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  1. #653
    Quote Originally Posted by MongolianDrill  [View Original Post]
    Hello,

    I'm a local, used to live in Berlin, Germany and London, UK for many years. I could help you find girls from Mongolian ads, and provide a ride. I don't need any money just want to have some English conversation and want to know more about the market too. I'm only free on weekends. Feel free to contact me if you come to UB. Thanks.
    Mongolian Drill ( seems you're a Gobi miner?)

    I guess you don't realize that since you are a non-member on this site then us members have no means of contacting you since we cannot use PM with you.

    I am like Steel in that I also visit UB regularly for work and, like you, only really free at weekends. If you pay up your $25, then maybe mutual benefits will arise, as I can provide information and definitely wide-ranging English conversation.

  2. #652
    Quote Originally Posted by JimGignac  [View Original Post]
    SteelBaton,

    I'm genuinely grateful for the well articulated and thoughtful advice on my situation. This is giving me pause and making me think twice about Mongolia. You've raised some excellent points, in particular about the potential difficulties dealing with local men who strongly prefer that foreigners not sleep with their women. And flabby tits are definitely not something I would travel halfway around the world to see!

    But, as I mentioned in my response to RedKilt, I sort of enjoy the idea of Mongolia as unexplored territory for mongering. I know I won't be the first to try it, but it's certainly an unconventional choice as compared to Thailand and the other usual spots. I haven't spent long enough in China to get out on the town unaccompanied, but I am a tad hesitant given the government regime there and possibility of encountering issues with local LE if the wrong person took an interest. Maybe that's just my ignorance of China. I'm sure in the major cities like Shanghai and Beijing they are well accustomed to foreigners enjoying the nightlife.

    I will mull this over and advise if I decide to book. If I go, there will definitely be a lengthy report to follow. I like a challenge and I'm an eternal optimist. In my mind's eye, I go there and meet up with a number of girls of college age through WeChat and have a great time. A different girl every night and maybe a nice massage with extras in the afternoon for relaxation. And so I don't blow it in two minutes once I'm with that lovely 19-year-old in my hotel later in the evening!.
    Hello,

    I'm a local, used to live in Berlin, Germany and London, UK for many years. I could help you find girls from Mongolian ads, and provide a ride. I don't need any money just want to have some English conversation and want to know more about the market too. I'm only free on weekends. Feel free to contact me if you come to UB. Thanks.

  3. #651
    Quote Originally Posted by JimGignac  [View Original Post]
    SteelBaton,
    I like a challenge and I'm an eternal optimist. In my mind's eye, I go there and meet up with a number of girls of college age through WeChat and have a great time. A different girl every night and maybe a nice massage with extras in the afternoon for relaxation. And so I don't blow it in two minutes once I'm with that lovely 19-year-old in my hotel later in the evening!
    Ok, I'll be waiting to hear how you go! Please save those phone numbers and WeChat contacts and perhaps you can repay me and others with a PM of a few of the connections that you will make? And, if you can bed a different slim 19 year old 4 nights in a row, I'll eat my hat and buy you dinner at the best place in town.

    On China, I don't think that you need to worry about LE, but you can read the forums and make your own call. I have ventured into many dozens of situations in China and never had a bad experience. So, try UB for a week but leave open the chance to catch a flight back to Beijing (flights to UB route via Beijing or Hong Kong) and then have some fun there at the usual places and then hop a flight to Chengdu the capital of Sichuan. The birth place of the most beautiful girls in China, according to many Chinese men. I had some good luck in the discos there. The smaller towns are not good hunting places, but the big cities are.

  4. #650
    Quote Originally Posted by SteelBaton  [View Original Post]
    Mate,

    No, I would not advise coming to Mongolia with the idea of oicking up the local beauties and bedding them. Several reasons:

    1) the women here are not especially beautiful in my opinion. Although there can be the one off that's a looker, most are fairly stout and dark with wide faces. On my first visit I expected to see many beautiful women but was disappointed. Its not like the youtube videos.

    2) even if you like the look of the locals, you had damn well better be careful trying to pick them up. If you accidently hit on someone's girlfriend or hope to be girlfriend, the local men may get aggressive. Local bars would be dangerous places to chat up the single looking women..
    SteelBaton,

    I'm genuinely grateful for the well articulated and thoughtful advice on my situation. This is giving me pause and making me think twice about Mongolia. You've raised some excellent points, in particular about the potential difficulties dealing with local men who strongly prefer that foreigners not sleep with their women. And flabby tits are definitely not something I would travel halfway around the world to see!

    But, as I mentioned in my response to RedKilt, I sort of enjoy the idea of Mongolia as unexplored territory for mongering. I know I won't be the first to try it, but it's certainly an unconventional choice as compared to Thailand and the other usual spots. I haven't spent long enough in China to get out on the town unaccompanied, but I am a tad hesitant given the government regime there and possibility of encountering issues with local LE if the wrong person took an interest. Maybe that's just my ignorance of China. I'm sure in the major cities like Shanghai and Beijing they are well accustomed to foreigners enjoying the nightlife.

    I will mull this over and advise if I decide to book. If I go, there will definitely be a lengthy report to follow. I like a challenge and I'm an eternal optimist. In my mind's eye, I go there and meet up with a number of girls of college age through WeChat and have a great time. A different girl every night and maybe a nice massage with extras in the afternoon for relaxation. And so I don't blow it in two minutes once I'm with that lovely 19-year-old in my hotel later in the evening!

    Beyond WeChat, I'm intrigued by the option of getting assistance from a local driver who speaks English and who can set something up with a girl. That sounds like another possible avenue, albeit an expensive one based on a few of the reports from the last year.

    It seems to me that in a place like Mongolia where the economy is depressed at the moment, there should be single women willing to have some fun with a reasonable-looking, friendly Caucasian foreigner who is willing to compensate them for their time and let them stay in a nice hotel. From what you describe, it's more the matter of meeting and communicating with them effectively and safely that poses a challenge. Once you find a truly attractive one.

  5. #649

    WeChat as the best option.

    Quote Originally Posted by RedKilt  [View Original Post]
    Not all hotels are girl-friendly, and some of them will hit you with additional fees if you arrive back late at night with a companion (it happened to me at 2 different hotels).

    If you read the forum, WeChat is your friend (in my opinion) as you ruled out MPs and visiting clubs. Some of the restaurants mentioned on the UB thread are always possibilities.

    If WeChat doesn't work and the restaurant pick-up also doesn't work then the trip could be a bust for you. It's definitely NOT a sure-fire place like Bkk or Manila.
    Red Kilt,

    Thanks for your thoughts on my scenario. WeChat does sound like a potentially useful tool in my case. I like the idea of being able to line up prospective options from the comfort of my hotel / restaurant or while I'm doing some sightseeing around town.

    I know there are easier places to go in Asia for fun. I've done Thailand but haven't tried Philippines yet. It seems almost boring though because the mongering scene is so established there. The idea of the Mongolian women being unexplored (or less explored) holds some appeal for me!

  6. #648

    One correction and one more reason Mongolia might be a bad choice

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelBaton  [View Original Post]
    Mate,

    In short, I've hunted in most countries in East and SE Asia and I would put Mongolia in the bottom quartile for the type of action you seem to be interested in.
    Steel.
    I went back and looked at my photos of Mongolian girls I have been with (about a dozen) and most have fair skin like the Chinese (not dark as I said below) But I stick to my view that many are not especially good looking to my taste. They are often a bit chubby with small or flabby tits, even those under 25 (all I have had were 18-27, although a few looked older!) Of course, this is a generalization and I would nor want to disparage a whole country! There certainly beautiful women in UB.

    One additional reason to reconsider a trip to UB to pick up girls is that very little English is spoken and your Google Translate is of below average accuracy compared to places like Indonesian Bahasa or even China. Its a small city, about 1 million people who arent nomads. By the time you run the numbers, I think you are down to maybe 500 women of eligible age, marital status, and inclination to have casual or paid sex with foreigners. And, 90% of those won't speak any English. Usually this isn't an issue for me, but if you are a quiet 40 year old guy who wants to pick up single women it will be a challenge.

    So, I would say go if you like a real challenge - prove me dead wrong! You will see some pretty women on the street, but I would be shocked if you had one in your bed even 2 nights out of 7 unless you are happy with 30+ overweight massage hookers. But you can find those most anywhere.

    Let us know what you decide and then add a report!

  7. #647

    Bad Idea IMO

    Quote Originally Posted by JimGignac  [View Original Post]
    Gents,

    I'm writing with a question about the wisdom / viability of travelling to Ulaanbaatar for a one-week vacation, with mongering as a primary purpose.

    I'm pushing 40 years old and I work a white collar job. I've done some travel to Southeast Asia in the past, so I know the joys of Asian women and am familiar with the pay-for-play scene.

    Lately, I've been reading up on Mongolia and watching some travel vlogs on YouTube. I see that Mongolian woman can be absolutely stunning! The idea of going to a remote and mostly undiscovered country chock full of beautiful Asian women who have amazing curves (derived from that milk and meat-laden diet!) is definitely appealing. This has really captured my curiosity and become a minor obsession of late.

    Now I find myself with some vacation days I need to burn up this year, and I'm contemplating booking a one-week trip to UB to check out the place. Probably during the summer months when the weather would be more comfortable.

    Having done a bit of research here on ISG, I see the mongering scene is limited and not particularly visible. I don't mind a challenge, but I also don't want to be foolhardy and end up wasting money and vacation days on a trip that is going to be a bust. The massage places sound decent as an afternoon activity, but I can easily get the same thing here in Canada. What I'm really after is hooking up with some college-age beauties for sex, and ideally getting a chance so sample a different girl every night.

    I would have a moderate budget so I wouldn't be staying at the Shangri-La Hotel but probably a more mid-range place of three or four stars. Likewise with my entertainment budget each evening -- I'd like to keep that to around $100 per night.

    What do you think guys, for those of you who have been to (or are currently in) Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia: Am I wise to book a one-week trip with the primary purpose being to meet and pleasure the local women? I should add, while I'm a reasonable-looking guy, I'm fairly quiet by nature and probably wouldn't be looking to pick up girls at some noisy club. I don't mind chatting up girls in other situations (at the mall etc.), but failing that, I would be looking for a sure thing (pay for play) so I don't have any lonely nights.

    Thanks for any insights or advice you can offer on my scenario above, gentlemen.
    Mate,

    No, I would not advise coming to Mongolia with the idea of oicking up the local beauties and bedding them. Several reasons:

    1) the women here are not especially beautiful in my opinion. Although there can be the one off that's a looker, most are fairly stout and dark with wide faces. On my first visit I expected to see many beautiful women but was disappointed. Its not like the youtube videos.

    2) even if you like the look of the locals, you had damn well better be careful trying to pick them up. If you accidently hit on someone's girlfriend or hope to be girlfriend, the local men may get aggressive. Local bars would be dangerous places to chat up the single looking women.

    3) the P4 P scene here is pretty bleak and there is a good chance you'the be spending nights alone. But if all you need is a rub and tug that you will generally find.

    4) as mentioned hotels can be tough, if you are determined rent an AirBnB where you have easy access without passing building guards.

    5) I am not an expert but it doesn't seem to me that the Mongolian culture is especially friendly to foreigners, especially those hitting on their sisters, girlfriends, or daughters.

    Why don't you try China if you haven't been there. The women are the most beautiful as you have 800 million of the fairer sex to choose from. Lots of Chinese women are intersted in white guys amd P4 P is readily available in most big cities. Shanghai would be an obvious first choice.

    Or, have you been to Indonesia? Tons of friendly pretty girls amd a great P4 P scene in Jakarta if you strike out with pickups. Very affordable. Smaller cities are more conservative and it is more difficult, but Jakarta has 100,000 women most men would like and many are interrsted in foreign men.

    Vietnam is tough, in my opinion. Myanmar could be an option. Of course the Philippines is well documented and lots of English is spoken. But I find most of the P4 P action is MILFs which I'm not attracted to. Cambodia has a good scene.

    In short, I've hunted in most countries in East and SE Asia and I would put Mongolia in the bottom quartile for the type of action you seem to be interested in.

    Good luck and tell us where you end up.

    Steel.

  8. #646
    Quote Originally Posted by JimGignac  [View Original Post]

    Having done a bit of research here on ISG, I see the mongering scene is limited and not particularly visible. I don't mind a challenge, but I also don't want to be foolhardy and end up wasting money and vacation days on a trip that is going to be a bust. The massage places sound decent as an afternoon activity, but I can easily get the same thing here in Canada. What I'm really after is hooking up with some college-age beauties for sex, and ideally getting a chance so sample a different girl every night.

    What do you think guys, for those of you who have been to (or are currently in) Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia: Am I wise to book a one-week trip with the primary purpose being to meet and pleasure the local women? I should add, while I'm a reasonable-looking guy, I'm fairly quiet by nature and probably wouldn't be looking to pick up girls at some noisy club. I don't mind chatting up girls in other situations (at the mall etc.), but failing that, I would be looking for a sure thing (pay for play) so I don't have any lonely nights.
    Not all hotels are girl-friendly, and some of them will hit you with additional fees if you arrive back late at night with a companion (it happened to me at 2 different hotels).

    If you read the forum, WeChat is your friend (in my opinion) as you ruled out MPs and visiting clubs. Some of the restaurants mentioned on the UB thread are always possibilities.

    If WeChat doesn't work and the restaurant pick-up also doesn't work then the trip could be a bust for you. It's definitely NOT a sure-fire place like Bkk or Manila.

  9. #645
    Quote Originally Posted by Sainsda  [View Original Post]
    Things are getting much better. The temperatures are around 5 degrees Celsius around 40 F. Even the girls are starting to look much hotter than usual haha.

    Found one place that offers FS + massage options. Girls are above average with one or two hotties. There were around 6 or 7 girls, all between the ages of 20-25. Paid 70 k for one shot because it was really late and I was a little tired, for around 35 minutes and it was a good experience. Chose one of the hotties with slim body, perky boobs, and a long black hair. I must say, the girls were looking much cleaner and professional than other places I've been to. BBBJ, some rimming (I don't think she does it on a regular basis), and a decent sex.

    No english or any kind of communication, just straight business.

    The place is north of the big AZ store, or right across from "Nisdeg Mashin" (Flying Car) autoservice place. I don't know how you call the exact region but all the taxi drivers in UB should know Nisdeg Mashin. It's a 3 story building with a Bayan Bogd (cyrillic) sign on top. 2nd floor, glass door on the left. Will definitely check it out later after I come back from Beijing.

    Cheers.
    Well, went there last Friday, quite a hard place to find. The security tells where the place is. / third floor, glass door / the place has a various options of service, and many girls, but not that pretty. Went to other place. I'll suggest this place if you only want an experience with a normal Mongolian girl.

  10. #644

    Traveling to UB with mongering as a primary purpose?

    Gents,

    I'm writing with a question about the wisdom / viability of travelling to Ulaanbaatar for a one-week vacation, with mongering as a primary purpose.

    I'm pushing 40 years old and I work a white collar job. I've done some travel to Southeast Asia in the past, so I know the joys of Asian women and am familiar with the pay-for-play scene.

    Lately, I've been reading up on Mongolia and watching some travel vlogs on YouTube. I see that Mongolian woman can be absolutely stunning! The idea of going to a remote and mostly undiscovered country chock full of beautiful Asian women who have amazing curves (derived from that milk and meat-laden diet!) is definitely appealing. This has really captured my curiosity and become a minor obsession of late.

    Now I find myself with some vacation days I need to burn up this year, and I'm contemplating booking a one-week trip to UB to check out the place. Probably during the summer months when the weather would be more comfortable.

    Having done a bit of research here on ISG, I see the mongering scene is limited and not particularly visible. I don't mind a challenge, but I also don't want to be foolhardy and end up wasting money and vacation days on a trip that is going to be a bust. The massage places sound decent as an afternoon activity, but I can easily get the same thing here in Canada. What I'm really after is hooking up with some college-age beauties for sex, and ideally getting a chance so sample a different girl every night.

    I would have a moderate budget so I wouldn't be staying at the Shangri-La Hotel but probably a more mid-range place of three or four stars. Likewise with my entertainment budget each evening -- I'd like to keep that to around $100 per night.

    What do you think guys, for those of you who have been to (or are currently in) Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia: Am I wise to book a one-week trip with the primary purpose being to meet and pleasure the local women? I should add, while I'm a reasonable-looking guy, I'm fairly quiet by nature and probably wouldn't be looking to pick up girls at some noisy club. I don't mind chatting up girls in other situations (at the mall etc.), but failing that, I would be looking for a sure thing (pay for play) so I don't have any lonely nights.

    Thanks for any insights or advice you can offer on my scenario above, gentlemen.

  11. #643
    Quote Originally Posted by RedKilt  [View Original Post]
    WeChat is your friend mate.

    I was there through all of February last year and it worked for me.

    However, as can be seen by my other posts, December to March is a very bleak time in UB.
    Things are getting much better. The temperatures are around 5 degrees Celsius around 40 F. Even the girls are starting to look much hotter than usual haha.

    Found one place that offers FS + massage options. Girls are above average with one or two hotties. There were around 6 or 7 girls, all between the ages of 20-25. Paid 70 k for one shot because it was really late and I was a little tired, for around 35 minutes and it was a good experience. Chose one of the hotties with slim body, perky boobs, and a long black hair. I must say, the girls were looking much cleaner and professional than other places I've been to. BBBJ, some rimming (I don't think she does it on a regular basis), and a decent sex.

    No english or any kind of communication, just straight business.

    The place is north of the big AZ store, or right across from "Nisdeg Mashin" (Flying Car) autoservice place. I don't know how you call the exact region but all the taxi drivers in UB should know Nisdeg Mashin. It's a 3 story building with a Bayan Bogd (cyrillic) sign on top. 2nd floor, glass door on the left. Will definitely check it out later after I come back from Beijing.

    Cheers.

  12. #642
    Quote Originally Posted by Sainsda  [View Original Post]
    Seems like winter time in Mongolia is the bane of all incentives to go out, even for working girls. Saddest time of the year over here.
    WeChat is your friend mate.

    I was there through all of February last year and it worked for me.

    However, as can be seen by my other posts, December to March is a very bleak time in UB.

  13. #641

    Winter time, quiet as usual.

    Seems like winter time in Mongolia is the bane of all incentives to go out, even for working girls. Saddest time of the year over here.

  14. #640

    UB first experience.

    Bello fellas,

    I really hope everyone of you is good.

    Here we go my first impression of UB market:

    Is jannuary so the worst moment of the year to be in Mongolia, but it is just like that.

    First night in UB I went to Nadaam at Shangri-La hotel, nice place, three couple of girls, two at the bar, another one into coach near the stage.

    To be honest no one Was looking "of the job", all were dressed well and smart, so for me was hard to say what they were doing excactly, it is also true that, I have a huge experience into this world but just about FKK or an european concept of this.

    At the moment I'm in the north of Mongolia, I will be back in UB tomorrow so I will give to Nadaam another try then I will have a look about Mint, Blu Sky and Gran Khan Irish Pub.

    Keep you posted.

  15. #639

    Airport Taxi and Girls

    Hi UglyOne,

    I can't remember if I posted my experience with StellBaton's contact, on this forum, the last time I went to UB. But I can vouch for SteelBaton's driver contact for girls. It's a little bit on the high end but I got a very nice girl. There were times when communication with the contact was challenging. Otherwise, it was another "option" for me when my other contacts weren't able to deliver. Thanks, StellBaton!

    BTW, you can also ask your hotel or Airbnb host if they offer airport pick up / drop off service. You can also buy prepaid taxi shuttle (shared or private) on Tripadvisor, Viator, and others:

    https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attracti...aanbaatar.html

    https://www.viator.com/tours/Ulaanba...22494-32191P16

    Here is also a taxi fare calculator that you can use in almost every city: https://www.worldtaximeter.com/ulan-bator.

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelBaton  [View Original Post]
    When you exit customs, to the right hand side is a taxi desk. They will arrange fixed fare to your hotel, about 40.000 local currency ($18). If you need a driver who might be able to help with girls, send me a PM.

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