked?

  7. #11098
    Sure.

    I went only to two place for relaxation in Shenzhen, one was the oriental palm springs in Futian and the Perthden hotel spa near Luohuo station.

    Oriental palm spring is strictly a clean place BUT if you go and had a couple of massages with the same girl and get her wechat there are possibilities to "ask her out".

    Perthden is maybe quite well known, since it's high rated on, you can get massage with BBBJ for 298 RMB. The interesting part is that only recently (starting end of January) and by accident I got to know a guy who worked there who started a small "hidden" operation where you can get full service in the Vienna hotel nearby. For 498 you can get 60 min with one girl (one pop) and for 598 two pops in 80 min (both are discounted prices when you have them on wechat).

    The service is fine / great considering that it's one of the few places in Shenzhen offering full service and girls are still eager to work I guess.

    A word of advice though, so far they mainly target "HK market" so it's not completely foreigner friendly and the girls I've been with told me they don't like to work on foreigners because they are afraid "it" is too big and will hurt them.

    Cheers mate.

    P.S.: I'm Chinese so I guess there are "some" advantages.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikksman  [View Original Post]
    Would you kindly share some of the places where you received these "relaxing" services in Shenzhen (since the last big Yanda)?

    Perhaps post your experience and knowledge in the Shenzhen forum for the benefit of those members.

    Ikksman.

  8. #11097
    Quote Originally Posted by Aaveyln  [View Original Post]
    Hi everybody,
    Just got relocated from to Beijing from Shenzhen / HK and I'm having difficulties "relaxing" here.
    Since I don't like outcalling I'd prefer finding some safe massage parlours with good and full service.
    {S N I P}
    Would you kindly share some of the places where you received these "relaxing" services in Shenzhen (since the last big Yanda)?

    Perhaps post your experience and knowledge in the Shenzhen forum for the benefit of those members.

    Ikksman.

  9. #11096
    Hi there,

    I just happened to move to this area, what's the name of that spa / massage place?

    Thanks a lot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kajos  [View Original Post]
    I just have to say again that there is an excellent massage and HJ place next to gongti north gate / chunxiu lu area for a small fraction of the crazy prices posted here. Massage is consistently one of the best oil massages in town, really excellent. Price varies from 168? For basic up to RMB 228? For better quality organic oil, also have a great hot stone oil massage for when the weather cools down. All massage services are up to 50% off with purchase of a discount card. HJ is also by far the best in Beijing, add RMB 200 to your massage cost. Since I bought a discount card, I'm usually paying about RMB 80 to 100 for the massage plus RMB 200 extra. The girls are mid 20s to early 30s, good to great looking and pretty enjoyable company if you speak Chinese. The shop owner is in her late 20s, cute and petite and has professional HJ / sauna training. The girls have mostly worked at other high-end spas for several years and get HJ training from her. The location is safe, clean and well decorated in a mixed-use apartment building.

    Since there is an ongoing crackdown and regardless of price this is by far my favorite massage (and / or HJ) place in Beijing, I won't publish their info here. Just PM me for more info. They actually have another shop in the Chaoyangmen area but this is the one I always go to.

    FS and other extras are available from some of the girls during outcall. Outcall is available 24 hours for most areas inside 4th ring road.

  10. #11095

    New in Beijing scene

    Hi everybody,

    Just got relocated from to Beijing from Shenzhen / HK and I'm having difficulties "relaxing" here.

    Since I don't like outcalling I'd prefer finding some safe massage parlours with good and full service.

    I only know happymassage as a reference and so far I've only found susie's place but they don't offer full service.

    Cheers and a late happy chinese new years.

    Best aavelyn.

  11. #11094
    Quote Originally Posted by ValleyMonger  [View Original Post]
    I appreciate your responses. As you mentioned, I was not asking for any contact information.

    If I broke any rules of this forum, I apologize.

    Again, it's going to be my first time in China, more specifically in Beijing, and while I am not asking for contact / addresses info, I would appreciate insights from more experienced members of this site with regards to, for instance:

    - Is it safe to go for a walk (I am going to be in the City center)? I don't speak / understand Chinese, by the way.

    - Is it usually safe to go to massage places if I don't speak Chinese?

    - How safe is to go out at night alone, say, to a bar / pub? Or do you recommend going to 5 star hotel bars instead?

    Anyway, any help / info for a newbie in China will be greatly appreciated!
    You absolutely did not break any rules. Taxis in the sanlitune area will all know the hotspots but it would still be wise to store some of the Chinese names of the places in Chinese characters on your smart phone so you can show the taxi. Make sure you take the business card for your hotel to show taxis. I was in Beijing many times and never once was I pick pocked or harassed or even felt in any danger what so ever. Shenzhen and Tianjin were however different stories for me. Massage places are also very safe, I mean the main bath houses which could be quite big with many customers. However the cost will be about 800 Yuan for FS. You can have fun in the 5 star hotel bars, the sanlitune bars or the local bars but I have always had more fun in the bars where expats hang out. The girls speak English and picking up freebies is always a stronger possibility with the back up plan for an easy Pay for play hook up if needed. I have never frequented those BBS places and would never recommend it. Look in the classifieds and also call up some of the outcall massage places. Good luck.

  12. #11093
    Quote Originally Posted by ValleyMonger  [View Original Post]
    - Is it safe to go for a walk (I am going to be in the City center)? I don't speak / understand Chinese, by the way.

    - Is it usually safe to go to massage places if I don't speak Chinese?

    - How safe is to go out at night alone, say, to a bar / pub? Or do you recommend going to 5 star hotel bars instead?

    Anyway, any help / info for a newbie in China will be greatly appreciated!
    I have lived in major cities around the globe and Beijing is the one that by far and away the safest I have ever felt! I have walked home from different locations using both main and side streets at very late hours (2-5 AM) and never once have I had any problems. Compared to other major cities in China the amount of street crime (Pickpockets, mugging, [CodeWord123], etc.) is significantly lower. I recall an incident during the build-up to the Olympics where a tourist was stabbed by a man at the Bell Tower. The Chinese there threw the man that stabbed the tourist to his death from the tower.

    I speak very little Chinese and have never had any problems at any of the massage places. If you are in the central portion of the city most will have an English menu and the girls may even know a few words of English. But don't expect to have any great conversations. I would recommend that you get the Baidu Translate app for your mobile phone. It does a good job of translating English to Chinese (although it usually has syntax errors on long sentences) and has a spoken conversation translation tool that I use very often in massage places (the girls love having this so they can talk to you).

    If you stick to the bars that are frequented by foreigners you probably won't have any problems. Unless you cause them (by being a bad drunk). This site will tell you about bars like Maggie's and Chocolate where you can find girls that will go home with you. But remember if they are wearing a name tag they work at the bar and their job is to get you to buy more drinks (usually expensive ones) and will not leave with you at the end of the night.

    Hope you have fun while in my second home town. A lovely place with great attractions. Both for tourists and mongers.

  13. #11092

    Safety in Beijing

    There have been reports of foreigners beaten by drunks in the Sanlitun bar district. I find the Beijing people aggressive, especially in the metro, but also on the streets. They come at you, expecting you yo get out of THEIR way. Also I've had problems with the cab drivers. I get in the front seat, hand them the destination in Chinese and refuse to get out if they balk. Their license is right in front of you and they can be reported. Can't blame them for the bilious humor. It's a tough way to make money.

  14. #11091
    Quote Originally Posted by ValleyMonger  [View Original Post]
    I appreciate your responses. As you mentioned, I was not asking for any contact information.

    !
    Compare to the cities in the US, Beijing is a very safe city. You can walk around 24/7 within the metropolitan area as long as you are walking along the big lighted street. Just do not go into the small dark alley.

    The massage places are safe if you agree to pay the agreed fee. You need to ask for the price before any action and prepare to pay. However, Just carry as much cash as you need. Do not show off your cash in the public area.


    Enjoy.

    JB.

  15. #11090
    Quote Originally Posted by ValleyMonger  [View Original Post]
    I appreciate your responses. As you mentioned, I was not asking for any contact information.

    If I broke any rules of this forum, I apologize.

    Again, it's going to be my first time in China, more specifically in Beijing, and while I am not asking for contact / addresses info, I would appreciate insights from more experienced members of this site with regards to, for instance:

    - Is it safe to go for a walk (I am going to be in the City center)? I don't speak / understand Chinese, by the way.

    - Is it usually safe to go to massage places if I don't speak Chinese?

    - How safe is to go out at night alone, say, to a bar / pub? Or do you recommend going to 5 star hotel bars instead?

    Anyway, any help / info for a newbie in China will be greatly appreciated!
    About five minutes after you arrive you will realize your questions were a bit ridiculous.

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