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  1. #5581
    Thanks guys for the fast response. I have not used a US passport for years since I have access to Taiwan passport. China no longer need a Visa for people with Taiwan Passport.

    I didn't know that they have a 1 time entry for $50. Last I heard that it was a 10 Year Visa for $140.

    I am asking for my brother who have never been to China and just want to visit Shenzhen for a couple of days. I will pass the information to him.

  2. #5580

    No more

    Quote Originally Posted by Csun213  [View Original Post]
    I was told by someone that there is now a 3 day Visa free visit to Shenzhen. I was told that if I fly from LAX to HKG on US passport, I can visit Shenzhen for 3 days without a Visa? Just would like the local expert here to confirm this. Thanks.

    P.S., If this is true and I want to stay longer than the 3 days, would it be possible to go to Hong Kong on the 4th day then re-enter back to Shenzhen on the same day to start another 3 days Visa free?
    To csun213.

    Is this your first time to Shenzhen there are no more 3 days voa at the Shenzhen border for US passport for over 10 yr, just get your China visa back in the US China consulate single entries is 50 USD for 30 days.

    Fast eddie 48.

  3. #5579
    Quote Originally Posted by Csun213  [View Original Post]
    I was told by someone that there is now a 3 day Visa free visit to Shenzhen. I was told that if I fly from LAX to HKG on US passport, I can visit Shenzhen for 3 days without a Visa? Just would like the local expert here to confirm this. Thanks.

    P.S., If this is true and I want to stay longer than the 3 days, would it be possible to go to Hong Kong on the 4th day then re-enter back to Shenzhen on the same day to start another 3 days Visa free?
    The short answer is no.

    If you fly into certain designated airports in China and have a confirmed onward flight you can apply for a 72 hour visa free entry.

    To enter China from Hong Kong into Shenzhen there are other rules.

    Best to check the Chinese embassy website in the USA for the latest information.

    Teltel.

  4. #5578

    Visa Question?

    I was told by someone that there is now a 3 day Visa free visit to Shenzhen. I was told that if I fly from LAX to HKG on US passport, I can visit Shenzhen for 3 days without a Visa? Just would like the local expert here to confirm this. Thanks.

    P.S., If this is true and I want to stay longer than the 3 days, would it be possible to go to Hong Kong on the 4th day then re-enter back to Shenzhen on the same day to start another 3 days Visa free?

  5. #5577
    Quote Originally Posted by Ikksman  [View Original Post]
    There never was a Tairyo Teppanyaki branch at the CITIC Plaza in Shenzhen.{S N I P}
    I forgot to add that the CITIC Plaza was sold and resold and has been undergoing major refurbishment since around the end of 2013 when it changed its name to Terminal One (WTF! It has now been renamed to something else (I forget what), and mostly re-tenanted in the last 12 months or so (and still no Tairyo Teppanyaki, haha)!

    MixC sounded the death knell for CITIC Plaza. Plus many more 'ernai' to meet around MixC for brave intrepid mongers!

    Ikks

  6. #5576
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsune9  [View Original Post]
    The only reason for me to eat a lot in restaurants is that the waitresses s are usually happy to give their phone number to me. They can practice their English and sleep in a bed better than much of the accommodation provided by the restaurants. I met one girl whose bed was made from wooden pallets to keep her bedding above the often wet floor at the back of the restaurant. Understandably, I had a hard job kicking her out of my bed!

    I never knew that there was a Tairyo branch in CITIC Plaza. Anyways, that is now a moot point because the center has been closed for some years. And, of course BuWeiCun (behind the CITIC) and its WGs has been closed for even longer (sure to bring tears to the eyes of old asia hands here).{S N IP}
    Kit
    There never was a Tairyo Teppanyaki branch at the CITIC Plaza in Shenzhen.

    However there is a Tairyo Teppanyaki branch at the CITIC Plaza in Guangzhou!

    My preferred Japanese restaurant in Luohu is on one of the top floors of King Glory Plaza. The level above the large health club. If you go up by escalator rather than elevator, you can't miss it. You see all the beauties toiling away on treadmills, then leave the escalator at the next level and you can't miss the restaurant. I agree!

    Ikksman

  7. #5575

    Tairyo Teppanzaki

    Don't know how the food is served in the Luohu branch. The one at Citic Plaza had chefs cook and serve the food right in front of you.

    I had a fun memory at the Tairyo in Citic plaza with a dinner date with a pretty 22 YO business contact. She was a virgin, never had a boy friend, and was afraid of men. I kissed and groped her before but nothing more. I invited her to dinner at the Tairyo, trying to get her drunk on the all you can drink sakes, then go back to the hotel with her. She was a petite, young girl who never drank alcohol before. She was eating and drinking a lot of sake and different beers, while I was just sipping everything to keep myself alert. Tonight was to be the night!

    By the end of the night she went to the rest room and came back, looking nice, sweet, pretty, clean, sexy in innocent ways. We went out to the taxi then I lost consciousness, forgetting what happened after that. I woke up the next morning tugged in bed without my shirt but with the pants on. She left a note saying she was sorry she had to leave me in that state. I had passed out in the taxi and she had to have the hotel guys help her carried me to my room. She took my shirt off to help me breathe and tugged me in bed.

    What a sweet and pretty girl.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsune9  [View Original Post]
    IMHO the Tairyo Teppanytaki are OK, nothing special. But I think that you are safer wrt contaminated and chemically modified foods in a known restaurant chain (maybe). What they do not provide is a full teppanyaki experience. Food is cooked elsewhere and brought to the table.

    Kit

  8. #5574
    The most common way to wish someone a Happy New Year is to say "Gōng xǐ fāci". The actual translation is something like "Respectfully wish you to get rich!" Now that doesn't sound like a Chinese greeting does it? LOL.

    If someone you know well wishes you a happy new year, you can respond "Hng bāo n li" (Give me a red envelope). Haha!

    There are a number of other new year greetings such as "Xīnnin hǎo" and "Bb gāoshēng".

    Anyway a special new year greeting to all the Chinese SYT WGs out there and hope that you do not develop the "Princess syndrome", and nor do your families denigrate you because they have found out about your career move!

    I happened to find an old post about WGs that I wrote about 2 years ago on some ISG forum (not sure which). I thought it interesting to reprint it here in its entirety, as it is fairly appropriate in relation to the girls returning to their hometowns in the current circumstances. I have updated a few bits (in blue italics).

    "I was chatting on Wechat the other day to an ISG monger (> 200 posts) who claimed he used to go Zhuhai and ChangPing. I was most surprised when he said to me "The WGs in Southern China are all sluts that their family sends to works as xiao jie, so that they can have an easy life back in the province".

    "I just said "Really? Actually, you obviously know fuck all about China" and cut the conversation.

    "So this is directed at you, M (you know who you are).

    "There are a number of scenarios how naive rural girls from South China end up as WGs. Let me give one very typical, and probably the most common, scenario:

    "The girl comes from a poor rural family, and there are probably other siblings. Her family struggles and they never had enough money for the girl to continue her education past the minimum required by law. The father, whether he be a farmer or worker, probably has an income of less than 300 per month. Some farmers have incomes of less 1,000 per year!

    "There is no work for her locally. So she tearfully leaves for the Pearl River Delta (at the age of 16 or 17), where there are tens of thousands of factories.

    "She desperately wants to fulfil her filial obligations, especially to her mother who lovingly raised her (the father probably continually called her a worthless piece of shit). Possibly someone in the family needs healthcare (the government provides fuck all), or she wants to help educate her younger brother. She may even be ambitious and want to save and return home to start a small business. She toils 12 hour days, 6 days per week, is treated like shit and struggles to survive on the minimum wage of less than 1,000 per month (Now probably 1,500 to 1,700 and actually 2,000 in SZ). She may even owe money to a loan shark (borrowed to pay for medical and hospital expenses for family members).

    "Typically, she meets another girl or relation she knows from her village or county, who tells her she is earning 10,000 or even 20,000 working at a KTV or sauna. She thinks that this would be a horrible job (some don't mind the idea), but asks the girl to help her get started. She may need to start at a BBS to earn the money to cover her start up costs (training, costumes etc), or if she is a beauty, the KTV will provide a loan (at exorbitant rates).

    "She may even have the dream of meeting a rich Chinese guy who will set her up as an ernai (or marry her)(but only a minute percentage achieve these goals).

    "Hopefully, she does not fall prey to the ice / meth that is offered to (or forced on) her at KTV parties, or fall under the control of a cockroach, who will take most or all of her earnings. And hopefully she can put up with being forced to drink heavily every night in a KTV, or being fucked by multiple guys every day in a sauna (and having to massage, AR and BBBJCIM laowai like me). She may even choose to go to a BBS to avoid these horrors.

    "However, hopefully, she is one of the small number whose sacrifices make a meaningful difference to her family, and is able to return home, with money, and resume a normal life, and marry an unsuspecting local guy. But most girls do not, and remain trapped in the environment, dreading every day and hoping that the guys who fuck her today are at least decent and do not abuse her, or return to the drudgery of factory life. Yes, I do admit that a tiny percentage of the girls actually enjoy the work for a while.

    "Unfortunately, there is also the increasing trend for the girls to develop a 'princess syndrome'. I would commit the originators of this trend to 'death by a thousand cuts'! I guess that this was an attitude developed by real beauties and copied by the other girls.

    "Anyway, this is all largely hypothetical now as Xi's great yanda has decimated the WG population and the opportunities for new girls to enter the 'trade'. And so they remain, trapped in their low paying factory jobs, hoping for a knight in shining armor who never comes. I wonder what will happen when the current factory closures and use of robots create a surplus of factory fodder?

    "P. S. Today, the 'Word of the Day' sent to my mobile phone, was 'penetralia'. I thought that I had just discovered some kinky new apparatus. Sadly, it just means 'the innermost parts or deepest recesses of a place or thing'. Hmmm!

    Ikksman

  9. #5573
    Quote Originally Posted by LukeSkywalker  [View Original Post]
    I don't read Chinese so I am not sure. I think these names are phonetic equivalents of the same Chinese word. The branch in Citic City Plaza had the Dairyu sign. The one in Louhu is much more convenient if you monger.
    Next to Home Inn there is another Japanese buffet. I was eating late there one night when the chef, managers and workers were having their late dinner leaving, the kitchen unattended. A huge rat was wandering on the counter searching for food.
    What are your opinions of the food in Tairyo?
    Are there any other good places in that area and in Luohu?
    The only reason for me to eat a lot in restaurants is that the waitresses s are usually happy to give their phone number to me. They can practice their English and sleep in a bed better than much of the accommodation provided by the restaurants. I met one girl whose bed was made from wooden pallets to keep her bedding above the often wet floor at the back of the restaurant. Understandably, I had a hard job kicking her out of my bed!

    I never knew that there was a Tairyo branch in CITIC Plaza. Anyways, that is now a moot point because the center has been closed for some years. And, of course BuWeiCun (behind the CITIC) and its WGs has been closed for even longer (sure to bring tears to the eyes of old asia hands here).

    Again, I have never seen a Japanese restaurant / buffet next to the Lianhua Building. There are Indian, Chinese and Xinjiang Muslim restaurants on the south side of the building itself. And there are at least 2 Japanese restaurants over the road in the Carrianna Plaza.

    IMHO the Tairyo Teppanytaki are OK, nothing special. But I think that you are safer wrt contaminated and chemically modified foods in a known restaurant chain (maybe). What they do not provide is a full teppanyaki experience. Food is cooked elsewhere and brought to the table.

    The are so many restaurants in Luohu it is impossible to give even a cursory impression here (and of course it is OT). There are hundreds (thousands) of restaurants that represent all different provincial styles of cooking, the most common probably being Hunan.

    Kit

  10. #5572

    Perthden Hotel

    Quote Originally Posted by Froggie58  [View Original Post]
    When did they re-open the massage center? I was back in Shenzhen late last year and it was shutdown. The Perthden was my weekend massage stop as I knew a couple of the girls that worked there.

    Froggie
    I do not know when it reopened. I have just been in Shenzhen this month.

    Cal8.

  11. #5571
    Quote Originally Posted by California8  [View Original Post]
    Perthden Hotel in Luohu,
    Cal8.
    When did they re-open the massage center? I was back in Shenzhen late last year and it was shutdown. The Perthden was my weekend massage stop as I knew a couple of the girls that worked there.

    Froggie

  12. #5570

    Perthden Hotel Leisure Center

    Perthden Hotel in Luohu, go to the 5th floor. Ask for anmo, front desk gives you a locker key, old and small locker and shower area. Area with lounging chairs if you want to rest and watch TV. Upstairs are rooms with bed and TV screen.

    The gals have on warm up suits, you get a cursory massage, HJ and BBBJCIM; I am told FS not allowed. She opens up her top and pushes her pants down to her knees. I encountered all low 20's age gals.

    308 RMB but 30 RMB discount if you mention you are connected to them on WeChat. They have never asked to see my phone. From the look of the photos they post, there may be FS but the shift starts at 21:00 and I was always there before then.

    Cal8.

  13. #5569
    Quote Originally Posted by Ikksman  [View Original Post]
    Currently, it is not possible to fly direct to Shenzhen Bao'an airport (SZX) from USA, Europe or any other non-Asian airport (irrespective of what some posters have implied).

    Tomorrow (January 27), China Southern will commence direct flights between Shenzhen and Sydney.

    Americans and Europeans will have to wait awhile for direct flights to SZX (remember Guangzhou is the main hub for China Southern).

    You could fly to Shenzhen but this would require transit at another airport for between 4 and 20 hours! Then add the taxi times in Shenzhen traffic on the G4 and Binhe Ave (peak hour is most of the day). Admittedly, things will improve when the MTR Line 11 (express) opens. But with all the collapses and sink holes caused by tunneling last year, who knows when the new lines will open.

    For Americans and Europeans, there are still better ways to travel to Shenzhen, principally via HKIA and then ferry or MPV (usually Toyota Alphard). And miracle of miracles, one can pay for these trips in RMB (so no need for HKD haha).

    Ikks
    And just a quick note: The flights into and out of HKIA from most areas in China and maybe other Asian locations are considerably cheaper than flying into SZX or even Guangzhou. Of course, local transportation eats up some of the savings, but there is no "free" lunch.

  14. #5568

    Good news for Australians!

    Currently, it is not possible to fly direct to Shenzhen Bao'an airport (SZX) from USA, Europe or any other non-Asian airport (irrespective of what some posters have implied).

    Tomorrow (January 27), China Southern will commence direct flights between Shenzhen and Sydney.

    Americans and Europeans will have to wait awhile for direct flights to SZX (remember Guangzhou is the main hub for China Southern).

    You could fly to Shenzhen but this would require transit at another airport for between 4 and 20 hours! Then add the taxi times in Shenzhen traffic on the G4 and Binhe Ave (peak hour is most of the day). Admittedly, things will improve when the MTR Line 11 (express) opens. But with all the collapses and sink holes caused by tunneling last year, who knows when the new lines will open.

    For Americans and Europeans, there are still better ways to travel to Shenzhen, principally via HKIA and then ferry or MPV (usually Toyota Alphard). And miracle of miracles, one can pay for these trips in RMB (so no need for HKD haha).

    Ikks

  15. #5567

    A new place in Luohu with WGs!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsune9  [View Original Post]
    These instructions are direction less. No monger would be able to follow these directions and arrive at the plaza. Why would a person deliberately write such vague and in fact incorrect directions? And there is no Police Station on Renmin Nan Lu!
    And I can confirm reports of posters that there have few if any touts around the area in the last 3 months. And certainly none since the beginning of December. Mongers need to go further afield to some of the other places reported here.
    Kit
    There is a gap between 2 buildings on the opposite side of the Renmin South Rd. I think it may have been across from a major hotel; maybe the Century Plaza? I can't remember! Behind the buildings, there is a square and a Police Station. Now all mongers will know the location. Below is a photograph of 3 WGs frolicking in the square.

    We also saw a new Police CRH pursuit bicycle based on CRC technology (Bombardier or Alstom), to chase those poor WGs down and around the narrow alleys of villages. Bit like running the bulls in Pamplona.

    Ikks
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails SZ1 PS Cardboard.jpg‎   SZ2 Police Electric Pursuit Bike.jpg‎  

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