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  1. #11492
    Quote Originally Posted by PrisonBreak  [View Original Post]
    I don't understand you. You know what the normal price is and you can't get it? 300 k is already too much and half is going to the mamasan or the pimp but anyway it s 300 k max period.

    And you paid in advance and you wonder that the service sucks? Jesus rule number one everywhere in the world for FL never pay in advance!

    And of course you fall for this old trick that for more money she will deliver good service pfff She saw you coming my friend.

    And if I take a girl I make sure she has no baby then no surprise.

    If she lied since I didn't pay in advance then she s out with no money that s how you keep them with good service and not by splashing money like idiot.

    This kind of behaviour really pisses me off.

    If I have a girl I like I don't tip I take her number and I say I will have her back without the pimp less money for me more for her and they understand that.

    I guess you were lucky with the van girl but these are street FLs they should be 150 max like it used to be in kalijodo before some asshole ordered to destroy it.
    I guess we each have our own things that bother us- you worry about people overpaying, I get irritated at newbie jerks, who post basically no useful information, and jump on other people's posts.

    I've been coming to Jakarta way before you entered the hobby 3 years ago. In fact, I was one of the first to post about NPK in HCMC, 8-10 years ago- too bad you benefited from my posting.

    Thanks for reminding me why I don't post any useful information, or even read the boards much anymore.

    Not-so-friendly.

  2. #11491

    Exchange, Saigon and Jakarta

    I have a 1 year lease for a very nice apartment in HCMC. Roughly $1000 per month. I'm an American that works remotely. PM me if you want to do a condo / apt swap and swap info about women (1-2 months in Aug / Sep)

    Actually, I only have GF type intros in HCMC, BUT also a lot of good "black-box" ideas and places if you want to trade, even if home-swap is not in the offering. I'm late 40 ish, considered very attractive by SEA women, and I only say that to give you an idea of who I can introduce. Most of the women are in early to mid 30's, but if you're younger, some are in 20's. I also have freelence girls numbers who met my approval. So, maybe I could contact them and inro you if you do same for me in Jakarta.

    I'm looking to spend 1-2 months starting late July or Aug 1. I've been to Jakarta 2 times, but both were over 10 years ago.

    I've been a member here for over 12 years, so that says something.

    WL.

  3. #11490

    Vans

    Quote Originally Posted by ConquerorVal  [View Original Post]
    I guess I just want to restate the question of whether these vans are around only during Ramadan, or is this is an ongoing enterprise. Will be in Jakarta next weekend in the vicinity.
    I have seen those vans many times on Gajah Mada near the McD's and around Sarinah, usually around 4-6 girls in the back. Never tried as I don't go for this pay first system.

    I have run into a guy on Gajah Mada that works as a pimp, tried once and the girl he brought to the hotel was very attractive but not GF at all. I guess it's hit and miss with the street girls, paid 500 k for ST.

    That's why I go to the bar (usually My Bar) as I can get a fell for the vibe before I commit for the night.

  4. #11489
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    That's good information. Although in the last 20 years, I can honestly say that I don't think I have ever been with even one Christian Indonesian prostitute working in a brothel. I didn't know they existed in those type of places other than imports. I have been with quite a few Christian Indonesian non working girls and some free lance around town, but I have yet to meet one working in a brothel like at FM hotel. I guess they may exist, but the quantity would be very low indeed. The fact that the place is open at all on Idul Fitri is shocking. The owner of FM Hotel must have very high Government contacts to be able to pull that off. I can't imagine much that would be considered more of a sin in Islamic culture than having a *****house open on Idul Fitri day. Personally, I wouldn't go there on Idul Fitri even if it was open. Not because it's against my religion, but I would imagine the chances of being thrown out of the country if caught in a raid on that day would be somewhat high.
    Hmm, this Christian aspect is something I think requires more research. Next time a pushy mamasan comes up to me asking what type of girl I want, I'll politely ask for one with a clitoris to see if there's any Christians in the house. It's getting a bit boring asking for a girl with a limp from Pekalongan.

    Years ago I visited some of the harem / brothels kept by the ruling class in Aceh and Padang and all the girls were Christian. I think it was a religious snobbery thing, the girls were imported from Nias but on reflection they were probably slaves rather than working girls. I'm too young to have visited the most famous brothel in Jakarta, if not South-East Asia, called Macao Po. I'm told one of floors was all Christian but I guess the majority were local mixed-Portuguese and Chinese converts.

  5. #11488
    Quote Originally Posted by AmitGautam  [View Original Post]
    There is one girl. Amoy No 100 in Kimochi Mabes who is a Christian and is a great B2 B masseur with good licking skills.
    Give her a call then and see if she will come to your hotel. She won't be working on Idul Fitri and since she's Christian, she also won't be celebrating it.

  6. #11487
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    That's good information. Although in the last 20 years, I can honestly say that I don't think I have ever been with even one Christian Indonesian prostitute working in a brothel. I didn't know they existed in those type of places other than imports. I have been with quite a few Christian Indonesian non working girls and some free lance around town, but I have yet to meet one working in a brothel like at FM hotel. I guess they may exist, but the quantity would be very low indeed. The fact that the place is open at all on Idul Fitri is shocking. The owner of FM Hotel must have very high Government contacts to be able to pull that off. I can't imagine much that would be considered more of a sin in Islamic culture than having a *****house open on Idul Fitri day. Personally, I wouldn't go there on Idul Fitri even if it was open. Not because it's against my religion, but I would imagine the chances of being thrown out of the country if caught in a raid on that day would be somewhat high.
    There is one girl. Amoy No 100 in Kimochi Mabes who is a Christian and is a great B2 B masseur with good licking skills.

  7. #11486
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    <snip> in the last 20 years, I can honestly say that I don't think I have ever been with even one Christian Indonesian prostitute working in a brothel. I didn't know they existed in those type of places other than imports.
    I had a sesssion with a Christian Indonesian girl in 2016 at Malioboro Lounge of all places. She was one of the topless dancers and a friend of another girl I knew there. She was an attractive slender spinner and she was very sexy when she danced, so I let her steal me away from her friend. (I tipped the friend to make sure eveything was ok). The only weird thing about her was she had a rather large, green background, ornate, Medieval looking gold cross tatoo on her thigh which is why I asked her what her religion was. She showed no self-consciousness while dancing on stage with the cross, but she was camera shy, so I only have a couple of head shots, but she was a very nice little girl. I did not see her at Malioboro this year or I probably would have repeated with her.

    Then back in 2015, I had a LT with a petite CJ's FL. I liked her so much that in the morning I invited her down to the buffet breakfast at the Marriott where she amazed me by piling up a plate full of bacon; HIGH! ... And eating every slice of bacon on her plate and nothing else except coffee. That was her breakfast - bacon & coffee. LOL. So I asked her about her heritage and she told me her mother was Belgian and that she was Christian. So she was of mixed race, but born and raised an Indonesian girl in Jakarta, Bahasa her native language, and she looked Indonesian. I had 3 bareback rounds with her that night. She was very good in bed and a lot of fun in the bar, but sadly, I never saw her again. That one I kind of miss and I still keep my eye out for her whenever I visit CJ's. You never know when they might resurface.

  8. #11485
    Quote Originally Posted by UsPete  [View Original Post]
    98% are shut. FM Hotel in Grogol usually stays open. It's maybe worth phoning up on the day and asking if they have any Christian girls working.

    I went on IdulFitri there two years ago as I was holed-up in Pullman Central Park. The papasan was very apologetic and said "sorry we only have Nasrani girls". I muttered to him while shaking my head in disconcert I was willing to forgive him on this occasion. Pretty decent line-up but prices were inflated as these girls were "freelance" probably meaning not from their in-house cages.
    That's good information. Although in the last 20 years, I can honestly say that I don't think I have ever been with even one Christian Indonesian prostitute working in a brothel. I didn't know they existed in those type of places other than imports. I have been with quite a few Christian Indonesian non working girls and some free lance around town, but I have yet to meet one working in a brothel like at FM hotel. I guess they may exist, but the quantity would be very low indeed. The fact that the place is open at all on Idul Fitri is shocking. The owner of FM Hotel must have very high Government contacts to be able to pull that off. I can't imagine much that would be considered more of a sin in Islamic culture than having a *****house open on Idul Fitri day. Personally, I wouldn't go there on Idul Fitri even if it was open. Not because it's against my religion, but I would imagine the chances of being thrown out of the country if caught in a raid on that day would be somewhat high.

  9. #11484
    Quote Originally Posted by ConquerorVal  [View Original Post]
    I guess I just want to restate the question of whether these vans are around only during Ramadan, or is this is an ongoing enterprise. Will be in Jakarta next weekend in the vicinity.
    They are there all the time, not just during Ramadan.

  10. #11483
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    Does anybody know if Classic / Travel / King's Cross will be open during Idulfitri days (starting on Saturday 24th, tomorrow and onwards). I expect there will be fewer girls than usual (going to see families etc), but will the places be working at all? Is there a way to find out without going all the way there?
    98% are shut. FM Hotel in Grogol usually stays open. It's maybe worth phoning up on the day and asking if they have any Christian girls working.

    I went on IdulFitri there two years ago as I was holed-up in Pullman Central Park. The papasan was very apologetic and said "sorry we only have Nasrani girls". I muttered to him while shaking my head in disconcert I was willing to forgive him on this occasion. Pretty decent line-up but prices were inflated as these girls were "freelance" probably meaning not from their in-house cages.

  11. #11482
    Quote Originally Posted by Crocodilexp  [View Original Post]
    Does anybody know if Classic / Travel / King's Cross will be open during Idulfitri days (starting on Saturday 24th, tomorrow and onwards). I expect there will be fewer girls than usual (going to see families etc), but will the places be working at all? Is there a way to find out without going all the way there?
    Nothing will be open on Idul Fitri. But they will open a few days later.

  12. #11481

    Vans at Tamansari

    Quote Originally Posted by OffshoreSwell  [View Original Post]
    Nice report!, the vans can be found at Tamansari which is where you were pretty much. Well done.
    I guess I just want to restate the question of whether these vans are around only during Ramadan, or is this is an ongoing enterprise. Will be in Jakarta next weekend in the vicinity.

  13. #11480

    Idulfitri openings of Classic / Travel / King's Cross

    Does anybody know if Classic / Travel / King's Cross will be open during Idulfitri days (starting on Saturday 24th, tomorrow and onwards). I expect there will be fewer girls than usual (going to see families etc), but will the places be working at all? Is there a way to find out without going all the way there?

  14. #11479

    Good report

    Quote Originally Posted by FriendlyPlanet  [View Original Post]
    Was in Jakarta last week so went exploring in Kota, along Mangga Besar. While many of the clubs and massage parlours in the area were closed for Ramadan, I was pleased to see that the holy month had not cut into the prolific street scene around Lokasari Plaza. There were about 30 girls out on the street between the gate and the plaza, with the most congregating around the KFC.

    I negotiated 400 K for ST back at my hotel room (stayed at the Sparks, not recommended) - the right price was 300 K, but couldn't find a girl I wanted who was willing to take that. Payment on the street to the pimp.

    Unfortunately, back at the room, turned out the 21 year old spinner I recruited had a child, but much worse, a commercial attitude. Took the promise of a significant tip after good performance (300 K) to get GFE service. Once we got the commercial terms over, a good session- BBBJ, multiple positions, etc.

    Released her back to the streets when I walked out to look for some late night food found some excellent street BBQ, then heading back to my hotel around 1 am when a pimp called me over to his van with 7 girls in the back. I didn't see any I liked, to which he responded, no problem, had me hop on the back of my bike and drove me down some backstreets in the direction of Hotel Travel. I thought he was taking me to the brothel that used to be behind Hotel Travel, but then he stopped on a street corner where there were 5 vans / SUVs parked, all full of girls!

    I looked through them all, picked out a likely looking specimen, and paid 350 K to the pimp (again, payment in advance, and I would guess the right price is 300 K).

    He took me and the girl back to my hotel, and this 19 year old recruit was much more accommodating. Kissing, BBBJ, multiple positions, let me tie her up- pretty much full on GFE, if your girlfriend was a hot, thin Indonesian girl. I ended up tipping her 200 K for an excellent session, and fell sound asleep.

    Anyone else run into these vans in Kota, or are they a new thing, or maybe even just a Ramadan thing, when many of the normal venues close down? Anyway, keep your eyes open- you never know what you will find on the streets!
    Nice report!, the vans can be found at Tamansari which is where you were pretty much. Well done.

  15. #11478
    Quote Originally Posted by FriendlyPlanet  [View Original Post]
    Was in Jakarta last week so went exploring in Kota, along Mangga Besar. While many of the clubs and massage parlours in the area were closed for Ramadan, I was pleased to see that the holy month had not cut into the prolific street scene around Lokasari Plaza. There were about 30 girls out on the street between the gate and the plaza, with the most congregating around the KFC.

    I negotiated 400 K for ST back at my hotel room (stayed at the Sparks, not recommended) - the right price was 300 K, but couldn't find a girl I wanted who was willing to take that. Payment on the street to the pimp.

    Unfortunately, back at the room, turned out the 21 year old spinner I recruited had a child, but much worse, a commercial attitude. Took the promise of a significant tip after good performance (300 K) to get GFE service. Once we got the commercial terms over, a good session- BBBJ, multiple positions, etc.

    Released her back to the streets when I walked out to look for some late night food found some excellent street BBQ, then heading back to my hotel around 1 am when a pimp called me over to his van with 7 girls in the back. I didn't see any I liked, to which he responded, no problem, had me hop on the back of my bike and drove me down some backstreets in the direction of Hotel Travel. I thought he was taking me to the brothel that used to be behind Hotel Travel, but then he stopped on a street corner where there were 5 vans / SUVs parked, all full of girls!

    I looked through them all, picked out a likely looking specimen, and paid 350 K to the pimp (again, payment in advance, and I would guess the right price is 300 K).

    He took me and the girl back to my hotel, and this 19 year old recruit was much more accommodating. Kissing, BBBJ, multiple positions, let me tie her up- pretty much full on GFE, if your girlfriend was a hot, thin Indonesian girl. I ended up tipping her 200 K for an excellent session, and fell sound asleep.

    Anyone else run into these vans in Kota, or are they a new thing, or maybe even just a Ramadan thing, when many of the normal venues close down? Anyway, keep your eyes open- you never know what you will find on the streets!
    I don't understand you. You know what the normal price is and you can't get it? 300 k is already too much and half is going to the mamasan or the pimp but anyway it s 300 k max period.

    And you paid in advance and you wonder that the service sucks? Jesus rule number one everywhere in the world for FL never pay in advance!

    And of course you fall for this old trick that for more money she will deliver good service pfff She saw you coming my friend.

    And if I take a girl I make sure she has no baby then no surprise.

    If she lied since I didn't pay in advance then she s out with no money that s how you keep them with good service and not by splashing money like idiot.

    This kind of behaviour really pisses me off.

    If I have a girl I like I don't tip I take her number and I say I will have her back without the pimp less money for me more for her and they understand that.

    I guess you were lucky with the van girl but these are street FLs they should be 150 max like it used to be in kalijodo before some asshole ordered to destroy it.

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