East China - Shanghai

[Peter71]

The hotel should be called Hengsheng Peninsula International.

Hotel:http://www.happymassage.com/wi...national_Hotel

Thank you Masslin, I found it.

[Mgp23]

Went tonight to the Buddha massage place on Changping Road. Not that great selection, asked for the famous number 5 but seems she was not there tonight. Ill go back. Anyway. Choose girl 3 from Sichuan. Small body and nice tits. Great attitude. But massage was so so. For less than 20 minutes. Than immediately BJ. No ice & fire, no Jelly thing. BJ was quite good with COB but nothing special. Damage was 298rmb. At the check out they try to sell you the VIP card. Maybe I choose not the best one anyway I'll give a try again in the next days.

In my experience they give you the VIP, not sell, and that gives you 60 kuai off.

[Pcpc1688]

Went twice to Spring massage, and was not able to get anything else than a miserable HJ. I used all my soft skills, fluent Chinese and incentives. Frustrating. Was offered to rub her tits for 100, get a boob-job for 300, nothing more. Just setting expectations that it would be quite hard and, in my opinion, wasted time / efforts, to insist for FS / BJ at that place. That said, maybe there are girls who perform better than others in that join? Mines were #31 and #32.

I only ever got a HJ there but for 298 and pawing a cute young thing was ok. LOL

You are correct that it will take alotta work and RMBs to get into the panties.

PC out

[Bnlee2]

OK, off the money numbers for just a bit and on to some personal views. We all know that women are capable of multiple sessions per day and multiple orgasms. However, after 5 men per day for days on end, I just don't see how they can have any passion and it just becomes a mechanical act with a few fake moans to keep us interested. The mongers that say (brag?) she came three times, she was so hot, really wet (think lube) , into it, wanted me, etc, etc, May have delusions of grandeur and of their own prowess as stud of the hour (maybe two hour, after all it's a Sauna!). For me, (and this only my personal POV) , the only worthwhile experience, other than if you just have to get off, is a LT girl where perhaps and just maybe, you might brew a little chemistry with her. At least, for me, I can fool myself enough to where I don't feel that I am the next in line (yes, I know, it will still be a line, but at least not a waiting line). The idea that "my favorite girl was busy with another customer" and I had to wait for her to finish with his BBBJCIM, Rimming, FS, etc, so she can do me next, doesn't sound very exciting.

I think you can usually tell if it they are faking or having a real orgasm. In a real orgasm you can sometimes feel their vaginal contraction or how their body is reacting, eg, curling of toes, etc.

I had an incident at one of the saunas-working girl houses in Shanghai a few months back. I was at a Sauna / working girl house after a successful meeting and it was my client's treat. Due to the multiple meds that I'm taking (hypertension, pain relievers due to old age and asthma medication) if was hard for me to shoot. I was rock solid but could not nut. Literally I was going full speed for almost fifty minutes and this poor gal just went nuts and I could feel her multiple orgasm via body contractions. At the way she was screaming, I was afraid that security was going to barge in thinking I was killing her. I'm not bragging but sometimes this happens when my meds get a bit screwy on me. Literally. Afterward, she grab my mobile and just dial her local number to capture my number. She was texting me every other hours asking me when she can see me. It was crazy. I know there was no way this biatch was faking.

Usually when a gal is faking it, it is a real turn off.

[Five Aces]

I have the same thought whenever I want to kiss the girl, but my concern is not so much BBBJCIM but the rimming part.

You have to face the fact that you are drinking from the toilet anyway. What I focus on is the industrial grade solvents they use to clean themselves between clients with. Some of it even tastes good.

I tend to give them the benefit of the doubt that they have properly cleaned themselves.

[MrClen]

50000 is rather on the high side and yes this is China so if one of the friends there in one month earned that much it becomes standard for all. This is China. LOL.

From my credible first hand experiences here is the math:

3 to 5 customers per day in average is possible and if they do not make it will cut loose any how. Typical daily range is 2 to 8, so the average fits. It used to be pretty standard 200 RMB per customer tat landed in the pockets of the girls, may have gone up a little now or in higher end places but I am not sure. They work at least 25 days a months, often they must proof to management they are really on the rag so this is more a minimum, usually they only take 2 to 4 days off (I know, better not think about it). They are in for the money, other than shopping not much use for spare time, you do not make too many friends while on this job other than a few colleagues.

So all in all 20 000 to 30 000 is a realistic figure in average. Superstars will get more, but as also said rightly before the more thye earn, the more they spend, so indeed it is not that easy get rich from it.

Hope that helps a little.

FA

OK, off the money numbers for just a bit and on to some personal views. We all know that women are capable of multiple sessions per day and multiple orgasms. However, after 5 men per day for days on end, I just don't see how they can have any passion and it just becomes a mechanical act with a few fake moans to keep us interested. The mongers that say (brag?) she came three times, she was so hot, really wet (think lube) , into it, wanted me, etc, etc, May have delusions of grandeur and of their own prowess as stud of the hour (maybe two hour, after all it's a Sauna!). For me, (and this only my personal POV) , the only worthwhile experience, other than if you just have to get off, is a LT girl where perhaps and just maybe, you might brew a little chemistry with her. At least, for me, I can fool myself enough to where I don't feel that I am the next in line (yes, I know, it will still be a line, but at least not a waiting line). The idea that "my favorite girl was busy with another customer" and I had to wait for her to finish with his BBBJCIM, Rimming, FS, etc, so she can do me next, doesn't sound very exciting.

[Papp83]

This is the place.

Thanks, a pic and a Chinese name of this place will be ok.

[BangBangBang]

Go to Spring massage off Mao Ming Lu, $298 gets you a very pretty girl and what you seek in the end.

PC out

Went twice to Spring massage, and was not able to get anything else than a miserable HJ. I used all my soft skills, fluent Chinese and incentives. Frustrating. Was offered to rub her tits for 100, get a boob-job for 300, nothing more. Just setting expectations that it would be quite hard and, in my opinion, wasted time / efforts, to insist for FS / BJ at that place. That said, maybe there are girls who perform better than others in that join? Mines were #31 and #32.

[Carage]

50K RMB is on the high side. 30K is a more realistic figure which I have heard from various sauna ladies.

[FernandoAlonso]

This is China. Do the math. I haven't found any girls who will fuck during their period. Knock off 7 days. Leaves 23 days a month to generate the 50, 000. 2173 a day. Maybe. Be careful what you believe when in China.

50000 is rather on the high side and yes this is China so if one of the friends there in one month earned that much it becomes standard for all. This is China. LOL.

From my credible first hand experiences here is the math:

3 to 5 customers per day in average is possible and if they do not make it will cut loose any how. Typical daily range is 2 to 8, so the average fits. It used to be pretty standard 200 RMB per customer tat landed in the pockets of the girls, may have gone up a little now or in higher end places but I am not sure. They work at least 25 days a months, often they must proof to management they are really on the rag so this is more a minimum, usually they only take 2 to 4 days off (I know, better not think about it). They are in for the money, other than shopping not much use for spare time, you do not make too many friends while on this job other than a few colleagues.

So all in all 20 000 to 30 000 is a realistic figure in average. Superstars will get more, but as also said rightly before the more thye earn, the more they spend, so indeed it is not that easy get rich from it.

Hope that helps a little.

FA

[MrClen]

RMB 50, 000 is quite credible. Some of my regulars told me they get about 300 / client (excl. repeat bonus etc) and they serve about 7-10 per day. These girls are money machines during their prime when they work in popular saunas and are young etc. Problem is they can do it only for a while cause it is very tiring. Some girls use their time off to go shopping (Xujiahui is the usual place, even for Sacrosa girls who should have plenty of shops nearby) or travel to nearby places (Suzhou, Hangzhou). Their situation is a far cry from the BBS or SPA crowd, believe me. You do the math : the infamous English teachers make, what 10-20,000 ?

This also tells us what the places are bringing in! X girls x customers x entry fee x extras $$ = no wonder these places exist and thrive! And explains why they are not going to be shut down anytime in the near future, too many people are making too much money from them, above and beneath the table.

Your other post: I don't know which would be worse, unless the girl was a scat eater-eeewwuh! I've not experienced rimming (at least not in a Sauna) , so can't comment too much, but I understand that they clean and purify your nether regions before rimming. Either way, either end, the thought turns me off. I personally do KTV girls mostly so my thought is that I could at least be the first for the day and maybe the first in several days. Not a perfect thought or idea but it kind of clears the head and lets the little one do all the thinking and talking.

[Changlelu]

Also, I know this doesn't bother some mongers, but I always have to wonder where I fall in their daily chain of servicing customers, and it is a bit off putting to know the girl you might like to DFK with just finished a few minutes ago doing BBBJCIM with who knows what! My POV only.

MrClen

I have the same thought whenever I want to kiss the girl, but my concern is not so much BBBJCIM but the rimming part.

[Changlelu]

This is China. Do the math. I haven't found any girls who will fuck during their period. Knock off 7 days. Leaves 23 days a month to generate the 50, 000. 2173 a day. Maybe. Be careful what you believe when in China.

RMB 50, 000 is quite credible. Some of my regulars told me they get about 300 / client (excl. repeat bonus etc) and they serve about 7-10 per day. These girls are money machines during their prime when they work in popular saunas and are young etc. Problem is they can do it only for a while cause it is very tiring. Some girls use their time off to go shopping (Xujiahui is the usual place, even for Sacrosa girls who should have plenty of shops nearby) or travel to nearby places (Suzhou, Hangzhou). Their situation is a far cry from the BBS or SPA crowd, believe me. You do the math : the infamous English teachers make, what 10-20,000 ?

[MrClen]

Two hand job gals in the Jingan are tell me they are paid 5000 per month. One is hoping to get 10, 000 eventually. They live on site and work long hours, not going outside much. They imply that tips are rare as are laowei customers. Their shops charge 208 and 228 for oil massage. They could be telling me a lower figure to get sympathy and a higher tip.

From me.

BJ.

This is China. Do the math. I haven't found any girls who will fuck during their period. Knock off 7 days. Leaves 23 days a month to generate the 50, 000. 2173 a day. Maybe. Be careful what you believe when in China.

[/QUOTE]OK-I forgot the "RED" days. I guess they just have to do more on their good days. Still sounds like a lot of money though and she is really going to be well used by the end of her "year". But, I guess you really can't wear it out-stretch it a bit maybe, but not wear it out!

[Beijing4987]

Two hand job gals in the Jingan are tell me they are paid 5000 per month. One is hoping to get 10, 000 eventually. They live on site and work long hours, not going outside much. They imply that tips are rare as are laowei customers. Their shops charge 208 and 228 for oil massage. They could be telling me a lower figure to get sympathy and a higher tip.

From me.

BJ.

This is China. Do the math. I haven't found any girls who will fuck during their period. Knock off 7 days. Leaves 23 days a month to generate the 50, 000. 2173 a day. Maybe. Be careful what you believe when in China.[/QUOTE]