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  1. #5087
    Quote Originally Posted by Ikksman  [View Original Post]
    Please appreciate that 600/3000/5000 pricing is typical of the high end clubs operating in China. These clubs are for the very wealthy. I am aware that the #8 KTV in Beijing had pricing of 1000/2500/5000 some 2 years ago.

    Diamond KTV has probably had similar pricing for the past few years. It is not an average SZ KTV and the price has not suddenly jumped because of the crackdown.

    There are clubs for the very wealthy and clubs for the rest of us.

    Cheers.

    P.S. Also to put things in perspective, in 2001 I was offered, by a beautiful Japanese girl with nice bolt-ons who was in the bar of the HK Grand Hyatt, a night of debauchery for HKD9000! Fixed price! Way above my league! I wonder what the pricing is today?
    What does the 600/3000/5000 get you?

  2. #5086
    Quote Originally Posted by Ikksman  [View Original Post]
    P.S. Also to put things in perspective, in 2001 I was offered, by a beautiful Japanese girl with nice bolt-ons who was in the bar of the HK Grand Hyatt, a night of debauchery for HKD9000! Fixed price! Way above my league! I wonder what the pricing is today?
    Let me guess. Probably 500 HKD if she is still lucky. Fortunately, unlike gold, girls depreciate in time. Hahaha.

    doing the calculations based upon korea red light district 15 minute 'salary'. it is actually a standard K price. at 50usd every 15 minutes for six hours i mean.
    Last edited by Stinkyfeet; 07-29-14 at 07:23. Reason: add the calculations

  3. #5085

    SZ KTV Overpriced?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stinkyfeet  [View Original Post]
    {S N I P} Diamond KTV. Small room is 2000 rmb. Girls prices are 600/3000/5000. At 5000 its completely unaffordable for me. Also, difficult to even think about spending that cash when there are fukable girls for only 150 rmb that is only a 7 minute walk away. Diamond girls have a lot of plastic surgery ranging from 6-9's (I saw two 9's that night).
    Please appreciate that 600/3000/5000 pricing is typical of the high end clubs operating in China. These clubs are for the very wealthy. I am aware that the #8 KTV in Beijing had pricing of 1000/2500/5000 some 2 years ago.

    Diamond KTV has probably had similar pricing for the past few years. It is not an average SZ KTV and the price has not suddenly jumped because of the crackdown.

    There are clubs for the very wealthy and clubs for the rest of us.

    Cheers.

    P.S. Also to put things in perspective, in 2001 I was offered, by a beautiful Japanese girl with nice bolt-ons who was in the bar of the HK Grand Hyatt, a night of debauchery for HKD9000! Fixed price! Way above my league! I wonder what the pricing is today?

  4. #5084
    Quote Originally Posted by Stinkyfeet  [View Original Post]
    Police still roam but the girls just hide inside the apartments and the business changes. Just need to go inside the scary buildings to see the girls (5-7's). Lots of HK mongers there. Quality is suprisingly good. Service is hit or miss but the first girl that I selected, the service was very very good. Sans the CBJ, everything was awesome. Anybody recommend any KTV's in shenzhen, I proweled around and wasn't happy with the prices at this one place. Diamond KTV. Small room is 2000 rmb. Girls prices are 600/3000/5000. At 5000 its completely unaffordable for me. Also, difficult to even think about spending that cash when there are fukable girls for only 150 rmb that is only a 7 minute walk away. Diamond girls have a lot of plastic surgery ranging from 6-9's (I saw two 9's that night).
    I think that Diamond KTV has always been the most expensive KTV in Shenzhen and its pricing is not indicative of typical KTVs in SZ. 600/3000/5000 is only for the very wealthy, and has probably always been at or near these stratospheric levels. Unfortunately I have no idea of which KTVs currently offer takeout or there pricing structures. In fact I have not read of CP type pricing structure in the SZ forum.

  5. #5083

    SZ overpriced pussies

    5,000 RMB for pussies? That's ridiculous.

    SZ hos are pricing themselves out of the pussy market.

    Most of them will be hungry.

    They will hate their stupid leaders.

    Quote Originally Posted by Launchnow  [View Original Post]
    LOL. The buildings are not so scary, that's just my opinion. Be confident but mindful of your surroundings. Many of these girls are not trustworthy, but sometimes you meet some really nice gems.

    KTV prices, ugh, that 5000 price is nuts. Totally agree with you.

  6. #5082

    So a miss, a hit and an interesting incall

    So I had one last day in SZ and thought I'd have some fun, but it didn't go as planned due to delayed flights, a torrential downpour and a much quieter scene then the week before.

    I tried the Xiang Xi Cun as reccomended by Ikksman, and the first time I did see a couple of guys and 4 not so great looking women, it was early, so I thought I'd try later. I was horny, so I walked back to the apartments behind Shangrila. As I got there it started to rain, and hard! I took cover in an alcove, and was acosted by a mama. She took me in and up to see what girls where available. One was shown, at 150, and she was fat and rough. So I said no, and got up to leave. Mama told me she had others, and made some phone calls. No one appeared, we then tried another flat. Still nothing.

    So I left to try again later that night.

    A few hours later, around 1 am I walked to XXC and now there was nothing, feeling extra horny and brave I walked up to a couple guys and an older woman sitting where I saw the working girls and asked if there was anything going no. It was a resound no. So I walked back up to the Shangrila apartments. Here there was a lot more action, two main groups of girls. But now the mamas and papas where a lot more aggressive and wanted 300-500 a girl. I stuck to the 150 price, and go no where. So I walked up to the 7-11 and found the mama from before. She took me back to the same group of girls, and I chose a spinner for 200. Took her up and she was beautiful. Slim, perky, and very tight.

    The room was okay and sex was great, no BJ, kissing, etc, but was so tight it was fun.

    As I walked back to my room, I was accosted by a middle aged street walker, who gave me her number. I got back to my room, still feeling horny, so I gave her a call. 200 for an inroom massage and sex. She wasnt the best looking woman, face or body, but gave a sexy light massage, lots of body kissing and a BJ, followed by vigorous sex, I closed my eyes, pictured the first girl and shot a load. Was worth it!

    Over all a little hit and miss, a lot less talent than a week back, but still fun to be had, the price for a ST in the Shangrila area is now 200, as you can still get a 150, but she won't be worth it.

    If anyone wants ti give the incall a try, pm me and I'll send you her number.

  7. #5081

    Wow

    LOL. The buildings are not so scary, that's just my opinion. Be confident but mindful of your surroundings. Many of these girls are not trustworthy, but sometimes you meet some really nice gems.

    KTV prices, ugh, that 5000 price is nuts. Totally agree with you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stinkyfeet  [View Original Post]
    Police still roam but the girls just hide inside the apartments and the business changes. Just need to go inside the scary buildings to see the girls (5-7's). Lots of HK mongers there. Quality is suprisingly good. Service is hit or miss but the first girl that I selected, the service was very very good. Sans the CBJ, everything was awesome. Anybody recommend any KTV's in shenzhen, I proweled around and wasn't happy with the prices at this one place. Diamond KTV. Small room is 2000 rmb. Girls prices are 600/3000/5000. At 5000 its completely unaffordable for me. Also, difficult to even think about spending that cash when there are fukable girls for only 150 rmb that is only a 7 minute walk away. Diamond girls have a lot of plastic surgery ranging from 6-9's (I saw two 9's that night).

  8. #5080

    I found the place

    Quote Originally Posted by Stinkyfeet  [View Original Post]
    Police still roam but the girls just hide inside the apartments and the business changes. Just need to go inside the scary buildings to see the girls (5-7's). Lots of HK mongers there. Quality is suprisingly good. Service is hit or miss but the first girl that I selected, the service was very very good. Sans the CBJ, everything was awesome. Anybody recommend any KTV's in shenzhen, I proweled around and wasn't happy with the prices at this one place. Diamond KTV. Small room is 2000 rmb. Girls prices are 600/3000/5000. At 5000 its completely unaffordable for me. Also, difficult to even think about spending that cash when there are fukable girls for only 150 rmb that is only a 7 minute walk away. Diamond girls have a lot of plastic surgery ranging from 6-9's (I saw two 9's that night).
    I found the place but it was very quiet, walked around for a bit and saw a couple of guys and 4 girls. I said Hello, but no response. I'll try again later.

  9. #5079

    Xiang Xi Cun and diamond KTV

    Police still roam but the girls just hide inside the apartments and the business changes. Just need to go inside the scary buildings to see the girls (5-7's). Lots of HK mongers there. Quality is suprisingly good. Service is hit or miss but the first girl that I selected, the service was very very good. Sans the CBJ, everything was awesome. Anybody recommend any KTV's in shenzhen, I proweled around and wasn't happy with the prices at this one place. Diamond KTV. Small room is 2000 rmb. Girls prices are 600/3000/5000. At 5000 its completely unaffordable for me. Also, difficult to even think about spending that cash when there are fukable girls for only 150 rmb that is only a 7 minute walk away. Diamond girls have a lot of plastic surgery ranging from 6-9's (I saw two 9's that night).

  10. #5078
    Quote Originally Posted by Magimbe  [View Original Post]
    I visited Xiang Xi Cun last night, there is a lot of girls around and the quality is really good, the problem is that they are not approaching you as a foreigner and I guess the speak zero English, I saw some real good ones I would rate them as 7's or 8's.

    They are moving all the time in the back alleys, going back and forward and in circles, there is surveillance cameras on the streets, I saw that they take the interested customers in some more secluded corner to negotiate.

    I could not really make contact with the ones I was interested in so I got back to the more "touristic" RLD near the Shangri-La and got a girl back to my hotel for 400 Rmb for 2 hrs after discussing the price for a while.

    Girl was a 6 , she gave did her best, but sent her back after 1,5 hrs and 2,5 pops.

    And called it a night.
    Thanks for the report. Interesting that the girls are out in the open and moving around. Did you recognise Mamas and Papas?

    I sincerely suggest you learn a few Chinese words and phrases (from the thread of the same name here).

    Surveillance is becoming ever more pervasive in China. Maybe the girls have learnt that there is surveillance software that alerts operators when individuals, or groups of people, linger in one spot too long One of many automatic recognition functions available these days (others include people entering specific areas or zones, leaving objects unattended, violent acts, gunshot detection, tracking specific persons, etc etc).

    I return home to SZ next week and I will visit XXC to see the changes.

    Cheers.
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  11. #5077
    Quote Originally Posted by Launchnow  [View Original Post]
    Yes PM me.

    Yes I had fun wi / my sort of gf, she is really really nice. And she has great skills since she used to be massage girl. So can't really lose, right? She only worked at Perthden for a few months and then quit. Heard some interesting stories, but now it's just a "mouth burst" place.
    Heh, nice. Maybe we can share stories over a drink. If not on Wednesday then on Thursday.

    SJ.

  12. #5076
    Quote Originally Posted by Ikksman  [View Original Post]
    My final point is that I believe that activity in the village goes up and down quite dramatically depending on the frequency and severity of LE attention.
    I visited Xiang Xi Cun last night, there is a lot of girls around and the quality is really good, the problem is that they are not approaching you as a foreigner and I guess the speak zero English, I saw some real good ones I would rate them as 7's or 8's.

    They are moving all the time in the back alleys, going back and forward and in circles, there is surveillance cameras on the streets, I saw that they take the interested customers in some more secluded corner to negotiate.

    I could not really make contact with the ones I was interested in so I got back to the more "touristic" RLD near the Shangri-La and got a girl back to my hotel for 400 Rmb for 2 hrs after discussing the price for a while.

    Girl was a 6 , she gave did her best, but sent her back after 1,5 hrs and 2,5 pops.

    And called it a night.

  13. #5075

    Yes

    Yes PM me.

    Yes I had fun wi / my sort of gf, she is really really nice. And she has great skills since she used to be massage girl. So can't really lose, right? She only worked at Perthden for a few months and then quit. Heard some interesting stories, but now it's just a "mouth burst" place.

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenJones  [View Original Post]
    I maybe there Wednesday night, I will let you know!

    Hope you had a good time with your sort of gf.

  14. #5074
    Quote Originally Posted by OldAsiaHand  [View Original Post]
    I believe where you describe is known to us old timers as Seibu BBS. Is the Seibu Department Store still there on the corner? It has been awhile since I have mongered there but I do remember the area with fond memories. In the day, it used to be wide open with girls hanging out of the shops. Last time I was there, most of the shops were closed but there were plenty of touts around selling their wares albeit at higher prices to include their margin. Is it worth a visit now? How does it work?

    Just my POV.

    OAH.
    OAH, I am not sure if you are just joshing me! I am pretty sure that you know that the Seibu Department Store closed in either 2009 or 2010, and that the Cun shops (the Seibu BBS) were mostly closed by the end or 2010. Apparently they never re-opened in numbers after a big crackdown around that time. Surely you have driven around that area since 2010!

    I have posted here a number of times that I am mainly a freebie fan, and am not a frequent P4 Per. I have been to the village maybe 20 times and participated about 8 times over about 4 years.

    The first time I visited XiangXiCun was, I think, late 2010 and at that time there were a few shops open, but no girls hanging out of them (rather subdued actually). I am unaware if there was activity in other parts of the village that have since been knocked down. The last time that I was there was before CNY this year. I have recently been tied up in relationships and travel commitments.

    A few years ago, there were times when numbers of SYTs (maybe 15 or so) have been in the alleys in the afternoons, but none in the evening, between say 8-12 (maybe more in the early morning). During the afternoons they often sat at the intersections of the very dark alleys. But mostly papas and some mamas were there to take you to see the girls. A few times the girls were in shops behind closed doors, but mostly, up the stairs. A few times there were 3 or 4 girls in the rooms. If you rejected them all, then you would have to go down to the alleys again. No more were brought to you in the room!

    As a foreigner, they usually asked 300ST and 500 back at your hotel. Usually negotiated to half those prices. I never had much luck trying to negotiate BBJ etc, even when I was able to communicate in tortured Chinese. Quality was always a bit hit or miss, but IMO generally much better than the other well known haunts talked about here.

    Is it worth it? Up to you! But it is the only place that I know where you can readily get takeout.

    My final point is that I believe that activity in the village goes up and down quite dramatically depending on the frequency and severity of LE attention.

    Cheers.

  15. #5073
    Quote Originally Posted by Launchnow  [View Original Post]
    Sorry. I didn't realize it was full. It has been at 200 limit message for some time but I cleared it out. Let's connect next time yeah!

    I've also been meaning to write about perthden. Their massage menu is hilarious. It is laminated and you can get massage with.

    "mouth burst. " hahah. That seems like BJ I think. Anyway it was the top (highest price) of the menu.

    I wanted to take a menu photo but didn't. I left.

    LOL. BTW, my sort of GF was a massage girl at perthden last year, but she is now legit.
    I maybe there Wednesday night, I will let you know!

    Hope you had a good time with your sort of gf.

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