you have posted only TWO items on ISG:
1st) to ask obvious questions which were answered extensively here already
(why should I and others take the time to write reports, which are long as much as thousands of words, if one does not even take the time to read and ask again the same?);
2nd) to attack someone who spent days (not hours) writing here just to help newbies (those who can read, of course, that's the only basic requirement).
Congratulations for this record. You must be the collaborative one who everyone wants to have in his team in the company where you work.
There is no police on ISG, but a sharp distinction between those who contribute and those who just ask (sometimes even demand). There's room for everyone.
However, I answered your simplest questions ("no", "all", "What would be the purpose of this forum, if not?" = "Yes money talks here") and for more complex topics I hinted you to read what we wrote here, where more than a simple sentence is needed to answer.
No, I will not spend one hour of my time to write again what I wrote before, just because someone else thinks his time is more precious than mine. We are not here to spoon feed, but we show where is the restaurant. What reaction would I get, if I post on the BKK forum "Excuse my question, I am new, is there any red light district? where?".
Don't go to Batam before reading something and understand what is possible to get and what not, or you will be disappointed. This is my advice to any new "explorer".
By the way, you wrote something that really makes sense to me: "I have been going to Thailand for the last few years but I fear my cover story is wearing thin at home. And a few people who should just mind their own business have been commenting on my travels. So I thought I would go for a "business trip" to Singapore for a change."
That's EXACTLY the reason why I never travelled to Thailand but I always have business trips to KL and SIN. Yes, my cover story is getting thinner and thinner.
P.S.: I am just back from a full week stay in Batam. I will not post a day-by-day series of stories, because frankly I have better to do and I am busy (and also this time I have fucked an average of less than 1 new girl per day). But I will provide an update on most important changes on the scene. Stay tuned.
My question's were asked to invoke more discussion about Batam not to draw comments from someone who feel threatened by a newbie to "their forum". But I suppose someone who trolls internet forums as a self appointed policeman is only for looking breaches of etiquette and not the content of the discussion.
I hope you feel good now you have put me back in my place.
Same for me! I HATE that. It happens often. Imagine when a friend (from work, not from mongering) came to visit me in my city with his wife. It was a circus of "Oh why don't you come to visit us with him? We would be delighted. Etc. Etc.
Every time I brought my wife with me to some conference we heard people repeating "Oh why don't you come more often with him!
I was not so lucky.
KUDOS FOR YOU. I am with you.
My problem is people saying to wife "why don't you go with him on his trips (she works full time anyway)". So, I go to vietnam, take her along, and she gets sick and never leaves the hotel room.
After that, I started going to Haiphong to work and told her "very little english, cannot use taxis without translator, etc. ". So she tells people that where I go, not much to see, not much English so she doesn't go along.
But honestly, I'd like to smack some of these interfering people with their suggestions. I about had a fit recently when I told a VN visitor that I work with, who I kindly invited to my place for Christmas as he is in the USA for a few months (and I used my airline points to fly him for free), not to say anything about Vietnam to her when they met. The FIRST thing out of his mouth when they met was was "have you been to Vietnam?" I really dressed him down later I was so ticked off.
Why do all these people think a married couple have to do EVERYTHING together?!
OK I'm done complaining LOL.
You are a Genius.
(but it cannot work in Batam)
One lucky monger
BP, that is a fantasy of mine. LOL. Good on ya!
A friend of mine dealt with the cover story wearing thin perfectly. Took the ball and chain with him on a business trip. Flew economy with terrible connections, made sure they arrived knackered. Was out the hotel door early every morning to attend meetings, did not return until late in the evening. Stone cold sober. Tired, straight to sleep. Rinse and repeat for a couple of days, get some shitty flights home immediately after the last meeting. Leaves the ball and chain stuck in a hotel room bored shitless the whole time, she will never want to go again and will never question another business trip.
I believe all your questions have been well answered already by the reports posted here, not only by myself. Why not RTFF? It will take a couple of hours, but will save a much longer time in pointless wandering.
Yes, someone likes here, someone did not like it at all. Read the reports, so you'll also notice different attitudes and preferences.
You will not find the same experience, type of girl, type of places. RTFF.
2. No. RTFF.
3. All. RTFF.
4. What would be the purpose of this forum, if not? RTFF.
Why should I go to Kampang Bule. Nagoya - NED?
I have been going to Thailand for the last few years but I fear my cover story is wearing thin at home. And a few people who should just mind their own business have been commenting on my travels. So I thought I would go for a "business trip" to Singapore for a change. The mongering reports from there seem to be very expensive.
So that brings me to Batam. Nagoya- Kampang Bule. I have never been there. The reports so far (on here and on the web) are wildly varying. Some say the place is the ducks nuts yet others say it's boring as bat shit. I guess the only way to find for myself is to just go there.
I've been lurking on Badoo / Blendr / Skout (with a spoofed location of Nagoya) at various times over the last few days and it has only taken 20 minutes maximum each time to find a girl willing to come to a hotel and look after me. About 700,000 IRP ($70) seems to be the going rate. That's cheaper than BKK!
NED and Harmoni Hotel looks like the go but I do not know how the systems work there. I have a few questions.
1. Are there any freelancer area's?
2. Do you have to pay the barfines to take a lady from a bar?
3. Are most hotels girl-friendly?
4. I am a 55 year old ugly Australian. Does money talk here?
I am a sucker for a cutie who will make me happy, so for 1 m for a overnight stay is my standard.
If the girl is in a hurry to get out of the room after the 1st round of business. I will only lay 600 k, But if the girl is accommodating (2 or 3 rounds) and then wants to go home I will lay 1 m or more with no hesitation.
I look forward to my next trip to Batam. Look forward to crossing paths with you BP in the future.
Congratulations! A well spent week.
Only fuck-fuck-fuck and change 2 girls every day. Yes, so boring!
Best time window at Newton has always been 1 am-3 am. Pacific maybe one hour earlier, but every time I go I find it less populated.
The price to pay is 500 k for ST with girls in disco, never more than 1 M if they stay overnight (offer 700 k and check their reaction), do your best to not give more than 1 M even to girls from NoName or other pubs. I agree all those places Radu Platunum, Titanium Club, F1 Club are a rip-off to avoid.
10 day stay in Batam
I have recently returned fro Batam after a 10 day stay. I arrived Wednesday and lodged at Swiss-Belinn which is always nice.
The days are spent playing golf or trawling the Plaza's or Massage at Club Atlantis.
This trip I was going to try something different and see what the new joints in Kampong Bule where like.
I was sadly disappointed. I spent Wednesday and Thursday in Kampong Bule, the cost of drinks was high and the Girls were a pain (wanted drinks for the Bar tips). The crowd was Aussies (Which I am), Brits, Germans, Russians etc. So lots of money to spend and not much in return.
So Friday, I went back to the usual, Pacific was fun and met a stunning girl aged 21 yo at around 1 am. Had a few drinks and went back to hotel with her.
Saturday, Noname was excellent as usual. And met an old "friend" from previous holiday. We enjoyed each others company for Saturday and Sunday.
Monday, Went to Newton and also had fun. After prowling around and on my 4th Bintang, met a cute free lance girl at around 1.30 am. After a few more Bintangs we headed back to the hotel.
Tuesday, Planet Zone was quite till very early. So I just enjoyed the Music and met a few girls. Went back to Hotel at around 3 am with a nice girl but she did not speak much English.
The rest of the week was much the same.
I am finding that Pacific, Newton and other places are getting to be populated later and later at night / early mornings now. In the past there would be many girls by Midnight. But nowadays I am finding that the girls are getting to the Clubs by 1 am or 2 am.
On average I would be having to spend around 1 Million for the girls so the cost over the last few years has not gone up by much in the FreeLance places. But in The newer places (Square, Radu Platunum, Titanium Club, F1 Club etc) are a rip off.
If anybody has experiences of any new places in Batam worth trying, please post them so I can give them a try.
In Batam I feel at home and I have many friends in line to go out with me. Plus the new girls I meet every time in disco or noname. Plus the FLs of disco. If all this is not enough, there are the booking joints. And the massage places for short time. All this for max one week on site and only 1 dick. Too much to bear. Why should I go to Jakarta? To have more girls? First give me 3 more dicks and I will still have too many girls in Batam.
Go to Jakarta
To Black Page.
That is why you should just go to Jakarta instead no reason to come here better cheaper and better options in Jakarta, if you live in Singapore want to take a short trip to Batam but a cheap flight to Jakarta is only 2 HR from Singapore.
Fast Eddie 48.
It's always the same. At least a dozen of massage places in Nagoya, which are just booking joints with fishbowl. Many closed, new ones were opened.
The difference is the price. 6-7 years ago prices for till-next-morning booking ranged from 300 k to MAX 1 Juta. Now, it's like 700k-2M.
I have seldom reported about joints, because I like different experiences, but I did. Just read patiently.
Don't expect the same experience as in Thailand or Philippines. This is Indo. Each place has its own feeling and mindset of people.