I would consider venetian spa as a decent option if you do not have much time and want a quality option in terms of looks. A bit pricey, although compared to Jakarta hotel service the price is still quite good. No time pressure either. Braga (karaoke for ex.) would be an non-spa option but I found the looks less impressive. If you have friends or enough money to spend there is karaoke next to tropicana. You pay around 1. 6 M for the room for the whole evening (including drinks) and then are supposed to negotiate to do more in the room. I have not tried it as I can not rectify spending money on this approach. I received a tour around though and the girls seem fun. Now I understand why so many guys wait in the main area, guess their friends are busy. .
If you want to go for the "free" option and want my maybe wrong advice: I find Bandung girls to be much more pretty and young then in Jakarta but a bit harder if you do not have time to stay around. They are smart. A less moral option would be to chat to one and ask after your 2nd date to be your girlfriend. Apparently people in Indonesia still ask this stuff and it works. Have a bad temper sometimes or just say no enough, they do not like the easy, I do anything for you guy at all. Reason they seem to like bule is cause we not so soft following or girly as most indo guys. Do not shave to often. Be a bit cocky about how great you are.
If this would not work (which I have not experienced yet) and you do not mind investing, just give them gifts. Giving gifts is considered romantic. It shows your commitment to them (how they think). I stay surprised how many double standards they morally have in Indonesia. Recently in the newspapers a guy got married after so called 5 dates with an actress, every date a big gift. I call it buying her. When I ask the girls what they think about it (girls I give nothing except paying for dinner and going out) they call it love and don't see any problem with what I call getting bought by gifts. Comfort is more important then really liking someone. Or just plainly ask how much they want to spend the night if you want to skip all this. Do not worry, its not considered offending, indo guys do it all the time.
Personally i prefer the free wealthier women recently which usually want to pay for me in the beginning, till they accept i am comfortable of doing it for both. Even if they know i am not committed they not mind the first few months.
P.S. Re: Bandung newbie
FYI I visited Venetian and Jl Saritem in the mid afternoon. The latter had plenty of ladies awaiting customers, not necessarily all hotties. If you are a first timer there, it might feel safer to check it out during the day at first.
I see a lot of "Executive Spa" places. They are expensive, as you might expect. I imagine some are more or less expensive than others. I went into the Venetian (near train station and Hilton), and they quoted me 400+k for oil massage and HJ. I think FS runs 800-1200 k. Wouldn't surprise me if locals, or those who speak bahasa, get lower prices.
On the low end, there are Jalan Saritem lanes. Walk west from intersection of Jl Pasirkkaliki 100 m or so. You pass by a very visible police station, which is probably to keep things under control, but they do not appear to be regulating anything. You will be met by men who want to guide you to places, doubtlessly in exchange for a cut. I strongly suspect that after the first visit, you can just find your way down, but speaking basic bahasa could be important. I have heard local prices are 150 k, but I they could be lower than that. In the very narrow lanes (about 4 ft wide) heading south from Saritem are a number of small rooms with 3-8 ladies, dolled up and wearing sexy outfits.
I was quoted 250k, but the room was another 50 k, and I tipped her. She was 33, nice large natural tits and body in good shape. I think I did alright for a first visit. It was the basic short-time in a crappy room.
I tried to use Google Maps to find Aloha massage. It was not where Google said it was, or at least I saw no signs. Can anyone clue me in on its location?
Jesus H. Christ, can't you guys see he's a lonely troll?
Everything he writes reeks of bullshit.
I say we either all pitch in to buy him some rat poison or just ignore him.
Bandung for Novices
I stayed at the Gino Feruci Kebonjati hotel near the train station, and walked to the Venetian Healthspa. The damage was 900000 rupiah, including the upgrade to a suite. That's about $70 US, which is steep for me, but I only had one night in Bandung, and the Venetian is very nice.
I picked a 30 year MILF, curvier than most, but after a week of Thai spinners, I was ready for a girl with meat on her bones.
Interestingly I personally like Bandung and find it one of the nicer places in Indo. Jalan Braga has some pretty good places to eat and there are always girls for P4 P at the North Sea bar.
But to each his own, I can understand that the girls in Bandung may not be the youngest around, but they were no older than I saw in Top Gun the other week, but that places seems to have gone down hill. First time I'd been there for a long while.
You're stories are rather tiresome and remind me of Tjalie Robinson's woeful tales after the transfer of sovereignty.
But strangely I think I can offer some help. There is a very famous accupressure doctor based in Bandung. People with issues, not unlike yours, fly from allover Asia to Bandung to help heal.
He's called Pak Haji (Agus) and is based at Jalan Serayu 3 A (RE. Martadinata) Bandung. An hours accupresssure session costs about Rp120 000 which is less than I paid on my last visit to Saritem.
P.S. Try and learn some Bahasa Indonesian or Gaul the way Indonesian's speak it, not the rigid stuff from the UN textbooks.
Thanks lost99 + p4p report Indigo spa
Thanks for your private msg Lost99 I had not seen it but read it and replied you.
I have a severe mental problem which I never had treated because even though it always bothered me a lot and prevented me from getting girls in Indonesia, I just always got enough girls to keep me satisfied (albeit not nearly as many as other white guys get on average).
So I never saw any reason to have it treated (partly out of shame and partly because my mind kinda keeps me telling not to do anything about it).
Now it has for the first time become so severe that I am really suffering (not getting any girl at all anymore).
I go back home 10 April and I will have to seek out help, maybe still something can be done about it if I find the right help / approach / medicine etc.
Yesterday I went to Dago Indigo spa. I took the car from downtown, big traffic jams all the way but after about 2 hours driving I reached the spa.
I was met by the security in the parking lot and asked them for directions. The first guy told me the Spa had been closed but then another security guy came and brought me to an elevator and joined me.
I think it was the 5th floor but I am not sure about that. I clean place it was indeed, looking very upscale. A Papasan greeted me at the door and brought me inside. He first explained the rules and told me I could select a girl from behind the glass. There were around 35 girls present, and I must say the selection was quite good (20 times better then in aloha).
I selected a slim young sundanese looking girl with braces and contact lenses. (she reminded me a lot of the girl i had met in Gambir station in 2013 when i was in a much better period of my life) .She looked a lot like the young university students that stay in my kos.
The price for one hour massage++ was 650.000 RP excluding the room fee which was 260.000. So in total the price is 910.000 for one hour. The papasan told me the girls expect a tip of 100.000 so the total price is 1 million rupia.
We were brought to a room and the girl insisted I had a shower. She showered and soaped me and after I was done she had a shower (they know how to use the time).
After showering she laid me down on the bed and started massaging me, which she obviously was very bad at. After the massage (i had opted for ++), she started to put on a condom and tried to give me a BJ but i cannot get hard from a BJ with a condom if my life depends on it.
I asked her if she could give me a BBBJ but she said the spa policy did not allow it (bullshit of course). So i told her to stop and i tried to see if she was into some GFE,
So i tried to French kiss her but it was not allowed too she said so what about DATY? (Boleh saya jilat memek kamu?) i love to give a good service but she said NOOOOOOOOOO, not allowed.
My problem is i need the GFE type of foreplay to get turned on but i knew it was not gonna happen. Condom still on my John was sound asleep. She started licking my nipples and neck and ears and with a lot of tugging, trying etc i finally got hardd
So when i finally was hard enough she expertly slipped on a condom and I managed to do the deed. I came really quickly (after about 2 minutes or less) because I had not had sex for at least 3 weeks (the last time had been in saritem). After that we had a shower again, talked a bit and the hour was up. I tipped her the 100.000 so the total damage was 1 million rupia. The papasan came and also asked for a tip so I gave him my (almost full) pack of Sampurna mild sigarettes which he happily accepted.
My dutch friend who had advised me this place had told me the girls in Indigo were very GFE and you could get their number if you got a good chemistry with them. He had had a few girls from the spa and they had become his kind of irregular FWB's (in Indonesian they say Teman Tapi Masrah) who sometimes visited him or went out with him and he only had to pay taxi money if one slept with him.
Well with the girl i had this definately was not going to happen, I did not even think about giving her my phone number.
Was it worth the money: Of course not but i am in a special situation so for me it probably was worth it how weird it may sound to most
Truth or Fiction?
If you've been following JustABule's post's, you've probably gotten the sense that he is an unconfident, self-depricating man seemingly unable to get women (paid, free, or otherwise) no matter what or how hard he tries.
Myself and others have tried to give him advice out of sympathy, but he seemingly does not take it or put it into action, and continues on the same past ways which are proven to fail. The only thing he seems to try is complain about his results here, instead of pro-actively changing his additude, mindset, approach, and other things within his control.
I'm really beginning to wonder if his writing's are True or Fiction? I honestly cannot believe a man, particulary a Bule in Indonesia, can have SO much trouble meeting women no matter how bad his 'game' is.
In the previous post, he let a Fat Arab man snatch a woman from right underneath him, and gave up no fight or fuss? That's not the actions of a 'man' in my opinion. A real man would have told off the Arab, or at least stopped the lady (who he built up a rapport with) from leaving.
JustABule: If you are going to continue to write about your personal life failures and inability to pickup women, and not about pickup or P4P tips in Bandung, perhaps you should stop posting in this section.
I"ve PMed you with some advice on how to stop acting like a Beta-Male, but it looks like you haven't tried to use any of it. This Forum is about SEX, and at this point if you still aren't able to get any, or provide tips for others how to get it, your posts don't bring any value.
Unbelievable but true
Last night (Saturday night) I was in a cafe in Bandung. I met a really beautiful young girl in the bar and we started chatting. She works as a dental assistant in Ruma sakit Advent. We had a great chat and she enjoyed it. Then a really overweight old Arab guy joined our conversation and started to talk to the girl.
The first question he asked her "are you a hooker looking for money or are you a normal girl looking to get laid". She immediately replied him "Nooo I'm not a hooker, sorry I have a normal job".
Ok the fat arab said to her, "then you can come with me to my apartment", get your bag, and lets go".
She looked at me with a kind of apologizing, excusing face, and said, "ok Harry, bye it was nice to talk to you". Then she got her bag, paid her bill and went to the arab who was waiting for her, and they left together.
Jakarta is impossible for me too many snobby girls and too many hot bule guys (its as simple as that) In Jakarta I have not a flying f**ck chance to meet a girl, unless I go for the overweight old ladies. Other towns I tried, surabaya, batam, jogja, solo, semarang and bali. All were very difficult to meet girls.
I don't like the street pickups too risky and the girls are disease ridden and mostly old and ugly, the pretty ones are always taken so you never see them on the street unless you patrol the streets 24/7. And they want ridiculous prices. I have tried Stasium Barat and the moderate to ok looking girls (nothing fancy but not fat) were quoting 1. 5 juta for short time and 3 juta for long time, and frankly it's too much for me.
Aloha I tried, I did not fancy the girls there, overweight and no GF experience for one mile in sight, just mechanically going through the motions, at one time I thought I was being with a robot.
The dating sites and apps, I have them all installed are not working for me, I only meet bullshit girls there who never have time to meet They always say too busy with work or study. But I been too long in Indo to be fooled by lies, the reality all the internet / app girls who look moderately ok to really ok are constantly dating and f**cking girls from said dating sites and apps. Mostly not for money but just because of the fun of it.
Every time I meet a girl its just bullshit (I have a date once every 2 weeks on average) just a rush rush affair, a quick dinner and a coffee and off they are to the next date which will not take place in a restaurant / cafe but in the place of the guy they are meeting.
Interesting reports Justabule.
1. Why stay in Bandung? There are better places in Indo? Bandung is a bit hard too work? The best Bandung girls you meet outside Bandung.
2. P4P, daytime, the bus stop, not too far from the train station. Pretty hardcore, but you will find girls there any time. There are also pick ups available on the Alun-Alun. Check the girls sitting on the benches and strike up a conversation. Some, are do-able. Night time, there is street action close to Aloha.
Aloha can be quite good. I am sure you already tried. There is a fair bit of Indo / European ancestry in Bandung. Pretty girls! Also Caesar palace on Braga, has P4P girls.
3. Non P4P. Wechat. DIA. Tinder. Facebook. Curious why it is not working for you.
Student scene Bandung
I am staying in a classy apartment in Bandung now. The room costs me about 6 million per month and it is quite good. In Jakarta a similar apartment would go for about twice the rental price per month.
My apartment complex is literally chockerblock full with gorgeous young sundanese girls. I like to talk to security and make friends with them and when I was standing with them for one hour (around the lobby) I must have seen at least 30 or 40 gorgeous girls come and go. Almosst always accompanied by either an INdonesian looking guy or a chinese looking fellow.
I asked security what the situation was and they explained me that most of the girls staying in the apartment are students or jobless sundanese girls. I asked them how they can afford the rent and security told me that many of the girls are set up in the apartment by a chinese guy or a wealthy Indonesian guy who pays their rent. In return those guys visit these girls 2 or 3 nights per week for a great night of fun. Most of these girls are therefor minor wives of these guys who always arrive to the apartment by car.
Besides this arrangement with the guy that pays their rent 99% of the girls also have 1 or mostly more then one local sundanese boyfriends. You can see the boyfriends making their appearance (almost always on Motorbike) as soon as the chinese or Indonesian provider has left (mostly less then 5 minutes after he has left).
Now these sundanese boys of course never pay ONE SINGLE RUPIA but they are the ones who sleep with the girls on most nights (and not one of the girls in the apartment ever sleeps one night alone).
I tried to approach some girls but was firmly rebuffed, they are totally not into me. So I asked security to come to my aid and try to recruit some girls and let them know OM bule is willing to pay 1 juta for their services if one wants.
Nothing happened, security talked to some girls but nothing came from it. They prefer their Chinese and especially sundanese lovers but is this really true?
In the weekend the girls go clubbing, round Dago or around other cafe's and clubs. Popular clubs seem to be Moxx, Southbank and Shelters but there are a host of other clubs they visit.
Security told me that especially in the weekend many of the apartment girls like to bring home a bule (if they can find one). That's not true for all girls but quite a few do. On s ome given Saturday or Sunday morning you might witness 6 or 7 bule coming out of the apartment complex with a big grin on their face (well I would have a grin too if I just had slept for free with a gorgeous girl in her apartment but alas this only happens in my dreams).
By far not all of these bule are young guys. One Saturday morning around 11 pm I saw a shit grinned 70+ looking guy departing the apartment (the girls never accompany them to the lobby out of shame perhaps).
And I asked him if he stayed in the apartment (I know he does not because there are currently no bule staying here). He said no mate, I met one of the tennants last night in a cafe and we hit it off so well she invited me back to her place and we had a dream night, what a great sheila she was. I been here quite a few times before because I have been with 6 or 7 girls from this place so far. They are all great girls, not to mention super beautiful and none of them has ever asked me for one penny.
I told him I was staying in this apartment and he said "My god mate, you are the luckiest guy in the world". I can totally not afford this place because I live on a lousy pension of around 1100 AUD per month but if I could I would immediately move here. It must be like heaven for you?
I told him I have been here for one month now but I have yet to get laid. He looked at me as if I was kidding. "No way mate that cannot be true, it is simply impossible, the girls must be banging on your door all night to let them in, I told him it never happened.
He said "Look at me, I am 77 years old turning 78 next month, I look like shit, I have an alcohol problem, I am fat, I have bad hygiene and I pull pretty and sexy girls every time I go out". I don't even have to do an efford, it goes almost automatically.
I am totally sure, if I would stay here at this place I would be able to bang ALL THE RESIDENT GIRLS HERE WITHIN 3 OR 5 MONTHS I am totally sure about that.
I asked him "where do you find those girls in the clubs? and how do you do it?" He told me "I never hit a club mate but i know cafe's where student girls like the ones staying in this apartment complex like to spend their weekends. Sometimes cafe's in or around Dago but also cafe's downtown or around the Cibogo (Pasteur) area, or on Jalan Riau.
I just get a beer and then i scout around the place looking for talent. Most of the girls go to the cafe's in groups, often mixed groups with guys and girls. Now i know for a fact that many of the girls in the mixed groups are just friends with the guys in the groups (just friends from campus or something). I then walk around, greet everybody and have a chat with the various groups occupying the tables.
Often i will get invited to sit with them and i then accept the invitation from the table with the most promising/pretty girls and sit down. They mostly have a jug of beer or a few bottles of spirits on the table and they will get a glass for me and i can join the fun.
Then i start socializing with everybody at that table and making a friend with anybody, especially the guys. As soon as i am in and well accepted i will start informing about my target girl on that table, is she the girlfriend of one of the guys or not, most often she is just single enjoying a night out with her friends.
Then i start zooming in on my target girl, complimenting her on her style and choice of clothes (never her looks), start getting close to her (when i was invited i made sure i got a seat next to my target girl), start joking with her and mostly within 5 to 10 minutes she is all over me as if she has known me for many years, it's that easy.
Sometimes they want to go to their place with me very soon even before it is late, but mostly they want to stay till the end of the night, enjoying the live music and drinks and do some dancing. I love to dance with those sexy gorgeous girls and they seem to love to get more close to me when we are dancing.
After that i seal the deal, if they don't ask me to come with them i will ask them if i can go with them and i hardly ever get a NO, maybe only 1 out of 10 times i got a no but that's life.
I never bring them to my place because i stay in a very grotty guesthouse where i could not invite a nice classy student girl to, she would run away screaming, they always stay in much better places then i do anyway.
"And" the elderly Aussie guy then asked me. "You are what? 40 years old? Well dressed and you look smart I cannot understand why they don't want you".
I told him I also did not know, I told him security is trying to fetch girls for me and that I promise the girls 1 million. He said whattttttttt? "man I am 78 years old almost and I never had to pay girls money, they don't even want it, all they want is s ome bule meat every now and then in their holes, I think something is seriously wrong with you.
And that is where I will be staying, thank you. Now, if we could only get this topic back onto P4 P instead of guys looking for a girlfriend.
Well, Bule, this is not good news, but age does have its challenges. And one of them is breaking down closed doors. Reminds me of an interesting quote I read somewhere. It was spoken by a man who was having difficulty even in the P4 P world, a bit like you describe. Here are his words, "I'll beg for pussy, and I'll pay for pussy, but I will not beg to pay for pussy".
Soldier on, mate, I sense more flat runway just ahead for you.