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  1. #5129
    Quote Originally Posted by SeeSharp  [View Original Post]
    Ikksman you are a gentleman and a scholar. A true wealth of knowledge! That is very helpful.

    I am staying at the Marco Polo in Futian. Does anyone know of specific action in that hotel or if WG's can be found in the bars inside or nearby?

    Also, in terms of finding outcall service online which one do people think is the best option? I see China Daily, Backpage, Craigslist and Escortfind as some of the noticeable options. Any thoughts or advice? I can't wait to post a report here with my experience as a first time visitor. Win or lose, I always enjoy the excitement of the hunt!
    Just step out the Side Lobby Door and Stand by the Traffic Light the Totes will find you quickly BTW I have always asked them to see the girl first in person and don't be shy about sending a few back till your happy!

  2. #5128
    Quote Originally Posted by SeeSharp  [View Original Post]
    I am staying at the Marco Polo in Futian. Does anyone know of specific action in that hotel or if WG's can be found in the bars inside or nearby?
    Also, in terms of finding outcall service online which one do people think is the best option?
    A few years ago SWs were very active outside the Marco Polo. Do a search here and maybe more info.

    I know guys that have successfully used shenzhenparty.com and classifieds.chinadaily.com. No idea of pricing and if negotiable or not. Photos will of course be copied from somewhere else (Japan AV etc). I prefer my freebies!

    Cheers.

  3. #5127
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    Fast Eddie 48

    Hotel RAID

    Quote Originally Posted by SeeSharp  [View Original Post]
    Do the hotel staff in SZ ever contact LE if they suspect you of bringing a WG to the room? Or am I over thinking this and it is no different than most other places where if there is any turbulence a well timed tip will make the problem go away?

    BTW Ikksman, your How to Meet Freebies post is one of the best I've ever read!
    To SeeSharp.

    As far as I know that is only going on in Chang Ping and Dongguan area, the crack down there is heavy most newbie think hotel room raid is all over China is not but most city in S China bbs and KTV has been closed down and not been reopen.

    Fast eddie 48.

  4. #5126
    Quote Originally Posted by Ikksman  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the compliment. Appreciated!

    (Truncated)

    The above is just my understanding (a bit disjointed). Updates, corrections and differing opinions welcomed to help us gain a better picture of SZ.

    Cheers.
    Ikksman you are a gentleman and a scholar. A true wealth of knowledge! That is very helpful.

    I am staying at the Marco Polo in Futian. Does anyone know of specific action in that hotel or if WG's can be found in the bars inside or nearby?

    Also, in terms of finding outcall service online which one do people think is the best option? I see China Daily, Backpage, Craigslist and Escortfind as some of the noticeable options. Any thoughts or advice? I can't wait to post a report here with my experience as a first time visitor. Win or lose, I always enjoy the excitement of the hunt!

  5. #5125

    Seniors please pardon my ignorance

    Dear Ikksman,

    What an excellent read (great info shared) and also a big thank you for writing in with so much details.

    In General...

    Adding to your brilliant post, this is what I have to share.

    A couple of friends and I took a call to celebrate Bachelor's for one of our mates. So the common heaven for this obviously would be Bang-the-cock (Bangkok), LOL in SE Asai. As most of us had visited this place at some point or the other, we decided to change. One of our friend's deals (business) a lot with a small town in China that goes by the name Shantou.

    He said he will write in to his local contact there and set up the whole gig for us (we were planning on 3-4 days). , In came his reply, which categorically cleared the air that the form of entertainment that was available is no longer there, and there have been a lot of LE actions in and around the place. Post the New years the Govt wants to clamp these activities. Blah blah blah. In short, he basically advised us to change locations from China to somewhere else.

    So yes, sir you are right and in fact reading your post has corroborated what the local vendor of my friend advised us.

    Seniors just sharing what / how much I can.

    Thank you.

    FunkySexy.

    P.S. We boys are now traveling to HCMC (Vietnam) any advice on PM would be highly appreciated, please.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikksman  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the compliment. Appreciated!

    I do not think that punter safety is any different from previous. For the totally paranoid, it would be 100% safe staying in a hotel with massage / sauna services (such as Lotus, Perthden, etc) and ordering room service with FS (and of course no walk of shame). In my opinion, FS is available in the places that previously offered it, as long as one is known, a hotel guest or VIP card holder (cheap and recommended).
    The above is just my understanding (a bit disjointed). Updates, corrections and differing opinions welcomed to help us gain a better picture of SZ.
    Cheers.

  6. #5124
    Quote Originally Posted by SeeSharp  [View Original Post]
    Do the hotel staff in SZ ever contact LE if they suspect you of bringing a WG to the room? Or am I over thinking this and it is no different than most other places where if there is any turbulence a well timed tip will make the problem go away?

    BTW Ikksman, your How to Meet Freebies post is one of the best I've ever read!
    Thanks for the compliment. Appreciated!

    Prior to the CNY crackdown, and contrary to the opinions of one or two posters here, most agree that raids of LE on hotel rooms are unheard of in SZ, in the last 8 or so years. This is of course, as long as other crimes have not been committed. Some years ago, (2009?) SZ LE publicly paraded some WG, touts and customers. The central government firmly and publicly told lower level governments, and the PSB, that this would not be tolerated.

    To the best of my knowledge, the offer of the 5000 RMB reward for informing on prostitution, and the consequent raiding of hotel rooms only occurred in Dongguan. There is and always has been, no incentive for SZ hotel staff to report punters (only disincentives).

    And also to the best of my knowledge, there have not been any hotel rooms raided in SZ. There have been a few raids in SZ on KTV premises etc. There was one raid reported here that was instigated by an investigative reporter trying to cash in on the Dongguan brouhaha.

    The situation appears to be that the club / leisure centre / massage / sauna / spa / KTV owners were seriously warned by the police (PSB), and the owners, touts and the girls were extremely concerned that what happened in CP and other parts of Dongguan, could happen to them. I am not aware of hotels, KTV, and saunas closing because of the crackdown (as occurred in DG). The resultant impact was that BBBJ and FS became generally unavailable in the clubs / spas etc, and the touts and the girls temporarily disappeared from the BBS in the villages. Escort type services (advertised in news services, cards under the door, etc) were unaffected.

    SZ is slowly returning to normal, but girls are still fearful of takeout, and massage / sauna / spa no longer openly advertise full service. Interesting that HappyMassage dot com still carries data regarding which places offer full service (unchanged from start of yanda).

    It is worth noting that many of the major BBS action spots reported on this forum (such as Shatsui and Shuiwei) have degenerated almost completely over the years because of previous concerted crackdowns. Some older villages have also been demolished (a fate that will soon befall Xiangxi and Luohu, as parts of both have already been demolished). Certain KTV / massage / BBS areas have also been sanitised, particularly in Futian (such as Gangxia) which may be partly due to the area increasingly becoming the financial hub of SZ?

    The current situation is that (apart from BBS), FS is not readily available to the casual punter. Repeat visits would be necessary, or arranging private 'dates' with the girls.

    I do not think that punter safety is any different from previous. For the totally paranoid, it would be 100% safe staying in a hotel with massage / sauna services (such as Lotus, Perthden, etc) and ordering room service with FS (and of course no walk of shame). In my opinion, FS is available in the places that previously offered it, as long as one is known, a hotel guest or VIP card holder (cheap and recommended).

    The above is just my understanding (a bit disjointed). Updates, corrections and differing opinions welcomed to help us gain a better picture of SZ.

    Cheers.

  7. #5123

    SZ Hotels

    Quote Originally Posted by SeeSharp  [View Original Post]
    Do the hotel staff in SZ ever contact LE if they suspect you of bringing a WG to the room? Or am I over thinking this and it is no different than most other places where if there is any turbulence a well timed tip will make the problem go away?

    BTW Ikksman, your How to Meet Freebies post is one of the best I've ever read!
    The Intercontinental has girls in and out of the lobby all night. You can take them to the Hotel bar, drink, dance then go to your room no problem.

  8. #5122

    Hotel staff

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikksman  [View Original Post]
    If members are contemplating visiting Macau, go to the Macau forum and look at the prices. OK for millionaires!

    BTW, I don't think that anyone here has reported a hotel raid in SZ? I stand to be corrected.

    Cheers
    Do the hotel staff in SZ ever contact LE if they suspect you of bringing a WG to the room? Or am I over thinking this and it is no different than most other places where if there is any turbulence a well timed tip will make the problem go away?

    BTW Ikksman, your How to Meet Freebies post is one of the best I've ever read!

  9. #5121
    Quote Originally Posted by StormCat  [View Original Post]
    My advice is that taking girls to hotel in Shenzhen is still a bit risky and many KTV girls are not willing to go to hotel recently. I believe Macau will be a better choice at this moment.
    If members are contemplating visiting Macau, go to the Macau forum and look at the prices. OK for millionaires!

    BTW, I don't think that anyone here has reported a hotel raid in SZ? I stand to be corrected.

    Cheers

  10. #5120
    Quote Originally Posted by Cory001  [View Original Post]
    Hey guys,

    I'm planning my friends Bachelor party and we're looking for a good KTV experience. Most of our experience is in Singapore and Thailand so this would be a new setting for us. Hoping to end the night with taking 4 or 5 girls back to our hotel. We haven't settled on a location yet but I was strongly leaning towards LuoHu, Shenzhen. The only recent posts I've seen on pricing was for Diamond with an over night price of 5000. I think that's a bit crazy!

    Are there more reasonable KTVs around? 2 guys in our group can speak the local language but they don't have any experience in this city. Our backup idea was Macau, but honestly the KTVs seem limited there and didn't see encouraging prices either.

    Any advice would be much appreciated and of course we'll share our experience!

    Cheers
    My advice is that taking girls to hotel in Shenzhen is still a bit risky and many KTV girls are not willing to go to hotel recently. I believe Macau will be a better choice at this moment.

  11. #5119
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSurfie  [View Original Post]
    So I was in Shenzhen for a few hours and I decided to roam around a bit. The Shangri la apt aunties right outside the train station and in front of the Shangri La apts are super pushy and were quite annoying. I guess with the crackdown over they're trying to make up for lost time and revenue? I also encountered an auntie in front of Xi Long the Sha (Across the street from the Starbucks) along Renming South Road but I didn't catch what apt building she said the girls were at as I was hurrying along to Xiang Xi Cun.

    I finally made my way over to Xiang Xi Cun around 5 pm and there the WGs were in the last 3-4 alleys in the back of the apt block. I think there were atleast 9 different groups of girls usually with 2-4 girls at separate alleyway intersections so I am assuming there are multiple operations using separate apartment towers / rooms making each group its own little brothel. If one had a whole day to kill he could literally go from group to group sampling.

    Anyways as soon as I walked in the alleyway I was stopped by the first group of girls and immediately propositioned. There was 2 girls at first view with a 3rd already upstairs with a customer as I found out later. The girl that was actively propositioning me was cute; I would rate a 7, looked 22-24 ish and had a nice set of c cups. I was really interested in checking out the other groups as I saw a really nice looking girl farther in the middle of the building block that I wanted to get a close look but I'm a weak minded male and the c cups really jumped out at me. Going to take a very strong willed individual to walk by nubile flesh being offered to you. So after agreeing to 150 rmb we go up to the 2nd floor and into their apt which is one living room with a bedroom on the side. Part of the living room had a thick curtain closed where the 3rd girl was with her customer so we took the bedroom.

    Was a wham bam thank you maam experience not GFE which is what I like as wham bam experiences feel cold and impersonal but these apt brothels is what it is.
    Good going, on the 150 price and the fact you got to see a bunch of women, when I was there it was dead!

  12. #5118

    SZ vs HCMC

    Everyone will have a different opinion. I'd say its a toss-up. I get to SZ frequently and have a few years of experience in the region. I spent a nice weekend in HCMC recently, there's a post if you check.

    I would say, if you don't speak Chinese, you will miss the VN GFE with English spoken. Very few girls in Guangdong speak English so the interaction is more challenging.

    If all you want is BBBJ then you can get that at the Perthden hotel in SZ. Outside of that you will be spending a lot of time in the alleys getting BBS-style slam / bam sex. That usually will start with a lame BBBJ. No GFE.

    The continuing disruption from the crack down makes everything unpredictable so it could get better or it could get worse.

    There is good convenient sex to be had in Hong Kong, but it will cost you US $120+. If you have a western passport you can probably easily get down to HK by train in 60 minutes, so an afternoon or evening is doable. Also, you are about an hour from Macau, where there are lots of options.

    So in short, my experience is that you be leaving cheap GFEs for a bigger supply of some cheap, some expensive Chinese girls who will often be pretty, but sometimes cold and mechanical. Within an hour you will have lots of options if you can travel to HK and Macau. If it was just SZ vs HCMC, then I think you have it better in HCMC and will be disappointed for sure. If you can add Macau and HK then you will probably find sufficient options but you will have to travel and up your spending vs HCMC.

    Hope that was worth the time I took to reply!

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanThief  [View Original Post]
    Cheers Ikksman,

    Not what I want to hear, but I will take your word. Thank you for the reply.

    I've been getting a BBBJ with CIM once sometimes twice a week for the past two years. Truely glorious, it makes my life complete, but I'm totally burned out with Vietnam.

    I gave notice at work and will be moving to SZ. I just worry that I might regret giving up my most fulling hobby?

    Maybe I can find glory in FS? I hope so, but my experience with FS has been a bit boring.

    The grass always looks greener, and I can have a much more modern life in SZ, but I have one more year on my work permit here in VN, and my company wants me to stay. Please tell me SZ is better overall.
    .

  13. #5117

    First Shenzhen visit. Need advice

    So I have looked over a large part of this entire Shenzhen thread and the information is abundant. You guys are awesome. However, I also see a lot has changed in the last few months. I have some prior experiences in Taiwan, US and Europe but never in China. Since this is my first trip to Shenzhen and first attempt to hook up in China, I am looking to you guys for your expert advice. Here are the details:

    White guy from California. 38, not ugly, not fat, but not a model either. In town Sunday night the 17th until Wednesday night the 20th. Working during the day and free at night. Staying at the Marco Polo in Futian (Continental Club level if that makes a difference). Prefer freebies but don't think I have enough time to put in the work. However, I did read the Ikksman post on How to meet freebies. Phenomenal and I will try to utilize the info. Would prefer outcall to take / have someone come to the hotel. Not interested in the BBS's, SW's or Spas. Speak very little Mandarin. Money is not a big concern.

    Here are my main questions:

    1. How safe is it to have girls to the hotel after the crackdown? I understand the risk of theft, etc from girl but am looking for info regarding hotel staff reaction / policies and of course LE.

    2. Seems to be many methods for finding Outcall, looking for opinions on which are the best / preferred.

    3. What are the best areas in Futian for trying to find freebies? Don't mind failing as long as I still have a good night of drinks and chasing.

    4. Any other relevant advice for a first time visitor to SZ.

    I know this is my first post but I have always depended on people I knew in the areas I was visiting. However, I do not know anyone in Shenzhen besides a co-worker who I don't really get along with anyway. So thank you in advance for your patience and advice!

  14. #5116
    So I was in Shenzhen for a few hours and I decided to roam around a bit. The Shangri la apt aunties right outside the train station and in front of the Shangri La apts are super pushy and were quite annoying. I guess with the crackdown over they're trying to make up for lost time and revenue? I also encountered an auntie in front of Xi Long the Sha (Across the street from the Starbucks) along Renming South Road but I didn't catch what apt building she said the girls were at as I was hurrying along to Xiang Xi Cun.

    I finally made my way over to Xiang Xi Cun around 5 pm and there the WGs were in the last 3-4 alleys in the back of the apt block. I think there were atleast 9 different groups of girls usually with 2-4 girls at separate alleyway intersections so I am assuming there are multiple operations using separate apartment towers / rooms making each group its own little brothel. If one had a whole day to kill he could literally go from group to group sampling.

    Anyways as soon as I walked in the alleyway I was stopped by the first group of girls and immediately propositioned. There was 2 girls at first view with a 3rd already upstairs with a customer as I found out later. The girl that was actively propositioning me was cute; I would rate a 7, looked 22-24 ish and had a nice set of c cups. I was really interested in checking out the other groups as I saw a really nice looking girl farther in the middle of the building block that I wanted to get a close look but I'm a weak minded male and the c cups really jumped out at me. Going to take a very strong willed individual to walk by nubile flesh being offered to you. So after agreeing to 150 rmb we go up to the 2nd floor and into their apt which is one living room with a bedroom on the side. Part of the living room had a thick curtain closed where the 3rd girl was with her customer so we took the bedroom.

    Was a wham bam thank you maam experience not GFE which is what I like as wham bam experiences feel cold and impersonal but these apt brothels is what it is.

  15. #5115

    SZ KTV action

    After all the talk here about things being closed down, I had been assuming that there wouldn't be any action anywhere.

    I used to go to DG with some good HK Chinese mongerer friends. I saw them last Friday and they said they haven't been there for months, and there really is no action there. DG was just too much in your face.

    I used to go to a KTV with them sometimes in SZ, and I had been assuming that had also been shut. But no. It hasn't changed.

    This particular KTV is just off Longgang Ave, by the Tangkeng MTR in NE SZ.

    Same old thing, they bring a lineup, you choose and it's off to the races as usual.

    It's now 3/6/9 whereas before it used to be 2/6/9.
    Also, the girls are in civvies rather than in KTV fancy gowns, but so what.

    My friends did say that overnight is still potentially a bit dodgy so why is it 3/6/9 then and not 3/6/-- ?. I don't know; I can't answer that.

    But you can still take a girl back to your hotel (we stay in a hotel by the Tangkeng MTR). They said don't go to the room together; go up to your room and the girls will come up 10 minutes later. I did as instructed, and it was all fine.

    Whether this holds true for all KTVs, I don't know. But things aren't as totally dire as I been expecting.

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