What an odd question! When I did I say or even mention that?? I have no idea about Singtel 3 G and I do not care at all.
Indonesia has its mobile comm operators and they work well.
Is this your first time you go abroad? When you go abroad, your home SIM works in roaming in the local networks: high costs for calling, receiving, and Internet access. Buy a local SIM for a local number with local prices.
If you want to access Internet abroad with the phone mounting your home SIM (for example to use WhatsApp), you can use any WIFI access point (public or not).
Most popular local SIM is Simpati.
Thanks for your reply.
So you are saying that there is Singtel 3 G network available on Batam island? And I will face no difficulty accessing to the Singtel 3 G network using my SG SIM card?
YES. It will cost you probably 15 k minimum (I buy 50 k). Not a big deal.
Keep your main smartphone with your home SIM card, to be online on WhatsApp and Wechat etc. etc, and buy a cheap GSM phone for the local SIM card. Samsung or Nokia are the most popular. I usually keep both my old GSM Nokia and my Galaxy with me.
Actually, it depends on what you plan to do, what are your habits and limits.
Any adventure different from booking a girl from massage / KTV joint does require a local phone number. Why? Because nobody will ever send you an SMS overseas (expensive).
You can give your WhatsApp number, but then you will be reachable only unde wifi. Not to mention that your WA number is probably your real number, and you don't really want to give it to anyone.
I give my WA number to several girls, but not to anyone at the first meeting.
If you meet somebody interesting, you want to take her phone number. You will exchange SMS and messages at any time. Being reachable and able to communicate MIGHT be critical.
You don't want to risk to meet a stunner who wants your number, but you don't have a local number, because you wanted to save 15k, right?
Depends on your need. In case you believe that you need to be in touch with whoever, then you can get one. But, why would you require one if you are on a full time mongering trip.
Local Handphone number
Since I will only spend 2 days in Batam, do I really need to get a local HP number?
Two different hotels. Harmoni is in the heart of the NED (NoName is in Harmoni), Suites near Windsor (15 minutes walking distance from Harmoni).
What is better? I don't know. Check prices. Maybe Harmoni because it has pool and gym. I don't stay in either one.
I'm planning to go Batam on 11 SEP. When I'm checking hotels online, I'm all confused with Harmoni Hotel and Harmoni Suites Hotel. Are they the same? If not, which one is better?
ALL hotels are girl friendly. Instead of wasting time on those crappy sites, read here or on the Singaporean forum (if you can bear Senglish).
Is Goodway Hotel girl friendly?
The tip I have from other forum says it is. Wondering if you guys have any first hand info.
Going to go to Batam for the first time on Sept 11 weekend. Really looking forward to it.
I see people say that about AC and Pattaya as well. I guess the only answer here is that YMMV and some people find either location attractive but there are some who do find both equally good. Haven't come across anyone who hasnt like either, maybe I missed reading that unique post on the forum. I guess same applies to Batam as well, either you like it or you don't or it grows on you with few visits.
BP, What your FRs provide is the biggest draw which is "Potential". There exists an opportunity for a good time in Batam provided time is spend in figuring out the Venues and MO here. Needless to say liking for Indo gals is a prerequisite. I am not saying that one should fly all around the globe for Batam but if someone is passing through Singapore and has few nights to spare Batam can be an option.
Pitfalls exist in all Cities, degree varies. I always be on guard and take some basic precautions whether be it LOS or any other city that I visit and that is what anyone visiting should do. Risks involved are too many and can be seriously detrimental to ones self.
I feel that one might not be able to rock Batam night and day as you do but opportunities exist for anyone armed with some research and basic knowledge about the venues and MO. Batam might not be for an amateur as you would say but then amateur will never turn pro unless he ventures.
I sure am going to give it a chance on my next visit. Thanks for posting your FRs.
Batam on Ramadhan 2015 (June 2015): summary count
This is the summary of my girl count for my stay of June 2015 during Ramadan (7 days, 6 nights), as duly reported in my previous posts.
In spite of the popular belief that Ramadhan would be not a good period to visit Batam, I had one of my most striking experiences. I've got a similar impression also in previous years.
Indeed, during Ramadhan joints are closed at day time, but they are open at night, or accessible by alternative ways in the day anyway. Besides that, there is a whole world of opportunities to explore (massage pick-up joints should be the last chance).
The good thing is that there is less people coming from Singapore, because most people simply does not know what to do. The overall result is that there are more girls available and less competition, if one just knows how to move around.
Girls booked from massage joints:
1+1 (NA & YA) (1M + 1.2M - 100k discount + 2x300k tip).
1+1 (again NA & YA) (1M + 1.2M - 200k discount + 2x300k tip).
1 (T) (1.2M + 250k tip).
Girls from disco (Newton):
1 (A2) (600k).
Girls met around:
1+1 (TW & A, but A sleeps only) (1M).
1+1 (again TW & A, again A leaves) (500k).
Girls from past stays:
1 (TA) (1M + gift from KL).
Girls from NoName:
1 (O) (900k).
One major fail (virgin D).
(it's always a hit and miss).
Money spent on tips, drinks and various incidentals:
I do not want to think about that!
F. Girls / day: 1.57 (including girls met more than once) (vs. 1.33 in March 2015: +18%.
F. Girls / day: 1.14 (girls met more than once count as one) (vs. 1.33 in March 2015: -14%.
(F. Girls does NOT stand for Flying Girls, neither Furry Girls. I let you guess.).
Total number of hours spent at disco (Newton and Pacific):
About 2h/night on the average. (Once upon a time, it was more than 4h. Am I getting old?
I had a good time in Batam over my 5 night visit and I met some truly charming girls including two Bule bar girls, a stunner brothel girl, and an amateur in No Name who was the highlight of my stay. It wasn't that hard to get acclimated, but you are most definitely right, BlackPage; Batam IS NOT Pattaya or AC. For example, my two bar girls would not or could not barfine me. Instead they preferred hooking up with me in the afternoon for lunch and shag.
It is a question of whether you can enjoy being a big fish in a small quirky pond with only a handful of places to go to meet some great girls or you prefer being a small fish in the big blue Ocean that is Pattaya, BKK, and Jakarta with almost limitless variety. I found Batam to be an enjoyable change of nightlife scenery for a short time frame. A 5 night trip was good for me. I have been meaning to go back ever since I left, but I have never got around to it. Then I discovered Jakarta.
If you look at the RoD section, you'll see a long list of reports of mine from Batam, beginning maybe 5 years ago. This series is not the first, not the best, and I hope not the last one. Lots of stories, some really funny.
However, for you and all, don't ever think it's so easy as it seems reading! It took me a lot before understanding how to move there. It's not trivial.
Also in this thread, there is quite a number of reports of people who was disappointed of the experience in Batam. 95% of posters here say: "I won't be back".
This is not Pattaya. Serioulsly, I would not recommend Batam to anyone seeking a sex-tourism experience. This is different. Some of the pittfalls:
- where to go? (there is no Orchard Towers, no Geylang)
- how to communicate with locals? (few speak English)
- how to know what is the right price for services (taxi, girls, escorting...)? (don't let the local provider understand you have no clue)
- how to avoid scammers? (plenty of)
- so many girls chase me in pubs and disco! It's because I am handsome. (No Money No Honey)
- how to get a BJ? (don't laugh, but it is not obvious: a local girl seldom does it)
- how to get anal? (extremely difficult or almost impossible; it's not part of the local culture)
- I don't know where to go, but there is a NED (Night Entertainment District) (Yes, that's where all bule go: you'll take a while, but you will learn the hard way)
- ok I take the easy way, I book a girl from brothel/KTV: what is the probability she will be a deadfish in bed asking extra tips for anything? (high)
- I am handsome. I go and all girls will jump on me (optimism can do a lot, but nowadays there is a LOT of young handsome guys populating the nights of Batam)
- I like disco! I can't wait to go (Indo disco is NOT like in USA or Europe: first time might be shocking)
- is it easy to take girls from disco back to my room? (yes, it's also easy to get robbered)
- ok then I will just do what I read in BP's reports! (good luck )
Thanks for the Batam Reports
Hi Black Page.
It was my pleasure to read your reports. I was in Singapore twice and didn't know I'm so close.
Thanks a lot!
I can completely relate to the sentence and trust me every minute wasted is counted back and regretted at once back home.
Amazing set of FRs Black Page. Your reports are going to be a benchmark and reference guide for anyone visiting Batam in the near future. Didn't think there was so much waiting to be enjoyed just 45 minute from singapore. Unfortunately I am already booked for PP next month with barely 2 nights in a singapore but am definately going to plan a visit to Batam on the next trip.