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  1. #11270

    New pastures

    On average, been going to LJ 3-4 times a week for the past year and a half, never once had a bad experience there. You might consider it a shit hole or not up to your standards, fair enough, each to their own. I am just sharing what I consider to be value for money. Honestly, I don't see the point in shooting down other honest posters. Its just 'troll-like' behavior in my opinion.

    Anyway, due to the wonders of motorbike hunting, I found a place that suits my current desires:

    The obvious HJ / FS places have been boring me recently so I started to jump into what look like legit massage places and inquiring about the prices. A few were "Get out of here, we don't do that kind of thing in here" but I found one place that was a pleasant surprise.

    Location: Close to home.

    Walked in, asked for massage with HJ, no problem.

    Name: Xiao something.

    For the first time, I was shown the shower before deed began. Big room, showered (girl not present) and blue paper pants provided, haha. Always makes me laugh. Girl comes back in, lie face down and the back massage begins. Obviously no massage qualifications but was a decent rub down. About 10-15 minutes. I couldn't see but the feeling of her rubbing herself against me is always a turn on. Plenty of chat but could only understand 50%. Then she slid down to my ankles and pulled the blue pants down. This, for me was the best part. Telling me how much she loved my ass, rubbing oil all over it, massaging my balls and stroking my dick. Recently, all I have wanted is a girl to play with my cock and talk to me about how much she prefers a foreign cock, telling me about how small Chinese cocks are and how big mine is. All bullshit but the seemingly sincerity was perfect timing.

    Flip over.

    She spent some time massaging my chest and above my dick which was a nice build up. She had very small hands so the double handed wank was welcomed. All was slowly slowly. I asked could I see her ass as this was my favorite, no ass view but she allowed me to zip down her top to view her absolutely beautiful natural breasts. Asked to come on her face, no breasts, no stomach, no (if you don't ask, right? To be honest, most of my questions were answered no but it didn't dampen the experience at all. Blew the load and showered after.

    30-35 mins spent before final shower.

    Price: 198 rmb.

    WIR: Been twice already. Looking forward to third.

  2. #11269

    Sophie

    Quote Originally Posted by Worm  [View Original Post]
    Or your low standards.
    I am sorry to disappoint you, but the girl was a cute thing, about 22 yo, firm breasts with very pointy nipples. I thought very good technique and spent plenty of quality time with me. She was not fat or even chubby. Maybe it was my lucky day. I had a good time and when next in Beijing I will go again. All you naysayers will not stop me from having a good time. And no, I don't work there. I live in USA.

  3. #11268
    Quote Originally Posted by Dirk67  [View Original Post]
    Thanks-- perhaps you can tell us what to search for in Chinese or English to find the review website? It's not 141 is it?
    For those of you that can read Chinese, there you go.

    http://www.dushitiyan.com/default.aspx

    A very comprehensive review site IMO. Some parts can be full of shills but the KTV and massage section are pretty clean.

  4. #11267
    Quote Originally Posted by YellowPanda  [View Original Post]
    Hey guys,

    Long time lurker, first time poster. I've received a lot of help from guys on this forum when I went to Macau for the first time last year, and I think it might be time for me to give back a little bit.


    1. you find them on QQ. There's a Chinese mongering review website, like Yelp, but in Chinese, and full of Shills. But it's useful to find at least the basic information about those otherwise hidden sauna places. I will post the link if I'm allowed here or if you guys can read Chinese. LOL.

    Got to go, but if you guys have any questions, feel free to let me know.
    Thanks-- perhaps you can tell us what to search for in Chinese or English to find the review website? It's not 141 is it?

  5. #11266
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaywhy  [View Original Post]
    Anyone who is or has ever been married should understand this comment.
    You don't pay these girls to have sex with you. You pay them to leave after they do.

  6. #11265
    Quote Originally Posted by Biandao  [View Original Post]
    Never paid more than 9 xx with tip included. But than again maybe my sweet and charming attitude counts for something.
    Or your low standards.

  7. #11264

    This is also an ad

    Lama Temple review written by a poster with two posts named Lama Temple.

    Quote Originally Posted by LamaTemple  [View Original Post]
    Last night I called a girl Lisa to serve me. A typical Asian body, very thing body with be cup (if my sense of touching is right), student like pretty face. I asked him how old is she, 22 years old. , nice and professional message, BBBJ and nice HJ in the end. Would definitely try it for my next Beijing trip. Damage is 700 for one hour service.

  8. #11263

    Uh, what?

    How is 1,500-2,500 RMB for BBBJ and CIM but not full service less expensive than Maggie's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yellowpanda  [View Original Post]
    Hey guys,

    Long time lurker, first time poster. I've received a lot of help from guys on this forum when I went to Macau for the first time last year, and I think it might be time for me to give back a little bit.

    I still remember the second night I landed in Beijing and heard of the place "Maggies" and its "renowned" quality, and I wondered, no way the local Chinese would pay this much for this. So I'm Chinese XXX, and I speak Chinese, so I've gone the so called local route every since. So I started to frequent a lot of KTV places, then I stopped going after I realized that it's proly the worst when it comes to value / mileage to $$ (1200-1500 per person and all you get is some DFK at best, takeouts are 1000+ extra).

    So I found the "saunas" which is very and perhaps only local. First, the service is great, the girls generally try hard to make sure you feel you got your money's worth. One thing I really like about the "saunas" is that the girls have really good attitudes and often it feels like a date instead of you know. Secondly, the cost is rather high though, not sure if it's because it's Beijing (proly), but the same type of service would cost a lot less in SH. (the only I tried was 900, fish bowl exp + Macau style cat bath) Lastly, the girls are proly prettier than those places normally mentioned here. Again, I know, that beauty is highly objective and only in the eyes of the beholder, but I think it's a fair generalization to make and relevant to most of you guys here, unless ofc, you are into BBW and Ebony and stuff.

    So what am I talking about with the "saunas"? They are micros, operate out of high end-ish (maybe?) apartment buildings around Beijing. The standard exp for a customer is something like this.

    1. you find them on QQ. There's a Chinese mongering review website, like Yelp, but in Chinese, and full of Shills. But it's useful to find at least the basic information about those otherwise hidden sauna places. I will post the link if I'm allowed here or if you guys can read Chinese. LOL.

    2. Usually they will screen you a bit, like ask you how you found out about them, which you can just tell them about that review website. Then you go in and look at the girls' photos. Most of them are not heavily P.S.'ed, and someones will actually show the girls' faces. And you get the menu of services and prices.

    3. Call them to book an appointment, they will text you their address, not the exact address, just the general vicinity.

    4. You get there and they will pick you up (often the customer service person), or direct you to their exact address after you call.

    5. You get the lineup, 2-3 girls, then pick the services you want from the menu.

    10. You pay and then leave.

    Couple notes that are very relevant:

    1. Girls there often will DFK, but most Chinese guys don't do it and I don't often do it neither, so it's YMMV.

    2. 70% of those places don't offer FS, only BBBJ and CIM.

    3. and they cost about 1,500-2,500 RMB depending the place and service.

    4. Multiple releases encouraged.

    5. The entire booking process is done only in Chinese, but they are foreigner / white people friendly, I asked. LOL.

    Got to go, but if you guys have any questions, feel free to let me know.

  9. #11262

    Maybe a better option for you guys think about

    Hey guys,

    Long time lurker, first time poster. I've received a lot of help from guys on this forum when I went to Macau for the first time last year, and I think it might be time for me to give back a little bit.

    I still remember the second night I landed in Beijing and heard of the place "Maggies" and its "renowned" quality, and I wondered, no way the local Chinese would pay this much for this. So I'm Chinese XXX, and I speak Chinese, so I've gone the so called local route every since. So I started to frequent a lot of KTV places, then I stopped going after I realized that it's proly the worst when it comes to value / mileage to $$ (1200-1500 per person and all you get is some DFK at best, takeouts are 1000+ extra).

    So I found the "saunas" which is very and perhaps only local. First, the service is great, the girls generally try hard to make sure you feel you got your money's worth. One thing I really like about the "saunas" is that the girls have really good attitudes and often it feels like a date instead of you know. Secondly, the cost is rather high though, not sure if it's because it's Beijing (proly), but the same type of service would cost a lot less in SH. (the only I tried was 900, fish bowl exp + Macau style cat bath) Lastly, the girls are proly prettier than those places normally mentioned here. Again, I know, that beauty is highly objective and only in the eyes of the beholder, but I think it's a fair generalization to make and relevant to most of you guys here, unless ofc, you are into BBW and Ebony and stuff.

    So what am I talking about with the "saunas"? They are micros, operate out of high end-ish (maybe?) apartment buildings around Beijing. The standard exp for a customer is something like this.

    1. you find them on QQ. There's a Chinese mongering review website, like Yelp, but in Chinese, and full of Shills. But it's useful to find at least the basic information about those otherwise hidden sauna places. I will post the link if I'm allowed here or if you guys can read Chinese. LOL.

    2. Usually they will screen you a bit, like ask you how you found out about them, which you can just tell them about that review website. Then you go in and look at the girls' photos. Most of them are not heavily P.S.'ed, and someones will actually show the girls' faces. And you get the menu of services and prices.

    3. Call them to book an appointment, they will text you their address, not the exact address, just the general vicinity.

    4. You get there and they will pick you up (often the customer service person), or direct you to their exact address after you call.

    5. You get the lineup, 2-3 girls, then pick the services you want from the menu.

    10. You pay and then leave.

    Couple notes that are very relevant:

    1. Girls there often will DFK, but most Chinese guys don't do it and I don't often do it neither, so it's YMMV.

    2. 70% of those places don't offer FS, only BBBJ and CIM.

    3. and they cost about 1,500-2,500 RMB depending the place and service.

    4. Multiple releases encouraged.

    5. The entire booking process is done only in Chinese, but they are foreigner / white people friendly, I asked. LOL.

    Got to go, but if you guys have any questions, feel free to let me know.

  10. #11261

    My experience

    Quote Originally Posted by FernandoAlonso  [View Original Post]
    And they usually do not provide FS. If they do occasionally on top of the almost 1 k massage fee they expect a hefty tip. Value for money? Yes Beijing is difficult but who is so desperate?

    FA.
    Never paid more than 9 xx with tip included. But than again maybe my sweet and charming attitude counts for something.

  11. #11260

    PM needs to be a paid member

    You need to pay a fee, 19,90 $.

    To be able to use PM.

    It's good for one year. Check on the left side about ways to pay.

    Gregory.

    Quote Originally Posted by EricMike  [View Original Post]
    Many thanks. To be honest, I don't understand what mistakes I have made to make myself "shitty fake". I mean, those kinds of malicious attacks should not be tolerated in this public space.

    I like this forum, and of course, I am not experienced yet, so I will be very much grateful if you could guide me with more tips in the PM.

    Best wishes!

    Mike

  12. #11259

    Greeting from a freshman in the market of Beijing

    Thank you very much for your comments. At least you give me your observations, your arguments and the reasons behind.

    But, still, as you can see, there is no logic in every point that can support the "conclusion":

    1) There have previously fake reviews for Kitty in the past. So, you mean my reviews have some common senses with the old ones? To be honest, I cannot imagine, how the fake ones can look similar to my frank review?! Is it because that I only express my thanks but not with enough details? So, maybe in the future I should describe my experience in more details.

    2) Yes, this is my first review, but I really don't know that the unwritten law here is that the first review should not be with so many praises. Or let's say, I agree with you that in fact many fake reviewers register, post advertisements, then leave. I fully understand, but can we really judge the other people as "shitty fake" just because we guess he may be one of the fakers? For instance, if I don't like somebody here, can I address him "shit" or "fake"? I think this misconduct should not be tolerated if we still want a healthy atmosphere in this public space. You have posted more than 700 reports, this means you have dedicate much time and energy to this space and definitely, you like this place. So, let's stop the misconduct of some members here.

    3) About this point, to be honest, I don't know what I should say. In Valencia, I tried some girls from Felina, and in Wien, I tried many times in the most well-known sex studio. I fully understand the difference between Kitty and these agencies. And without any doubt, if you are a guy who speaks German very well, I recommend you to try the sex studio in Wien, it is amazing! But, unfortunately, it seems that we are currently in Beijing. So, I will appreciate you if you or other friends here can give me more viewpoints as "regular members", for instance, PM me to recommend me other agency in Beijing which definitely be better than Kitty, then I will try and contribute my comments here. But, still, hope at that moment nobody will say "oh, that shit faker comes back! No, this guy now is bought by another agency"!

    4) Sure, my mother language is not English. My mother language is Chinese, but I lived in Europe for many years. And unfortunately again, my Spanish and German are much better than English. But still, I don't get how my poor English indicates I am a shitty faker.

    Finally, thank you very much to let me know how to become a genuine poster. And my question is that what will happen if so far I only know Kitty in Beijing and unfortunately I try her service again and more unfortunately I still want to say something regarding her service? What is "be flamed"? Please forgive my poor English, maybe you translate it to German, I will understand better. Don't worry about my street cred, I will post my frank comments and reviews in the future, which will be definitely useful for this society. Trust me, I am a good writer and observer with good manner.

    So, as you can see, now the case for me is so difficult. Only knowing Kitty, enjoying the service, but not allowed to say what I want to say. I think this situation does not bring shame on me, but on the whole public space here. Maybe we should learn from this lesson -- how a freshman becomes a shitty faker!

    No offense, but really what I want to say. Thank you for giving me the chance to explain. Best regards.

    Mike

    [QUOTE=Ikksman;1739283]As an outside observer, I can understand why some members concluded that your post was a "fake review". I imagine that their conclusion was based on the following:

    There have previously been a number of reviews of Kitty that were obviously fake
    This was your first post on ISG (similar to the fake reviewers)
    Regular members here generally agree that Kitty's service is not worth the time and money
    Some of your English usage indicates (to me) that English is not your primary language (Chinese?)

    If you are a genuine poster, please continue to post your experiences in China. But remember if you continue to post only about Kitty's service, you will likely be flamed - at least until you have established some 'street cred'.

  13. #11258

    Many thanks for understanding and more tips in the future

    Many thanks. To be honest, I don't understand what mistakes I have made to make myself "shitty fake". I mean, those kinds of malicious attacks should not be tolerated in this public space.

    I like this forum, and of course, I am not experienced yet, so I will be very much grateful if you could guide me with more tips in the PM.

    Best wishes!

    Mike

    Quote Originally Posted by GregoryB  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for your report, that's what this forum needs and is missing I guess not at least to those wise guys who look down onto us lowly ignorant guys. I had a great experience with Fiona a "colleague" of Kitty.

    Now I have my own regulars I got to know over many visits. PM me for details.

    Gregory.

  14. #11257

    With all due respect

    Quote Originally Posted by Tazman099  [View Original Post]
    Hmmm, going on my 9th year in Asia, married to a Chinese woman and senior laoban for a Chinese operation. But you're right, I know nothing about this country.

    Here's what I can tell you for sure, most of the people in the Shanghai forum genuinely try to be helpful. It is the minority that shows the attitude or 'negativity' you refer to.

    I read through the Beijing forum for many, many, pages before posting my request for information. I attempted to qualify myself by inviting people to review my posts, showing that I am a contributor and not just a leach. I did receive a couple helpful suggestions, but none worked for my case. So, I followed the only other information available in the forum. Then I get told that no wonder I had a shitty experience, and you tell me there is limited information in this forum and the senior members know why.

    I'm done with this conversation but will gladly help any active member looking for support in Shanghai.

    Taz.
    Bro,

    Your response proofs my point as does your posting history (also in Shanghai). Asia is not China (yes, China is in Asia but very unique) and being married to a Chinese does not give you any I sight in the domestic mongering scene. On the contrary.

    I would never claim I know all about China because that is the first learning almost every foreigner fails to recognise. You never can know China. You still not understand the silence here (and yes, Shanghai is different) you cannot be helped. See your photo soon in the People's Daily. I know when to shut up in this country.

    But each to his own.

    FA.

    BTW: one last advise no chinese would ever call himself senior laoban. There is only one real boss, if you need call yourself senior you are not in charge. Nice title though will impress all foreigners, chinese will laugh their head off. Of course behind your back. They will congratulate your brilliant Chinese knowledge. No offence intended. Just truth to be told.

  15. #11256
    Quote Originally Posted by EricMike  [View Original Post]
    Hey gentleman,{S N I P}
    You of course have the right to be with different view points, but, how can you think my review is fake?! Were you in the same room when I experienced the girl? How did you judge my feeling?
    {S N I P}
    As an outside observer, I can understand why some members concluded that your post was a "fake review". I imagine that their conclusion was based on the following:

    There have previously been a number of reviews of Kitty that were obviously fake
    This was your first post on ISG (similar to the fake reviewers)
    Regular members here generally agree that Kitty's service is not worth the time and money
    Some of your English usage indicates (to me) that English is not your primary language (Chinese?)

    If you are a genuine poster, please continue to post your experiences in China. But remember if you continue to post only about Kitty's service, you will likely be flamed - at least until you have established some 'street cred'.

    Cheers

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