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  1. #11327

    Quick Report

    After over a year, I found myself with a 3-day visit to Jakarta. Was meeting some business acquaintances and an old girlfriend, but the rest of the trip was for hitting up the craziness. I find myself in the very bizarre situation of having money to burn for once, so I dropped 10 juta at Golden Crown in Glodok Plaza (didn't even get laid, but I still had a great night / morning! If pretending you're a rockstar for a night is something that interests you, I don't think you can go wrong with Jakarta clubs.

    After resting all day, I hit up Classic Terminal 2 at about 10 pm on Wednesday night. Place was pretty rocking, with nude dancers on the stage and the requisite girls lining the walls. Even though I've been there several times, I forgot just how annoyingly pushy the shot girls and mamasans can be. Perhaps it's actually gotten worse with time, or my memory is tinged with rose-colored glasses. Either way, I was turned off by the (admittedly hot, but very drunk) young thing that quickly downed 3 shots (150 k) without even asking and then immediately asking for 100 k in cash. My protests in Bahasa Indonesia went unheard and it wasn't until I physically picked her off my lap and pointed for her to go away that she got the point. Being the sucker that I am, I still sent her away with 20 k and I apologize if this sullies the market! I hung out there until about midnight, even though there were no girls I was interested in banging.

    After that, I made my way up the fifth floor bar. Again, I've been there before, but always waaaay too late in the evening, so I thought I'd give it a look at a more respectable hour. I do like the setup more, with the higher ceiling and just seems to be a more comfortable space overall. Live band was decent, too. I found a table and ordered the four bottle Bali Hai special (189 k). By the time I had half poured my glass, the most wonderful body I have ever touched was on my lap. I thought this was a 'here we go again' situation, but she was hot enough that I was willing to give her a chance. At first, she just wanted beer -- I think this is a good tactic -- if a girl with a body like this has any game or charm at all, she'll be able to convince you to buy her a few shots in time. Did she ever succeed! Bought her nine shots (315 k), tipped her 100 k, bought cigarettes for her and her friends. My 'fee' for all of this was that I got to ply her succulent body with my meaty paws to my heart's content. Of course, she had to 'go home' at 1:30, so it was short-lived, but I still consider it a good time. We exchanged Line contact info and I'll definitely look her up again whenever I get back to Jakarta. If you're ever in Terminal 5, look for a 155 cm goddess named Evelin.

    I know this post doesn't offer too much in the way of new intel, but I was happy that an originally negative night turned out to be pretty decent. Thanks to all here who post info pointing the brotherhood in the right direction.

  2. #11326
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    I do find it interesting that 2 people know this girl by name. I can't recall the name of even one girl I have been with at Hotel Classic although I have been with many. They have over 100 girls working there. For 2 people to single one out, she must be special. I'll have to check her out. I won't take her to the back room because I don't like starfish, but I will take a photo of her and post it if I can (since you guys haven't shared).
    Hey Smoothy, or anyone else that been to Classic recent.

    Did you find Octer, curios what you think of her?

  3. #11325

    Rate going up

    Quote Originally Posted by LifeIsABeach  [View Original Post]
    I paid 700 max for LT from Top Gun just a year ago. What's driving the prices up? Is Classic still the same low price?
    To LifeIsABeach.

    Yes rate have gone up a lot the last 10 yr price is double now maybe because most disco and club cater to foreigner, the low end brothel, classic and hotel travel do mostly local business rate only gone up 30 % the last 10 yr you also have to look at the exchange rate the USD and Euro are much stronger now even one Juta for LT still a bargain.

    Fast Eddie 48.

  4. #11324

    Seeking arrangements

    Anyone had any success using this site in Jakarta?

    I usually like to find a keeper for my week in Jakarta, useful for shopping, sharing meals, warming the bed. Someone that works during the day and likes a five star hotel rather than shared room they live in.

    A richer experience than scooping one out of CJ's fucking them then fucking them off.

  5. #11323

    X2

    I hadn't been to X2 in years, but woke up quite late last night and since most places were already closed, I decided to go to X2. I was likely the oldest guy in the place, but surprisingly had no problem at all meeting girls there and taking a very nice one home. I had been sticking to places like CJs and BATS for free lancers, but X2 appears to be quite a good option these days. Previously, I had only been there with my "serious" girlfriend so I didn't realize it was so easy to pick up girls there.

  6. #11322
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    I am an eternal optimist when it comes to searching for opportunities. The We Chat app has been close to a complete failure for me as far as "escort" girls who come to my place expressively for sex. I've only had a couple of good encounters out of many (but I continue trying. Haha). However, today I told the place I just wanted a massage. And I truly did just want a massage. However, the girl who showed up was stunning. The second she arrived, I was going to do whatever necessary to have that session finish with sex. I".
    In WeChat is the "discover" option, I assume that is how you search for massage places?

    Haven't used that function before.

  7. #11321
    I am an eternal optimist when it comes to searching for opportunities. The We Chat app has been close to a complete failure for me as far as "escort" girls who come to my place expressively for sex. I've only had a couple of good encounters out of many (but I continue trying. Haha). However, today I told the place I just wanted a massage. And I truly did just want a massage. However, the girl who showed up was stunning. The second she arrived, I was going to do whatever necessary to have that session finish with sex. It cost me a million rupiah by the time it was said and done, but this chick was awesome. I've had far more luck with the girls who claim they are coming to give a massage and no sex than the ones who are coming with a sex guarantee up front. Sure, sometimes the girl is ugly and I don't ask for sex. But about half of the time, they send a girl who is nice looking to do that "no sex" massage. And only once has the girl refused sex. Just my experience, maybe others have different experiences with that app. I normally use it when I'm sitting at home bored and no bars are open yet. Most times I do ask to see the photos of the girls before choosing one even if it's "just for massage".

  8. #11320

    Rates

    Quote Originally Posted by KoperenKlaas  [View Original Post]
    I noticed that too on my last visit. Girls in Top Gun don't hesitate to demand 1 Juta for ST and take quite some haggling to go down to sensible rates.
    I paid 700 max for LT from Top Gun just a year ago. What's driving the prices up? Is Classic still the same low price?

  9. #11319
    Quote Originally Posted by KoperenKlaas  [View Original Post]
    I noticed that too on my last visit. Girls in Top Gun don't hesitate to demand 1 Juta for ST and take quite some haggling to go down to sensible rates.
    I find that after they come with you once, you can get their price down after that outside the CJs environment. Some CJs girls I take the first time for 1. 5 or even 2 million, will gladly come to my place other days for 1 million. I have one favorite who I have had come to my place many times now for 1 million. Recently she came over (no negotation of price) and I had planned to give her 1 million. However, rather than grab a few drinks at the local quiet pub or at my place like we normally do, I decided to bring her with me to CJs to watch the band and hang out for a while before returning home to shag. It was a Monday and I had been to CJs the previous Monday and it was a buyer's market for guys, with very few guys and lots of girls. So I felt it pretty safe to go there that Monday. However, when we got there, it was crowded and a complete sausage fest that night and my girl was by far the best looking girl in the place. On our way in, every guy's head turned as she walked by. We went to the back bar area and she obviously realized she was going to easily be able to get big money that night if she wanted to leave me and find a different client for the night. When the band played the song "Ya baby, I'm worth it", she made the comment that she was worth 2 million tonight. She stuck with me though, even though I wouldn't commit to giving her 2 million. I didn't end up giving her 2 million, but I did give her more than a million. It's the last time I will bring her to CJs.

  10. #11318
    Quote Originally Posted by KoperenKlaas  [View Original Post]
    I noticed that too on my last visit. Girls in Top Gun don't hesitate to demand 1 Juta for ST and take quite some haggling to go down to sensible rates.
    I'm interested in what is driving the price increases. On the Demand side Oil and Gas and Mining expat numbers have tanked and I'm not aware of any other industries that have provided a large influx of cashed up foreigners.

    On the Supply side, more and more girls are making their way to the big city for jobs and / or education.

    I realize it was a long time ago, but during the Suharto exit / CRISMON years many expats left and rates could be bargained down to a half or third of the normal. Now it should be a buyers market but prices are going up.

    Any ideas?

  11. #11317

    Girl rates

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    <SNIP>

    On another note, I went to CJs Wednesday night and the talent level was off the hook. Absolutely awesome selection. I can't say that I've seen a better crop of girls in one bar at any point in my 20 years in Jakarta. But it's a crime how much money these girls want these days. And guys must be paying it because the girls stand firm asking for 2 million. Crazy.
    I noticed that too on my last visit. Girls in Top Gun don't hesitate to demand 1 Juta for ST and take quite some haggling to go down to sensible rates.

  12. #11316
    Quote Originally Posted by Vrsabien  [View Original Post]
    OK true that, but what should you tip a classic girl who starfishes you?
    Nothing. A tip is optional. In my opinion, it's better to give no tip than a small tip they regard as insufficient.

    Personally, I'd give a 50 k tip if I managed to give her a long, hard pounding while she starfished, she didn't make any turnoff moves, and didn't press too hard for a tip. Maybe 100 k if the service was actually good and affectionate, but this has yet to happen to me at either Classic or Travel.

    Honestly, I don't care what locals do, we Bule will always be treated differently anyway.

  13. #11315
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    I'll have to check her out. I won't take her to the back room because I don't like starfish, but I will take a photo of her and post it if I can (since you guys haven't shared)..
    I didn't know you could take photos in there but still its pretty dark.

    When you walk in she sits in the group on the right at the far wall.

    Three masmans knew who I was talking about when I said her name and each described her features to me as "short, slim, big chest".

    So Okta means October, then my friend good luck on your "Hunt for Red Octa."

  14. #11314
    Quote Originally Posted by Vrsabien  [View Original Post]
    So yeah, has anyone taken Okta before, what did you tip her or what have you tipped Classic girls before?
    I have no idea who Okta is, but all the girls there will be expecting the same tip. They normally all get 100 k as the routine tip amount (even from the locals).

    Most of my Indonesian friends tell me they tip the girl 100 k no matter what, and if they didn't like them, they just don't repeat.

    However, here is how I tip those girls:

    1) If they insist on my wearing a condom for the BJ. NO TIP AT ALL (and likely I will immediately dress, walk out and complain to the mamasan to get a change of girl.).

    2) If they show little to no affection or passion and just go through the motions (starfish) - NO TIP AT ALL or possibly 50 k depending if they at least provided me with some pleasure.

    3) If they provide a good BJ and are some fun in bed and a good shag - 100 K.

    4) If they provide outstanding service such as top notch BJ, giving my ass a good rimming, allowing anal, and allowing me to take photos and / or video, I may tip up to 300 k (happened once in over 100 visits there)

    50 K tip to the girl after shagging her hard for a half hour will likely be considered an insult to the girl. The girls I do not tip at least 100 k are girls I would NEVER repeat. From my experience, Category 2 as listed above is the average Hotel Classic service.

    I do find it interesting that 2 people know this girl by name. I can't recall the name of even one girl I have been with at Hotel Classic although I have been with many. They have over 100 girls working there. For 2 people to single one out, she must be special. I'll have to check her out. I won't take her to the back room because I don't like starfish, but I will take a photo of her and post it if I can (since you guys haven't shared).

    On a side note, Okta is a very popular Indonesian name. If it's her real name, it likely means she was born in October. For some reason, Indonesians like to name their daughters various versions of Okta when their daughter is born in October. Oktavia, Oktaviani, Oktaviana, Oktania, Oktaria, Oktasari, Oktavita, Oktavitasari, etc.

  15. #11313
    Quote Originally Posted by SteelBaton  [View Original Post]
    I think that's her spot when she wants to be working, but she's not there other times. There are at least half a dozen mamas around that whole place, but you got to know where to look at what time of day. Seems like it's a decent afternoon place.
    How did she show you the girls available, photo on phone?

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