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  1. #11729
    Maggie's is at Ritan Park's south gate.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheGame05  [View Original Post]
    I will be in Beijing for a week for business in early November. Probably will try to make a trip to Maggie's and will of course report back afterwards. I do have a question. Google Maps shows two possible locations when you look for Maggie's: one is near Ritan Park, one near Wangfujing train station. Which is the one discussed on this board?

  2. #11728

    Fun areas

    Been living in Beijing for 6 yrs now and I am a massive BBS and Spa fan (places that you can have massages, fun showers, fun bath sessions, FS, BBBJ, quickies plus total erotic experiences). I would never recommend anywhere inside the 4th ring road and with a small bit of effort, you can find absolutely shit-loads of places that tickle all your fancies (fantasies).

    Tiantongyuan.

    Huilongguan.

    Yayuncun.

    Beiyuan.

    Lishuiqiao.

    These are all areas with literally hundreds of places to enjoy in each area. My favorite is to just take off towards one area, find at least 10-15 BBSs and Spas and enjoy some chuanr and beers closeby in between sessions. The reality is that you can have FS with 4 different girls in 4 separate sessions and have some Chuanr, chicken wings and beers all for less than 900 rmb. You can also find massage places that offer. Shower, massage on neck, shoulders, back, legs, ass (including 'credit card swipes', ball-fiddling, reach unders) before turning around for chest, stomach and leg massage followed by slow erotic HJs +'After Shower", all for 300 rmb. (I actually have a regular place that I get all this for 229 rmb).

    There are also places that offer FS Quickies for 200 rmb and the quality is lower but not all that bad (The kind of girl you'd fuck after a few beers).

    Anyway, do a little research and talk to a few regulars and you can find all these places. I have actually been to KTV sessions where there were up to 12 girls with 7 guys, all the girls were naked performing everything for hours. Mental.

  3. #11727
    Nina's is called Wonderful Massage, directly across the street from The Place in Central Park. Beijing's leading expat housing complex.

    Yes, there are three girls there. Nina and LJ used to work as massage therapists at The Peninsula, although they appear to have added some new service offerings I don't think were on the menu at the Peninsula. I don't think Nina offers full service, but unless you have the hots for dancing grannies I don't know why you would pick her for that.

    Nina gives the best massage, and an otherworldly hand job. Chinese for a hand job is Da Fei Ji, literally shooting airplanes, and she is truly a hazard to navigation.

    LJ and Ping Ping, the skinny one, both offer FS. LJ does a great massage too. Both enjoy FS. I don't consider Ping Ping to be skinny. Just small. She has a great ass and legs. She likes to wear crotchless fishnets. She always climbs on and sticks her pussy in my face when giving me a BBBJ. She appears to really like DATY. One meaning of Ping in Chinese is flat, and that she is. I have bigger boobs. She would be a nine if she got even a minor boob job. LJ, on the other hand, has one of the best racks I have touched in China, although the rest is girl next door. Solid western C cups.

    They do try to up sell you to a threesome. If you want to spend the money, do as I have, pick Nina and one of the other girls. Nina will give the the great massage and the other will lay you. I have done that when I seriously needed both, but usually I prefer a specialist for whatever ails me!

    Your prices are accurate, more or less. Massage and HJ from Nina is cheaper. About 600.

    Quote Originally Posted by RolandOrzabal  [View Original Post]
    I went back to Nina's near The Place last month, my first trip there in over a year.

    Seems like it's still the same. Nina greeted me at the counter, ushered me into the small massage room. LJ came in, same girl I'd had last year a couple times. Small establishment, I guess. Quoted price was the same: 1100 RMB for massage and sex. LJ looked the same: well made-up, not thin but not fat and with the same big tits. She's gotten a lot more open though; I remember her being a bit shy the first few times, but now a year later, she's much more forward and "come hither"-why. She suggested I get the threesome. There wasn't any discount for it, it was just double the price. Normally I would've said no, but I haven't been mongering much in the past year, so I thought why not. Negotiated a bit and got 200 RMB knocked off. The second girl then came in, didn't catch her name, but she was super thin. Tiny waist, cute face. No tits, but her thin figure was a good compliment to LJ's thicker figure. LJ's massage was top notch, other girl kinda just stood there ineffectually rubbing my legs while LJ worked my back. After a thorough massage, out came the condoms. Thin girl got on the massage table and I mounted her in mish. Switched to doggy after a bit and LJ had some damn good dirty talk while I grabbed thin girl's tiny waist and sucked LJ tits. Definitely the highlight of the experience.

    Then came the part where I remembered why I usually turn the threesomes down. I switch from thin girl to LJ but have to switch condoms as well. Yeah yeah safety, but it does kill the mood a bit and you can't freely switch between girls. And then after a while and I wasn't finishing, they took the condom off and tried to finish me with a HJ. I told them to get another condom and they were like "we don't have any more!" Right. After I kept insisting, they finally went to get another one. I decided to finish with the thin girl, novelty and all that. All laughs and banter afterwards though, it was a good atmosphere.

    Total price: 2000 RMB.

    WIR: Hard to say with the threesome. Am I glad I did it? Yes. Did I enjoy it? Yes. Would I go again? Probably not, I'd just opt for the regular one girl massage for 1100 RMB. Maybe if they discounted it to like 1500 RMB.

  4. #11726
    I will be in Beijing for a week for business in early November. Probably will try to make a trip to Maggie's and will of course report back afterwards. I do have a question. Google Maps shows two possible locations when you look for Maggie's: one is near Ritan Park, one near Wangfujing train station. Which is the one discussed on this board?

  5. #11725
    Quote Originally Posted by Bijou  [View Original Post]
    Just got back from a 7 day visit to Beijing for a conference but had 1 night to get out and here are some observations and recommendations:

    1. English is VERY limited here, even at a hotel chain like "Holiday Inn Express".

    2. You can't use Google for anything, including searches, and maps.

    3. Taking the "Airport Express" subway train from airport is easy from easy terminal (just look for the sign) only 25 RMDs and gets you close into the city to either take another train or catch a metered taxi for a lot lower price.

    4. Although I took an unlocked GSM smartphone with me like I normally do when traveling abroad, I couldn't find any place to get a prepaid SIM (but I didn't try very card). So, couldn't try the Wechat approach to meeting girls.

    5. The "Gui Jie" area has some very inexpensive restaurants and good Chinese food, but hardly anyone speaks English. However, menus have items written in English and with pictures.

    6. IMO, in 7 days that I was Beijing, I didn't see any girls that were what I would consider "attractive". I'm sure that in a city / country of so many, there are some, but I didn't see any in the subways, in shopping malls, in stores / restaurants, or in these two bars:

    - XIU Bar: sat at the bar and found a few girls sitting together, or alone. They were on their phones, I assume using one of the apps mentioned on this board. I didn't see anything of interest to me.

    - Maggies bar: many more girls (and some obnoxious loud guys), but still nothing I saw interesting.

    This is just a snapshot of my short visit and IMHO, unless you are planning to go for another reason, wouldn't recommend for the girls. (Not trying to start a debate-- just trying to share for newbies considering Beijing).
    Fully agreed. Beijing is NOT a mongoring destination in itself, but something that's available when you're there.

  6. #11724

    Beijing Observations (Sept 2016)

    Just got back from a 7 day visit to Beijing for a conference but had 1 night to get out and here are some observations and recommendations:

    1. English is VERY limited here, even at a hotel chain like "Holiday Inn Express".

    2. You can't use Google for anything, including searches, and maps.

    3. Taking the "Airport Express" subway train from airport is easy from easy terminal (just look for the sign) only 25 RMDs and gets you close into the city to either take another train or catch a metered taxi for a lot lower price.

    4. Although I took an unlocked GSM smartphone with me like I normally do when traveling abroad, I couldn't find any place to get a prepaid SIM (but I didn't try very card). So, couldn't try the Wechat approach to meeting girls.

    5. The "Gui Jie" area has some very inexpensive restaurants and good Chinese food, but hardly anyone speaks English. However, menus have items written in English and with pictures.

    6. IMO, in 7 days that I was Beijing, I didn't see any girls that were what I would consider "attractive". I'm sure that in a city / country of so many, there are some, but I didn't see any in the subways, in shopping malls, in stores / restaurants, or in these two bars:

    - XIU Bar: sat at the bar and found a few girls sitting together, or alone. They were on their phones, I assume using one of the apps mentioned on this board. I didn't see anything of interest to me.

    - Maggies bar: many more girls (and some obnoxious loud guys), but still nothing I saw interesting.

    This is just a snapshot of my short visit and IMHO, unless you are planning to go for another reason, wouldn't recommend for the girls. (Not trying to start a debate-- just trying to share for newbies considering Beijing).

  7. #11723

    About Bella: all is real and she deserves

    I can only second TAZMAN. It's a pity we have KIA's who only want to she's their ego but not give any help to others!!

    I can only say: guys go an see Bella.

    If anyone is interested for other recommendations: PM me.

    Gregory.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazman099  [View Original Post]
    I think I can help with your 10 mojito hangover. Beijing has been shit for mongering for a hell of a long time. Hard to pin it down exactly, but how long has the hard rock been dead? Also, I remember being able to walk into pretty much any bar in sanlitun and finding quite a selection. Before 3+3 came in.

    However, I don't think that alone is the cause of the lack of quality content in this forum. For that, I think you only need to look as far as some of the senior members of this forum. Very recent example: guy posts legitimate review of Bella and gets slammed by two "know it all" members. Now, how do I know it's a legit review: 1) it's absolutely inline with all of the other reviews for her (do a quick search), 2) I know her and a) I'm 100% certain that the closest she'd ever get to using a tout is asking a John to post a review, and b) it absolutely fits my experience. In fact, I was so impressed with her after one meeting that I'd even considered taking a trip to Beijing just to see her. And I'm friends with a member that's known her for about 6 years.

    A less recent example is a string involving me. I had asked for some help in Beijing (at the time I was very active in the Shanghai forum and had hoped that would translate to some goodwill in Beijing. I was wrong), not only did I get none, when I did post a review of a disappointing experience with kitty, all I got was some senior members coming down on me for helping to raise the prices in Beijing.

    You guys need to get over yourselves and try to promote safe mongering. I mean, that is what ISG is all about, right?

    Sorry for the harsh words, but I felt it needed to be said. Burn notice: this is not directed towards you, it just happened to fit in with your observation.

    Cheers,

    Taz.

  8. #11722

    BBS near WGC

    I thought BBS didn't exist inside the 5th ring road anymore in Beijing, but I found one last week near WeiGongCun inside the 3rd ring. Very surprised to see it, it even had the pink lights! I sat across the street and had a few cigarettes while I pondered whether to go in or not, since I hadn't set out with the purpose of finding a WG. It was like 8 PM and it's right next to a big university, so there were students constantly walking past it. Lots of turning heads as they walked by, because it's pretty unmistakably a BBS. Pink lights, big glass door and window, woman in tight dress and heels doing something or other at the front and another girl lounging on the couch in the back. Watched a couple lone guys walk in and out.

    Finally, decided to head in. Girl in the tight dress and high heels greets me, tells me to go to the back with her to talk about price. We step into a super shitty looking massage "room", really just a booth with a shitty bed and a curtain rather than an actual room. She tells me 200 for HJ, 400 for FS. Pretty sure 300 for BJ was an option as well, not positive. I go for the FS. She tells me "not here, follow me" and leads me out through the backdoor of the shop. We walk in darkness through a few back alleys and I'm starting to wonder if I'm about to get jumped, but then we get to this residential courtyard and go to like the fourth floor of this old walk-up apartment building. She unlocks the door to an apartment, looks like a typical Chinese 2 bed 1 bath. Takes me to the bedroom and we start.

    She starts with a BBBJ, and a pretty good one, so that was a surprise as well. Enthusiastic! She would occasionally stop and spit into the trash can and even did that horrible phlegmy loogie hocking sound, which of course is a huge turn-off. She asked if I wanted to put on the condom and start fucking, but I said a little longer with the BJ and she obliged, no pushiness. Another plus. We did start having sex in mish and doggy before finishing in mish. Good attitude, good fun, enthusiastic throughout.

    Girl wasn't a stunner. Maybe a 6. But a good BBBJ and good sex for BBS prices inside 3rd ring? Awesome.

    Total cost: 400 RMB for FS with BBBJ.

    WIR: Yes.

  9. #11721
    I went back to Nina's near The Place last month, my first trip there in over a year.

    Seems like it's still the same. Nina greeted me at the counter, ushered me into the small massage room. LJ came in, same girl I'd had last year a couple times. Small establishment, I guess. Quoted price was the same: 1100 RMB for massage and sex. LJ looked the same: well made-up, not thin but not fat and with the same big tits. She's gotten a lot more open though; I remember her being a bit shy the first few times, but now a year later, she's much more forward and "come hither"-why. She suggested I get the threesome. There wasn't any discount for it, it was just double the price. Normally I would've said no, but I haven't been mongering much in the past year, so I thought why not. Negotiated a bit and got 200 RMB knocked off. The second girl then came in, didn't catch her name, but she was super thin. Tiny waist, cute face. No tits, but her thin figure was a good compliment to LJ's thicker figure. LJ's massage was top notch, other girl kinda just stood there ineffectually rubbing my legs while LJ worked my back. After a thorough massage, out came the condoms. Thin girl got on the massage table and I mounted her in mish. Switched to doggy after a bit and LJ had some damn good dirty talk while I grabbed thin girl's tiny waist and sucked LJ tits. Definitely the highlight of the experience.

    Then came the part where I remembered why I usually turn the threesomes down. I switch from thin girl to LJ but have to switch condoms as well. Yeah yeah safety, but it does kill the mood a bit and you can't freely switch between girls. And then after a while and I wasn't finishing, they took the condom off and tried to finish me with a HJ. I told them to get another condom and they were like "we don't have any more!" Right. After I kept insisting, they finally went to get another one. I decided to finish with the thin girl, novelty and all that. All laughs and banter afterwards though, it was a good atmosphere.

    Total price: 2000 RMB.

    WIR: Hard to say with the threesome. Am I glad I did it? Yes. Did I enjoy it? Yes. Would I go again? Probably not, I'd just opt for the regular one girl massage for 1100 RMB. Maybe if they discounted it to like 1500 RMB.

  10. #11720
    Quote Originally Posted by Alex7J  [View Original Post]
    Mate you seem to have update info about the pickup bars in Beijing, do you have info about Shanghai also because as far as I know only Manhattan and Judy's were there. What about the mongols, Chinese or Russians or Stani brigade where do they converge in Shanghai. I've tried bar rouge but its 50/50 chances there someday are good some bad, you can enlighten us about the places in shanghai also.

    Cheers.
    Sorry, Shanghai is foreign territory for me.

  11. #11719
    Quote Originally Posted by BurnNotice  [View Original Post]
    I am quite a regular in the bars in Beijing and I have to say that from where I stand, WG prices are going up because supply of girls is shrinking. The supply of girls is coming down because the demand is coming down. The law of economics says that if demand is coming down then pricing should come down but, in the WG sex economics law that ain't happening!.

    Let me explain my ISG economics theory that seems to be so clear in my head after 10 mojitos!

    First, where are you guys? There is a lot less foreigners living in BJ then 5 years ago and it looks like people do not do meeting anymore in the capital but are going to other cities. A friend manager in one of the 5 stars hotel was confirming me that foreigners from Europe or america are in steep reduction while travelers from Japan, Korea, Singapore, Russian, Thailand, India Malaysia are taking the place. He says only Australian maintain the rhythm. This switch of foreigners is definitely affecting the bar I go and it is affecting this board too! Look at how many reviews were done this month.

    Xiu and chocolate are regularly empty or filled with foreigners not taking girls out. To deal with that situation, the girls are converging to Maggie's during the evening. It seems the only place for girls where they can hook up a guy. That creates an excess of supply in Maggie's for one or two evening an then the hot girl decide to move to another city leaving the place to the old and not so hot girls that feel empower to charge a high price.

    That being said, we are a bit in a hole these days in the capital. We have hard time to attract talent WG because our core customer block is shrinking and concentrate in Maggie's. I met a very hot Mongolian girl with her friend at Maggie's last week. It was their second day and they were already announcing that they were not staying moving the next day to shanghai.

    Their conclusion, 'Beijing is shit for business' " Not good for us if the high roller girls do not stay. That means the older and fatter gets the room for them an charge way too much. 1500 rmb ST for a 4 or 5! That's ridiculous.
    I think I can help with your 10 mojito hangover. Beijing has been shit for mongering for a hell of a long time. Hard to pin it down exactly, but how long has the hard rock been dead? Also, I remember being able to walk into pretty much any bar in sanlitun and finding quite a selection. Before 3+3 came in.

    However, I don't think that alone is the cause of the lack of quality content in this forum. For that, I think you only need to look as far as some of the senior members of this forum. Very recent example: guy posts legitimate review of Bella and gets slammed by two "know it all" members. Now, how do I know it's a legit review: 1) it's absolutely inline with all of the other reviews for her (do a quick search), 2) I know her and a) I'm 100% certain that the closest she'd ever get to using a tout is asking a John to post a review, and b) it absolutely fits my experience. In fact, I was so impressed with her after one meeting that I'd even considered taking a trip to Beijing just to see her. And I'm friends with a member that's known her for about 6 years.

    A less recent example is a string involving me. I had asked for some help in Beijing (at the time I was very active in the Shanghai forum and had hoped that would translate to some goodwill in Beijing. I was wrong), not only did I get none, when I did post a review of a disappointing experience with kitty, all I got was some senior members coming down on me for helping to raise the prices in Beijing.

    You guys need to get over yourselves and try to promote safe mongering. I mean, that is what ISG is all about, right?

    Sorry for the harsh words, but I felt it needed to be said. Burn notice: this is not directed towards you, it just happened to fit in with your observation.

    Cheers,

    Taz.
    Last edited by Tazman099; 09-24-16 at 15:09. Reason: Clarification

  12. #11718
    Quote Originally Posted by BurnNotice  [View Original Post]
    If you have a bit of game, the roof top bar Migas in Sanlitun. Many hot Chinese girls looking for a hot western boyfriend. The language barrier becomes a challenge very quick but if you can overcome it with google translate or a local friend you will find what you are looking for.
    Mate you seem to have update info about the pickup bars in Beijing, do you have info about Shanghai also because as far as I know only Manhattan and Judy's were there. What about the mongols, Chinese or Russians or Stani brigade where do they converge in Shanghai. I've tried bar rouge but its 50/50 chances there someday are good some bad, you can enlighten us about the places in shanghai also.

    Cheers.

  13. #11717

    Is writing a positive review a crime?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreebieFan  [View Original Post]
    Lovely review. But with one post only, being this particular one, no one is going to believe you.

    Wow an escort that is close to being perfect. Amazing. Weve never had such reviews here before.

    Its kind of sad that you consider the intelligence level of the board members here to be on a par with yours.
    Well, as I said in the post, I don't usually like to share my personal experiences on the field and I am now even more convinced of that. Perhaps our intelligence is really not on the same level. Perhaps, differently from you I don't need to show off about my loving skills and conquering power to feel like a real man.

    I was kindly asked to leave a review and I did my best to convey my personal experience. You are totally free not to believe me but before accusing me of being in bad faith, perhaps you should check the thread: there are quite a few more reviews on the same girls by members with more contributions that mine and I think they are not so different. Did I write them all? Fortunately I have more interesting things to do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferios  [View Original Post]
    I talked with Bella and she send me her pictures. Quite lovely girl and she has great personality. I can tell she is lovely and funny. I can understand difference because of talking. She told me she is 160 and she had next door girl body type. But she is charging 18000 RMB / hour. With that price I can't meet with anyone. Overpriced.
    This is a much more fair comment. I agree, 1800 RMB is definitely an investment (I guess I was lucky enough to catch her before she raised her fare, so I paid "only" 1600) but I can only say that after trying other providers at half the cost, I would prefer one session with Bella than 2 with any girl that makes fake moans and moves like a robot. Personal taste.

  14. #11716

    Migas

    Quote Originally Posted by Ferios  [View Original Post]
    Then what should I do for hot Chinese girl? I'm tall, fit, European guy with colored eyes. Do you think I can find girl for free in clubs? Or you suggest to pass time wasting and contact with Kitty or Angel? BTW how is nuru massage in China? Is it good or they just faking it?
    If you have a bit of game, the roof top bar Migas in Sanlitun. Many hot Chinese girls looking for a hot western boyfriend. The language barrier becomes a challenge very quick but if you can overcome it with google translate or a local friend you will find what you are looking for.

  15. #11715

    Beijing bars for WG are lacking talent these days

    I am quite a regular in the bars in Beijing and I have to say that from where I stand, WG prices are going up because supply of girls is shrinking. The supply of girls is coming down because the demand is coming down. The law of economics says that if demand is coming down then pricing should come down but, in the WG sex economics law that ain't happening!.

    Let me explain my ISG economics theory that seems to be so clear in my head after 10 mojitos!

    First, where are you guys? There is a lot less foreigners living in BJ then 5 years ago and it looks like people do not do meeting anymore in the capital but are going to other cities. A friend manager in one of the 5 stars hotel was confirming me that foreigners from Europe or america are in steep reduction while travelers from Japan, Korea, Singapore, Russian, Thailand, India Malaysia are taking the place. He says only Australian maintain the rhythm. This switch of foreigners is definitely affecting the bar I go and it is affecting this board too! Look at how many reviews were done this month.

    Xiu and chocolate are regularly empty or filled with foreigners not taking girls out. To deal with that situation, the girls are converging to Maggie's during the evening. It seems the only place for girls where they can hook up a guy. That creates an excess of supply in Maggie's for one or two evening an then the hot girl decide to move to another city leaving the place to the old and not so hot girls that feel empower to charge a high price.

    That being said, we are a bit in a hole these days in the capital. We have hard time to attract talent WG because our core customer block is shrinking and concentrate in Maggie's. I met a very hot Mongolian girl with her friend at Maggie's last week. It was their second day and they were already announcing that they were not staying moving the next day to shanghai.

    Their conclusion, 'Beijing is shit for business' " Not good for us if the high roller girls do not stay. That means the older and fatter gets the room for them an charge way too much. 1500 rmb ST for a 4 or 5! That's ridiculous.

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