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  1. #12092
    Quote Originally Posted by Midwestern  [View Original Post]
    She asked me if she was my GF and I said sure.

    But I paid her anyway as I wanted to establish a precedent so that she understood what this really was.
    I believe you're sending very contradicting signals. Even if you're paying her, telling a girl she is your girl friend is sending very strong signals.

    You will disappoint this girl at some point. It would have been much more simple to tell her you are friends with mutual benefits rather than positionning her as your girl friend.
    While this girl is going to suffer some, you have to understand she may also try to make you suffer by making problems for you.

    Just my 2 cents anyway since you're asking.

  2. #12091
    Quote Originally Posted by Midwestern  [View Original Post]
    Several months ago, I started asking MP girls for their wechats. Then later that day, I texted them, "can we have sex?" Obviously almost everyone said no, and for many different reasons. Eventually, a girl said okay, but after I kept telling her for many weeks how much I liked her and how beautiful she was, etc. She asked for 3000, LOL, but I talked her down and eventually she said okay to 2000, so I decided it might be worth it (she has a humongous rack). So on her day off she came to my hotel. At first she was nervous and I had to coax her clothes off and obviously she didn't know the usual drill (shower together, BJ, multiple positions, etc). So, we showered separately and she was pretty much a starfish in bed, but she obviously doesn't have sex everyday and so she actually seemed to enjoy it. She stayed for a couple of hours and I eventually had to kick her out. I then texted her later that from now on I will give her 1500. She said okay. I guess once a bridge is crossed then the price can go down. And, after all, she now realizes that I'm a normal decent guy. We met again for repeat fun. And now she texts me almost every day to chat and every night to say goodnight. She wants to meet me regularly on her days off. She asked me if she was my GF and I said sure. Eventually I will tell her I can only pay 1000. We'll see what she says. Then, recently, another MP girl who I've been texting for several months also finally relented and said she'd meet me at my hotel. Again, she didn't know what do when we met, and so we cuddled and I had to coax her clothes off and then she got really horny and the fun began. She was disappointed after I popped. Afterwards, she stayed in the room for 3 hours!, and I finally had to kick her out. She begged to stay longer, before her shift began 4 hours later, and I basically did a Charlie Sheen and paid her 2000 to leave. .
    Hmmm. A normal decent guy eh. Sounds to me a bit like you're slightly taking advantage of the girls (even if they work in a MP), which isn't exactly what a decent guy would do.

  3. #12090
    Quote Originally Posted by Aurangzeb  [View Original Post]
    CNY60 for a (surprisingly good) foot massage, add CNY60 for a (not brilliant, but very relaxing) body massage (no oil). Round it all off to CNY200 and I've found a place I can hit whenever the mood sets in. I'm confident I'll get her to blow me, eventually. Will keep you guys posted.
    Based on your budget and based on what you want, why don't you go to 76 Changshou?

  4. #12089

    Treasures

    I've done the Spring circuit (think I've tried like 10 of them) and they're good for a massage (of mixed quality, usually decent, occasionally mediocre or outstanding) followed by a dynamite hand-job. At most, you can negotiate with the girls for more, depending on your paying capacity. It's comfortable and consistent, but with my income I can't afford to hit them more than once a fortnight, and I've got a larger appetite than that.

    So I've been prowling around for an inexpensive MP where extras were on offer, that I could frequent more often.

    After getting massaged (and spending a ludicrous amount of money) at a bunch of places, I've finally found something.

    It's a non-fancy foot massage place that seems to cater primarily to Chinese clientele. I was passing by, wondering what this place was (the sign wasn't in English), when I noticed a picture of feet in a tub of water with rose petals. Obviously some kind of spa. Went in and asked for a massage. By gesturing, we communicated, and I was led into a small room and made to sit on a sofa. A girl (nothing special, late 20's to mid 30's, but a beautiful smile and smelled delightfully fresh) came in with a tub of hot water, put it down and had me put my feet in. She then took off her jacket, draped it on a hanger and then placed the hanger on a hook above the window on the door, effectively sealing the room from prying eyes. This was my first hint of something to come, because in my 'research' I've seen this trend: At almost all MPs the doors have windows. The windows are usually blocked by hanging clothing on hangers, over the window. When LE is cracking down, and the MP is in legit mode, the hangars are bare. When they're open to extras, the windows are blocked. I felt hopeful.

    So she did the foot massage (which was good!) and it seemed like time was up, without any action. I was like wtf? So I used an app and asked if any other massages were available. She used her app and said a body massage was on offer. I told her I wanted this, expecting her to have me undress (thus far I was fully clothed with my pants pulled up so my feet could soak / be massaged), but she didn't. She fiddled with the sofa a little and it turned into a massage bed. The massage was sans lubricant, and through my clothes, but relaxing. Her touch was familiar but not blatantly sexual. Her hands often went high up my thigh, and unlike the massages I've had at high-end legit places, where they studiously avoid anything that may turn you on, the sides of her hands occasionally brushed against my cock and I started to get turned on. I waited to see if she'd notice, or do more, but she didn't. So after it happened a couple of times, I laughed, said 'sorry', and reached down to adjust myself, making it known that I was hard. She looked at my crotch, look at me and laughed. But she still didn't initiate anything, and kept doing as she had been. The fact was now out in the open though, and every time her hand brushed me, I'd sigh or laugh or groan playfully and she'd laugh too.

    At one point, I was laying on my back while she sat next to me, massaging my shoulder. I (instinctively, without thinking) moved my hand so she had space, and rested it on her thigh. She didn't object. I started caressing her thigh. She didn't object. I moved my hand up and down her torso. She didn't object. Emboldened, I then moved my hand under her armpit and cupped a boob. She smiled. And didn't object.

    So I put my hand on hers and moved it over my cock. She smiled at me, closed her eyes and began to caress my cock, over my jeans. But she wouldn't do anything more. We started using translation apps again to communicate. She just wouldn't do more. To cut a long story short, in this establishment, the owner disallows any sexual gratification. He seems to turn a somewhat blind eye to sexual arousal, but no gratification. I was aroused and frustrated, but excited that I'd discovered something. Went home and jerked off over the next few days with the image of her face, eyes closed, while she explored the contours of my cock.

    I went back there today. Same routine: foot massage, body massage, and feeling each other up. I put my hands inside her bra, played with her nipples. Pulled her shirt down and kissed them, teased them with my tongue, while she caressed my dick. It was incredibly sensuous. It's hard to explain. I am a grown man, looking for sexual release, and here I was being felt up by this girl, like a teenager, and I was loving it. I wore track pants today, and boxers instead of briefs, so both her and I were feeling more. After a while, I raised the elastic of my tracks, and she slipped her hand in and wrapped it around my cock. What followed was the most exquisite and tantalizing slow hand-job I've ever had. I blew my load while sucking her tits and felt (deliciously) like I was 16 again.

    CNY60 for a (surprisingly good) foot massage, add CNY60 for a (not brilliant, but very relaxing) body massage (no oil). Round it all off to CNY200 and I've found a place I can hit whenever the mood sets in. I'm confident I'll get her to blow me, eventually. Will keep you guys posted.

  5. #12088
    Last time I picked a girl from Manhattan was at least two years back or may be more when I got that super chick in 500 rmb st. I repeated her many times and shared her number with many here. Now she is in Viet settled with her BF but still in touch online like friends. Never had the guts to pick these average looking girls nowadays to pay 1500/2000/3000 rmbs when I can pick best of Uzbek, Russian beauties in just about 350 rmb st in my own country after reaching back in few days. On my personal opinion these girls getting that much amount is no sense. Market totally spoiled by Chinese locals in Manhattan.

    Quote Originally Posted by RTheMan  [View Original Post]
    Had a great time hanging out with Blacklisted. Always fun to compare stories with a fellow ISGer. We hit both Judy's and Manhattan, since he hadn't been there for a while, and there were lots of yummy choices at both. I thought quality was bit better at Manhattan, but since I took a girl from there earlier in the week, thought I would fish at Judy's. First girl I chatted up was sexy and sweet, but hilariously asked for 2 K for ST, and would only go down to 1800, so I bailed and kept looking.

    By 11:30 pm I found and took out Anna, who attracted me with her tight, sexy red dress. She was slightly older at early 30's than my usual preference (I like them young, petite, natural tits), but all Asians look younger to me, so that was fine. She had a really nice body, I usually don't like enhanced tits but hers were soft and really well done. But her attitude was all GFE. Holding hands, kissing in taxi, really attentive and really wanted to be sure that I was happy. And I was. Excellent BBBJ just the way I like, starting in the shower and before and after sex. She was nice and tight, but I finished with CIM. Afterwards she gave me a firm massage. She wanted to stay LT, but I'm not an overnight guy, but I would definitely recommend her. Gave her a bonus for good service for 1600 total.

  6. #12087

    Asking MP girls for outcall fun

    Several months ago, I started asking MP girls for their wechats. Then later that day, I texted them, "can we have sex?" Obviously almost everyone said no, and for many different reasons. Eventually, a girl said okay, but after I kept telling her for many weeks how much I liked her and how beautiful she was, etc. She asked for 3000, LOL, but I talked her down and eventually she said okay to 2000, so I decided it might be worth it (she has a humongous rack). So on her day off she came to my hotel. At first she was nervous and I had to coax her clothes off and obviously she didn't know the usual drill (shower together, BJ, multiple positions, etc). So, we showered separately and she was pretty much a starfish in bed, but she obviously doesn't have sex everyday and so she actually seemed to enjoy it. She stayed for a couple of hours and I eventually had to kick her out. I then texted her later that from now on I will give her 1500. She said okay. I guess once a bridge is crossed then the price can go down. And, after all, she now realizes that I'm a normal decent guy. We met again for repeat fun. And now she texts me almost every day to chat and every night to say goodnight. She wants to meet me regularly on her days off. She asked me if she was my GF and I said sure. Eventually I will tell her I can only pay 1000. We'll see what she says. Then, recently, another MP girl who I've been texting for several months also finally relented and said she'd meet me at my hotel. Again, she didn't know what do when we met, and so we cuddled and I had to coax her clothes off and then she got really horny and the fun began. She was disappointed after I popped. Afterwards, she stayed in the room for 3 hours!, and I finally had to kick her out. She begged to stay longer, before her shift began 4 hours later, and I basically did a Charlie Sheen and paid her 2000 to leave. She said she didn't want money and wanted me to take her to dinners and movies and shopping and buy her gifts and be nice to her. But I paid her anyway as I wanted to establish a precedent so that she understood what this really was. Eventually I'll pay her less as we keep meeting. Anyway, just wanted to share my experience on trying to get MP girls for outcall fun. Persistence can pay off. And keep in mind that these girls have days off and probably don't have much to do on their off days and would be happy to make some extra money. I admit the conversion rate is very low, as I probably propositioned over a dozen MP girls (most strung me along for repeat visits to the MP, oh well, lesson learned). As an aside, I felt kinda safe, since I know where these girls work and so I assume their workplace has their ID on file. Would appreciate any constructive comments. Insults also welcome. I like learning from my ISG friends.

  7. #12086

    Baby from Nightlife. Online.

    Truly tiny. Petite isn't a strong enough word. Her English isn't that good, her face is a 5, and could use some dental work, but good attitude and service with a hot little body. Nice girl.

    Action started in the shower, pretty nice. All she had to do was lean over a little LOL.

    BBBJ and covered fun followed. Hitting that in doggy was surreal. And tight! Nice pampering and massage in between pops.

    Overall good and unrushed experience, but I will not repeat. I'the recommend a trip to Manhattan instead for a better value.

    Cheers!

  8. #12085
    Quote Originally Posted by SnrMan  [View Original Post]
    Friend of mine showed me a place on Fahuazhen, just west of intersection with Zhongdeqiao Lu. Only sign is "Spa". 15 minutes walk from Crown Plaza on Panyu or Longemont on Yanan Xi Lu. VIP Massage for 369, girl is nude and includes HJ. Been there 4 times; 3 time FS was offered for 300 tip. Girls better than average lookers -.
    I tried to look for this place today but couldn't find it. You sure It's on Fahuazhen, west of Zhongdeqiao? The only MP there is a place calked Neil Massage and they only had a standard 238 massage and no English menu.

  9. #12084
    When you guys mention ST, is that based on time or number of pops?

  10. #12083

    Judy's success

    Had a great time hanging out with Blacklisted. Always fun to compare stories with a fellow ISGer. We hit both Judy's and Manhattan, since he hadn't been there for a while, and there were lots of yummy choices at both. I thought quality was bit better at Manhattan, but since I took a girl from there earlier in the week, thought I would fish at Judy's. First girl I chatted up was sexy and sweet, but hilariously asked for 2 K for ST, and would only go down to 1800, so I bailed and kept looking.

    By 11:30 pm I found and took out Anna, who attracted me with her tight, sexy red dress. She was slightly older at early 30's than my usual preference (I like them young, petite, natural tits), but all Asians look younger to me, so that was fine. She had a really nice body, I usually don't like enhanced tits but hers were soft and really well done. But her attitude was all GFE. Holding hands, kissing in taxi, really attentive and really wanted to be sure that I was happy. And I was. Excellent BBBJ just the way I like, starting in the shower and before and after sex. She was nice and tight, but I finished with CIM. Afterwards she gave me a firm massage. She wanted to stay LT, but I'm not an overnight guy, but I would definitely recommend her. Gave her a bonus for good service for 1600 total.

    Heading out now, but looking forward to my next trip back to Shanghai (but before that, will be in Bogota and Sao Paulo for hobbying fun).

    Enjoy, boys!

  11. #12082

    TingTing

    Had a free afternoon so thought I'd try a delivery service. Read the recent posts about Nightlife. Online (the resurrected SNG) so I WeChat'd Coco. Booking was a breeze and TingTing was in my room 45 min later. She was just what I needed. A GND petite friendly girl with perky B's and a tight little slim body. Photos and prices on the site are accurate, and Coco considerately sent a current photo so I'd know her in the lobby (my hotel has a key card). And in the room she was a tiger, with some nice kissing, sexy massage, and lots of positions. Could have done without the fake moaning, but it was a great experience. I would certainly repeat and use Coco again.

    Heading out later tonite to hang with a fellow ISGer at Judy's / Manhattan. Looking forward to another nice catch.

    R.

  12. #12081

    Dance Halls

    Quote Originally Posted by DoItUnderwater  [View Original Post]
    Hi All,

    It's been a while since I was in Shanghai. I have been reading all the posts about windy weather in SH in the last year. Very disappointing. I am coming back in May and hoping that the Massage places on Shaanxi Lu and Changshou Lu are still in operation.

    I stay near Gubei / Putuo and would appreciate any recent intel of places in that area; mostly happy massage places. I am not one to go with the girls from places like Manhattan.

    I also recall reading a couple years ago about some dance halls where you could dance with various girls for about 20 RMB per dance and have some touchy, feely fun. Does anyone know if any of them are still in business?

    I will post field reports as always.

    Thanks all. Keep enjoying that sweet young flesh.

    Doit.
    All closed I'm afraid. Can be accessed in smaller cities such as Suzhou or Chengdu but not Shanghai. Good luck!

  13. #12080
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    I had good experience two years straight at Sheraton HongKou. A few of us returned from Manhattan each with a girl around mid night. Just walked over to the elevators and went on up. No questions asked. Same thing two years in a row. So I would say girl friendly.
    I usually stay at the Hotel Equatorial, next to the old Hilton (now a Kun Lun hotel). Nice hotel, a little cheaper than the Hilton, close to the Judy's / Manhattan action and girl friendly. Just go straight in to elevators.

  14. #12079

    Sheraton HongKou GF.

    Quote Originally Posted by SamCan  [View Original Post]
    Girl friendly hotels do not ask you to sign the girl in. I actually used to stay at the Sheraton HongQiao. I would walk across the street to the massage parlor pick up my girl after work at midnite. Walk her back to my room for the night and the doorman would hit the elevator button for us. I was 48, she was 22. We surely didn't belong together. No worries at all. -girl friendly.

    At the hilton, the doorman would stand in front of you and direct you to the counter to sign in. One time the girl was on her second round going to the hilton that evening. Hilton, unknown to me signed her in earlier with someone else. The Hilton informed me that if I signed her in again they were obligated to call the police as no woman should be signing into two different rooms in the same night. - not girl friendly.

    At least they were customer friendly and told me
    I had good experience two years straight at Sheraton HongKou. A few of us returned from Manhattan each with a girl around mid night. Just walked over to the elevators and went on up. No questions asked. Same thing two years in a row. So I would say girl friendly.

  15. #12078

    Manhattan Viet Takeout.

    Went to Manhattan about 10 pm Saturday night, expected to be a dude fest but was pleasantly surprised to see a wide selection and not too many guys. Bought my obligatory drink, 50 RMB Heineken.

    Selection really great. A true buyers market.

    Narrowed in on a super cute spinner, Ly, 24 yrs old, goes back to Vietnam tomorrow.

    Very bubbly, chatty, flirty, smelled good. Etc. We quickly agreed to 1500 for short time.

    Taxi drivers scamming for 200/180/150 RMB but we waited for a legit metered taxi for a 50 RMB ride.

    Back to hotel in Minhang. Total GFE. Her body was legendary. She danced for me. So nice. DFK, BBBJ, DATY, some momentary BB cowgirl sex to tease me into a cover. Which by the way slipped off during final stage doggie and oops, busted a tremendous nut inside the honey pot. She was totally cool about it.

    For me Manhattan has been hit or miss, but tonight was a bullseye.

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