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  1. #8782
    Well finally made it down to both Classic and Travel. IMHO both are comparable to a BBS experience in China. However, that's not bad as its only like $30 versus $25 to $50 in Southern China. I really like.

    The six girl topless show in Classic (2nd Fl) with other topless ladies walking around give a near lap dance experience for a shot fee. I think both places have more than enough good looking women to make

    anyone happy; however, who can tell in Travel based on the extremely dark lighting. Both were a covered blow job experience. Prior to going over to Classic I first went to M Star Spa in my area. That place.

    had the worse homely line up I've seen in a long time. Needless to say I bolted out of there quick. On my second day I had gone over to Kimochi near Orchardz J. Great oily and soapy rubs followed by a long

    BBBJ and ending a full service finish. 590 k total price. Its funny both professional massage places I went to offered uncovered bjs.

    I know some people think Orchardz J is in a dump location. But I've had to go to San Fernando, Pampanga, PI for 20 straight years and its no different. Nor worse than the back alleys of CP which I walk. This
    location works for me and in fact I took a train down to Mangga Besar for Travel. I can walk over to Mangga Dua Square but can't recommend anyone else doing it. Based on the established price points

    Jakarta looks very favorable compared to South China. Oh yes, I've looking for a thin super heavy chested women compared to Bintang in Classic (not there when I went) partly for the benefit of someone

    coming over next month. I've yet to find someone memorable.

    Lastly, what is the difference between second floor Classic and the fifth floor.

  2. #8781
    Well finally made it down to Travel and Classic both IMHO is comparable to a BBS experience in China but that's ok as its only like $30 versus $25 to $50 in Southern China. I really like the six girl topless show. (2 fl) with other topless ladies selling lap dances for a shot fee at Classic. I think both have enough good looking women but who can tell in Travel based on the extremely dark lighting. Both places were a

    covered BJ experience. Prior to going to Classic I had dropped by M Star Spa in Mangga Dua but saw the most homely line up. Needless to say I bolted out of there fast. I did get a long oil and soapy rub in the Kimochi near my area. Funny the two places which gave long professional rubs both gave BBBJs.

    I really like the central location of Orchardz Jayarta and in fact took a train down to Mangga Bessar for Travel. Some people may think Orchardz is in a dump area; however, I've had to go to San Fernando, Pampanga, PI for 20 straight years (non mongering reasons) and its no different and the back alleys of CP which I walk is no better. I can walk over to Mangga Dua Square but can't recommend anyone else

    doing it. Oh yes, I've been looking for a thin very heavy chested women partly somewhat for the benefit of someone coming over next month. I've yet to find anyone memorable.

    So far given the various price points Jakarta looks very favorable compared to South China. Lastly, what is the difference between 2nd floor Classic versus the 5th floor?

  3. #8780
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  4. #8779

    To Alexis from Airport Hotels

    Late at night, Alexis is surprisingly close to Soukarno Hata: 10 minutes.

    Indonesians of the 7th floor looked bored, no eye contact and a sexy one even refused to go with a bule. Good choices in the Vietnamese contingent and I decided to splurge. I was the first ever western customer of Sunny from Hanoi. After the pool, the shower together started full of promises: BJ and good cleaning of my bum. Good kissing, DATY, very long BBBJ, then 69, then BBBJ again. Sunny admitted it was the first time ever she came with DATY.

  5. #8778

    First Day in Jakarta

    Well back after several years with reduced options in Southern China a strong motive. Currently staying at Orchardz Jayakarta as I think its in a good central location. In fact I headed to the spa located in a back

    building where I saw several hot hostesses dressed in pink. But they were there just to tease me. I soon found out they weren't service providers. I was a bit disappointed when I soon found out my assigned girl was a big step down but still decent looking who more or less met my requirements except for a heavy chest. It was 650,000 full service which included a very long decent oily massage followed by prolong body rubbing. Not quite down and dirty but good enough. Now on to the other places I've been reading about since I knew I had to find additional options instead of mainly CP.

  6. #8777
    Quote Originally Posted by HardHatMate  [View Original Post]
    Oh Yeh. That's the other question, a little more direct too.

    Another tough one to answer and get right. Either way you answer its a difficult situ to be in.
    Well I always say with badoo girls that I used to play around a lot but that I am getting tired of it. Then I tell that now fun is still ok but that if it becomes serious it is fine too. Seems to work all the time. Gives them a challenge to convince me I guess.

  7. #8776

    Natty

    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    I like to say something romantic and corny like, "I have been with many girls, but I haven't found the right girl yet. " That works pretty well. Never put a number on it because it will never be right.
    Clear some of your old PMs from your inbox. I sent you another msg but you are full.

    Random photo.
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  8. #8775
    Quote Originally Posted by FreebieFan  [View Original Post]
    The other thing is that theres a fairly endless supply within your target audience and we all like / need / want some rotation along the way.
    Isn't that the truth? They keep changing but we remain the same.

    The crazy young party things are now the career girls, a bit disillusioned with the scene and looking for a wiser, older man for advice and some slow loving. The career girls are now bored housewives frustrated with their dull lives out in the burbs, the yummy mummies are now divorced cougars out to rediscover the joys of life again while their daughters are now old enough to be out hitting the party scene, and so the wheel turns.

    Life in Jakarta, it really doesn't get any better than this.

  9. #8774
    Quote Originally Posted by MasterDiverII  [View Original Post]

    Me too mate, I'm older than her mother. Fortunately that was never the idea.

    MD II.
    Hmmm, now why does that put a thought in my head about a particular item on my bucket list? Actually truth be told I achieved it a few months back, mom was my own age but in a lot better shape, the daughter took the pictures.

    Oh dear, I've been living in this town waaaaay too long, I need to get back to the real world.

  10. #8773
    Quote Originally Posted by Hilo77  [View Original Post]
    We appear to have a very similar background and modus operandi. I actually explicitly put on my Tinder profile that I'm not looking for anyone serious as I am already well-got and have no intention of changing my status, furthermore I've posted a nice clear picture of myself; a bap-faced bule who won't see his 45th birthday again. Result? Ping! Ping! Ping!
    I use the same approach, it works a treat. One slight tweak, my picture is not actually of me, but a very similar looking guy I found through google images. The intent is not to make me look better, in fact I deliberately picked a guy that is fatter and older than me. No women have never noticed (or at least commented on) the differences and if my significant other is cruising the dating sites looking for me I cannot be found! A stage name and well rehearsed cover story helps too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilo77
    Third profile; slightly controversial here but it's only my personal choice. Key to me is time, it's limited for me. I want one date to lay the essential groundwork (LEG), that's a chat and coffee in some nice mall. After that I want to be bouncing the head-board in the next hook-up. If I have to do more than that then I've lucked out. In the first date I get all the LEG work done so reading the profile beforehand is essential. I don't want a bored rich girl, I'm not saying I won't score, the probability is that I will but it will be too much time and effort. I'm at a stage in my life where I don't need challenges anymore. I remember dating a lovely Chinese divorcee who I met in Grand Indonesia mall for coffee regularly and who spent the entire afternoons telling me how sick she was of married men who played around, and how she'd never go for that. I took her at her word eventually and quietly dropped her, only to have her contact me a year later asking me why we never made love back then. I've no time for all that.
    Time is also of the essence for me, once I am on the ground in whatever country. I have had reasonable success getting through the "first date" step remotely by using some sort of instant messenger, chat politely for awhile and gradually bringing the conversation around to the task at hand. Some drop off at this point, but others have similar motives we do which allows us to go straight to head board banging on the first in person meeting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilo77
    So I'm leaving out rich girls, girls that express their love for Jesus (the come-to-Jesus lot are harder to convince than the head-scarf wearers, I don't need the hassle)
    I had my first head scarf wearing experience in the provinces recently, this has been a target market I have seriously overlooked. Needs much more investigation on my part.

    Quote Originally Posted by MDII
    They are out there Smoothy. I remember one who did the lot: anal, rimming, and bisexual to boot. Cost of a threesome was two Whopper meals from BK for the girls. She didn't need the money, her mum promised her a Mini Cooper if she got engaged to someone she approved of (this was while she was still in College).
    Perhaps not surprisingly I decided to go with the freebie last night. While we did not get around to rimming we did make a video of me blowing my load all over her face. For round 2 she wanted me to video her taking it in the ass, so of course I obliged. Then after wake up sex this morning she started telling me how tired she was and how long it had been since she had a holiday and casually dropped into conversation how I should buy her an airline ticket to a foreign country. WTF. So much for that freebie, she is crossed off the list now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterDiverII  [View Original Post]


    That was when you were in my neck of the woods - where are you now Freebie?




    MD II.
    In that very large country much further north. The large one with a red flag, pandas and dumplings and some very fair maidens.

  12. #8771
    Quote Originally Posted by NattyBumpo  [View Original Post]
    I am considering the Hotel Alila Jakarta, the Morrissey Hotel, the Grand Mercure Jakarta Harmoni, and possibly the Borobudur Hotel for next time. They are all reasonably priced hotels, have good reviews on Trip Advisor, have outdoor swimming pools, and most importantly are GF.

    Update:

    I also found a low no penalty if cancelled rate with Booking DOT Com at the Morrissey Hotel, so it looks like I am all set.

    I don't think there is anything more positive I can say about Jakarta than that I am returning and staying longer than the first visit. To me, Jakarta was like discovering an unknown Asian planet inhabited by beautiful, sexy and charming girls. I found Jakarta girls as pretty as BKK girls and as friendly as Manila girls. And that is saying quite a lot.
    Welcome to the club. I'm a confirmed Jakarta addict. I've been here over 100 times and still feel like I'm scratching the surface. I wish I'd discovered this place in my mid twenties, not my late thirties. As Traveler said, you will enjoy Morrisey (one of my favourite places) as it's pretty convenient in many respects. I always find a need to keep large bottles of water and juice in my room and appreciate the small fridge that's there instead of a mini bar. The only thing is that they don't have taxis waiting there, although there doesn't seem to be much wasted time waiting as the road is frequented by taxis that they'll hail for you. They will target bluebirds unless you tell them otherwise. I normally tell them, bluebird, express, gamya or taxiku are fine. There's also plenty of food and potential meeting locations nearby if you're going to get together with a date. The rooms are minimalist in design but very functional. The shower area is big enough for two. All hotels short of Syariah hotels are girl friendly but take note that you do need a card to get up the lift. Borubudor is a bit tired and I didn't like Alila (although it is closer to Alexis and Malioboro). I haven't stayed at Mecure before.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilo77  [View Original Post]
    We appear to have a very similar background and modus operandi. I actually explicitly put on my Tinder profile that I'm not looking for anyone serious as I am already well-got and have no intention of changing my status, furthermore I've posted a nice clear picture of myself; a bap-faced bule who won't see his 45th birthday again. Result? Ping! Ping! Ping!

    I mean WTF? Are Indonesian women so pee-ed off with being jerked around by phonies and playboys that they're now targeting the honest-to-God, decent, wholesome married dudes (who are in fact phonies and playboys pretending to be honest-to, oh forget about it, my head's beginning to hurt following all this stuff).

    So I'm leaving out rich girls, girls that express their love for Jesus (the come-to-Jesus lot are harder to convince than the head-scarf wearers, I don't need the hassle), P4 P girls, party animals etc. What am I left with? The medium hanging fruit. The big fat middle of the bell curve. The twenty-something girl, living in a kos-kosan in town, or with her family in Depok, she's got a good job in the city but is bored with her hum-drum life of work, home, work, home, she's had at least two romances that have gone wrong and is now resigned to just having an uncomplicated relationship with a reasonably respectable guy who treats her well, buys her a few nice things, takes her to good bars and restaurants and bangs the hell out of her every other Tuesday afternoon just to ease the boredom.

    That's my way of doing it, it won't appeal to everyone but I put it out there for what it's worth.
    Mate, we do indeed have a similar MO with perhaps some subtle differences. Perhaps my age range is slightly broader, but only slightly. I will go for the party type if I'm in the mood, but I do prefer the lunch, coffee and dinner type. I agree with banging the headboard by the second date but have had a surprising amount of success on the first (especially since I'm clearly not a bule). You're right that they're sick of the BS and appreciate something that's straightforward and "honest" for a change. Perhaps we'll meet someday and exchange notes.

    Quote Originally Posted by FreebieFan  [View Original Post]
    That was exactly my MO when I lived in a neighbouring country to the north. Its truly a workable way of doing things and its really easy to successful within the parameters you so eloquently state. The other thing is that theres a fairly endless supply within your target audience and we all like / need / want some rotation along the way.
    That was when you were in my neck of the woods - where are you now Freebie?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    Unfortunately, that would have disqualified me.
    Me too mate, I'm older than her mother. Fortunately that was never the idea.

    MD II.

  13. #8770
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilo77  [View Original Post]
    We appear to have a very similar background and modus operandi. I actually explicitly put on my Tinder profile that I'm not looking for anyone serious as I am already well-got and have no intention of changing my status, furthermore I've posted a nice clear picture of myself; a bap-faced bule who won't see his 45th birthday again. Result? Ping! Ping! Ping!

    I mean WTF? Are Indonesian women so pee-ed off with being jerked around by phonies and playboys that they're now targeting the honest-to-God, decent, wholesome married dudes (who are in fact phonies and playboys pretending to be honest-to, oh forget about it, my head's beginning to hurt following all this stuff).

    Anyway for those who are interested and are in my situation here's what I look for on the online sites, if you've different tastes or have more time, good for you, go your own way this is how I work it and if it's of use to anyone then knock yourself out.

    First of all the photo; number one importance, and the more the merrier. She has to be a looker, not stunning but in good shape and kinda respectable looking. For me tattoos are out as that means P4 P (yeah I know I'm a tattoo-phobic bigot, so shoot me) if I want that I'll look elsewhere. Next no air-brushed studio photos, it's amazing how many of them are posted, it's like a neon-sign saying "I'm so ugly I had to pay someone to photo-shop my appearance". Next the travel photos, no problem with Bali or Singapore, but too many pictures of her in Holland or the US tells me she's wise to the BS (although the very fact she's on Tagged, DIA or Tinder tells you she struck out there, so it could be fun playing with her mind). Safest option is the nice clear full-length shot of her at work or the mall. Selfies taken in the back of the car wearing sun-glasses tell me nothing other than she's a typical Indonesian woman.

    Next age; simple 25-35. Why the arbitrary upper limit? Well I have a perfectly beautiful Indonesian woman of 36 (give or take, I've never got a direct answer to that question yet) at home I can have for free so why would I bother hunting it outdoors? The lower limit? This all comes down to time, which I'll come back to, there's plenty of 18-25's out there, but let's face it they're going to want to party, stay out late, yadda-yadda, I haven't the time or energy for that so I can't be bothered. The women in my age range are past the party phase, they've got a decent job, they've been messed around in love at least twice and they've had enough of the scene and are looking for a "nice" guy who's got himself a good job and is settled.

    Third profile; slightly controversial here but it's only my personal choice. Key to me is time, it's limited for me. I want one date to lay the essential groundwork (LEG), that's a chat and coffee in some nice mall. After that I want to be bouncing the head-board in the next hook-up. If I have to do more than that then I've lucked out. In the first date I get all the LEG work done so reading the profile beforehand is essential. I don't want a bored rich girl, I'm not saying I won't score, the probability is that I will but it will be too much time and effort. I'm at a stage in my life where I don't need challenges anymore. I remember dating a lovely Chinese divorcee who I met in Grand Indonesia mall for coffee regularly and who spent the entire afternoons telling me how sick she was of married men who played around, and how she'd never go for that. I took her at her word eventually and quietly dropped her, only to have her contact me a year later asking me why we never made love back then. I've no time for all that.

    So I'm leaving out rich girls, girls that express their love for Jesus (the come-to-Jesus lot are harder to convince than the head-scarf wearers, I don't need the hassle), P4 P girls, party animals etc. What am I left with? The medium hanging fruit. The big fat middle of the bell curve. The twenty-something girl, living in a kos-kosan in town, or with her family in Depok, she's got a good job in the city but is bored with her hum-drum life of work, home, work, home, she's had at least two romances that have gone wrong and is now resigned to just having an uncomplicated relationship with a reasonably respectable guy who treats her well, buys her a few nice things, takes her to good bars and restaurants and bangs the hell out of her every other Tuesday afternoon just to ease the boredom.

    That's my way of doing it, it won't appeal to everyone but I put it out there for what it's worth.
    That was exactly my MO when I lived in a neighbouring country to the north. Its truly a workable way of doing things and its really easy to successful within the parameters you so eloquently state. The other thing is that theres a fairly endless supply within your target audience and we all like / need / want some rotation along the way.

  14. #8769
    Natty. I've really enjoyed reading your recent posts.

    Well done, and thanks for taking the time.

    Styk.

  15. #8768

    Online dating

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterDiverII  [View Original Post]
    I make it pretty clear on the dating sites that I'm married but still rather naughty. This clears up any likelihood of ending up in a serious relationship. In spite of that, I still have had a few who wanted something more serious (some even offering to be a second wife. I am a Muslim). I always make it clear that that is not an option for me (although it is sometimes a great strain saying no).
    MD II.
    We appear to have a very similar background and modus operandi. I actually explicitly put on my Tinder profile that I'm not looking for anyone serious as I am already well-got and have no intention of changing my status, furthermore I've posted a nice clear picture of myself; a bap-faced bule who won't see his 45th birthday again. Result? Ping! Ping! Ping!

    I mean WTF? Are Indonesian women so pee-ed off with being jerked around by phonies and playboys that they're now targeting the honest-to-God, decent, wholesome married dudes (who are in fact phonies and playboys pretending to be honest-to, oh forget about it, my head's beginning to hurt following all this stuff).

    Anyway for those who are interested and are in my situation here's what I look for on the online sites, if you've different tastes or have more time, good for you, go your own way this is how I work it and if it's of use to anyone then knock yourself out.

    First of all the photo; number one importance, and the more the merrier. She has to be a looker, not stunning but in good shape and kinda respectable looking. For me tattoos are out as that means P4 P (yeah I know I'm a tattoo-phobic bigot, so shoot me) if I want that I'll look elsewhere. Next no air-brushed studio photos, it's amazing how many of them are posted, it's like a neon-sign saying "I'm so ugly I had to pay someone to photo-shop my appearance". Next the travel photos, no problem with Bali or Singapore, but too many pictures of her in Holland or the US tells me she's wise to the BS (although the very fact she's on Tagged, DIA or Tinder tells you she struck out there, so it could be fun playing with her mind). Safest option is the nice clear full-length shot of her at work or the mall. Selfies taken in the back of the car wearing sun-glasses tell me nothing other than she's a typical Indonesian woman.

    Next age; simple 25-35. Why the arbitrary upper limit? Well I have a perfectly beautiful Indonesian woman of 36 (give or take, I've never got a direct answer to that question yet) at home I can have for free so why would I bother hunting it outdoors? The lower limit? This all comes down to time, which I'll come back to, there's plenty of 18-25's out there, but let's face it they're going to want to party, stay out late, yadda-yadda, I haven't the time or energy for that so I can't be bothered. The women in my age range are past the party phase, they've got a decent job, they've been messed around in love at least twice and they've had enough of the scene and are looking for a "nice" guy who's got himself a good job and is settled.

    Third profile; slightly controversial here but it's only my personal choice. Key to me is time, it's limited for me. I want one date to lay the essential groundwork (LEG), that's a chat and coffee in some nice mall. After that I want to be bouncing the head-board in the next hook-up. If I have to do more than that then I've lucked out. In the first date I get all the LEG work done so reading the profile beforehand is essential. I don't want a bored rich girl, I'm not saying I won't score, the probability is that I will but it will be too much time and effort. I'm at a stage in my life where I don't need challenges anymore. I remember dating a lovely Chinese divorcee who I met in Grand Indonesia mall for coffee regularly and who spent the entire afternoons telling me how sick she was of married men who played around, and how she'd never go for that. I took her at her word eventually and quietly dropped her, only to have her contact me a year later asking me why we never made love back then. I've no time for all that.

    So I'm leaving out rich girls, girls that express their love for Jesus (the come-to-Jesus lot are harder to convince than the head-scarf wearers, I don't need the hassle), P4 P girls, party animals etc. What am I left with? The medium hanging fruit. The big fat middle of the bell curve. The twenty-something girl, living in a kos-kosan in town, or with her family in Depok, she's got a good job in the city but is bored with her hum-drum life of work, home, work, home, she's had at least two romances that have gone wrong and is now resigned to just having an uncomplicated relationship with a reasonably respectable guy who treats her well, buys her a few nice things, takes her to good bars and restaurants and bangs the hell out of her every other Tuesday afternoon just to ease the boredom.

    That's my way of doing it, it won't appeal to everyone but I put it out there for what it's worth.

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