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  1. #1114

    Me thankum BP Wise Chief

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    BP says worth for him, but not for everyone.
    BP hopes many leave disappointed. The land is not easy grass for buffalos.
    BP says: Batam is not Geylang.
    But anymore "braves" want to give an opinion.

    Or should I just go somewhere else to smokem' peace pipe or erect teepee?

  2. #1113
    Quote Originally Posted by NewImage  [View Original Post]
    Some say yes some say don't bother.
    Anyone put me straight: Is batam worth visiting?
    Black page would say yes definitely but others stories paint a different picture.
    Confused!
    BP says worth for him, but not for everyone.
    BP hopes many leave disappointed. The land is not easy grass for buffalos.
    BP says: Batam is not Geylang.

  3. #1112

    Help please re viability of batam

    Some say yes some say don't bother.

    Anyone put me straight: Is batam worth visiting?

    Black page would say yes definitely but others stories paint a different picture.

    Confused!

  4. #1111
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    You should have told her they were yours and you wear ladies panties as a kink.
    It looks like you don't imagine my size (not the belly).

  5. #1110
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    Drama at the end, when she went to bathroom and found in shower under a towel a PAIR OF PANTIES of unknown origin.
    You should have told her they were yours and you wear ladies panties as a kink.

  6. #1109

    Panties

    One of my girlfriends just left.

    Before, she even came to my room, knocked but I was not there. Lots of messages on Wechat "I hate you" "I don't want to see you anymore" "You are in room but you don't open". Shit it's a problem once a superglue knows the room number.

    She insisted so much that I went back. One hour massage, then "I eat you but no fuck ok?" Then bonk bonk but much effort needed like virgin.

    Drama at the end, when she went to bathroom and found in shower under a towel a PAIR OF PANTIES of unknown origin.
    Really I have no idea who forgot them in my bathroom and when, yesterday night or the night before.
    First time this happens to me. She was really angry with me. I made her stop complaining saying the magic work "SOPING" (a.k.a. "shopping"). A visit to Nagoya Hill helped to forget the incident.

    (But whose are those panties??)

  7. #1108
    Quote Originally Posted by JustABule  [View Original Post]
    Not wanting to sound pathetic (but I guess I do), but I could not even score with an Indonesian girl if my life depended on it. I never manage to close the deal and mostly I don't even get the chance to talk to them because they are totally not into me. I often go to clubs but I never scored in a club in Jakarta nor in Bandung.

    Scoring regular (with a normal job) girls is totally out of the question for me because they must be sexually interested in you, they must be attracted to you otherwise they would not come. Even scoring with freelancers on the lookout for money proves impossible because the girls that I fancy are youngish and slim and they have options. So even if they are looking for money, they still like to receive that money from a guy they are at least abit attracted to.

    I do speak fluent Bahasa so that should be a big advantage but if you can't pull, all the Bahasa Indonesia in the world will not help you to get laid, that at least is my honest experience. My experience is that the girls just don't want me / are not interested in me.

    My criteria are not super high, the only criterium I have is that she should be not fat.

    The more I fail (and I do only fail) the worse it actually gets and the harder it becomes for me to try to talk to girls, I think they sense my discomfort / low confidence / nervousness etc and it makes them unattracted.

    Another problem is my looks, everybody can say what he wants but Indo girls DO NOT see every bule as handsome, simply because he is a bule. they can differentiate between handsome and not handsome, even though what's handsome in the eyes of Indo girls might not be handsome in the eyes of western people.

    I have a babyface (look rather young) and many girls have told me that my babyface is the problem for them so I think this is part of my problem. I'm a bule but it does not give me any edge, i often go with Indonesian friends to clubs and in the end of the night the Indo guys go home with the girls and i go home alone (and i even paid the bottles). For me this is totally not a problem because i make enough money to buy 10 bottles every night in clubs but it surely naggs me.

    But of course low confidence, and an aura of unhappyness with myself and my life in Indonesia is probably the main reason I don't / can't pull any girls from regular venues.

    Blackpage, I do think you look good for Indo girls, otherwise you could not consistently pull gorgeous NON WORKING GIRLS, you also probably have good style (good dressing style is very important) and a very good communication skill with the girls, and you are of course totally happy which also helps tremendously.
    I'm 52 baby face bule and I've meet lovely indo girls under 25, the last one is 21 very pretty and smart and don't want young boy (crazyyyy). Ok they says I'm handsome, gallbladder BTW, but I've always the feeling they like us because we take care of them. They like also all the chest hair we all have, LOL.

  8. #1107
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    The "price structure" may apply only in massage places, booking joints, etc. In those places (New Berry, Permata Indah, Indah2, MM, Happy8, Bunga, etc. Etc.) the girls can be "booked" (this term means from afternoon to next morning, like GF or like a deadfish in your bed depending on you and her, sometimes unlimited number of fucks sometimes max 3 then girl leaves, sometimes girl leaves anyway because tired of you) for a the price which varies from 600 k to nearly 2 M depending on the girl and on the period of the year (now CNY: all prices up +50%.

    With FLs, it really depends on the girl and on how attractive she finds you. If she does not like you, she might not go with you even for 3 M. In discos, the standard fee for a ST is 500 k, but "higher class" girls will ask you1 M or 1. 5 M or even more.

    If you meet the girl in a pub, she does it for her pleasure and for money. No way you could move her for less than 1 M.
    Thankyou to Black page. The man's a walking encyclopedia. Sorry but a few more Q's - (I have been writing reports from manila & KL so trying to do my bit and also read back 2 years of posts).

    Black page interpretation and Just a bule interpretation seem very different. Is it just a case of confidence? Not wanting to put JAB down but why are 2 reports so different?

    I prefer Beach club setup. Easy, straight forward, walk up and start negotiating. Is it like this in the discos / nightclubs?

    Best hotels near action seem to be Harmoni & Formosa. Any other options near action of equal standard.

    I know its a length of string but if going on to KL how long to stay at batam if got 3 weeks? I week enough? Is there much to do in the daytime? Beach, sites?

    All replies appreciated.

  9. #1106
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    You are wrong.

    I am in the second half of my life and I look totally average. My height is average. My build is average. I go to gym but I have some belly growing, since when I passed the '40s. Nobody would consider me either particularly handsome either particularly ugly in my country. I am one like many. Indeed, should I try to chase a university student in Europe, she would ignore me, at best. I don't want to be considered pathetic, so I abstain in my country, and I keep my testosterone for when I travel overseas.

    But, in Indonesia white men are considered very attractive. Age is not a problem. Actually it seems to add something. Girls prefer a middle-age gentleman rather than a silly young blonde 20yo guy. And, white men are also attractive for their wallet. I pay the girls who work, I give a tip to the girls who do not work but are in need, I give a gift to others. I behave as a gentleman, always.

    Most important: I report my successful episodes, but I mostly neglect to report my fails, which are many.
    Not wanting to sound pathetic (but I guess I do), but I could not even score with an Indonesian girl if my life depended on it. I never manage to close the deal and mostly I don't even get the chance to talk to them because they are totally not into me. I often go to clubs but I never scored in a club in Jakarta nor in Bandung.

    Scoring regular (with a normal job) girls is totally out of the question for me because they must be sexually interested in you, they must be attracted to you otherwise they would not come. Even scoring with freelancers on the lookout for money proves impossible because the girls that I fancy are youngish and slim and they have options. So even if they are looking for money, they still like to receive that money from a guy they are at least abit attracted to.

    I do speak fluent Bahasa so that should be a big advantage but if you can't pull, all the Bahasa Indonesia in the world will not help you to get laid, that at least is my honest experience. My experience is that the girls just don't want me / are not interested in me.

    My criteria are not super high, the only criterium I have is that she should be not fat.

    The more I fail (and I do only fail) the worse it actually gets and the harder it becomes for me to try to talk to girls, I think they sense my discomfort / low confidence / nervousness etc and it makes them unattracted.

    Another problem is my looks, everybody can say what he wants but Indo girls DO NOT see every bule as handsome, simply because he is a bule. they can differentiate between handsome and not handsome, even though what's handsome in the eyes of Indo girls might not be handsome in the eyes of western people.

    I have a babyface (look rather young) and many girls have told me that my babyface is the problem for them so I think this is part of my problem. I'm a bule but it does not give me any edge, i often go with Indonesian friends to clubs and in the end of the night the Indo guys go home with the girls and i go home alone (and i even paid the bottles). For me this is totally not a problem because i make enough money to buy 10 bottles every night in clubs but it surely naggs me.

    But of course low confidence, and an aura of unhappyness with myself and my life in Indonesia is probably the main reason I don't / can't pull any girls from regular venues.

    Blackpage, I do think you look good for Indo girls, otherwise you could not consistently pull gorgeous NON WORKING GIRLS, you also probably have good style (good dressing style is very important) and a very good communication skill with the girls, and you are of course totally happy which also helps tremendously.

  10. #1105
    Quote Originally Posted by JustABule  [View Original Post]
    BP I read your posts and they are increadible. I been 5 months in Indonesia and have shagged less girls then you do on an average day.

    How old are you? And how tall? I guess you must be a guys around mid 20's and goodlooking to be able to pull all this off.
    You are wrong.

    I am in the second half of my life and I look totally average. My height is average. My build is average. I go to gym but I have some belly growing, since when I passed the '40s. Nobody would consider me either particularly handsome either particularly ugly in my country. I am one like many. Indeed, should I try to chase a university student in Europe, she would ignore me, at best. I don't want to be considered pathetic, so I abstain in my country, and I keep my testosterone for when I travel overseas.

    But, in Indonesia white men are considered very attractive. Age is not a problem. Actually it seems to add something. Girls prefer a middle-age gentleman rather than a silly young blonde 20yo guy. And, white men are also attractive for their wallet. I pay the girls who work, I give a tip to the girls who do not work but are in need, I give a gift to others. I behave as a gentleman, always.

    Most important: I report my successful episodes, but I mostly neglect to report my fails, which are many.

  11. #1104

    Question

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    The "price structure" may apply only in massage places, booking joints, etc. In those places (New Berry, Permata Indah, Indah2, MM, Happy8, Bunga, etc. Etc.) the girls can be "booked" (this term means from afternoon to next morning, like GF or like a deadfish in your bed depending on you and her, sometimes unlimited number of fucks sometimes max 3 then girl leaves, sometimes girl leaves anyway because tired of you) for a the price which varies from 600 k to nearly 2 M depending on the girl and on the period of the year (now CNY: all prices up +50%.

    With FLs, it really depends on the girl and on how attractive she finds you. If she does not like you, she might not go with you even for 3 M. In discos, the standard fee for a ST is 500 k, but "higher class" girls will ask you1 M or 1. 5 M or even more.

    If you meet the girl in a pub, she does it for her pleasure and for money. No way you could move her for less than 1 M.
    BP I read your posts and they are increadible. I been 5 months in Indonesia and have shagged less girls then you do on an average day.

    How old are you? And how tall? I guess you must be a guys around mid 20's and goodlooking to be able to pull all this off.

  12. #1103
    Quote Originally Posted by NewImage  [View Original Post]
    Question. Seems like pricing structure is quite varied 500 to 1 mil. Any standard rate ST / LT (appears 500ST is standard? Why are some, incl Blackpage paying 1 mil + (just generous?
    The "price structure" may apply only in massage places, booking joints, etc. In those places (New Berry, Permata Indah, Indah2, MM, Happy8, Bunga, etc. Etc.) the girls can be "booked" (this term means from afternoon to next morning, like GF or like a deadfish in your bed depending on you and her, sometimes unlimited number of fucks sometimes max 3 then girl leaves, sometimes girl leaves anyway because tired of you) for a the price which varies from 600 k to nearly 2 M depending on the girl and on the period of the year (now CNY: all prices up +50%.

    With FLs, it really depends on the girl and on how attractive she finds you. If she does not like you, she might not go with you even for 3 M. In discos, the standard fee for a ST is 500 k, but "higher class" girls will ask you1 M or 1. 5 M or even more.

    If you meet the girl in a pub, she does it for her pleasure and for money. No way you could move her for less than 1 M.

  13. #1102

    A few Q's

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPage  [View Original Post]
    (Once again: notes written 2 weeks ago while I was in Batam)

    If you go to Santaria after midnight, until say 1:30am or so, you might still see a bule busy chatting on his phone connected to the wifi.
    I saw him 2-3 times last week, when I went there to drink something with one of my girls. He might be still there.

    He was very happy and surprised to see another bule, so he wanted to exchange some words. He stays in Sekupang. I guess he just took a ferry from Singapore then settled there for some days ("Yes nothing there, no nightlife at all!")

    At night he comes to Nagoya. To enjoy nightlife? NO. To eat and sit down busy on phone at Santaria.

    I asked how he comes and go, thinking he was spending a lot on taxi. NO. He moves back and forth by BiCYCLE. He showed me the bicycle parked among bikes at Santaria.
    He takes about 30-40 minutes on bicycle to go from Nagoya back to Sekupang. I was worried for him, bicycling at night without lights, but he showed me he has a portable flashlight. He looked very happy for his holidays.
    Have been RTFF. Contemplating Batam then off to Jakarta then to Cambodia.

    Question. Seems like pricing structure is quite varied 500 to 1 mil. Any standard rate ST / LT (appears 500ST is standard? Why are some, incl Blackpage paying 1 mil + (just generous?

    Question 2 - If I am going to Jak and then Camb. Should I just skip Batam? Plan at this stage: 6 nts Batam / 11 nts Jak definite / 7 nts Phnom Penn. Should plan be to spend more time in Camb. Siem Reap & Shinook?

    Found KL Viet girls more to my liking than Thai girls.

    Would appreciate wise counsel from Blackpage & NattyBumpo if possible gents.

  14. #1101

    Linking or attaching MP4

    Well, I wanted to attach the MP4 with the audio recording, but it seems impossible.

    ISG does not allow linking files from other web sites. I use upload or ***********, but it censors the link. Also, it does not allow to link files with MP4 extension and 390 KB.
    I wonder if I could link a dropbox, but I don't want to risk a penalty because I go against forum rules.

    Sorry guys, no moaning recorded.

  15. #1100

    Moaning ghost

    It just came back to my memory that in November 2014 I posted some funny notes on another Board (SB), mainly attended by Singaporeans, Malay and Indonesians, including an audio recording of someone who kept fucking like a rabbit in Formosa room 207 from 5:30 am onwards for hours with multiple turns. I was in the adjacent room on the other side of the wall and I could not sleep because of that.
    I made a search and I could not find it here. I hope I am not wrong and I am not posting twice the same story.
    I will copy here some excerpts from those notes. Even more than one year after that, it's still funny.

    24-Nov-2014

    I cannot sleep

    Who is fucking like rabbit in room 207 of Formosa Hotel RIGHT NOW 5. 30 am??
    I am at the other side of the wall and I cannot sleep!
    Moaning and moaning.
    Bro, if you are reading this NOW, please let me in. Can I knock the door? I am waiting.

    UPDATE 6am: still fucking there, still moaning, still I cannot sleep, still I am waiting to be admitted to help or give moral support

    25-Nov-2014

    Believe it or not, but in this very precise moment 19:49 there is still activity in 207. I am sure it's the same girl. I recognize the same style of moaning. There's high probability that it's still the same guy, although not 100% sure. If so, he's having quite a nice week in Batam.

    Original audio recording:
    ISG does not allow other URLs or MP4 files

    I still have that audio recording on my phone. Good memory of Batam.

    The funny thing is that someone commented on SB that the room could have been haunted and the moaning being supernatural.
    There are many superstitious in Singapore and Batam. They believe to ghosts and haunting. There is even people who reports a list of rooms to avoid in Batam hotels because of haunting.
    And some girls might knock 3 times before entering the room in hotel, to warn any ghost that people is coming and stay away.

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