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  1. #1427

    Learning Bahasa Indonesia by Teleconferencing With a Tutor.

    I am curious if anybody can give me direction to any ONLINE lessons in Bahasa Indonesia, where you videoconference with a tutor. I know such programs are abundant when it comes to Spanish language tutoring. And cheap too. But, I am having no luck in finding anything in Bahasa Indonesia.

    Why do I want to learn Bahasa Indonesia? Well, it isn't because I am about to go the Indonesia. It looks like a change of job is around the corner and that will put it off for at least a year. But, that give me time to learn. But, to the point, Bahasa Indonesia is supposedly one of the easiest languages to learn. Hence, if it is easy to learn, then why not? I tried to learn some Thai before I visited Thailand, but that was a challenge. Thankfully, Bahasa Indonesia uses the Latin alphabet, as well as ample cognates of Western words. Or uses Western words outright. There is no gender, no irregular verbs, no conjugation and pronunciation is not precise because Indonesians from different regions will pronounce words a bit differently.

    Compare that to Hungarian, where slight pronunciation of a word will result in nobody understanding what you are saying. No room for error with Hungarian, as a point of reference. I was married to a Hungarian woman for 13 years, and all I learned was the profanities, as Hungarians are the most profane people on the planet (and proud of it). And they can curse using their 14 vowels for minutes on end and never use the same profanity twice.

    At someone's suggestion, I did find the book "Making Out in Hungarian" and it is pretty cool, as you tells you practical phrases like "Aku Klimaks" (I'm coming) or what to say when you are in a street fight with a local. But, I think I need to have some active conversations with a native speaker to get a handle on it.

  2. #1426

    Pre-paid SIM card

    I am visiting Jakarta in two months and have a SIM card I bought in Bali in March. It has credit on it now but how can I keep it active for when I arrive in July? I want to step off the plane and start calling straight away. Any help appreciated.

  3. #1425
    Quote Originally Posted by UsPete  [View Original Post]
    For the majority of Indonesians Bahasa Indonesia is not their native tongue. It is rare to meet an Indonesian who is not fluent in her or his native tongue as well as the national language.
    Unless they were born and raised in Jakarta.

    I know so many "Jakartans" that only speak Bahasa Indonesia and only a little of their parents native tongue.

  4. #1424
    Quote Originally Posted by Stykler  [View Original Post]
    It's a shame they are picking up our butchering of the English language rather than a more proper form. Thanks USP for the response.
    Styk you need to consider that Bahasa Indonesia is a lingua franca (language of the Franks / Farangs) and moves very very fast, Dutch trading phrases that were heard commonly only 15 years ago are now redundant while you can hear the same Hokkien words for Me and You being used throughout SE Asia whether in Jakarta, Singapore or Bangkok. Fortunately the internet has created a virtual media for these sweet olive girls to communicate with you.

    For the majority of Indonesians Bahasa Indonesia is not their native tongue. It is rare to meet an Indonesian who is not fluent in her or his native tongue as well as the national language.

  5. #1423
    Quote Originally Posted by UsPete  [View Original Post]
    {Snip}

    So the girl is providing a modern friendship greeting without touching lips! AbFab phrases are a great example on how the underground bencong community in Indonesia which worship UK shows like AbFab, Little Britain and Graham Norton have introduced words and phrases into the Indonesian lexicon or what is termed "gaul".

    {Snip}
    It's a shame they are picking up our butchering of the English language rather than a more proper form. Thanks USP for the response.

  6. #1422
    Quote Originally Posted by OffshoreSwell  [View Original Post]
    Sounds like " mau " it is used in the affirmative. Like "would you like to meet me later" ? "Mau". It means yes I want to.
    Thanks O / S. Most useful.

  7. #1421
    Quote Originally Posted by OffshoreSwell  [View Original Post]
    Sounds like " mau " it is used in the affirmative. Like "would you like to meet me later" ? "Mau". It means yes I want to.
    Hahahah, it's bahasa Abfab! Commonly heard when Edina and Patsy meet up! = Mwah, mwah, mwah, darling. Is this Prosecco? No, where's the CHAMPAGNE. Darling.

    So the girl is providing a modern friendship greeting without touching lips! AbFab phrases are a great example on how the underground bencong community in Indonesia which worship UK shows like AbFab, Little Britain and Graham Norton have introduced words and phrases into the Indonesian lexicon or what is termed "gaul".

    Now if you are still following this, this is where fellow mongers will face problems learning Indonesian. As we spend all our time with indo. Girls and have little interest in speaking to indo. Men we start mirroring and replicating how girls speak. During the '90's whenever I spoke to anyone on a land line in Indonesian for the first time, they would guess I was a Betawi gay. This made me "genit" or what roughly translates as coquettish.

    The youtuber Sasha Stevenson makes the same mistake, when she uses Indonesian, she uses many phrases or slang commonly only used by men which makes her come across as a bit of a tomboy.

  8. #1420
    Quote Originally Posted by Stykler  [View Original Post]
    I'm hoping one of the Indonesia experts here can help me with this.

    Sometimes when I engage with Indonesian women they often use the term "muah"(sp??) . A search of what this means on Dr Google indicates it's something to do with kisses, but that doesn't make sense to me in the context I feel it is being used.

    Can anyone help me out here, I'm curious?

    Thanks.

    Styk.
    Sounds like " mau " it is used in the affirmative. Like "would you like to meet me later" ? "Mau". It means yes I want to.

  9. #1419
    Quote Originally Posted by Menteng  [View Original Post]
    Can you give a sentence as an example? It can be a contraction of two words. Like "can't" that actually is "can not".
    Thanks Menteng. Perhaps some context would be of more benefit. By example, an Indonesian lady friend of mine when she first met me was on her scooter. She used the term "muah" when I first pointed her towards a close motor cycle park. I'm not sure if the "muah" was for me, or for the fact that a safe spot for her scooter was handy.

    I feel quite stupid asking the question actually, but I do wonder what the term means. I think it is affectionate??

  10. #1418
    Quote Originally Posted by Stykler  [View Original Post]
    I'm hoping one of the Indonesia experts here can help me with this.

    Sometimes when I engage with Indonesian women they often use the term "muah"(sp??) . A search of what this means on Dr Google indicates it's something to do with kisses, but that doesn't make sense to me in the context I feel it is being used.

    Can anyone help me out here, I'm curious?

    Thanks.

    Styk.
    Can you give a sentence as an example? It can be a contraction of two words. Like "can't" that actually is "can not".

  11. #1417

    What does this mean?

    I'm hoping one of the Indonesia experts here can help me with this.

    Sometimes when I engage with Indonesian women they often use the term "muah"(sp??) . A search of what this means on Dr Google indicates it's something to do with kisses, but that doesn't make sense to me in the context I feel it is being used.

    Can anyone help me out here, I'm curious?

    Thanks.

    Styk.

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  13. #1415
    Quote Originally Posted by BushRusher  [View Original Post]
    FWIW, .... My 2 cents multiple times LOL.
    Also android phones have a location history and keeps track of where you go. Kind of like the ones that are on GPS enabled sports / health watches that can track and log your bike ride, run, or hike. AFAIK, the history is on your phone and most likely in the cloud too. You can actually share current locations too.

    Forget about iPhones. Some many things are backed up to the cloud.

  14. #1414
    Quote Originally Posted by OffshoreSwell  [View Original Post]
    While we are on the phone subject. Does anybody know if the messages from one sim on a dual sim phone can be stored separately from the messages on the other sim. IE: OS has met many young ladies who have expressed a desire to sample his big thing on a subsequent occasion. OS thinks that this would be a great idea and would love to save the number of fair maiden. However it is quite likely that lady OS would take a dim view of these messages appearing on my phone. The ideal solution would be to have a dual sim phone where messages from one sim can be hidden or indeed the whole sim is invisible to lady OS unless she opens the cover up. Any experts on this?
    Quote Originally Posted by AussieDoug  [View Original Post]
    If you set the store numbers to SIM, you should be able to select which SIM each time you store, so when the SIM is out of the phone no one can see.
    Quote Originally Posted by Golfinho  [View Original Post]
    Pop the SIM out when you cross borders. For storage, yes, they separate. All the talk about 'burner' phones and what not when a simple dual sim solves everything.
    FWIW, with most android phones, you can select where to store telephone numbers, SIM 1, SIM2, phone, or which ever Google account you want that is logged in by your phone under the "accounts" settings. If you have set the sync contact options on in google, it will pick up your phone numbers and save it to Google accounts. That is for general Contact information, including phone numbers.

    For text or SMS messages. Any text messages and phone calls you receive on either SIM will appear in the phone telephone call history and text message app. Just the telephone numbers will appear if the number is not associated with a Contact's number on the phone, Google. Or SIM. So your SYT's text message that she is going to [CodeWord123] you will still be there under her telephone number but will not appear as a contact in your contact phonebook, whether phone, SIM or Google.

    Your phone is not "clean" in the above case. You need to clear all cache messages and history and god knows where. You need to be fairly tech savvy to find all the places.

    Hence burner phone. Factory reset and donate to your SYT.

    On a dual SIM phone, best to stick to an internet based system running on an app like Whatsapp, Line, or whatever. If you uninstall it, you still need to hunt down the backups and data directories. Whatsapp backs up to the phone and can also backup to google cloud. Again need to be tech savvy.

    Burner phone, idiot proof. Break phone up and throw into furnace. Kind of what Payten Manning did in inflate gate. He would be in much deeper stuff in he did not use text messaging and physical destruction. Here end the lesson. My 2 cents multiple times LOL.

  15. #1413
    Quote Originally Posted by FunMan13  [View Original Post]
    I will be in Jakarta at the end of this month. I have not decided where to stay, probably in the north part of town where as suggested by several Jakarta veterans that it is easier to monger.

    I have to go to Bandung from Jakarta. I wanted to buy my ticket online at www.tiket.com. However, I am confused by the several train stations in Jakarta and Bandung (I am going to stay near Alun-Alun on Jl Asia Afrika.) Which Jakarta station should I depart from, and which station in Bandung should I arrive at? Thank you very much for your help.

    Funman13.
    Depart from Stasiun Gambir in Jakarta. Take the Argo Parahyangan eksekutif, you will arrive at the main station in Bandung.

    Do a google for the departure times.

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