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  1. #11320

    Rates

    Quote Originally Posted by KoperenKlaas  [View Original Post]
    I noticed that too on my last visit. Girls in Top Gun don't hesitate to demand 1 Juta for ST and take quite some haggling to go down to sensible rates.
    I paid 700 max for LT from Top Gun just a year ago. What's driving the prices up? Is Classic still the same low price?

  2. #11319
    Quote Originally Posted by KoperenKlaas  [View Original Post]
    I noticed that too on my last visit. Girls in Top Gun don't hesitate to demand 1 Juta for ST and take quite some haggling to go down to sensible rates.
    I find that after they come with you once, you can get their price down after that outside the CJs environment. Some CJs girls I take the first time for 1. 5 or even 2 million, will gladly come to my place other days for 1 million. I have one favorite who I have had come to my place many times now for 1 million. Recently she came over (no negotation of price) and I had planned to give her 1 million. However, rather than grab a few drinks at the local quiet pub or at my place like we normally do, I decided to bring her with me to CJs to watch the band and hang out for a while before returning home to shag. It was a Monday and I had been to CJs the previous Monday and it was a buyer's market for guys, with very few guys and lots of girls. So I felt it pretty safe to go there that Monday. However, when we got there, it was crowded and a complete sausage fest that night and my girl was by far the best looking girl in the place. On our way in, every guy's head turned as she walked by. We went to the back bar area and she obviously realized she was going to easily be able to get big money that night if she wanted to leave me and find a different client for the night. When the band played the song "Ya baby, I'm worth it", she made the comment that she was worth 2 million tonight. She stuck with me though, even though I wouldn't commit to giving her 2 million. I didn't end up giving her 2 million, but I did give her more than a million. It's the last time I will bring her to CJs.

  3. #11318
    Quote Originally Posted by KoperenKlaas  [View Original Post]
    I noticed that too on my last visit. Girls in Top Gun don't hesitate to demand 1 Juta for ST and take quite some haggling to go down to sensible rates.
    I'm interested in what is driving the price increases. On the Demand side Oil and Gas and Mining expat numbers have tanked and I'm not aware of any other industries that have provided a large influx of cashed up foreigners.

    On the Supply side, more and more girls are making their way to the big city for jobs and / or education.

    I realize it was a long time ago, but during the Suharto exit / CRISMON years many expats left and rates could be bargained down to a half or third of the normal. Now it should be a buyers market but prices are going up.

    Any ideas?

  4. #11317

    Girl rates

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    <SNIP>

    On another note, I went to CJs Wednesday night and the talent level was off the hook. Absolutely awesome selection. I can't say that I've seen a better crop of girls in one bar at any point in my 20 years in Jakarta. But it's a crime how much money these girls want these days. And guys must be paying it because the girls stand firm asking for 2 million. Crazy.
    I noticed that too on my last visit. Girls in Top Gun don't hesitate to demand 1 Juta for ST and take quite some haggling to go down to sensible rates.

  5. #11316
    Quote Originally Posted by Vrsabien  [View Original Post]
    OK true that, but what should you tip a classic girl who starfishes you?
    Nothing. A tip is optional. In my opinion, it's better to give no tip than a small tip they regard as insufficient.

    Personally, I'd give a 50 k tip if I managed to give her a long, hard pounding while she starfished, she didn't make any turnoff moves, and didn't press too hard for a tip. Maybe 100 k if the service was actually good and affectionate, but this has yet to happen to me at either Classic or Travel.

    Honestly, I don't care what locals do, we Bule will always be treated differently anyway.

  6. #11315
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    I'll have to check her out. I won't take her to the back room because I don't like starfish, but I will take a photo of her and post it if I can (since you guys haven't shared)..
    I didn't know you could take photos in there but still its pretty dark.

    When you walk in she sits in the group on the right at the far wall.

    Three masmans knew who I was talking about when I said her name and each described her features to me as "short, slim, big chest".

    So Okta means October, then my friend good luck on your "Hunt for Red Octa."

  7. #11314
    Quote Originally Posted by Vrsabien  [View Original Post]
    So yeah, has anyone taken Okta before, what did you tip her or what have you tipped Classic girls before?
    I have no idea who Okta is, but all the girls there will be expecting the same tip. They normally all get 100 k as the routine tip amount (even from the locals).

    Most of my Indonesian friends tell me they tip the girl 100 k no matter what, and if they didn't like them, they just don't repeat.

    However, here is how I tip those girls:

    1) If they insist on my wearing a condom for the BJ. NO TIP AT ALL (and likely I will immediately dress, walk out and complain to the mamasan to get a change of girl.).

    2) If they show little to no affection or passion and just go through the motions (starfish) - NO TIP AT ALL or possibly 50 k depending if they at least provided me with some pleasure.

    3) If they provide a good BJ and are some fun in bed and a good shag - 100 K.

    4) If they provide outstanding service such as top notch BJ, giving my ass a good rimming, allowing anal, and allowing me to take photos and / or video, I may tip up to 300 k (happened once in over 100 visits there)

    50 K tip to the girl after shagging her hard for a half hour will likely be considered an insult to the girl. The girls I do not tip at least 100 k are girls I would NEVER repeat. From my experience, Category 2 as listed above is the average Hotel Classic service.

    I do find it interesting that 2 people know this girl by name. I can't recall the name of even one girl I have been with at Hotel Classic although I have been with many. They have over 100 girls working there. For 2 people to single one out, she must be special. I'll have to check her out. I won't take her to the back room because I don't like starfish, but I will take a photo of her and post it if I can (since you guys haven't shared).

    On a side note, Okta is a very popular Indonesian name. If it's her real name, it likely means she was born in October. For some reason, Indonesians like to name their daughters various versions of Okta when their daughter is born in October. Oktavia, Oktaviani, Oktaviana, Oktania, Oktaria, Oktasari, Oktavita, Oktavitasari, etc.

  8. #11313
    Quote Originally Posted by SteelBaton  [View Original Post]
    I think that's her spot when she wants to be working, but she's not there other times. There are at least half a dozen mamas around that whole place, but you got to know where to look at what time of day. Seems like it's a decent afternoon place.
    How did she show you the girls available, photo on phone?

  9. #11312
    Quote Originally Posted by Smoothy  [View Original Post]
    Starfish is standard service at Classic. If you go to Classic, you have to expect that. The service there is crap on a regular basis. You are getting an hour with a young girl for very little money. That's the draw.
    OK true that, but what should you tip a classic girl who starfishes you?

    I read a few reports which reckon the locals don't tip or at least not big?

  10. #11311

    Couchsurfing

    As well as Tinder, Couchsurfing is a great way to meet girls of university age. I've been using it for several years now, and had a lot of success without having to pay a single dime.

    Don't request a place to stay (as the site is designed for), but just tell the girls that you're visiting Jakarta, would like to meet a local to show you around, be a tour guide for 1 day etc. Give them a compliment and say you find Indonesian girls beautiful, but she's especially beautiful. A lot of teasing and flirting. When you meet them, actually invest in their time and let them show you around, take them out for dinner and ask questions about life in Indonesia etc. Before making a move. You'll know if they're interested in you or not.

    My most memorable experience was meeting a 21 year old whose family was currently away visiting relatives, and we had genuine fun "sightseeing", but by the end of the day it was clear she wanted to fuck me. She wouldn't come to my hotel as she had no experience of hotels and was scared, but I got sneaked in to her Kampung (a real slum area) in the middle of the night, not to arouse local suspicion. We spent all night fucking with no A/C or fan, it was like a sauna. To cut a long story short, her family returned a day early and I had to flee the house in the morning. But she came to my hotel that night and stayed overnight, telling her parents she was at a friend's house. She became my regular f*ck buddy in Jakarta and I saw her every time I visited, without paying anything. Sadly she's got married now and we've lost touch.

    Another time I met a 19 year old who wanted to bring a friend along, which was no problem. Again, we had genuine fun with them showing me around, taking me to different areas of the city. That night they invited me to a birthday party of another friend, and I was the VIP. There were at least 4 girls there who looked like they'd fuck me, but I stuck with the original 2. The next day I messaged the cuter one and asked if she'd like to come to my hotel for dinner, to which she readily agreed. But she arrived with the same friend, which made things awkward. So I was amazed when they said after dinner, "so are we going to see your room now?

    To cut another long story short, the 3 of us spent all night fucking, and they left the next day without me paying anything. I got a glowing review from the first girl on my Couchsurfing profile, saying I'd been fun to meet and she'd recommend me as I was polite and friendly.

  11. #11310
    Quote Originally Posted by Vrsabien  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for this info, I was keen to go to Loksari last time in Jakarta but didn't get chance, but also read it's sort of a place where it's just random and not certain to find a girl or at least a masman leading to a girl.

    But you reckon that old woman masman in front of KFC is her set position?

    Might try and see if I venture there.
    .
    I think that's her spot when she wants to be working, but she's not there other times. There are at least half a dozen mamas around that whole place, but you got to know where to look at what time of day. Seems like it's a decent afternoon place.

  12. #11309
    Quote Originally Posted by Vrsabien  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone done Octa / Okter at classic level 2?

    she starfished me
    Starfish is standard service at Classic. If you go to Classic, you have to expect that. The service there is crap on a regular basis. You are getting an hour with a young girl for very little money. That's the draw.

  13. #11308

    SIM serices

    Any suggestions on SIM providers or packages?

    My last visit, I bought a SimPATI card from the airport which promised 4 GB at 4 G speeds. It was fairly good, but the SMS and phone credits ran out very quickly. I found it very confusing to top up or know my balances.

    Any better recommendations?

  14. #11307

    Ockta at classic level 2 and tipping

    Has anyone done Octa / Okter at classic level 2?

    She an early 20's, short, slim with big tits. Sits on the far right wall when you walk in?

    I asked cause fcked her couple weeks ago but she starfished me and I got annyoed and just fcked her hard and came after 30 mins with her.

    She asked for a tip at the end and I being an angry arsehole at the time fitst said no but then gave hller only 50 k. Which is not a good tip and she made sure I knew, saying she gets double that, but me still being angry from her starfish mode just walked off on her.

    Not good I know.

    Anyway went back on a Sunday, and she was looking hot as because she hits all my buttons (young early 20's, short slim with a great rack).

    So forget my starfish experience, I just wanted to fuck her again. But here the thing she refused!?

    Most likey cause I didn't tip her well. So I thought fuck this place and went to level 5 and had great session with Pay (see other report).

    So yeah, has anyone taken Okta before, what did you tip her or what have you tipped Classic girls before?

  15. #11306
    Quote Originally Posted by SteelBaton  [View Original Post]
    Despite several successful prior visits to Jakarta, this time I decide to try the guiding services of Jakarta After Dark com. I was reluctant considering the price, $200, but after some research and recommendations from other seniors on the forum decided to take a chance. The tours are provided by an experienced Indonesian gentleman with a graduate school business education who has lived and mongered in Jakarta for 20+ years he is well-known and recommended by many of our senior members on the Jakarta forum. You can see some of the details of his experiences, and find means of booking his services, on his website: http://jakartaafterdark.com/ (look toward the bottom of the very long home page for these details). There were also some posts in the classified section of the Indo forum about him.

    As a P.S. - the growing demands of club girls for CBJ is discouraging I understand this is now near-protocol at Alexis. Gentlemen, we need to resist this!!
    Thanks for this info, I was keen to go to Loksari last time in Jakarta but didn't get chance, but also read it's sort of a place where it's just random and not certain to find a girl or at least a masman leading to a girl.

    But you reckon that old woman masman in front of KFC is her set position?

    Might try and see if I venture there.

    Also JAD's services for the non brothel places (classic, Travel hotel) seem worth it, I wouldn't know where to go at street level.

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