Angeles City - 2006 Archived Reports

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[QUOTE=J Ride]Thank you for the information OTG. I agree with you in that mongering is a hell of alot more fun if you've done your homework ahead of time. Angeles city is definately on my to-do list next year. Fields ave here I come![/QUOTE]Angeles City is great but I also love Manila/Makati and I always spend time at both places. I should point out that I am one who loves to go to the bars and party, and be out until the wee hours of the morning. The reason I prefer both is you get to experience two different types of atmospheres. In Manila, especially on Burgos Street you will get overwhelmed with attention. When you walk into a bar it is like walking into a atmosphere where you will feel like the party is made especially for you. It is almost like a fantasy happening or you are in a dream world!. Immediately you have groups of girls surrounding you and trying to talk to you as well as hustle you for drinks, which you do not do as the prices are high there for ladies drinks. To get that type of attention is exciting to me, as it makes you feel like you are someone who is very special, even if it is for only a few minutes, and even though you know it is all about the money I am one who blocks that part out and just enjoys the festive atmosphere/environment. It is a very uplifting feeling that gives you a high that you rarely in your life will probably experience. Just something about having a group of 10 girls or so around you at one time all trying to talk to you is a lot of fun. In Angeles City you will not recieve this type of attention as it is more laid back. The same goes for going to the EDSA Complex, but again you will be experiencing a different type of atmosphere there than you would on Burgos Street.

The other advantage to spending some time in Manila is you get to experience the culture of Manila and see what life and the lifestyle is like in a city such as Manila, in addition to the mongering scene. In Angeles City there is NO LIFE other than to monger. Manila just provides more opportunities is the bottom line. I LOVE THEM BOTH AND THAT IS WHY IF I AM IN THE PHILIPPINES FOR ONLY A WEEK, I TRY TO SPEND 2 OR 3 DAYS IN ANGELES CITY, A COUPLE DAYS ON BURGOS STREET, AND THE OTHER DAYS EXPERIENCING THE LA CAFE, AND EDSA COMPLEX.

One last point I would like to make is you. You will find a better quality of girls in the Manila/Makati area and you will not become known to all the girls which is a plus in my opinion. In A.C. you will be seeing the same faces day after day while you are there. This is just my perspective on it and it is just an expression of my thoughts I wanted to share with you. I know after rereading this that my post sounds slanted towards Manila/Makati and that is NOT what I was trying to do. I was only trying to show that you might want to consider spending your time in both areas for the reasons I stated.

Hi there,

I have been now in Ac for 3 weeks. Did one mistake in Blue Nile executive, handed a girl named Gretchen the barfine and she didn't show up, also didnt give it to the bar.

Spoke to the mamasan and the manager there, they insure me to contact the girl, until today according to them she didnt show up.

She is a pretty girl, I should know it, but paying barfine for not showing up is a bad thing.

Anyway, I learned my lessons, but Im disapointed they dont pay back the barfine to me, they would get it 10 times back or more.

Anybody knows some escort services in AC? with beautiful gurls, Im really picky and the stunners often went with taiwanese or korean guys. Guess they pay more for the fun.

Just pm me if you have info on that.

Thanks and happy hunting.

Blink157,

Dude. AC is a escort service. Don't let one dumb mistake spoil your good time. There are so many bars with pretty girls you can not visit all of them in a week. If I was you I would take 2 girls from that same bar and nail them both at the sametime and then the next day carry them shopping, and if they were good. Pay their barfine again. I have been in and lived in AC off and on since 1990. It hasn't changed. Have a good time my friend.

Bulik

[QUOTE=Bulik]If I was you I would take 2 girls from that same bar and nail them both at the sametime and then the next day carry them shopping[/QUOTE]

What I did last time and it turned out to be a mistake, I took the two prettiest girls out of a bar. Okay, wonderful eye catcher to see them in bed, but they didn't like each other. Maybe some kind of competition between them, so the bedroom olympics was average at best.

Better choose one and let her choose her best friend or so.
IMHO.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Blink157]

I have been now in Ac for 3 weeks. Did one mistake in Blue Nile executive, handed a girl named Gretchen the barfine and she didn't show up, also didnt give it to the bar.


Anyway, I learned my lessons, but Im disapointed they dont pay back the barfine to me, they would get it 10 times back or more.

Anybody knows some escort services in AC? with beautiful gurls, Im really picky and the stunners often went with taiwanese or korean guys. Guess they pay more for the fun.
[/QUOTE]

[b]Blink157[/b]

These things happen to us all in AC you make a mistake you learn from it and move on. However, in my experience although AC reminds me of some old style wild west dodgy dirt town, where you can find what you want if you have money to pay. However, I have always found when things like this come up the establishments have been very fair with me indeed, If I have ever been overcharged they have gone out of their way to reimburse me. The moral of this story is never pay any monies directly to the girl, because you have to remember that 1250 Pesos to someone making 150 a night is big money.

I recall I met up with one girl and because she did not have a cell phone and was going back to her province in Sammar I gave her my old cell phone and brought her a new sim card for it, on one condition that she doesn’t give out the number to [u]any other guy(s)[/u]. Yes, Yes she said so we kept in touch until a few months later when I was back. She came to my room and received several text messages, I looked at the phone and she told me it was just a friend, it turned out it was a guy friend. Anyway after all the promises she had made I was disappointed and she tried to then state that this wasn’t a foreign guy, like that really made it any better, because in my books there are only two types of guys ‘ones that want to fuck these girls’ and ‘ones who already have’ and these local Philippino guys are worse with their sweet words and lies to woo the girls to try to con foreigners out of money while they get the girls to take care of THEM. So I dropped her there and then, with many tears, and I am sorry, etc.

Later she calls me up in the UK and says I am really sorry please forgive me, but I just put the phone down on her, I wasn’t interested, in AC as one pretty girl leaves town another two are just arriving. If I met her on the street I might fuck her and put her back out on it once I came but that's it. I later heard from I believe a friend or second cousin of her's that this local guy got her pregnant and left her he went to Manila. But a valuable lesson learnt here I have no doubt you will see her again, just make sure you get your money's worth out of her.

[QUOTE=Wangho6969]........arranging one with an asian babe cam or chat hostess cam girl. .[/QUOTE]Mate,

I have some girls on cam which I met before or chatted up from 2matchu.com, Thye do their "private" shows for me occasionally as they hope I "support" them again once in AC.

I tried to log in to this asian-babes site. But I feel the prices of 100.-$ are outrageous. What is your expereince on this - cost vs peeping?

I made a complaint about a girl i had from dolls house, basically she refused to let me fuck her. The mamasan gave me my money back, i then chose another girl from dolls house after a interview with me and the mamasan, and this girl fucked my brains out!

So I would say the managment are very customer freindly, try that in Bangkok
you will have no chance!

[QUOTE=Blink157]Hi there,

I have been now in Ac for 3 weeks. Did one mistake in Blue Nile executive, handed a girl named Gretchen the barfine and she didn't show up, also didnt give it to the bar.

Spoke to the mamasan and the manager there, they insure me to contact the girl, until today according to them she didnt show up.

She is a pretty girl, I should know it, but paying barfine for not showing up is a bad thing.

Anyway, I learned my lessons, but Im disapointed they dont pay back the barfine to me, they would get it 10 times back or more.

Anybody knows some escort services in AC? with beautiful gurls, Im really picky and the stunners often went with taiwanese or korean guys. Guess they pay more for the fun.

Just pm me if you have info on that.

Thanks and happy hunting.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bulik]Blink157,

Dude. AC is a escort service. Don't let one dumb mistake spoil your good time. There are so many bars with pretty girls you can not visit all of them in a week. If I was you I would take 2 girls from that same bar and nail them both at the sametime and then the next day carry them shopping, and if they were good. Pay their barfine again. I have been in and lived in AC off and on since 1990. It hasn't changed. Have a good time my friend.

Bulik[/QUOTE]Man that's good to hear. I might have to return to AC. It's been over 8 years. How does it compare to Thailand now?

I read Phnom Pen is sad lately, as the missionaries have watered it down and closed the hotspots.

[QUOTE=Botaki]Mate,

I have some girls on cam which I met before or chatted up from 2matchu.com, Thye do their "private" shows for me occasionally as they hope I "support" them again once in AC.

I tried to log in to this asian-babes site. But I feel the prices of 100.-$ are outrageous. What is your expereince on this - cost vs peeping?[/QUOTE]I know some gurls, not from match2 u but from other sides, actually Im with one of them now, some of them look much better then bar gurls, some not...ask urself if Im a gurl in AC and Im working on a cam site, whats my intention?? its making money only without bum2, or some are looking for a sugar daddy..as of now Im quite ok with my gf as Im here in AC, but I also butterfly cause its alowed here, even my gf knows that. If you really serious to a gurl in cam, met her first , then met her family and then you can support her if you like, not before you met her in person and dont sent money!!sent gifts, sent load and most of all be patience!

Happy hunting!

thanks guys for your patronage, meanwhile I had many positive encounters with gurls here. LOL.

Just curious about 2 things.

There is one small place near ricks cafe, besides the german owned coffee shop with daily specials and sandwiches. Some gurls are there, but also some ugly pinoy guys. Maybe pimps hangin outside. Its always dark inside.

Any of youi guys went there? Looks like a scam place for me, or maybe blow job bar like santos? Any comment on this?

Another thing is the korean managed place near confetti, formerly cleopatra, the name is AGASI or something like that, it opens and close all the time.

I went there once and ask bou tthe barfine. They told me its 4250 pesos for koreans. So what is the prize for western guys. Maybe 1000 pesos? LOL. : ))

Just currious about the aditional 250 pesos hahahaha. Anybody of you guys went there and succeed? is it worth compared to other bars and if the barfine is reallly 4250 pesos I wonder if korean guys will longer go there. Just curious.

Happy hunting!

Hello,

Just went to the roman massage and tried also massage near Blue nile before, which says jakuzzi massage etc. I also know a place near the shell gas station along mcarthur highway goin to dau and one year before I went to the 24 hours massage along perimeter road upper fields.

Does anybody have info on other places compared to that places where I can choose the fishbowlstyle, similar to roman massage . Also some more beautiful gurls?? Any idea, please pm me also :)

Happy hunting!

[QUOTE=Blink157]
There is one small place near ricks cafe, besides the german owned coffee shop with daily specials and sandwiches. Some gurls are there, but also some ugly pinoy guys. Maybe pimps hangin outside. Its always dark inside. [/quote]

You mean that so called "WOW"?
It's a little bar where you can have drink and ST behind in a cubicle. 500ps per ST.
Once I had a BBBJ there, not bad, but nothing to shout about. Similar to those bars in Santos.

[quote]They told me its 4250 pesos for koreans. So what is the prize for western guys. Maybe 1000 pesos? LOL. : ))
Just currious about the aditional 250 pesos hahahaha.
[/QUOTE]

Additional 250???? For me it's additional 3250 or 3000.
Or have you ever paid 4000 somewhere? Then you're nicely conned.

Cheers!

I decided to try the cocktail lounge near dollhouse. Anybody has been there too?

It is just another short time bar with some nice looking girls. I saw one I like let s call her Jenny and she insists for 2 girls so I decided to take her friend as well let s call her Melody.

I ask all the basic questions BBBJ CIM girl to girl. They say OK to everything so I paid the 1000 pesos and the cashier said I can take them to my room for 2 hours.

Once in the room they take shower but when I ask for a girl to girl warm up they look surprised and said we don t do that. Then I am thinking shall I send them back to the bar?

Since they are beautiful I decided to give them another chance. I said OK but you stay for 2 hours even if I come already. Since I can come 2 times in 2 hours without problem. They said OK.

Then Jenny starts making problems and said she has to go home in 30 mn she has husband bla bla bla finally she agreed if I give her a tip I said why not but it depends on the service if you give good service no problem.

Melody start giving me a nice BJ while I start licking Jenny's pussy. Obviously she doesn t like it and she s trying not to enjoy. Then we swap I am licking Melody who enjoys much more and since we agreed on 2 hours I decided to cum in Jenny's mouth.

She didnt swallow of course but in the bar she said she did and she rushs to the shower to split.

Then she is taking her phone starts texting calling texting and I said to Melody what s happening to your friend? we are a team this is not finished OK?

So Melody talked to her friend and Jenny reluctantly went back to the bed. Then Melody start giving me BJ again and Jenny is lying on the bed withou any reaction on her face then I started getting pissed off the I said to Jenny ok you don't want to work you are making problems go back to the bar. I stay with Melody alone. Better one good than 2 bad ones right? so Jenny left

Melody starts BJ again then Jenny came back because she forgot her shoes and left. I told Melody let s have a shower so we can relax a little bit. In the shower it is getting warmer and I almost ready to put the condom when somebody knocks at the door again. It is the cashier who came back and told the girl she has to leave because I came already and my time is up already.

I said it is not true I still have 1 hour left and I agreed with the girls. Since the other one doesnt want to work I stayed with one only.

And I said I want my money back for Jenny and I will give a tip to Melody if I can finish what I was doing please!

The cashier said Jenny already worked you came already no refund nothing! even if Melody agreed with me and tried to take my defence there was no way the cashier or the manager will change her mind.

So it s up to you guys but if I were you I would avoid this bar at all costs because I think I was patient enough I made a deal and nobody gives a shit if the customer is satisfied or not. And I told her I will give bad report about your bar on internet and she said go for it.

That s why I am writing this!

You need to give the exact name of the place. Also, I don't understand your comment "let s call her Melody. " Give names. The purpose of this forum is to give correct information so we can all benefit.

We don't need clues, we need info.

[QUOTE=Dodomad]I decided to try the cocktail lounge near dollhouse. Anybody has been there too?

It is just another short time bar with some nice looking girls. I saw one I like let s call her Jenny and she insists for 2 girls so I decided to take her friend as well let s call her Melody.

I ask all the basic questions BBBJ CIM girl to girl. They say OK to everything so I paid the 1000 pesos and the cashier said I can take them to my room for 2 hours.

Once in the room they take shower but when I ask for a girl to girl warm up they look surprised and said we don t do that. Then I am thinking shall I send them back to the bar?

Since they are beautiful I decided to give them another chance. I said OK but you stay for 2 hours even if I come already. Since I can come 2 times in 2 hours without problem. They said OK.

Then Jenny starts making problems and said she has to go home in 30 mn she has husband bla bla bla finally she agreed if I give her a tip I said why not but it depends on the service if you give good service no problem.

Melody start giving me a nice BJ while I start licking Jenny's pussy. Obviously she doesn t like it and she s trying not to enjoy. Then we swap I am licking Melody who enjoys much more and since we agreed on 2 hours I decided to cum in Jenny's mouth.

She didnt swallow of course but in the bar she said she did and she rushs to the shower to split.

Then she is taking her phone starts texting calling texting and I said to Melody what s happening to your friend? we are a team this is not finished OK?

So Melody talked to her friend and Jenny reluctantly went back to the bed. Then Melody start giving me BJ again and Jenny is lying on the bed withou any reaction on her face then I started getting pissed off the I said to Jenny ok you don't want to work you are making problems go back to the bar. I stay with Melody alone. Better one good than 2 bad ones right? so Jenny left

Melody starts BJ again then Jenny came back because she forgot her shoes and left. I told Melody let s have a shower so we can relax a little bit. In the shower it is getting warmer and I almost ready to put the condom when somebody knocks at the door again. It is the cashier who came back and told the girl she has to leave because I came already and my time is up already.

I said it is not true I still have 1 hour left and I agreed with the girls. Since the other one doesnt want to work I stayed with one only.

And I said I want my money back for Jenny and I will give a tip to Melody if I can finish what I was doing please!

The cashier said Jenny already worked you came already no refund nothing! even if Melody agreed with me and tried to take my defence there was no way the cashier or the manager will change her mind.

So it s up to you guys but if I were you I would avoid this bar at all costs because I think I was patient enough I made a deal and nobody gives a shit if the customer is satisfied or not. And I told her I will give bad report about your bar on internet and she said go for it.

That s why I am writing this![/QUOTE]

Thanks for your report and your warning. I suppose it is all based on experience... However, for your report to be effective, do name the bar so that us mongers can mention this report when we go there. Just for a drink mind you to let them know we have heard the word, and they cant mess with us ;) Come on, lets get the power of the Internet working for us.

I don't know if this bar has a name!

It is written cocktail lounge on the outside

It is opposite the sexshop!

It is the only short time bar on fields avenue besides this german restaurant for the girls I just don't know the names because I didnt ask first

I could have called them girl 1 and 2!

You don't seem to understand, we need the names of the girls so anyone reading this forum knows who they are and to avoid them.

[QUOTE=Dodomad]I don't know if this bar has a name!

It is written cocktail lounge on the outside

It is opposite the sexshop!

It is the only short time bar on fields avenue besides this german restaurant for the girls I just don't know the names because I didnt ask first

I could have called them girl 1 and 2![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Billpsu]You don't seem to understand, we need the names of the girls so anyone reading this forum knows who they are and to avoid them.[/QUOTE]Its called the WOW Cocktail Lounge, and is past Dollhouse, past Rick's Cafe, at the end of that little "strip" right before the residential home opposite Subdelicious.

Although the bar is lower-rated than it's A.Santos Street counterparts, I think the other gentleman who posted his complaints was expecting way too much for a mere 500 peso per girl.

On second thought, 500 peso per girl from most established bars on A.Santos will grant you the girl for THREE hours, with no surprises of complaints.

Must be the Fields location has "poisoned" that WOW Cocktail Lounge. :-)

The girls pushing him to take two, could have been the first indication of a future service-incompatibility between them and that gentleman.

So guys what is the story behind AC? I have heard so much about the place, especially the big supply of fresh pussy. Is AC safe?

I am not really interested in bar girls but I am wonder if the girls outside of the bar, such as ones you meet in mall or coffee shop are totally safe to be around?

My friend who has been going to AC for something like 30 years mentioned that it is easy to pick up girls almost anywhere as they will approach you if interested. From that point, he said you can exchange numbers, maybe have lunch or dinner together, then invite the girl to your place for a fuck. Within a week, she is madly in love with (should I saw your wallet).

All my experiance comes from China where there is big difference between good girls and hookers. I understand in the Philippines it is simply harder to tell the difference because most girls do it to support their families. In China, mongering is safe provided you avoid any obvious traps and/or shady places.

[QUOTE=Ace of Spades]So guys what is the story behind AC? I have heard so much about the place, especially the big supply of fresh pussy. Is AC safe?

I am not really interested in bar girls but I am wonder if the girls outside of the bar, such as ones you meet in mall or coffee shop are totally safe to be around?

My friend who has been going to AC for something like 30 years mentioned that it is easy to pick up girls almost anywhere as they will approach you if interested. From that point, he said you can exchange numbers, maybe have lunch or dinner together, then invite the girl to your place for a fuck. Within a week, she is madly in love with (should I saw your wallet).

All my experiance comes from China where there is big difference between good girls and hookers. I understand in the Philippines it is simply harder to tell the difference because most girls do it to support their families. In China, mongering is safe provided you avoid any obvious traps and/or shady places.[/QUOTE]

Ace Of Spade

With the greatest of respect I would suggest you spend time and RTFF before posting a question. Much of the information contained here is accurate and up to date, I suggest you read it.

[QUOTE=Ace of Spades]Is AC safe?
[/quote]
Are you Singaporean? Just curious, it's a typical question of them.
[quote]I am not really interested in bar girls[/QUOTE]
I'm a bit afraid, for that case AC isn't your cup of tea. And outside girls who approach you directly are often bargirls having their off-day. So called "good girls" aren't that keen to be seen with a stranger around Balibago area. IMHO.

Cheers!

Ace,
I've been going to AC for years and years.

Most of the time (not all the time), but, it is a general rule to beware of the girls outside the bars. The reason, as Eskpat stated, that most of the girls there have been or are associated with bars. And quite often the girls who are not working have not passed their physical screening and don't have to permission to get back in the bar. Or, even worse, she was kicked out of working in the bar, and she's just hanging around looking to pick up some guy. In either case its not a good idea. If you are going to pick up girls, if you do it in the bar, at least you know that if there is a problem you can go back to the bar and have some form of complaint with Mamasan.

I would also suggest you not go to AC if are afraid of the bar girls. I would suggest you just stay in Manila, go to the malls, and meet plenty of girls there.
cheers,
Lalake

To be honest, I don't see the point with BAR FINES and/or LADIES DRINKS. In some ways, it seems such a waste of money, if done on a regularly basis. Short term seems ok, but long term it drains the PIGGY BANK big time I realize how cheap bar fines can be, (around 1200-1300 pesos, I gather from my research) but this add up over time and becomes costly.

Secondly, I see nothing wrong with finding a girl in a BAR and regularly patronizing her services BEFORE OR AFTER work. I typically will visit a brothel once or twice, find a girl I like, and then invite her for out-call service ROUTINELY and never return to the brothel. This way the BAR or BROTHEL does not GET any more of my money. I have found this approach often leads to good service at minimal cost, sometimes even free service. At some point, the girl will settle for food, and gifts instead of money. With a BAR always the uncertainty about whether the girl will be a RUNNER and simply make excuses to leave early.

Going to malls in search pussy sounds a bit unpredictable in the Philippines, No way to really know on face value whether the girl is a hooker or most importantly she is OVER 18. There should also be a clear distinction.

I agree girls OUTSIDE of the bar might be trouble for various reasons and she be avoided.


Ace

I am FROM SINGAPORE; I AM AFRICAN AMERICAN. So on the basis of my race alone, perhaps my experiences are different. Over the years, I have seen lots of foolishness in the Philippines and elsewhere with respect to bars. Sometimes girls don't like the thought of a HUGE BLACK DICK pumping their pussy. In such cases, the girl will not feel comfortable being around me in the bar, OR refuses service, OR if I do bar fine, she not let me touch her. This is one of the other reasons why I am not in BAR FINES. In short, it means I have to spend too much money in trying to get laid.

[QUOTE=Ace of Spades]I am FROM SINGAPORE; I AM AFRICAN AMERICAN. So on the basis of my race alone, perhaps my experiences are different. Over the years, I have seen lots of foolishness in the Philippines and elsewhere with respect to bars. Sometimes girls don't like the thought of a HUGE BLACK DICK pumping their pussy. In such cases, the girl will not feel comfortable being around me in the bar, OR refuses service, OR if I do bar fine, she not let me touch her. This is one of the other reasons why I am not in BAR FINES. In short, it means I have to spend too much money in trying to get laid.[/QUOTE]

[b]Ace of Spades[/b]

Obviously, you have not taken my advice here and [b]RTFF[/b] because if you had, you would not have spent time writing up your last post when you would have realised that Yes I am black and two AC is there because of the former Clarks Base that was located there so therefore most people are now used to seeing a black face around.

In the top end of Field Ave there are many former black Vets who now reside there, as its paradise to them (cheap to live and as much pussy as your dick can take). AC is not a metropolitan city like Manila it a dirt town at best so take Ekspat’s advice and don’t waste your time looking for day time action – there is nothing to do up there apart from [I]fuck[/I] in the morning, [I]fuck[/I] in the afternoon, [I]fuck[/I] in the evening and then [I]fuck[/I] all night. In between this you will of course wash, eat & consume large amounts of beer.

I am not sure what you mean about "bar fining girls and then them not letting you touch them"? (WTF?) I have recently read some dubious information about people’s recent experience here and do question how they let this happen. Because dude this is AC the girls know exactly what to expect, when they come up here, if that happens you simply march them back to the bar and change the girl - period! But I think you are a little confused about what to expect here maybe you have been too long in Singapore because if you know how to treat people right it can cost you next to nothing to get pussy here. I’ve had several girls for the price of a meal in Krung Thai, on Field Ave total for the night 700 Pesos and this girl was wild, waking me up in the night to initiate another session.

On Crime and Safety, [u]its as safe as you want it to be[/u] if you don’t do anything silly you will be OK, but read my [url=www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=383654&postcount=2]AC useful tips[/url]

Oh and I very much doubt your dick is bigger than mine, and I have never yet had one girl complaint about it yet, but if you do find such a girl – the beers are on me and I don’t expect to be getting my wallet out soon. :D


I suggest you read Steve Naïve updated guide to mongering in the capital because its useful also. [url=www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=421559&postcount=21] Steve’s Info[/url]


Enjoy :D

Hey Juniour, (or anyone for that matter),

It sounds like your have some expertise on the subject of AC and African Americans. I've never been to A/C before, but will be heading there in a few weeks time. I wonder if you or someone can tell me how to find ½ African American / ½ Philippino girls, attractive preferably. Are there any particular bars of hangout areas you know of. No, I haven’t read your required reading list yet but I have perused through some of this forum with not too much being revealed. I thought Id take the opportunity to tap into the wealth of knowledge I’m hoping you possess. Any assistance is appreciated.

THANKS for the reply Junior.


AC does sound like an interesting place. I have a trip in the works for APRIL/MAY because of a conference in Manila. This would be the oppourtune time to go see what AC is all about. I am not sure what to expect, but I will try to keep an open mind.

Junior, It is also nice to hear from other Blacks considering that the experiance for white guys IN ASIA is usually different, so I tend not to make generalizations based about their reports or experiances. I`Have you noticed a big difference between pilipina in their own country versus abroad? I have found outside their country, SUCH AS HONG KONG, KOREA, JAPAN, ETC.. color seems to matter for them AND THEY SEEM SO AFRAID OF BLACK MEN.

By the way I am fromNOT Singapore, IT WAS a typo, I am actually Canadian. I have not seen any black men here with filipina wives, filipina always always got white men.

I am willing to bet my dick is bigger, so the beer is on you. HAHAHA.

DACIA:

I have met several half black, half Pilipina on 2matchu.com over the past year or two- the chat room is where a lot of bar girls go after work. The board is not free anymore, so I would not bother getting a membership. I have been told there is a actual internet cafe where the girls can go and use the net for free for 1 hour CALLED 2MATCHU. This seems like the place where you can find them, apart from the bar itself.

JUNIOR:

I have been going to China too long where sometimes they are not used to see a BLACK guy. I have also been other places where pussy costs way more for less quality, like TAIWAN, JAPAN, etc..

I assume if a girl refuses to cooperate and you march her back to the bar, she does not get paid. The bar fine goes to another girl.

I am aware of the large number of Black guys who were in the Philippines and now still travel and live there because of the former military bases. I recently read something about DENNIS Rodman's father and all the women and children he got. I don't think there is anywhere else in the world where you can get pussy like that.

Junior, what is your stance on taking a girl out of the bar as a live in partner? In my other post, I mentioned about 2matchu. I have too many girls wanting me to take them out of the bar and support them and their kid. Some look really sweet and sincere, but I am doubtful. I have talked to some guys who have done this and things have worked out well provided the girl has not been in the bar too long, preferably if she is a cherry.

[quote=Dacia]
I wonder if you or someone can tell me how to find ½ African American / ½ Philippino girls, attractive preferably?
[/quote]

In answer to your question in finding mixed race girls – I suggest that you just hang out in [b]Kokomos[/b] because I know a couple that like hanging out there. However, if you are prepared to walk up and down Field’s Aves as the old saying goes “seek and you will find.”


[quote=Ace of Spade] Junior, what is your stance on taking a girl out of the bar as a live in partner?[/quote]

Your not the first person to have asked me this question, it the third time I have answered this via pm. That’s easy, providing you are staying in reasonable digs and I am not talking about the Hilton here, just any hotel will do; if you know how to treat the girls, you’ll soon be asking how to get rid of this girl. As long as you have some money in your pocket you will have no problem or you know how to treat them no problem.

I keep in touch with many girls, some who’ve work in AC, one of them is now located in Laguna and e-mails me once a week to ask when I am back in town so we can meet up.

Yes, in AC it’s a town where the bars change from week to week, and the bar owners know that guys come to AC for one thing and one thing only “[b]Sex[/b]” so bars which are ripping off guys fortunately don’t last too long because there are not that many dumb arsed guys keeping them in business. There is much more supply than there is demand for the girls. Most bars understand business is business and if they take on a girl who’s not delivering the business you can bet she’s soon be shown the door. Although, I have not seen it myself I have heard of [i]Mamasans[/i] laying into the girls who’ve try this bullshit, of not giving up the [i]putang[/i] whenever I have bar-find a girl the [i]mamasan[/i] usually spells out exactly what you’re getting and if the girl is Cherry-girl or on-the-rag you will be informed if you want to go continue with the transaction.

I know it sound harsh but if girls wanted to be sales girls or office girls they would not be coming up to AC, they’d stop in Manila, they come here and know exactly what they are getting into..

So what’s this a Canadian sometimes masquerading as a Singaporean? :D

I have attached pictures of one of the girls I am currently cyberdating. She claims to be 39 years old and has a couple of a children that her brother is taking care of them, while her job is a family secret. She comes online everyday night after work to chat with me, she seems so sweet and caring. She claims to have only been in the bar for a short time 1-2 and has not been bar fined, mostly because she is afraid to go out.

I won't say her name, or the bar she works at, but I guess you might be able tell which bar based on the background in one of the pictures.

Does she really look 39 years old? I don't believe it, she looks some what young, but certainly over 18 years old. In short, she is just looking for a man to take her out of the bar and support her. I made it clear to her I would not be bring her to my country or even marrying her. We play it by ear. Must better to have there

So far no money requests for a dying relative or money for tuition fees for her children.

Is this for real or is she just desperate?

[QUOTE=Ace of Spades]I have attached pictures of one of the girls I am currently cyberdating. She claims to be 39 years old and has a couple of a children that her brother is taking care of them, while her job is a family secret. She comes online everyday night after work to chat with me, she seems so sweet and caring. She claims to have only been in the bar for a short time 1-2 and has not been bar fined, mostly because she is afraid to go out.

I am surprised by what you wrote ???
Firstly have you ever been to philippines ? The reason i ask is why a girl so old as there are thousands in the twentys for a man like you ?

If she is 39 and working in a bar, do you realise that she would never get bar fined because the compertition with the younger girls is huge !

Secondly I don't know of any decent bars that would employ a woman of this age !! The only bar would be a local and a shit hole where the bar fine might be 200 pesos !

Angles city would have maybe 200 to 300 girls all below the age of 22,
ask your self these ??

Have fun but really think about going and seeing for yourself before you commit to her.

The photo's yes she could be 39 ! as filipino's age slowly, but when they get 50 well it speeds up really quick !!

Good luck!

Junior:

By the way, were you a member of 2matchu when it was free to chat? My name on there was BLACKMANFORY

There was a black filipina on there named Cooldivine, not sure her real name. According to my chats with her, she used to work in a bar, but now just tries to pick up guys on Fields Ave. Perhaps, she is a bar reject. She is always asking for money and makes up a lot of stories. One time she told me her kid, who's father is black (I have seen pictures of the kid and also saw the kid on cam) got bit by a dog with rabies and need medecine, true or untrue. The thing about this girl is that she looks black, does not look filipino at all. Also, she is not very pretty and does not take good care of herself- I am not knocking her color.

Can you also identify some other black guys on WSG who go to AC- perhaps you PM ME their details

I have been to the Philippines once before, I went to Manila, CEBU AND Davao city for a short time. I visited a couple of bars when I was not busy with work, nothing special in those places. I am not the expert on bars.

I am not comitted to this girl, she is only a chat mate, simply what I like to call entertainment. I asked some other friends of mine who have been going to AC for many years about the chances of a girl her age working in AC, they said it would be nearly impossible as the preference is for younger and more fresh girls.

I am going to cut this girl, I have feeling there is more to the story and she will only lead to trouble.

Hey Junior et all,

What are the current prices?

I was in Angeles in September and Junoir's suggesstions were everything that needed to be known.

I'n planning on being in town in April.

[QUOTE=Ace of Spades]

Does she really look 39 years old? I don't believe it, she looks some what young, but certainly over 18 years old. In short, she is just looking for a man to take her out of the bar and support her. [/QUOTE]

I would say she is both for real and desperate. She could be 39. If you look carefully at the second picture, she's wearing a ton of makeup and I would tend to believe her. No woman lies to make herself older! Maybe there's a picture in her attic just rotting away.

GE

[b] Ace of Spades[/b]

To be honest with you I have never used 2MatchU.com I have been going to the country for near on 18 years and when I first started corresponding it was by the old fashioned method of pen and paper. I could tell you a thousand stories of my experiences.

The problem with many of the Philippino girls on the dating sites is no matter what they tell you, most girls are usually corresponding with several people at any one time. OK I can’t blame the girls too much for doing this because many of the guys they correspond with also lie through their teeth, your know the type of stuff, “I love you, I’ll be there to see you next month” or “I will come and marry you and we can come back here (to my country) and live happily ever after”. I would estimate that only 15-20% of the guys that correspond with the girls actually go there to visit them. Hence that is why a majority of the guys [u]who do[/u] actually travel are quite old. I have many friends there who are always match making and fixing me up on dates, a Philippino national obsession amongst females.

I am not here to judge whether that female looks 30 or 40 its not a big deal if I was to offer one tip to you, I would say that girls who tend to have kids and are not too young and foolish tend to be most trustworthy, many of these younger girls can be trusted for about all of two minutes when they leave your room.

But its my opinion that inside of all Filippinas are all seeking their prince charming to take them away to a better life.

[quote=Genghois] What are the current prices? [/quote]

[b]Genghois[/b]

To be honest I have not read that the prices have varied that much, I was suppose to go there last November to see a couple of girls I keep in touch with, but after I had been travelling for several weeks I wasn’t that bothered to get over to see AC.

Junior:

The fact that young girls typically have many chatters really annoys me. So I don't bother with having any serious relationships on the net. Nice overall girls online seem far and few between, most seem like scammers. So far this has been my experience. I have met a few nice ones, but they are not really interested in a steady relationship or even sex period right now, instead they want to focus on their careers.

I have heard the same story before that the older women with children tend to be less foolish than the younger ones. I can't imagine the stress that some of girls have in having to support a baby back home in the provinces who's father is no where to found and there is no financial support for the baby. Younger ones might be able to get away with fooling around for a while, but I guess it all catches up with them when the chances of finding a husband decrease as they grow older.

I have a few things to say on this, but I think this topic would be better off in the Filipinas section. See you there.

X

What are the prices these days?

Well, I finally made it to the Philippines and, more importantly, Angeles.

My first score was at a bar called "The Classroom". There were quite a few nice girls there, but the one I want to write about is named Muricel. She came up to me very shyly, but we hit it off. After a ladies drink she was very interested in coming with me for the whole night. Barfine 1200/ladies drink 150.

As soon as she was dressed in street clothes, she was cuddling and giving me total GFE. We held hands to the Jeppneys, held each other to the hotel and relaxed together in the room for a small while. She was a little quiet but not in a bad way. Totally demure. I liked it. She loves to kiss and cuddle, but the nicest thing was her attitude and willingness to please me.

She went and had a shower, and then, after she got out, she gave me a massage that went from head to feet to hands. All down my back and along my legs and arms, then after asking me to turn over, she did the same for my front. She also did a wonderful scalp massage and temple massage. This lasted a full hour and 10 minutes. After we kissed and cuddled some more. Nothing. Absolutely nothing was hurried and I was able to set the pace for everything. She finally started stroking and then BBBJ slowly and teasingly. She got me to the edge, let me down, then to the edge again. Finally went for some DATY, and kissing her all over. Again, she was a little demure, and quiet, but totally willing to let me go everywhere. Finally began FS in Cowgirl and then missionary -- covered of course.

After cumming, we cuddled and talked and she was totally into GFE. We kissed, cuddled, and stroked for another hour until I got hard again. Went through all the same as above. Came again.

She stayed with me and held close, which I loved, and we fell asleep in each others arms. Around 3: 00 AM I woke up. Kissed her a couple times, and she began to wake up too. Again she was willing to cuddle, stroke and kiss, and she began giving me another massage. Full deal like before. Had to have gone 40 minutes and even when my eyes started fluttering to sleep a little, she kept massaging.

She got me hard again and we had a 3rd round. She was always open to my suggestions and needs.

Went to sleep in each others arms and slept till 10: 00. As we woke up, we went to round 4. All but FS. But the BBBJ was a good way to finish the experience.

I took her for breakfast (brunch), took her shopping after and she never asked for anything. I had to offer to buy her something. We parted at 1: 30.

Face - 7
Body - 7
Experience - 10

Definitely one who pleased me totally.

Korea

Returned from the AC a few days ago. Here are my observations.

1. From Manila airport, it took each way, about 1 hr. 45 minutes. Departure fee at airport is US$10.40. Long lines at departure area. Show up there 2.5-3 hours before flight leaves
2. AC is big city with Fields Ave being just a small part but probably only part you need to know.
3. Usual barfine is still 1200 peso, including for most of the dancers. Dancers are better looking but usually shy and inexperienced in bed. Take your pick, better and young body or slightly older but better f..k waitress and so on.
4. Wild Orchid Resort is a hotel better than anything else in AC.
5. You cannot bf girls from this hotel unless you intent to take them to another hotel to fuck.
6. Took mama (in her late 20's early 30's) from AM shift at Dollhouse. Gave her my name, hotel and room number. She showed up at 7:30PM after her shift (no barfine) and I had absolutely best sex of my life. Stayed overnight. No money involved but gave her generous tip.
7. Unless you absolutely dig the chick, do not let her hang out with you past 2PM or she will not leave you til you are getting into taxi for airport.
8. Dity Duck Bar- girls are very pushy and will demand money "for food or coffee." Hoever did have great time with a gal called Rachael.
9. Health test and age certificate are total sham. Be careful.
10. AC is best bang (pun intended) for your buck in the world.
11. A great palce to eat is across from the Casino. It is called Fortune. Graet deals on lobster and crabs. Hong Kong style.

Any questions, PM me.

Back from Philppines some almost a week, went to Angeles city, Manila and Subic.

Here some of my experience in Angeles city.

Barfine from 1000 to 1250 (executive club Blue Nile)

Bars for early afternoon fun are cherry club and stampede and some on upper fields..Illusion ( not my taste of gurls but friendly) also one bar near sun shine laundry, something with gentleman etc..good variety of gurls. Also lolipop bar and La bamba and 2 cute gurls found in welcome Inn.

Around 6 pm I often went to Roadhouse for snacks and happy hour, went there for the music and the nice dancing of the gurls, even they not my taste, it seems they have the same gurls since I been there first time ten years ago..hahahahaha..(but friendly service)

Champange has some new girls and pretty ones too.
Been to the newly opened disco behind the wild orchid inn, talk to 2 gurls, both refuse to go out with me, but one gave me her cellphone number and landline, but I never called her, to many girls who are willing to go when I wanted them to go..hehehe :))

Im a great fan of massages, that why I often went to Roman health massage, also because I have a steady gf and I dont want her come to my room when I was barfining a gurl, so I went there and tried out some gurls, always had gud experience, but dont look real hot, thas why Im looking for better places with better looking gurls next time when I go there, propably found in Manila, any PM on this topic..massage parlous are welcome :)

Great places for food are Brettos..upper fields avenue, he has restaurant now and C dining Italien cuisine, the chief is swiss italien and the food is great and also the ambiente, nice setting in the evening. Just before Brettos.

For accomondation I would like to make a suggestion for those guys who dont live at a budget when in AC and wanted to stay near the fields.

I ve been seeing the rooms in Blue Nile hotel, just oposite the Neros and Blue Nile bar, their standard room is 43 US, 2300 pesos, the room is nice decorated and furnished, but way to small. I sugest to take a look at the newly build APartelle A 7 just near the western union office at mc arthur highway at the end of fields. They have newly fine styled apartmemts from 40 to 50 US per night, discount is avaible for longer term. Those rooms are spacy,, have kittchen and bar, you just cross the streets and your are in fields. PM me if you like to have further info on that.

My other experience I post in the proper section Manila, Subic.

Looking forward to go back there soon, but 6 weeks wasnt to bad hahahahaha :))

Happy hunting :)

Any good golf clubs and what are the prices?

What's the deal with weed. I'm a Canadian in Korea, they think it is the same as cocaine or heroin here. I'm not a drug freak, just like the occassional joint. Pretty much legal in Canada, so pleas no lectures.

Hey guys,

Thanks for the feed back on where to find my special request in A/C. I’m so looking forward to getting there, I’ll see what I can do about photo feed back.
Speaking of A/C, I’ll be arriving at Manila airport on Saturday the 11th of Feb at 4:30 pm, on the off chance that anyone else is arriving at the same time and looking to share a cab to A/C just drop me a line ..(stranger things have happened)
Another question regarding taxis to A/C, where’s the best place to catch a cab that’s going to get me to A/C for P1200 to P1400? (as I have read) would that be the departure taxi rank same as Bangkok airport and is there any hidden extras they might try to spring on me like freeway tolls or who knows what they could try :-) The concierge at the Swagman when I rang told me they charge P2700 for driver pickup and I've read a taxi from the arrivals area will cost me about P2200 to P2500.. any advice / suggestions?

Thanks Guys,

Dacia.

[QUOTE=Dacia]Hey guys,

Thanks for the feed back on where to find my special request in A/C. I’m so looking forward to getting there, I’ll see what I can do about photo feed back.
Speaking of A/C, I’ll be arriving at Manila airport on Saturday the 11th of Feb at 4:30 pm, on the off chance that anyone else is arriving at the same time and looking to share a cab to A/C just drop me a line ..(stranger things have happened)
Another question regarding taxis to A/C, where’s the best place to catch a cab that’s going to get me to A/C for P1200 to P1400? (as I have read) would that be the departure taxi rank same as Bangkok airport and is there any hidden extras they might try to spring on me like freeway tolls or who knows what they could try :-) The concierge at the Swagman when I rang told me they charge P2700 for driver pickup and I've read a taxi from the arrivals area will cost me about P2200 to P2500.. any advice / suggestions?

Thanks Guys,

Dacia.[/QUOTE]This is what I always do when nobody pick me up up from airport.
I just ignore all the husslers when leaving the arrival hall, turn right and climb the small stairs up to the departure floor. Here you can pick up reasonable priced taxis with meter plus tip. Just asked them and if they refuse to put the meter on, ask another one.

As I can see , you will arrive at 4.30 pm, so you might finish immigration and get your baggage 5 pm or later. Thats the time in my experience when traffic picks up. So depending on your condition after the flight I suggest you ask the drivers straight bout fare to Angels city. If they refuse to accept the price, just get a cab to Swagmann hotel and take fly the bus at 8.30 pm to Angels city. Ticket is 500 pesos, fare to swagman about 80 to 100 pesos, time is 20 to 30 minutes , depends on the traffic on roxas.

The cheapest option would be, take a cab to MRT station in Manila, pay 20 pesos and get off at Cubao, climb donw the stairs and wave any bus to stop which says DAU (part of Angels city like Balibago or Mabalacat) Bus will cost you 90 to 110 pesos.
But I wont recommand that, cause its allready dark when you get off airport and I dont know how you feel, after a long flight I just wanted to go to my hotel, relax, takin a shower, have a nice meal and go see the ladys. You can also do that first day in Manila and then go to Ac with the 11.30 am bus from swagmann the next day :)
If more info on that pm me :)

Happy hunting

What's hapenning on the Weekend of Feb 17-19? I have been trying to book a room but all the good hotels are full.

I'm not sure if this is a good weekend for mongering. You know, high demand chasing scarce resources...

Tooch

[QUOTE=Tooch]What's hapenning on the Weekend of Feb 17-19? I have been trying to book a room but all the good hotels are full.

I'm not sure if this is a good weekend for mongering. You know, high demand chasing scarce resources...

Tooch[/QUOTE]IMO,

its the week after Valentines day and I know frm the past to avoid Manila during that time, erything is double price, much traffic and hotels fully booked.

Happy hunting!

[QUOTE=Tooch]What's hapenning on the Weekend of Feb 17-19? I have been trying to book a room but all the good hotels are full.

I'm not sure if this is a good weekend for mongering. You know, high demand chasing scarce resources...

Tooch[/QUOTE]

The better hotels are often full of late. That does not seem to affect the bar business though - always about the same number of mongers barhopping.

A different approach to going to Angeles from Manila might be to fly. I flew with Asian Spirit last week a return ticket cost 2100p incl all taxes etc. Only draw back limit of 10Kg per person for baggage excess charged at 10p per Kg yes 10peso a kg I had 6kg excess and was charged 72p 66p + vat.

You can book on the internet but cannot pay on internet.Also only 1 flight a day.

[QUOTE=Dacia]Hey guys,

Thanks for the feed back on where to find my special request in A/C. I’m so looking forward to getting there, I’ll see what I can do about photo feed back.
Speaking of A/C, I’ll be arriving at Manila airport on Saturday the 11th of Feb at 4:30 pm, on the off chance that anyone else is arriving at the same time and looking to share a cab to A/C just drop me a line ..(stranger things have happened)
Another question regarding taxis to A/C, where’s the best place to catch a cab that’s going to get me to A/C for P1200 to P1400? (as I have read) would that be the departure taxi rank same as Bangkok airport and is there any hidden extras they might try to spring on me like freeway tolls or who knows what they could try :-) The concierge at the Swagman when I rang told me they charge P2700 for driver pickup and I've read a taxi from the arrivals area will cost me about P2200 to P2500.. any advice / suggestions?

Thanks Guys,

Dacia.[/QUOTE]

1. All girls I had (eight) in AC like DATY, even inexperienced ones. 2. Most are not into BJ, covered or otherwise. 3. Most liked watching XXX movies and got glued to it, even though some started out slow. Wild Orchid has DVD players in rooms and you can borrow DVD from front desk. 4. All girls like to look into mirror, every few minutes in the hotelroom or whever they are. Same for watching themselves during sex.

Their website is [url]www.asianspirt.com[/url]. Their flights are on Tuesday, Thursdays and Saturdays and leave at 1330 hours or 1:30 pm.

Just spent 4 days in AC in end of Jan..2006. Some personal experience:

1. Hotels: America Hotel, not worth 1400 pesos for a dark and noisy room; inconvenient location: Eurphil, same price but with few clients and worse room; Kokomo’s , not my choice, just above the bar, I suppose too much noise; my choice is Marlim Mansion, offer pick up and transfer to Clark airport, 1440 pesos with American BF. for 2, sunny room with view of pool., on the Hi-way, easy to take Jeeps to go to town center , Dau or walk to Casino. or Fields, Discovery Motel, only 1000 pesos with 21” TV , cable and films.

2. Bars to avoid: Field Fun Club , next to hotel Natalia. Dishonest mamasa took me 1200 pesos and girl only stayed ST.

I have 2 weeks from mid Feb, and am thinking of Angeles, I. E. Over valentines period. While I have been to Angeles before, I have never been there over this period. What is the hotel situation like? Is it a busy period and are rooms hard to come by? Currently facing probs booking rooms there, and am not sure sure whether there is a hard sell over this period, or the town will, simply, just be busy. In which case, is there an alternative such as booking apartments and if so, is there anyone that can point me in the right direction? Any info would be appreciated.

Best place for the Super Bowl? Golf advice? Nobody responded about how easy it is to get weed - come on - private message me.

[QUOTE=Charles23]Just spent 4 days in AC in end of Jan..2006. Some personal experience:

1. Hotels: America Hotel, not worth 1400 pesos for a dark and noisy room; inconvenient location: Eurphil, same price but with few clients and worse room; Kokomo’s , not my choice, just above the bar, I suppose too much noise; my choice is Marlim Mansion, offer pick up and transfer to Clark airport, 1440 pesos with American BF. for 2, sunny room with view of pool., on the Hi-way, easy to take Jeeps to go to town center , Dau or walk to Casino. or Fields, Discovery Motel, only 1000 pesos with 21” TV , cable and film[/QUOTE]Agree with you on America hotel, really dont know why somebody stays there, europhil seems to be a little bit better and less expensive, problem in europhil is, since the owner left the hotel and stay always at his new resort in Zambales, the place went down, but its quiet. Thats a big plus.
I always stay in Woodland Park, cause its quiet and has a green setting, it was much better before, but they hired bakla waiters instead of the gurls so nobody comes there. Management is nice, but really dont like to change things. A discount can be given if paying cash. Pricerange from 1200 to 1600, aslo have apartments there and I think one of the biggest pool area in Angels city. Hourly shuttle service to fields.

Happy hunting!

Last June when I was in Angeles there were a lot of street sellers with Viagra. To me it looked like the real thing, has anyone actually purchased and tried this product? Is it the real thing? I'll be there in about 10 days and need to plan.
Thanks Guys.

Hey Primero,

Three days ago the Central Park Hotel still had bookings available for that time period and from what Ive read on this forum it sound like its OK. I must add that I only booked for two nights on the 11th and 12th so Im unsure about a two week booking but you might want to try them.

Central Park Hotel - Philippines
261 Real Street, Balibago, Angeles City 2009
Tel: 63 45 892-0256; 63 45 323-6845/6
Hotel cell phone: 63(0)9189080214
Fax: 63 45 892-5680
Website: [url]www.centralpark-ac.com[/url]
Email: [email]information@centralpark-ac.com[/email]

Why does anyone stay at America hotel?

I have my own complaints, but your's just sound like whining without any real info. It's a bit of a walk to the main nightl life area, but just a few steps from some daytime bars.

American Hotel service is not very good, and the restaurant offers so so food. The staff don't seem very happy. Chinese run, I've heard.

DarK? Well what room were you staying in? I guess back room. The balcony rooms overlooking the pool are nice.

Pool? Oh, that answeres the question right there. That's why I stay there!!! How many places have a pool? How often can you invite ladies to meet you in the daytime and ask them to bring their bikinis?

If you give a report give a little bit of information. Please.

X

[QUOTE=X Man]Why does anyone stay at America hotel?

I have my own complaints, but your's just sound like whining without any real info. It's a bit of a walk to the main nightl life area, but just a few steps from some daytime bars.

American Hotel service is not very good, and the restaurant offers so so food. The staff don't seem very happy. Chinese run, I've heard.

DarK? Well what room were you staying in? I guess back room. The balcony rooms overlooking the pool are nice.

Pool? Oh, that answeres the question right there. That's why I stay there!!! How many places have a pool? How often can you invite ladies to meet you in the daytime and ask them to bring their bikinis?

If you give a report give a little bit of information. Please.

X[/QUOTE]X man,

I stay always at woodland park, cause of its green settings and its kind of quiet, doesnt seen many guest there and have occasionally filipino weddings or bankets. Unfortunately the mngment doesnt want to improof things, but at least they are friendly and try to help if the customer is not satisfied.

The pool area is great and the pool has olympic size, ask some bargirls or mamasans, they used to go there for party at pool area, so you can also invite gurls there to have a party.

They will charge 100 pesos for non hotel guest and some expats go there on a saturday or sunday morning to swim and have a beer on the pool and have a piece of mind.

[url]http://www.woodland.ph/[/url]

Im not promoting the place and if you fine with the America hotel, why not, but I wont stay there.
I like also Dm Residente, good value for price, small swimming pool, but airy large rooms and good location.

[url]http://www.dmresidente.com.ph/default2.asp[/url]

Woodland park offers hourly shuttle service from 3pm to 11pm to fields. From DM Residente you can walk to the action. Central park looks also nice and I think also gud value for money.

I worked and travelled four years in SEA and middle east, two years for a swissbased bookingengine related to the hotelindustry.

Any help on hotelinfo, just pm me and I try to help.

Happy hunting and a nice to you X man and all the other fellow contributers to this forum. :)

Thanks for the info Blink. I've heard about the large pool at Woodland, but never stayed there because of the location. I prefer to be able to walk to my destinations. Nevertheless, I should check it out one of these days.

X

I managed to reserve accomodation at the Amsterdam in the end. Am looking forward to getting there!

This might get asked a bit, but what's the cheapest way to get from a hotel in Balibago to the CLARK airport? I had the hotel get a (car) taxi to pick me up last time and the trip cost P400. The airport was just getting started up at the time, but it seemed like quite a bit to pay, even more than the Manila taxi mafia charges to go from NAIA to Manila. I will have a backpack and a carry-on, so I could even buy 2 seats on a jeepney if there is such a service. Any tips appreciated.

[QUOTE=ploughman]This might get asked a bit, but what's the cheapest way to get from a hotel in Balibago to the CLARK airport? [/QUOTE]

Get near the maingate, where the jeepney station is. Take route #1, then you are within 30minutes outside the airport, but you still have to walk in a few hundred meters.
It's 10 Pesos.

[QUOTE=Fred C Dobbs]Their website is [url]www.asianspirit.com[/url]. Their flights are on Tuesday, Thursdays and Saturdays and leave at 1330 hours or 1:30 pm.[/QUOTE]

So it looks like.
Cheers!

BANKS
This one is a sore point for me. In an area like Fields, which caters purely to mongers, why oh why the f*ck are there no ATMs? You have to walk several blocks along the main drag (not sure what it’s called as there are no street signs) to find an ATM, and then the limit is only 4,000 PHP. That is one day’s spending money. If your bank charges a per-transaction international service fee like mine does, then this seriously devalues the money that you withdraw. Conclusion: Withdraw your entire Angeles budget in Manila before you come to Angeles. Go to the HSBC in Robinson’s Mall (Malate) for example, and you can withdraw up to 20k at a time.

HOTELS
It is hard to book a room right now. There are thousands of girls on Fields, and too few hotels to accommodate the guys that come to see them. I am staying at the Central Park for 29 USD per night. An adequate room, I suppose, but they shut off the hot water in my wing of the hotel on two consecutive nights, offering the explanation that the plumber had “forgotten” to turn it back on after repairs. Very disorganized. The staff is friendly enough though, if not somewhat unaware that nothing wrecks a monger’s mood at 2 in the morning more than a cold shower.

FOOD
I believe in eating well, and that is virtually impossible here. I try to stick to a diet that consists of lean meat, lots of green veggies, and fruit. The only fare that you can find along Fields is the typical burgers, pizza, ribs, and similar trash food. I guess that this is the by-product of a strong American influence here. They guys that have been to Thailand, and who appreciate good and healthy food, will find this frustrating. There are some good restaurants as posted by Normang back in October of 2005, but they all seem to be a 20-minute Jeepney ride away. And as for the Filipino food, I’ll pass, thanks. It is all rich, fried, bland, and designed to turn you into a lard-ass.

BAR GIRLS
The ratio of girls to guys in bars is often 10 or 15 to one. No joke. So far I have tried 3 bar girls while in Angeles. My expectations from all of my reading here is that they would be more sweet and GFE than their Thai counterparts. I found it to be the opposite so far. All three girls were pretty enough, and showed a lot of promise in the bar, but back in the room they were completely clueless as to all things sexual. One from Caddy Shack even used the line, “Hurry up and come”. She should move to North America, she would fit right in. Maybe I need to increase my sample size, but thus far I am unimpressed with the sexuality of the girls here.

GIRL FRIENDS
Met my first chat room cutie in Manila shortly after arrival. Two of the most memorable days and nights of my life, loaded with passion. Mind you, I had to teach her everything. She was sexually clueless, but thankfully she was a quick learner. I have more of the same in store in Cebu, and am looking forward to arriving there shortly.

GYMS
There are no gyms in the immediate Fields area that I could find. The AC1 gym on Friendship Highway is an OK gym, for 150 PHP per day. The owner is a real nice guy, and even offered a ride back to Fields after my first workout there. Be warned, if you take Jeepney, it will be a 30 minute trip each way, so plan your day accordingly. Go for an early-afternoon workout. Take along a spare shirt so that you can freshen up after the workout. Stop by at one of the Perimeter bars on your way back to Fields, and have a drink at Caddy Shack or Cherry’s (clusters of bars around these two, by the way). Oh, and try to make a better choice of girls than I did, OK? (see Bar Girls above)

CONCLUSION
I may be more of a Pattaya guy than an Angeles guy. Pattaya is much easier for me to travel to. The food is WAY better there, and I have better success with getting girls who really know how to have fun in bed and out. There is an adequate number of gyms in Pattaya, and you can find other things to do during the day than just f*ck. I know that it has been said before, but I think that it bears repeating. ANGELES IS ONLY FOR HARDCORE MONGERS. There is almost nothing else to do here. And one more point before closing. For you guys who have been to Pattaya and are wondering what Angeles is like, just imagine this. You know how dirty and chaotic Pattaya seemed the first time that you saw it? Well take that vision of filth and multiply times 10. Welcome to Angeles.

Raz

[QUOTE=RasSpewtin]BANKS
This one is a sore point for me. In an area like Fields, which caters purely to mongers, why oh why the f*ck are there no ATMs? You have to walk several blocks along the main drag (not sure what it’s called as there are no street signs) to find an ATM, and then the limit is only 4,000 PHP. That is one day’s spending money. If your bank charges a per-transaction international service fee like mine does, then this seriously devalues the money that you withdraw. Conclusion: Withdraw your entire Angeles budget in Manila before you come to Angeles. Go to the HSBC in Robinson’s Mall (Malate) for example, and you can withdraw up to 20k at a time.WE HAVE ATMS EVERYWHERE AS WELL AS CITIBANK,HSBC,STANDARD CHARTERED BANK ETC

HOTELS
It is hard to book a room right now. There are thousands of girls on Fields, and too few hotels to accommodate the guys that come to see them. I am staying at the Central Park for 29 USD per night. An adequate room, I suppose, but they shut off the hot water in my wing of the hotel on two consecutive nights, offering the explanation that the plumber had “forgotten” to turn it back on after repairs. Very disorganized. The staff is friendly enough though, if not somewhat unaware that nothing wrecks a monger’s mood at 2 in the morning more than a cold shower.WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF HOTEL ROOMS FROM 5 STAR TO PENSION HOUSES

FOOD
I believe in eating well, and that is virtually impossible here. I try to stick to a diet that consists of lean meat, lots of green veggies, and fruit. The only fare that you can find along Fields is the typical burgers, pizza, ribs, and similar trash food. I guess that this is the by-product of a strong American influence here. They guys that have been to Thailand, and who appreciate good and healthy food, will find this frustrating. There are some good restaurants as posted by Normang back in October of 2005, but they all seem to be a 20-minute Jeepney ride away. And as for the Filipino food, I’ll pass, thanks. It is all rich, fried, bland, and designed to turn you into a lard-ass.WE HAVE KOREAN,JAPANESE,LOTS OF ITALIAN ,FRENCH,GERMAN,THAI........

BAR GIRLS
The ratio of girls to guys in bars is often 10 or 15 to one. No joke. So far I have tried 3 bar girls while in Angeles. My expectations from all of my reading here is that they would be more sweet and GFE than their Thai counterparts. I found it to be the opposite so far. All three girls were pretty enough, and showed a lot of promise in the bar, but back in the room they were completely clueless as to all things sexual. One from Caddy Shack even used the line, “Hurry up and come”. She should move to North America, she would fit right in. Maybe I need to increase my sample size, but thus far I am unimpressed with the sexuality of the girls here.CEBU GIRLS ARE FRIENDLIER AND ARE NOT AS HARDENED AS AC GIRLS

GIRL FRIENDS
Met my first chat room cutie in Manila shortly after arrival. Two of the most memorable days and nights of my life, loaded with passion. Mind you, I had to teach her everything. She was sexually clueless, but thankfully she was a quick learner. I have more of the same in store in Cebu, and am looking forward to arriving there shortly.

GYMS
There are no gyms in the immediate Fields area that I could find. The AC1 gym on Friendship Highway is an OK gym, for 150 PHP per day. The owner is a real nice guy, and even offered a ride back to Fields after my first workout there. Be warned, if you take Jeepney, it will be a 30 minute trip each way, so plan your day accordingly. Go for an early-afternoon workout. Take along a spare shirt so that you can freshen up after the workout. Stop by at one of the Perimeter bars on your way back to Fields, and have a drink at Caddy Shack or Cherry’s (clusters of bars around these two, by the way). Oh, and try to make a better choice of girls than I did, OK? (see Bar Girls above)

CONCLUSION
I may be more of a Pattaya guy than an Angeles guy. Pattaya is much easier for me to travel to. The food is WAY better there, and I have better success with getting girls who really know how to have fun in bed and out. There is an adequate number of gyms in Pattaya, and you can find other things to do during the day than just f*ck. I know that it has been said before, but I think that it bears repeating. ANGELES IS ONLY FOR HARDCORE MONGERS. There is almost nothing else to do here. And one more point before closing. For you guys who have been to Pattaya and are wondering what Angeles is like, just imagine this. You know how dirty and chaotic Pattaya seemed the first time that you saw it? Well take that vision of filth and multiply times 10. Welcome to Angeles.

Raz[/QUOTE]
Raz
Now you know Why I live in Cebu and GE lives in Davao.Hope you have better luck in Cebu

[QUOTE=RasSpewtin]BANKS

This one is a sore point for me. In an area like Fields, which caters purely to mongers, why oh why the f*ck are there no ATMs? You have to walk several blocks along the main drag (not sure what it’s called as there are no street signs) to find an ATM, and then the limit is only 4,000 PHP. That is one day’s spending money. If your bank charges a per-transaction international service fee like mine does, then this seriously devalues the money that you withdraw. Conclusion: Withdraw your entire Angeles budget in Manila before you come to Angeles. Go to the HSBC in Robinson’s Mall (Malate) for example, and you can withdraw up to 20k at a time.

BAR GIRLS

The ratio of girls to guys in bars is often 10 or 15 to one. No joke. So far I have tried 3 bar girls while in Angeles. My expectations from all of my reading here is that they would be more sweet and GFE than their Thai counterparts. I found it to be the opposite so far. All three girls were pretty enough, and showed a lot of promise in the bar, but back in the room they were completely clueless as to all things sexual. One from Caddy Shack even used the line, “Hurry up and come”. She should move to North America, she would fit right in. Maybe I need to increase my sample size, but thus far I am unimpressed with the sexuality of the girls here.

GIRL FRIENDS
Met my first chat room cutie in Manila shortly after arrival. Two of the most memorable days and nights of my life, loaded with passion. Mind you, I had to teach her everything. She was sexually clueless, but thankfully she was a quick learner. I have more of the same in store in Cebu, and am looking forward to arriving there shortly.

Raz[/QUOTE]ATM can be found at BPI bank along Mcarthur highway, one is oposite Savers Mall, the other is the other direction going to Dau, Mabalacat where I always go cause its near Woodland park resort. Landmark is pure gold a super market, its just oposite. You can draw 10 000 pesos, maybe 20 000 is also possible.

I know that thai gurls, specially gurls work in a bar are much more prettier then in AC in general, IM also a picky guy and when I went to bar in BKK I found 3 or 4 gurls in one bar who are 100 % my type of gurls, in AC I have to visit much more bars. WHen I went to Edsa I also found the gurls much more beautiful then in AC, but prices are different, same as in Thailand.

SOme of the girls in AC (not all) had the attitude (specially those from Neros/Blue NIle) to go short time or to resist give bj or bbj, cause they "dont do it at the first time" only if u take them the secound time, the will be a better service to you. Well, I didnt take them the secound time, to be honest, so I dont know if they keep their promise.

On the other hand I barfined girls, which wont leave my room unless I have to kick them out LOL. In a nice way of course.

I visiting AC since ten years and I have to see that it was way better in the 95/96. Its still good and I will always go there, but I will have a gf and try the bars just for fun, which I did on my last trip. I took 2 gurls out of cherry bar, one was cherry, but hot. The other one was a "normal gurl" she didnt went with me barfine for the first time I went there, she gave me her number. I was long enough in AC, so I took her friend for barfine next time and let her txt me 3 weeks, before I went back there and barfined her, she was so hot. I think thats the best way, let the gurl txt you. Ignore her, to many gurls there, if she don't like to go with you, 2 or 3 gurls in another spot will definetly.

Good thing to make contact on ym to some gurls, before you plan to go there. SO you have to do something at daytime and to be honest, some of the bargurls I don't wana invite for dinner or so, so its better to have a non or half pro you can take out to the malls, cinema or candle light dinner.

Happy hunting!!

Blink157

I had a night in Angeles and went to Flamingo Bar (Same owner as Classroom2, but that one was boring). There was quite a hot party going on. One girls showing splits completely nude, or another one jumping on the bar and let some customer eat her pussy. All others cheering. Good fun. I was sitting with a nice waitress to talk to (I couldn't take out a girl since I was not travelling alone)

[QUOTE=Blink157]X man,

I stay always at woodland park, cause of its green settings and its kind of quiet, doesnt seen many guest there and have occasionally filipino weddings or bankets. Unfortunately the mngment doesnt want to improof things, but at least they are friendly and try to help if the customer is not satisfied.

The pool area is great and the pool has olympic size, ask some bargirls or mamasans, they used to go there for party at pool area, so you can also invite gurls there to have a party.

Thanks for your suggestion.

I will definately try woodland in my next stay. I don't like staying in the Field Area because there is always a big risk of any. Unfortunately happenings in area of this nature. It is the area to pick up but not to stay.

I also think staff are not happy or friendly in America (because they are always full?) I asked for a safe box and they told me all full. Only after my insistence and asked to talk to manager, they agreed to keep my envelope for me.

As to girls in AC, the quality is not good. There are plenty of girls but difficult to find a good one, not even 1 out 10.

But it is good place to relax

[QUOTE=ploughman]This might get asked a bit, but what's the cheapest way to get from a hotel in Balibago to the CLARK airport? I had the hotel get a (car) taxi to pick me up last time and the trip cost P400. The airport was just getting started up at the time, but it seemed like quite a bit to pay, even more than the Manila taxi mafia charges to go from NAIA to Manila. I will have a backpack and a carry-on, so I could even buy 2 seats on a jeepney if there is such a service. Any tips appreciated.[/QUOTE]I suppose you can try Manlim Mansion, they promised to give me a free pick up the next time I go there.

Well, for the second time in a row I was so well-served in Manila that I didn't get out to Angeles until right before heading out of the country (from Clark). That would have been unimaginable 10 years ago - Manila taking away time from Angeles. But Manila has improved tremendously with the Baywalk, street lights, Robinson's Place, etc., to where having so much easy access to restaurants, shopping, movies and other activities during the day gives it an advantage there. So it comes dowm to whether the girls can keep you happy, and one in particular was able to (4 all-nights at P1,200 each).

Anyway, by the time I got to Angeles I had one night left and was totally shot out, so I just made the rounds in the name of science. Here are the most common prices I found. Some bars vary by a bit, but I'm trying to hit the most common:

Happy hour drink: P50

Regular drink: P85

Lady drink: P150 (cola) - 250

Barfine: P1,200

To answer my own question, I see there's a car-taxi stand at the new jeepney center; if you go there they'll quote P200 or 250 (if tehy se you have luggage) to Clark airport. Versus P400 typically if they come pick you up at your hotel.

I think one important aspect of the Pattaya vs. Angeles debate that doesn't get mentioned enough i how the hunting styles differ because the venues do. I'm no great fan of Pattaya's beer bar format because it makes things very hard on you if you're selective and want to scan through a lot of girls. All the bars are trying to get you to sit down and order a drink when you just wish they'd shut up and ignore you so you can zoom in on a mark. If the mark doesn't work out (or, worse, is a "bait" girl like some on soi 7), you're usually down a customer drink and have to repeat the process. It seems designed for sociable European drunks with the whole day to kill and nothing better to do.

I find go-gos like in Angeles more efficient. More girls, sometimes the mamasans are helpful, and good pricing. (Pattaya also has go-gos, but without much price advantage over Bangkok and quite a bit more expensive as an option). In Pattaya it's a huge advantage to stay around long enough to get cell numbers and maybe even door knocks rather than having to go round 'em up yourself. Sometimes the residents there forget that the sort-term visitors don't get those kinds of options.

AC is hopping! There is a party at the Fontana Resort (I think that is the name). Anyway, the casino owner brought in Jackie Chan and dozens of other Chinese celebrities in for a promotional party.

Alrighty, well I made it here to Angeles City this afternoon. This is my first time visiting the PI. From what I read flying into Clark is the way to go if you can swing it. I think it was about a 10 min ride from the terminal to the door of my hotel. I have to say the Royal Amsterdamn Hotel is pretty decent place. The rooms are large and even though I was not able to book a jaccuzzi suite I feel satisfied with the furnishings.

Ok, so after arriving and taking a short nap and shower I hit the streets to see what there was to find. It is definetly different then Pattaya or Bangkok! So, I tried a couple of clubs the Dirty Duck....girls not much to look at but a couple of waitress' were decent looking. Headed on over to Bedrock and it was a little better. I was debating on trying out the Blue Nile but seemed like I remember reading some negative reports so I opted to head back the way I came and got talked into the Cambodia Club. The club was pretty warm inside...(maybe to make you drink more). Again not much to choose from however I struck up a decent conversation with an older waitress. Given the advice I had received that they might actually be better then younger. Her name was Josey or something like that. Had a decent body for her age and having had 2 kids there were no stretch marks. Her performance was pretty standard. However I made a rookie mistake here in AC even though I read it and just didn't think it would happen to me. Well, she pulled to old I don't do BJ and her p**sy hurt to bad after one time that she want to just talk and then sleep and maybe see about doing it in the morning. Well, as you can see it is a little about 1:30 AM here and I am typing this cause I kicked her out with no tip. So, I am heading out the door now to see what I can find to tide me over for the remainder of the night.

Wish me luck!
Rob

Decided to visit Brown Sugar last night. Picked up a cute little waitress names Marical. She was a sweetie and she had some very nice size tits on her. Service was pretty decent with a great massage to get things started. Nice BBBJ and the sex was good. I would recommend this 21 yr old to others if you want a GFE.

I am finishing up my short stay and back to Singapore for an overnighter then off to Bangkok. I have to say AC is ok but I still prefer Pattaya over AC even with the language difficulties. But again that just my opinion.

Happy Mongering,
Rob

PS Bar Fine was 1200 Peso's forgot to mention in the other report as well.

Roaming Rob,

I'm in Angeles now, I have never liked Cambodia, i have had two non performers from there and it seems it just isnt me from your report. I wont go back there last time after i touched the dancers tits and she told me quite explicit "Don't touch my susu's". that was a couple of years ago now.

Well, there are some bars where the managers create a bad atmosphere (with the girls for example) and you can expect it to often be unpleasant.

But....Just to have a girl ask you not to grab her tits isn't really a good reason to slam a bar. I'll assume you have some other complaints.

To be honest, I find the bars are different almost every time I visit AC, and sometimes every time I visit the bar. ANy review is almost out of date at the end of that night.

X

Funny,

On my last trip to AC I bf a good looking waitress from Cabodia, she let me do things to her I would not do to a barn animal. She was great.

Problem was, the 2nd bf she acted like we were married - she was terrible. So, it shows to go you.




[QUOTE=X Man]Well, there are some bars where the managers create a bad atmosphere (with the girls for example) and you can expect it to often be unpleasant.

But....Just to have a girl ask you not to grab her tits isn't really a good reason to slam a bar. I'll assume you have some other complaints.

To be honest, I find the bars are different almost every time I visit AC, and sometimes every time I visit the bar. ANy review is almost out of date at the end of that night.

X[/QUOTE]

Just as a warning - took a fantastic looking girl out from Bedrock last night who had only just started work in the bar that day, but two problems:

1) AFTER I paid the bar fine the mamasan said sorry, only three hours because I took her out early (7:00PM).
2) Elaine was a real problem. Took a lot of effort to get into her pants. Although worked hard at getting her to wet - proved impossible. Unresponsive.

If you go to bedrock: avoid Elaine. There are other good looking girls there, but watch out for the mamasan who imposes stupid rules on the girls who appear to fear her. Best advice, check out the other bars. If you do barfine from there, say it repeditively : ALL NIGHT or NOTHING.

The mamasan is probably trying to barfine the best looking girls twice in one night - probably earning herself a commission on barfines.

[QUOTE=Fastpiston]Just as a warning - took a fantastic looking girl out from Bedrock last night who had only just started work in the bar that day, but two problems:

1) AFTER I paid the bar fine the mamasan said sorry, only three hours because I took her out early (7:00PM).
2) Elaine was a real problem. Took a lot of effort to get into her pants. Although worked hard at getting her to wet - proved impossible. Unresponsive.

If you go to bedrock: avoid Elaine. There are other good looking girls there, but watch out for the mamasan who imposes stupid rules on the girls who appear to fear her. Best advice, check out the other bars. If you do barfine from there, say it repeditively : ALL NIGHT or NOTHING.

The mamasan is probably trying to barfine the best looking girls twice in one night - probably earning herself a commission on barfines.[/QUOTE]

I would have told mama "no deal" and gotten my refund. Long time is long time.

Flu in yesterday from the NW on EVA Air. Great flight,cause I took a sleeping pill which provided me about 6 hours sleep,service is exceptional and the price is good too. Had a driver meet me at NAIA at 11:50am. We left Manila and headed to AC. After a long ride ,due to heavy traffic, we finally made it to The RAH on fields. Got checked in and went to get my tickets to Baguio for Wed. as I'm headed to Ilocos Sur and then to Cebu City,Bangkok and the Dominican Republic. Anyway last night I was out makin' the rounds, you know, Champagne club, Lancelot, Road House etc.I heard at Champage from the mamasan that many of the dancers and the main mamasan have moved over to Camelot to try and build the business there.

Well, I was a little reluctant to go over there because of a dancer that I met last year whom I was told was working there now. But hey, by this time I've already had 4 or 5 five San Miguels and I thru all caution to the wind. Good call on my part. She was there and did she look fine. Last year she had just started working and was not open to BJ's, she had just turned 18. The other reason I didn't want to see her was that she was way too seriuos about me. I mean the day after I met her last year and didn't barfine her, she calls me up at 9:00am and is in my bed a 9:30. Man the girl was super super tight, and I didn't bring my shoehorn.She hung with me for the next 2 days and even barfined herself for me one night. But like I said, she didn't do BJ's. But last night she did everything to perfection and what a tight body, no fat whatsoever, hard as a rock. What a difference 8 months working in AC will make!

Well my brothers, I gotta go rest up for tonite!!!

Did the usual daytime things, i.e. wait for sunset! Was surprised to see half of santos ave. gone to make way for newer and better hotels. I can't really "get into" those funky funky back rooms, I prefer Lolitas in BKK, but the seed and the pure carnality of it all is kind of compelling.

Once darkness arrived and the neon started glowing ,it was time for round two on fields. Headed over to cambodia to check it out about 7pm. I was the only customer so I had all those ugly girls to myself...actually there was one fine little hottie but I passed after 1 SM and went to the blue nile. More customers in here and also more ugly girls, just kidding, I did see a couple of shot girls who looked interesting. Got bored and headed up to classroom 2. Now these girls get nasty on stage and the hip hop is play'n loud.

Now I'm at camelot again and the girl I know is sitting with someone but sees me and excuses herself, sorry dude. Anyway she and three of her friends sit down and I'm thinking, now how do I turn this into a 2 BG night. Well, I know that the BG from last night is good friends with the finer of the two other girls so maybe she'll go for it. After a while the mamasan comes over and buys me a drink cause the some there someone who wants to sit with the BG from last night, I say ok she leaves and the girls are all over my lap and talkin sh@#.

After about 10 minutes I'm getting bored and ask the fine one if she want to give me a BJ while I doin' her friend . She says yeah but the girls from last night is her best friend and she doesn't think she will allow it. 15 min go by and she still isn't back so I tell #2 to go pull a girl of the stage that has been eyeing us. She bgings her over and I say how about #2 giving me a BJ while I doin' #3 she says ok but #1 won't like it and shes my friend. I say go tell her and she walks over to her whispers in her ear and #1 glares back at me like"what the #$@@ you doin' here MF. She heads over and sits back down and I guess the deal is off. Well we end up back in the room cause I leave Clark for baguio at 7:30am. All was good she gave the one of the best nights in PI.

It's been a long time since I've visited WSG. I'm now living in the province of Biliran, near Leyte. I am however going to be in AC April 2-3 and hope to get enough action to warrent a decent report. No, I'm not married, but do live with the pamily. Quit my job, sold the house, and now living the dream. But that's another story...

Bud

[QUOTE=mongering1]It's been a long time since I've visited WSG. I'm now living in the province of Biliran, near Leyte. I am however going to be in AC April 2-3 and hope to get enough action to warrent a decent report. No, I'm not married, but do live with the pamily. Quit my job, sold the house, and now living the dream. But that's another story...

Bud[/QUOTE]

Mongering1,

I'll be around AC during that time frame. Be glad to buy you a drink or three if your around.

Yella Man

Well on wed. I flew into Baguio and picked up a car, met my driver and headed to Ilocos Sur to take care of some personal business. On friday I headed back to Baguio jumped on a plane to Manila then to Cebu. I arrived around 3pm. I guess I need to do this in the Cebu section.

Beware of Angeles City Chat room girl, there is a house full of girl who scam alot of guys and some girls in there chat rooms!

One girl is name Yolanda Dublin!! she is a supervisor and some times works in the room as SexControl69, she is currently being supported by one guy but keeps on scamming guys for money and gifts.

The house is operated by an American expat !! who she sleeps with unknow to her boyfriend!!! just to hve the supervisors job. the house is located at 6081 bayabas st.dau homesite mabalacat pampanga angeles city.

They also have a web site where you can see all the girls working in the house, the link is [url]http://www.geocities.com/angelescity_cybersex_girlz/SAMAR_MAFIA.html[/url]

Arrive to AC by taxi. Damage=2200Php. Checked in at the Orchid Inn resort. Second time around, Damage=$45. Nice hotel with nice pool and grounds, Staff is helpful and friendly. Went to the Central Park hotel to meet with one of my pen-pals, which I met by looking at the central Park hotel website. What a cute. I brought her some chocolates, a t-shirt, and a few smaller sourvenirs items from Canada and she was happy. Had lunch there and we socializade a little bit. She was off at 3: 00pm. So we made arrangement to see each other them. I came back to pick her up, and left the hotel under the envious eyes of her co-workers. WE end up at my hotel, and spend the afternoon by the pool. She was a decent girl, so I wasn't able to get her into the room for some LTC. Oh, well, win some loose some. We departed in friendly terms. Maybe some day, I can get sweet tasting fruit from the seed that I have planted. End up the rest of the afternoon flirting with some cute girls by the pool, and with a nice looking door girl from the Flamingo club, which is inside the Orchid Inn resort. Had some prawns coctails at the hotel, which were very good. In the evening went out to the differenet venues, brown sugar, angelwitch, camelot, Las vegas, Geckos, insommia, La bamba, to name a few. End up BF a girl from La Bamba. I should have followed my gut instint, but the booze and her looks, made me think otherwise. We went for dinner, and things seemed to be ok, but not a GFE. At the hotel, things did not go well. No kissing, no BJ, no daty. At this point I am having a hard time getting an erection, but managed to get one, and put on a rubber. After insertion, this girl is as close as you can get to a real starfish. Needless to say, I lost my erection again, to never recover. I just told her to get dress and I got dress. I walked her to the door, and we did not even say goodbye. What a pity. Lesson learned: always follow your gut instinct. Spend the rest of the night from bar to bar, and end up having a pretty good evening at Camelots, which is my favorite bar due to space, and to lighting. Back at the Orchid Inn, end up going to the Flamingo Club. Had some drinks, with the mamasan and some of the waitresses, and end up hooking up, with the door girl, whom I had seen in the afternoon by the pool. Bf her for 1200Php. WE went to Brown sugar, which is one of the clubs which is open until 5: 00am. We had a good time. Back at the hotel, we showered together and did some DFK. I just love kissing a girl under the shower and exploring every hole. We end up in bed for some LTC. She had beautiful feet, and a beautiful ass hole. I ate both of them and I was in paradise. She curled her toes when she came. A+.

As I said before, you win some and you loose some. I end up winning. I gave her 1000Php the morning after as I was feeling generous, and because she made me feel good again. Damage=1000Php.

Life is good,

Avioneto

[QUOTE=Juniour]

Oh and I very much doubt your dick is bigger than mine, and I have never yet had one girl complaint about it yet, but if you do find such a girl – the beers are on me and I don’t expect to be getting my wallet out soon. :D

[/QUOTE]

Is there anything more hilarious than listening to a couple African's comparing the size of their cocks?

[QUOTE=Prov1]Is there anything more hilarious than listening to a couple African's comparing the size of their cocks?[/QUOTE]
Yes, listening to a couple Asian's comparing the size of their cocks.

Are you out of your mind? people like you stuff up the whole place by overpaying in tips. Shame on you

Hope you also tip the girls in canada 1000bucks for a root.

[QUOTE=Avioneto]Arrive to AC by taxi. Damage=2200Php. Checked in at the Orchid Inn resort. Second time around, Damage=$45. Nice hotel with nice pool and grounds, Staff is helpful and friendly. Went to the Central Park hotel to meet with one of my pen-pals, which I met by looking at the central Park hotel website. What a cute. I brought her some chocolates, a t-shirt, and a few smaller sourvenirs items from Canada and she was happy. Had lunch there and we socializade a little bit. She was off at 3: 00pm. So we made arrangement to see each other them. I came back to pick her up, and left the hotel under the envious eyes of her co-workers. WE end up at my hotel, and spend the afternoon by the pool. She was a decent girl, so I wasn't able to get her into the room for some LTC. Oh, well, win some loose some. We departed in friendly terms. Maybe some day, I can get sweet tasting fruit from the seed that I have planted. End up the rest of the afternoon flirting with some cute girls by the pool, and with a nice looking door girl from the Flamingo club, which is inside the Orchid Inn resort. Had some prawns coctails at the hotel, which were very good. In the evening went out to the differenet venues, brown sugar, angelwitch, camelot, Las vegas, Geckos, insommia, La bamba, to name a few. End up BF a girl from La Bamba. I should have followed my gut instint, but the booze and her looks, made me think otherwise. We went for dinner, and things seemed to be ok, but not a GFE. At the hotel, things did not go well. No kissing, no BJ, no daty. At this point I am having a hard time getting an erection, but managed to get one, and put on a rubber. After insertion, this girl is as close as you can get to a real starfish. Needless to say, I lost my erection again, to never recover. I just told her to get dress and I got dress. I walked her to the door, and we did not even say goodbye. What a pity. Lesson learned: always follow your gut instinct. Spend the rest of the night from bar to bar, and end up having a pretty good evening at Camelots, which is my favorite bar due to space, and to lighting. Back at the Orchid Inn, end up going to the Flamingo Club. Had some drinks, with the mamasan and some of the waitresses, and end up hooking up, with the door girl, whom I had seen in the afternoon by the pool. Bf her for 1200Php. WE went to Brown sugar, which is one of the clubs which is open until 5: 00am. We had a good time. Back at the hotel, we showered together and did some DFK. I just love kissing a girl under the shower and exploring every hole. We end up in bed for some LTC. She had beautiful feet, and a beautiful ass hole. I ate both of them and I was in paradise. She curled her toes when she came. A+.

As I said before, you win some and you loose some. I end up winning. I gave her 1000Php the morning after as I was feeling generous, and because she made me feel good again. Damage=1000Php.

Life is good,

Avioneto[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wilson19]Are you out of your mind? people like you stuff up the whole place by overpaying in tips. Shame on you
[/QUOTE]

Quite a friendly posting for your first one.
I like good and maybe too high tipping too, because it always results in an excellent service the following times. As my experience.
Shame on me, sooo egoistic....

Hey there!

Not to go off target but was thinking about go to A.C. somethime this year.

Any mixed race filipinas there? Like to hang with a black filipina as they are exotic

Thanks

When your girl tells her friends and cousins about your generous tips, they might also decide to spend some time on their backs. Wilson19 seems to be confused.

Tipping well is a win, wiin situation.

X

I'll be in AC in a couple of weeks.

I met this gorgeous 19-year-old on a "friends" website (not even a dating site) and she's been telling me for weeks how much she's looking forward to meeting me. She lives about half way between Manila and AC, so I suggested that she come up to Angeles to see me. She said, "cant wait to see u....but im telling u...i cant go with u to angeles...sad to say...my parents are tOo strict...maybe we can meet some place near here". I counter with, "OK, I'll come down to see you. Let me know where is a good place to meet."

So I'm expecting her to come back with the name of a restaurant or mall, someplace where she can get me to spend money on her, and probably her extended family, all the way out to her third cousins, twice-removed. Filipina SOP, right?

She answers back with the name of a hotel! And by the name of the hotel, it sounds like a short-time place. I couldn't stop laughing. I like the way this girl's mind works. Her parents may be strict, but she wants to meet me in a place where we can get our clothes off, as quickly as possible!

It's like shooting fish in a barrel, sometimes.

Anyone who's in Phil the last half of April, drop me a PM, and maybe we can hook up and shoot some fish.

Thanks Eskpat,X man,Junior.

The experts have spoken.

Case closed.

By the way WILSON19 ,we don't call them bucks,we call them Loonies.

Life continues to be good.

Avioneto

Junior,

I can't speak for Prov, but I certainly have been in AC and reported on it (September 2, 2003). Look it up. I had the pleasure of having two sisters in bed at the same time and banging them alternately, and reporting on it. Click on my name and press the tab 'see other posts by Dashing Don'. Very easy. With field reports from Buenos Aires, Phils, Thailand, Curacao, DR and others that I can't remember, I don't have to prove anything to anyone.

Your 'multiple ID theory' is old already and has been refuted by both Good Enough and Jackson, both of whom I've met, Jackson on multiple occasions. But if you want to keep it up and reignite a flame war over this, I'm quite capable and willing to do it. I'll dredge up every stereotype and go at it with you from now until doomsday if you want.

Don

I haven't been to AC in a while, so don't have much to add to this thread.

Yesterday one of my online ladies fessed up and told me she was a bar girl in AC; Blue nile. She's a petite lady from Samar. She told me she liked Korean and Japanese customers, rather than American. I asked why. She said, "Because Americans have big dicks". Anyway, that's what she typed. Maybe she meant, "Americans are dicks". :-)

While she was on cam, another lady comes up behind and paused. I can only see her legs so I quickly type, "Hey, if she want to read my messages she has to show her face.". She does. She looks very nice and has unusually large breasts." But what really shocks me is that the original girl types, "She knows you. Her name is Juda."

Later I go back and search my files for Juda, and sure enough about six months earlier I chatted with a Juda in AC. Naturally, I send her an email.

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[QUOTE=Drwoo]Hey there!

Not to go off target but was thinking about go to A.C. somethime this year.

Any mixed race filipinas there? Like to hang with a black filipina as they are exotic

Thanks[/QUOTE]Drwoo,

As promised here is the photo of the girl who is mixed-raced her father is a black former GI, she is the girl in the middle. The girl who’s face I blanked out told me she was due to get married this year, she was a nice girl but not a working girl, so no need to reveal her identity.

But many of these girls are based in the top end of Fields Ave, although if you hang out in [b]Kokomos[/b] you will be sure to see a few on your travels.

Enjoy

[QUOTE=Juniour]
But many of these girls are based in the top end of Fields Ave, although if you hang out in [b]Kokomos[/b] you will be sure to see a few on your travels.
[/QUOTE]

I saw a quite pretty one in Dollhouse recently. Sometimes she's doing a single dance show instead of the regular group of girls. So called "single dancer" cost 3,000Peso barfine I was told.
Cheers!

[QUOTE=X Man]I haven't been to AC in a while, so don't have much to add to this thread.

Yesterday one of my online ladies fessed up and told me she was a bar girl in AC; Blue nile. She's a petite lady from Samar. She told me she liked Korean and Japanese customers, rather than American. I asked why. She said, "Because Americans have big dicks". Anyway, that's what she typed. Maybe she meant, "Americans are dicks". :-)

While she was on cam, another lady comes up behind and paused. I can only see her legs so I quickly type, "Hey, if she want to read my messages she has to show her face.". She does. She looks very nice and has unusually large breasts." But what really shocks me is that the original girl types, "She knows you. Her name is Juda."

Later I go back and search my files for Juda, and sure enough about six months earlier I chatted with a Juda in AC. Naturally, I send her an email.[/QUOTE]

No, she said that they have big ones. Many girls in the MPs I've been to told me that they don't like customers with big ones because it hurts them. Some will call other girls, others will give a hand-job only and others have grown to like the big ones...

I'm doing a bola bola check.

Has anyone seen this cute dish working in an AC bar. She's tiny, 4'11.

I've never met her and I didn't take the picture. She says she worked chat, but "never in the bar".

Just curious.

X

Sugoi, is that why they always grab my crotch when I walk into a bar? I always thought they were just being friendly. Now I realize that they're taking measurements.

Hmmmm, never had a girl turn me down...does that mean I have a small one?

X

[QUOTE=Sugoi]No, she said that they have big ones. Many girls in the MPs I've been to told me that they don't like customers with big ones because it hurts them. Some will call other girls, others will give a hand-job only and others have grown to like the big ones...[/QUOTE]

Hit AC Saturday night after Flying the Bus from the Swagman Hotel in Manila. A great deal by the way at 500 Pesos. Just don't get stuck in the little jumper seat like I did. It made for a shitty ride.

First stop, Champayne Club to check out the talent. Other Mongers must have cleaned the place out early because there were not a lot of stunners floating around the club that night. I had a few drinks and played with the girls for a bit, and then went on my way.

Dropped in at Treasure Island to say hello to Mae Ann. Mae Ann is by far the best thing that has happened to that Club. Unfortunetly, I think she's hooked up with the owner of the bar or one of his friends. There's definately something going on in her life. Too bad. She's a great piece of ass and a very fun girl to hang around.

Back out on the strip I run into a non bar girl I have been wanting to get close to since my last three trips, but she always has friends with her when we are together. That night started the same. She invited me to go to the disco (is it really an invitation when you pay for most everything during the evening?) with her and her friends. 400 Pesos lighter at the door and we're inside jammin' to some HipHop. She and the friends order drinks and I'm a few hundred more Pesos lighter. We do some group dancing, friend number one gets drunk and leaves. A few more drinks are ordered, my Peso counter is approaching it's daily limit, but friend number two is hanging on strong. After the third round of Long Island Icetea's, Friend number two runs to the CR to vomit. A good sign for me that she will be outta the game soon. She goes home soon after coming outta the CR. Yeahhh!

Now I'm down to business. I order a fourth round of Long Islands and then pop her the question...you know the one. " Wanna come back to my hotel with me?" I can see she's drunk and thinking hard about it, but she say's no. She explains that she's not a bar girl and too many good people know her in the Bar area. Then she she brightens my night and say's we have to go some place far, far away. Well hell, I'm ok with that so we go.

She takes me to a hotel twenty minutes out of the main bar area. I reset my Peso counter and pay the 800 Pesos needed for the room... after all, it's a free piece of ass right? Anyway, we do some heavy petting and kissing for a long time before she finally let me get in those panties. It was amazing stuff when I did get in though. We stayed in bed for the next 12 hours talking petting and fucking. Great experience. Free piece of ass? Not really. It would have been cheaper for me to have bar-fined a girl that night. But sometimes it's not about the money, It's about the chase...and I love the chase! A great girl who I will definately see again.

Yella Man

Great story yella, Keep up the good work. I hope you can send some trip pics too!

What was the name of the hotel? Was it downtown? Just curious.

X

X Man,

The name of the Hotel is Haven. I've got no idea how to get to it. I do know by looking at the advertisement in our room that they have a Jacuzzi room that goes for 1500 Pesos/night. I'll be checking it out real soon I hope.

As far as pictures go, I don't post as many photos of girls for obvious reason. I do have my own secured site that I post to and let certain friends visit. I'm here way too much to chance messing up the connections I have established with some of the girls.

Yella Man

Anyone know a bar in Angeles that has a half white/ half filipina (eurasian)?

[QUOTE=X Man]I'm doing a bola bola check.

Has anyone seen this cute dish working in an AC bar. She's tiny, 4'11.

I've never met her and I didn't take the picture. She says she worked chat, but "never in the bar".

Just curious.

X[/QUOTE]She looks like Lovely Cutie who works in ABC!! she has a baby boy i thing?

Bonus zip of another girl.

[QUOTE=Jason4]They also have a web site where you can see all the girls working in the house, the link is [url]http://www.geocities.com/angelescity_cybersex_gurls/YOLANDADUBLINHOUSE.html[/url][/QUOTE]The above link works now

[QUOTE=Igorotsp]Anyone know a bar in Angeles that has a half white/ half filipina (eurasian)?[/QUOTE]


Err, [b]Igorotsp[/b] Get real.

Any girl who is half Filippina and half European, (Eurasian doesn’t mean anything outside of Europe) is unlikely to be selling her [I]toosh[/I] for 1200 Pesos a time in Angeles City, nooooo way.

I can understand that you have no doubt seen girls like [url=www.myleeneofficial.co.uk]Myleen Klass[/url] or [url=www.jasminetrias.net]Jasmine Trias[/url] And you are thinking I wonder if I go to the Philippines if I could really have a girl like that? Sadly for you no, 90% of these mixed race girls end up in Europe or with their fathers simply because of economics, the welfare system is much more generous there is none in the Philippines. Enviably, if the mother and father split up the woman knows that to offer her daughter a better chance in life (It’s a mother’s instinct) its much better to send her to Europe to be with the father even if the father is no go to begin with. However, the system is such, especially in the UK that would support the child much better than in the Philippines. Even that woman who set-up and murdered her British husband agreed to send the kids to the UK to stay with his parents (grandparents) while she faced life-imprisonment.

OK that’s the 90% but of the remaining 10% who actually do remain in the Philippines are more than likely to have a better lifestlye than your average Filippina, more doors are open for them and career prospects are generally better. These girls can sneer a rich boyfriend much easily because even Philippino guys view these girls, well the pretty ones and trophy girlfriends or wives. Just go into any pharmacisit and look at the skin lightening creams and nipple whitening creams and obviously people are buying these products. Now if they should have to resort to selling their [I]putang[/I] it is more likely they would be doing this in Burgos Ave in Manila or working privately for around 5000 Pesos a time.

I just asked a question Juniour. You seem to have angry response. You angry at something *****?

[QUOTE=X Man]I'm doing a bola bola check.

Has anyone seen this cute dish working in an AC bar. She's tiny, 4'11.

I've never met her and I didn't take the picture. She says she worked chat, but "never in the bar".

Just curious.

X[/QUOTE]
Hello X man,
dunno if your gurl works in bar, but the place where she took the photo might be the internetcafe oposite Blue Nile/Neros in AC, with curtains for private rooms. I can be wrong...but..my instincts tell me by all respect, any gurl around balibago is somehow involved with the barscene, either she work in bar or she work incyberchat business to cone more guys :))..my instincts says she works in a bar, cause she dont dress like office gurl/receptionist etc...well, just my opinion on that.
Still hoping we have a forum on cyberchicks, so we can exchange info about them , e. g. not invest to much money to screw them :)

So, thats my 2 cents :)

Happy hunting :)

Juniour makes a logical case for the paucity of mixed race Filipinas doing the bar scene. While it's well-argued, it is, at least in my experience, often incorrect. There are thousands of mixed race Filipinas whose fathers (a) either never knew about their birth prior to going home or (b) knew about the birth and refused the burden, thereby not acknowledging the child.

I've met dozens of Korean/Chinese/African/Caucasion-Filipinas and have heard the same tale from each of them. For the most part, these are girls whose mothers were bar girls who got knocked up from one night stands or who were bar girls, then girl friends of expats and then got knocked up. My experience then is that there are lots of these girls, but you do need to search them out as obviously they are not as profuse as their pure Filipina counterparts.

Hope springs eternal!

:D

GE

Thanks[b] Goodenought[/b] I take on board all of your points, but I was actually addressing the specific questions regarding “Eurasians;” agreed, if what you have pointed out was the case for other ethnic groups but in Europe for Eurasians this is a different subject altogether that has been widely debated and its still going on.

I have met many mixed Japanese in the Phils and Thailand plus mixed Chinese seem to blend in seamlessly, but remember that in Japan their society is not geared towards accepting any offspring of Japanese who are not pure Japanese. I had a Japanese friend who had a mixed race child but she could not go back to Japan, to live, with the child because it very difficult to get a passport and residency for the child it actually easier to take children out than bring them into Japan, whereas in the EU the opposite is true. There has been talk following the recent EU enlargement of trying to clamping down. In a city like Gottenburg, Sweden for example it has a massive Asian mixed race population from Koreans to Philippinos, in the UK with the largest growing mixed race population in the world [url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/uk/2002/race/changing_face_of_britain.stm] To read more..[/url]

If the woman can prove that the child’s father was European then under our laws here there is an obligation to maintain the child financially or by taking on the child hence with benefits many guys opt for the latter. But I know that in our children’s homes we have many of these kids in care. (I am surprised that many paternity lawyers are not heading to Angeles City as we speak.)

But this is a two-sided argument because on one hand there is an argument that it costs a great deal to look after someone’s offspring. However, the flip side of this is that it is recognised that with the population rate actually falling across Europe, some countries don’t object to accepting someone who has some link to Europe and hopefully will be a future tax payer.


Yes, I have seen many mixed raced Philippinos on my travels but all I can say to those guys is shame on you and all I can say is: [i]“You’ll need to be taking care of your babies.”[/I]

[QUOTE=Igorotsp]I just asked a question Juniour. You seem to have angry response. You angry at something *****?[/QUOTE]


[b]Igorotsp[/b]

Why would I be angry sharing information with a fellow monger?? Its the style I write in "matter-of-factly", if I was angry why would I be answering your question.

Well thanks for answering my question then Juniour.

Junior:

Why is it that nobody talks about the half black/half filipina girls running around AC? I often wonder how they're treated, I know it can't be that good considering that half white filipina are preferred, but most likely it would depend on their color. In my experiances through 2matchu, they usually look totally black or just filipino.

Do you know if the bros usually score with the half black, half filipina girls? For me (as you know I am black too), I would feel an strong obligation to help them and they deserve extra special respect and love.

Isnt interesting how filipinos and other people of color throughout the world want to bleach every bit of color out of their skin with toxic mercury based cream? I find this ironic considering that brown skin is so natural and healthy looking. Everybody wants brown skin, even Europeans.

[QUOTE=Ace of Spades]Everybody wants brown skin, even Europeans.[/QUOTE]

Huh? Everybody???
Europeans yes, but eg. the whole Asian population is mad about white.
A PRC-girl in front of a white-painted wall, if you can hardly see her, then it's just fine.

The few Europs, Aussies or US-guys who like brown or don't care about skin color are the clear minority. IMHO.

Cheers!

I can't speak for Ace, but it's possible he was writing in a very general sense. In EVERY culture you will find people who like brown/black. I've spent some time in Japan, where white is considered beautiful (note the makeup on a geisha). In summer many women use parasols to avoid browning. Nevertheless, there are some people who spend time in tanning salons or putting on makeup that makes them look brown. You can also find ads in the personal sections from J women specifically looking for men of African ancestory.

Last year there was a 5'10, Af/Am/Filipina working at EDSA. She was very well built. I generally prefer petite, but I was seriously tempted to get a better view of this woman's wonderful body. In the end I declined because she was a little too emphatic about the fact that the man needs to be a good at sex and must be able to please HER.

A couple days later I went back, having had a change of heart. She wasn't there, but at 11pm she strolls in wearing her street clothes. So, I suspected she's the type who trys for the early exit, but I'll never know for sure.

X

Anyone know a bar in Angeles that has a half white/ half filipina (eurasian)?

There is one girl who is half German and half Phillippino who is working in Camelot. When I went there last month I bought her a drink, Nice body, nice face definitely a 9 in my opinion. I wanted to barfine her. But she did not want long time because of her baby. I was looking for long time. She wanted to go to Disco and short time at the hotel. She told me a story that she has a German passport. I did not believe her because these girls can definitely spin a nice story which will put screenwriters to shame.

J girls looking for Black guys in the personal ADs? Get real, to see is to believe. You have to show me this.

I know of Japanese girls who like Black guys, but they are a minority and simply INDIVIDUALS. Same with Chinese and KOREAN girls. Filipina are different because simple economics does not allow them to be too picky. I believe if most Filipina had a choice, they would marry white guys. One need only look at the few Filipina that can go abroad; I have NEVER seen one with a black guy here in Canada.

Ekspat:

Back to what I said about Europeans and other whites wanting to be black. Here is a good example. Have you ever seen how white girls go crazy over black dick? I can't explain it. Every white girl I see herself a black man and a mixed race kid. Strange, but true. I think it is this way in every major city.

Second point:

Whites seem to have a fascination with getting sun tans for purposes of wanting to look "healthier" as some say.

In sum, everybody else (non-whites) want to be white, but whites want to be like everybody else, e.g., skin color.

Go to
[url]http://metropolis.co.jp/[/url]

Find the classifieds
[url]http://classifieds.japantoday.com/[/url]

Find “women for men”
[url]http://classifieds.japantoday.com/biz.asp?action=home&pid=62[/url]

Now that I look I don’t see any this week. I do see some that specify “Caucasian”. But it happens.

After I went to all this trouble, I'm wondering...were you just being sarcastic?

X

[QUOTE=Ace of Spades]
In sum, everybody else (non-whites) want to be white, but whites want to be like everybody else, e.g., skin color.[/QUOTE]

Yup, can agree with that.
Anyway, myself heading to AC tomorrow for a nice relaxed weekend!
Cheers!

Thanks for the reply.

These Jap girls are REALLY PICKY about color. I guess any white guy will do, haha. I don't know if I could handle being in a place where the majority of girls were not into Black guys in some way shape or form. I have been to Japan before, too pricey for my liking. IFor me the Philippines, and certain parts of China meet my needs. There seem to be enough women in these countries to give a Black man his fill. I hate going to countries were the supply of women is REALLY limited and buying pussy as an option is out of the question due to the cost.

Ace, I'm surprised that you, of all people, would use a derogatory term to describe people of a certain ethnic origin.

X

Actually, [b]Ace of Spade[/b]I have seen many people asking about the mixed race Filippinas who are half-black, scroll down in the forum; but true it is the half-white or Eurasians then tend to be at the top of the food chain. But I have heard many terms for the same thing, 'Anglo-Asian' 'Eurasians' but found Igorotsp question amusing since I have had people asking me about how to find a girl who is exactly like 'Myleen Klass' no doubt for them to fulfil some part of their sexual fantasy. Eurasians to be fair, and in my experience its always the Scandinavians who are the ones seeking out the darker mixed race Filiappinas.

As I am not a mixed-race Filippina I would not know how they are treated in the country. But I am going to have to disagree with you on your views of the Japanese, because while I appreciate that some are funny towards people of colour but as for myself , I have nothing but positive experiences when I was in a small town west of Tokyo the people there treated me with nothing but respect and in a week there I only saw two other foreigners, both caucasians. I heard the same arguments when I went to Germany six years ago, and the Germans and Japanese never showed me any bad face, in fact I saw less than you would find in the UK. I suggest you go with an open mind because I have had as much Japanese [i]putang[/i] as Filippinas on my two visits, plus several who I know residing in the UK.

My trip to Angeles, now over, was six short days of beer, booty and good grub. I paid one bar-fine in between all the free ass I was getting, but that happens from time to time when your running in and out of clubs all night long. She was someone I just had to have then and there…so I did. Most of the others came by way of meeting on the streets of Fields Avenue at night and striking up conversation, or by giving them my cell number while in the club and telling them to call me when they get off work. The latter works best after you have bought them several drinks and have played with them for an hour or so. The girls aren’t supposed to do this, but the bar owners are powerless to stop it. They don’t have the kind of control over the girls like they do in Korea for instance. The juicy bar owners in Korea keep their girls locked down tight knowing the girls will, and do go out and make money on-the-side whenever possible.

The one thing you have to keep in mind is that it’s a numbers game. The more girls you have contact with in the clubs in AC, the better your chances of having them swing by your room if they aren’t bar-fined out by the end of the night. The other thing to keep in mind is the girls have got to like you. So have fun with them and leave a positive impression about yourself with them before you leave the club. Buying drinks, smiling, making the girls laugh, and dancing are good ways to do this. It pays off big dividends in the end when the girls start to text you later that night and the rest of the week. Then your only other problems will be scheduling them in during the day or night for visits to your hotel room (tike money included), and keeping up enough stamina to repeatedly handle your business. Good problems to have, wouldn’t you agree? Of course, everything I have written above hinges on you having a cell phone. So pick a used one up for as little as 1500 Pesos and reap the benefits of being connected 24/7 while in AC.

Some odds and ends: The ATM that was situated at Mo’s has gone by the wayside. One girl told me they took it out of service because it stayed off-line too much. Now you have to take a short trike ride to the ATM’s on Balibago Blvd. It’s actually better to walk instead. That way you can flirt with all the door girls at all the bars on your way to the ATM. A very productive trip if you’re a good flirt!

The new Super Mall being built on Clark is just about complete and should open some time this month I believe. It’s completion will open another venue for us chaser’s looking for women interested in an afternoon romp. I know it will be one of my daytime hang-outs when I return in June/July.

The NEPO Mall is still open, and for a short trike ride you can go shopping and find some great deals on basketball and running shoes. I paid 1100 and 1300 Pesos for a pair of Jordans and a pair Nike Shox (espionage model). They have all sorts of other stuff that gives it a flea market type feel as you walk around and browse. Not a big mall, but worth a look when you’re not shaggin’ some ass.

Looking for a good meal while on Fields? Stop by and say Hello to the girls at the Bourbon Street Bistro and Bar while you’re having a meal there. The waitresses are cute and very friendly. I think their sign even say’s “The friendliest Waitresses in AC”. They aren’t bar-girls so treat them accordingly. The food is excellent and there is a variety to choose from on their fairly extensive menu. Their wine list is pretty large as well, if you interested in wines. It has indoor and outdoor seating. The girls even make sure the street vendors who hawk their products up and down the street stay away as you enjoy your meal outside. It’s located on Fields next to the Viper Club.

Right across from the Bourbon is a little place that sells Gyro wraps/sandwiches. They’re cheap and tasty as hell! Good quick food when you don’t have time to seat down for a meal. Just walk and stuff your face full of tasty Gyro as you continue to check out the bars.

Hang a right on Balibago Blvd at the end of fields and walk a little ways like you’re going to the ATM’s and you’ll see several barbecue pits selling pork and chicken. I usually (no time this trip) have the vendors cut up some chicken and pork barbecue for me so I can take it to one of the clubs with me. He’ll also give you some dipping sauce to go with it. Pretty damn good stuff! Just order a drink and ask mamasan to put it on a plate for you when you get in the door. She’ll be more than happy to help you out. The girls love this! But be warned…They won’t waste any time in making it disappear once it hits the table, so if you’re hungry get plenty…otherwise you’ll be looking at an empty plate in about two minutes. This also breaks the ice with the girls on maybe meeting them later for a quick romp…trike money included of course.

I only made one trip to the Black Pearl on Santos St. this time around. It’s almost directly across from the new Wild Orchid Hotel. Their specialty? Blow Jobs. I used to stop in and get a morning suck-off from one of the girls after breakfast, but my time was tied up by the other girls I was meeting, so I was only able to sneak away once to get a good CIM BJ. Ask for Lay Lay or Lea. They both have some skills, and at 40 Pesos a pop for a Cold San Miguel Light, it’s a great place to kill some time. The other bars on the street also specialize in BJ’s, but I haven’t tried any of them out yet.

I don’t have much else to say about the other bars in AC, because by the time you read this the Talent may have already changed. There are no favorites in my book because in all the clubs there exist the opportunity to talk your way into some cheap daytime action. Then again, I do occasionally find the one or two girls I just gotta have and a bar-fine is in quick order. So there it is. If you make it to AC guys, you have all of the tools here to really enjoy your trip! Happy Hunting!

Yella Man

[QUOTE=Yella Man]My trip to Angeles, now over, was six short days of beer, booty and good grub. I paid one bar-fine in between all the free ass I was getting, but that happens from time to time when your running in and out of clubs all night long. She was someone I just had to have then and there…so I did. Most of the others came by way of meeting on the streets of Fields Avenue at night and striking up conversation, or by giving them my cell number while in the club and telling them to call me when they get off work. The latter works best after you have bought them several drinks and have played with them for an hour or so. The girls aren’t supposed to do this, but the bar owners are powerless to stop it. They don’t have the kind of control over the girls like they do in Korea for instance. The juicy bar owners in Korea keep their girls locked down tight knowing the girls will, and do go out and make money on-the-side whenever possible.
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Sorry Yella Man but arranging a date without barfine with a girl in a club is stealing. Yes, you can get away with it but it is still stealing.

[QUOTE=J Boy]Sorry Yella Man but arranging a date without barfine with a girl in a club is stealing. Yes, you can get away with it but it is still stealing.[/QUOTE]

[b]J Boy[/b]

Stealing…..? That’s a bit strong, isn't it? Where I live its called networking and using your initiative and there is nothing wrong with that in my books.

[size=1]But [b]Yella Man[/b] don’t give away to many of the trade secrets, and keep up the posting :D[/size]

J-Boy,

I've had a good gut wrenching laugh over that one! You crack me up dude! But in my defense I have to say...I only steal their hearts! You must be one of those pissed-off bar owners who thinks they're loosing money on the deal. Well I usually buy damn near 700-1000 Pesos worth of drinks in the bars I visit when I like the girls. So what are you losing? If you're not an owner then why defend them? The girls aren't slaves...the are human beings with real emotions and feelings, who I believe should be able to do what the hell they want to do with their free time!

Juniour, your right. Maybe that was too much info. But you have to be a master to apply those techniques, and unfortunately most guys don't fit the M.O. or profile to operate like I do. Especially during short trips. Most guys get here and want action right away so they pay for it. Me? I'm a patient man who loves the chase instead of the kill. Compare it to hunting: I used to rifle hunt years ago for whitetails, that is until I picked up my first bow. Now it's exclusively bow hunting for whitetails because you have to get a lot closer to your game, hence, you have to better understand that which you hunt. So I might not hookup with a girl the first night unless it's one I know from a previous trip.

Jackson, change my name to Booty Snatcher. I don't deserve to be Called Yella Man any more......Jeeez! I've heard it all now! ROFLMAO!!

Yella Man

[QUOTE=J Boy]Could you expand on this Yella Man? Who and where are you dropping your number on girls? I kind of enjoy the hunt more than BFing.[/QUOTE]

J Boy,

I see back in November you were trying to get more information from me on which clubs I had given girls my cell number. You even indicated you enjoyed the chase more then the kill. Suddenly your tone has changed. Why is that?

Yella Man

I agree with you 100% Yella Man. Surely the girls can choose how and with who they wish to spend their free time.

I've encountered the problem where it has been discovered I've met with a girl outside her working hours. Mamasan has then insisted that I must pay a bar-fine for meeting during this time. Personally I don't think this is fair.

I was keeping abreast of things in Angeles when I met the Cleave Twins... :-)

Yella Man

Yella man, I got a good laugh from that post too. In whose reality is it okay for an employer to control what an employee does in her free time?

Nevertheless, I rarely do what you do. These girls get off work at 3 to 4 am. At that late hour I'd much rather be dozing off next to something sweet after a bit of sexercise. And what happends if she no-shows? On least one occasion I had a few too many beers and didn't hear the phone ring. Ooops.

Either you have superior powers of persuasion, or you line up two or three and then first come first serve...which sounds risky.

Hope you're having fun....you bastard. :-)

X

[QUOTE=Yella Man]J Boy,

I see back in November you were trying to get more information from me on which clubs I had given girls my cell number. You even indicated you enjoyed the chase more then the kill. Suddenly your tone has changed. Why is that?

Yella Man[/QUOTE]


I don't remember what I said back then. I think its fine to pick up girls outside the clubs but not to arrange a sneak out when you are in the club. It may be a fine line but that's how I feel. On the otherhand I really have no right to impose that standard on you and I apologize for saying what you do is stealing.

[QUOTE=Van Rensberg]I agree with you 100% Yella Man. Surely the girls can choose how and with who they wish to spend their free time.

I've encountered the problem where it has been discovered I've met with a girl outside her working hours. Mamasan has then insisted that I must pay a bar-fine for meeting during this time. Personally I don't think this is fair.[/QUOTE]

Van I agree that if you pick up a girl outside the club you owe the club nothing. Depending upon what she agreed to when accepting her job she might owe the club but you don't.

My comment to yella man [which I just apologized for] was only about arranging the date while in the club and while she is working.

[QUOTE=Yella Man]I was keeping abreast of things in Angeles when I met the Cleave Twins... :-)

Yella Man[/QUOTE]

YM,

That first pic reminded me of one with a nice rack I did a few times. She is an AFF freebie from Fuzhou China, not Filipina, but a nice rack is a nice rack regardless where they originate, right?

I have lost track of her now sob, sob, sob.

ES

X Man,

You hit the nail on the head when you said, "first come first serve". That's what it boils down to. You have to line up more than one, otherwise you could be sleeping alone that particular night. It has happened to me on a few occasions, but less and less as a I get more trips under my belt and more contact numbers in my cell. Incidently, your SIM card remains valid even after five months of inactivity. You lose your load though. Just reload when you get in country and wham! You have instant access to your previous contacts.

J Boy,

Apology accepted. Anyway, I don't really arrange the dates in the clubs. I just give them my number and tell them to call/text me later if they're not busy. Some call/text, some don't. And if the girl does agree to swing by your room, you can't parade her around in public because, like one poster reported, the girl will get in trouble if seen with you. In any event, it's no big deal J Boy.

Yella Man

[QUOTE=X Man]Yella man, I got a good laugh from that post too. In whose reality is it okay for an employer to control what an employee does in her free time?

Nevertheless, I rarely do what you do. These girls get off work at 3 to 4 am. At that late hour I'd much rather be dozing off next to something sweet after a bit of sexercise. And what happends if she no-shows? On least one occasion I had a few too many beers and didn't hear the phone ring. Ooops.

Either you have superior powers of persuasion, or you line up two or three and then first come first serve...which sounds risky.

Hope you're having fun....you bastard. :-)

X[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sammon]Anyone know a bar in Angeles that has a half white/ half filipina (eurasian)?

There is one girl who is half German and half Phillippino who is working in Camelot. When I went there last month I bought her a drink, Nice body, nice face definitely a 9 in my opinion. I wanted to barfine her. But she did not want long time because of her baby. I was looking for long time. She wanted to go to Disco and short time at the hotel. She told me a story that she has a German passport. I did not believe her because these girls can definitely spin a nice story which will put screenwriters to shame.[/QUOTE]Sammon just wondering if the half German and Philipino gal's name was Margrita? I barfined a very tall beautiful girl at the Blue Nile a few months back who fitted your description and had smail boy. She was well worth the money!

Good info YM,

I was really confused about the phones when I first got one. If I'm not mistaken the load is good for 60 days once you've activated it. But, the load cards themselves often have an expiration date nearly a year into the future. So, this last trip I bought a 100 peso card to take back with me. So, on the next visit, I can start lining up dates before I exit the airplane.

That may sound like overkill, but on one trip I had a late arrival and had trouble finding, first, a money changer, and then had to search out a convenience store to buy the load card.

Some hotels sell load cards. I know Holiday Plaza in Cebu does.

My problem is that the phone memory fill ups too quickly and then I have to start deleting messages. I suppose I should get a newer phone.

X

[QUOTE=Yella Man],

It has happened to me on a few occasions, but less and less as a I get more trips under my belt and more contact numbers in my cell. Incidently, your SIM card remains valid even after five months of inactivity. You lose your load though. Just reload when you get in country and wham! You have instant access to your previous contacts.

I arrange for dates in the bars all the time. I've been to the Phils 3 times now. I only barfined 1 girl on my first trip. After that 1st time ,I got smart. I exchanged info with the girls and meet up later. I would feel guilty BUT I usually spend between 3 and 5 thosand pesos at the bar im have fun at. So the bar owners are getting my biz also.

Actually, you can still use your cellphone overseas with international roaming, but this only applies to [url=www.smart.com.ph/smart]Smart[/url].

30 minutes before you leave the Philippines you need to set your phone to international roaming by sending an text to 555. As long as you have sufficient credits on your phone, more than 300 Pesos, I believe, it will remain active and allow you to send and receive text messages from overseas, however you cannot make voice calls.

Smart deducts credits from your account each month which allows you to use international roaming, but there are three ways of topping up your account whilst overseas, (1) If you have a girlfriend or someone your trust to buy top up cards and send the numbers over to you (2) there are two Philippino companies that allow you to purchase top-ups (loads) on line with a credit card, the numbers are then e-mailed to you (3) if you have a large Philippino community in your city try one of their supermarkets that may sell top up cards.

Great post about the phones Juniour! My buddy is using my phone over there now. I'll have him visit one of my girls so she can put it in International Roaming mode before he returns to Korea. Nothing like keeping in touch with all the ladies while your away.

Another way to send text right to the girls phone is thru Yahoo Messenger. Just click on the Messenger tab, then Preferences, then Connections. Under Connections change the home country to Philippines. Click apply or save. Now if you add your girls cell number to her Yahoo ID info, leaving out the 63(country code) & the 0 at the beginning of her number, you'll be able to send her text right from messenger. I do it all the time and get replies back from the girls. I don't know if it works in other countries, but it works for me here in Korea.

Yella Man

Dear Yella Man,

Just tried to text a few girlfriends here from the U.S. and it worked like a charm! Thats brilliant, who would have thunk! It seems that you can defeat many systems on YM including the invisible feature. This weekend I will try it out in Canada but I'm sure it will work there as well. Thanks for the tip, I really appreciate it!

Excelsior,

Mattrick

Mattrick,

Texting from Canada works.I have some GFs who text their friends/families all the time.I don't know how they do it,but I know they do.

Avioneto

This maybe old news but was told last night by the manager of a nice restaurant in AC that the rest of the BJ Bars on the east side of Santos will also be torn down eventually. He mentioned that he heard some would try and move out on the perimeter FWIW.

RMW

[QUOTE=Avioneto]Mattrick,

Texting from Canada works.I have some GFs who text their friends/families all the time.I don't know how they do it,but I know they do.

Avioneto[/QUOTE]

Here's one that may surprise you...

I stopped at Hong Kong on my way back from the PI last trip. When I arrived back in Canada, I still had the Hong Kong SIM in the phone. It is not set up for roaming. When I turned on the phone, the local carrier's name showed up. I cannot make calls, but I can send SMS to anywhere in Asia.

The local carrier has no way of charging these calls to my HK SIM, and I doubt that the HK carrier is able to charge me, since I am on a local network here in Canada.

I guess that I will find out for sure the next time that I go to Hong Kong whether or not the messages really were free, but I have sent a lot of them.

Raz

[QUOTE=Juniour]Actually, you can still use your cellphone overseas with international roaming, but this only applies to [url=www.smart.com.ph/smart]Smart[/url].

30 minutes before you leave the Philippines you need to set your phone to international roaming by sending an text to 555. As long as you have sufficient credits on your phone, more than 300 Pesos, I believe, it will remain active and allow you to send and receive text messages from overseas, however you cannot make voice calls.

Smart deducts credits from your account each month which allows you to use international roaming, but there are three ways of topping up your account whilst overseas....[/QUOTE]Globe also has international roaming but I do not know the details.

With Smart, you send the text message "Roam On" to 333.

Still another way to send load to your HK, and to your roaming cel, through PayPal, is to download chikka version 3.0.49 to your computer.

Outgoing chikka text messages from your computer to HK's cel are free, but she pays P2.50/160-character msg to reply. If she texts back instead to your roaming cel, she pays only P1.

I believe in the US, Globe charges 20-30 pesos per outgoing text. The problem with chiika is that you can only send 3 messages before your friend replies. Otherwise you will get a message saying that there is an anti-spam blocker and you must wait for your friend to reply before sending another message.

[QUOTE=RockyMtnWay]This maybe old news but was told last night by the manager of a nice restaurant in AC that the rest of the BJ Bars on the east side of Santos will also be torn down eventually. He mentioned that he heard some would try and move out on the perimeter FWIW.

RMW[/QUOTE]OOPs that should have been the BJ bars on the west side of Santos Street will be torn down. Obviously the ones on the east side are already gone.

RMW

Hey Friends,

got into Angeles on last Friday and sent some SMS to some former "girl-friends".
Huh!! Either not around (Manila, Cebu) or no answer..........

Went to Nifty's, my favorite girl booked out,
went to Matrix Brawn, no girl free to give a BBBJ!!
All busy with some guys, shocking!!

Okay, let's have a break, back to Field's, hey,
found someone good and well known talent in Lollipop.
At least good stuff for the first night.

Next day I've met Bro Hesekiels, who had just arrived.
Introduced him to some places in Perimeter Road and we ended in one of those Clubs and one girl caught my eye and I talked a bit to her.
WOW, a body to die for and I considered to BF her, but just 9pm or so, and maybe can find something better???? Uneasy.......
Then she started some sort of dance show and all guys around got attracted. So all were looking quite willingly, it's clear, if I wouldn't BF her immediately, she'd be gone. So I did and well worth it. Both of us BF girls there, had some more beers in Fields and back home.
Nice bedroom olympics, nice photos but no permission to share.

Third night a talent from Ziggys, but nothing to report, standard procedure.
Straight forward service.

Hey, why is Bananitas closed? Anyone knows?
Any trouble with the local mafia or what?
I liked it there always, good selection IMHO.

Now back in Office and looking forward to the next trip early May......
Cheers!

Sitting here in the lobby of the Central Park waiting for my ride to Clark.
So might as well try and whip out a report.

Arrived Manila April 6th around noon. Stayed overnight in Ermita. Had never
been to the L.A. Cafe so wanted to give it a try. I ST a couple of girls and had a great time.

Friday - Arrived AC via the Swagman 'Fly the Bus'. Nice trip and able to buy
beers on the bus. But the AC on the bus isn't great. It's cooler in the bus
than outside. But I should have worn shorts and sandals. The bus manages to navigate the streets of AC and get you reasonably close to your hotel. In my case they dropped me at the corner of Santos and Real for the Central Park (where I see the east side of Santos has been torn down). BTW Real Street is a mess. One one lane at the moment.

Grabbed a bite at Margarita Station, got all situated in my room and hit the streets. Went to Dollhouse looking for a favorite girl. But she had graduated to a special or featured dancer (P3000) bar fine. I bought her a couple of drinks and moved on. Went to Rhapsody but didn't see my old fav. I ended up bar fining a girl there and retired for the evening.

Saturday - Two friends and I head out towards the perimeter for some bar hopping. We went to HoneyKo's and worked back toward town. Great fun, at one bar we were the only customers and got a lot attention buying lady drinks. One friend was taking picture of a girl's ass which he wanted her to bare. She suggested he bear his ass, which he did. The girls, the mamasan and everyone else were rolling on the the floor. Maybe the funniest damn thing I ever saw. After tequila body shots at Illusions some food was in order. Had dinner at a Mexican restaurant somewhere west of Illusions. Can remember the name. OK food, but not great Mexican.

That night I got started a bit late. Hit Nero's and tried to bar fine a girl. She turned out to be a cherry girl. We move on to Treasure Island about 1 AM. I saw a beautiful girl but I mentioned to a friend she was too hot to still be here this late. I buy her a couple of drinks, try to bar fine her and get rejected. A girl with my friend asked the other girls if my girl ever does bar fines. The answer was no, and I think they said it was because she is the bosses girl friend. About an hour before closing we move on to Gecko's. There were only two of us by then and we were the only ones in the bar. About 20 girls working for our attention. My friend ending up bar fining a girl here and keeping here for the next four days. I pick a girl, guess what, you got it, she is a cherry girl. <ACK> Finally about 3:30 AM I bar fined a waitress at The Dollhouse. BTW they had a pretty nice lineup late at Gecko's.

Sunday - I'm running on about six hours of sleep in two days and developed a cold my second day in AC. So I go for some down time and sleep the night away.

Monday - In the evening I start working my way west from the Dollhouse. I bar fined a real cutie from Camelot. This is one of my favorite clubs. Very nice selection.

Tuesday - I take the girl from Camelot again. Two nights is a LTR for me. Turns out she knows someone else I know well so we had a few minutes or drama. That is why two nights is LTR for me, one night usually equals no drama. It all worked out and we went bar hopping with my friend and his Gecko girl. We did stop in Gecko's again and there was a good lineup again and still few customers. The mamasan bought us all drinks since my friend has bar fined his girl there for several nights.

Wednesday - I bar fine a girl from the Dirty Duck. The manager there (a British guy) buys me a shot and a beer). Guess it worked, I bar fined a girl. She was a wild and crazy girl. Dancing on stage at other clubs, etc. Thought we might get thrown out :-).

Thursday - The girl from last night stays with me until 7:30 PM. Man she is a horny little thing. I was pretty much worthless so did a bit of bar hopping to buy some favorite girls a drink on my last night.

Friday - Sitting here in the lobby typing this message. Ride to airport should be here in about 15 minutes.

BTW even though this is holy week things don't seem to slow down much. I was afraid it would be like Central America. But still plenty of guys on the street still trying to sell me Viagra :-).

Wrote this pretty fast. Hope it isn't too much of a mess.

RMW

I am not there, but I heard from a friend that they had an age issue with some of the employees. I also thought they had some nice talent in there.

Bananitas: closed because was raided and found under aged girl

What's with the cell phone topic, comes up every now and then. Jackson, please set aside a section for this.

Columpuss, i don't understand you. You post useless info that was already posted earlier and then snipe away with the "whats with the cell phone topic". First, there's no reason to start a seperate thread for a short exchange that was probably finished anyway. Second, there were several people, including me, that thought the exchange was interesting and useful. Third, I don't remember any cell phone topic that included the information that was given.

Yes, I suppose that exchange should have been in the "general info" thread, but it's hard to move a topic once it gets started.

Anyway, I'll be looking forward to your, umm, useful, interesting and on-topic posts.

X

[QUOTE=Columpuss]Bananitas: closed because was raided and found under aged girl

What's with the cell phone topic, comes up every now and then. Jackson, please set aside a section for this.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RockyMtnWay]the BJ bars on the west side of Santos Street will be torn down. Obviously the ones on the east side are already gone.[/QUOTE]

Yes, gone already. And the other side follows, a logical consequence.
If they built another hotel or appartement block there, these will be probably the most expensive places in whole Balibago. As owner/manager, do you wanna have the cheapest brothels right opposite?

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Ekspat]Yes, gone already. And the other side follows, a logical consequence.
If they built another hotel or appartement block there, these will be probably the most expensive places in whole Balibago. As owner/manager, do you wanna have the cheapest brothels right opposite?

Cheers![/QUOTE]There are Big Politicians in alliance with Big Business behind the "cleaning" up of AC,Remember What Mayor Lim did to Ermita in Manila.Henry Sy does not want bars and clubs beside his SM angeles city.The powers that be want AC to be more Korean friendly,There is Chinese and Korean Money at play here.Expect more of the same as more hotels come up.There is a reason why Asiana is expanding its flight frequency and more Chinese Carriers will continue to fly to Clark.More Koreans and Chinese

[QUOTE=Cebu Local]There are Big Politicians in alliance with Big Business behind the "cleaning" up of AC,Remember What Mayor Lim did to Ermita in Manila.Henry Sy does not want bars and clubs beside his SM angeles city.The powers that be want AC to be more Korean friendly,There is Chinese and Korean Money at play here.Expect more of the same as more hotels come up.There is a reason why Asiana is expanding its flight frequency and more Chinese Carriers will continue to fly to Clark.More Koreans and Chinese[/QUOTE]

I wish it wasn't so but who can blame them for wanting a more properous and cleaner city. So when AC is too far gone we will have Subic and Ermita. If they clean up Subic and Ermita [again] it will all move somewhere else. And life goes on.

Cebulocal,

I know you are a very busy guy with the boards. But I really need the details (confirmation#) on my stay at Oxford suites. My trip is about 30 days away now,and I would like to get things squared away. Can you PM that info please.

Thanks!

Hello all mongers,

When I was in AC a week or two ago I bar-fined a dancer named Winnie from the Dollhouse.

Now she kept coming to my room night after night at the end of her shift. At the time I was thinking to myself that this was pretty good. I wasn't paying bar-fines and she would come to my room each night if she hadn't already been bar-fined. It was only on my ride to the airport going home that I realised my expensive cell-phone was missing.

I do blame myself for being stupid. I should have put the cell-phone in the safety deposit box with my money, credit cards and passport. But just a warning for anyone who does bar-fine Winnie to be very careful of your belongings.

Apart from that unfortunate incident I had an enjoyable stay (as always) in AC. Looking forward to come back again later this year. Happy mongering.

Hello,
just heard from my friend that a german guy killed in his home. He lives inAC since many years.


He was brutally stabbed to death, his wife was with him, but she had been tied up with a cabel.

When police arrived his wife changed many times her testamonial, if she had ben brought to court she would been find herslef in trouble.

There was no blood on his wife, but blood over all the apartment....

I hope that the german embassy will put pressure the police to speed up the investigation on that case before all the suspects are gone.
They think it was a robbery, but my fiend and his neighbors think it was a planned hit.One day later the place was cleaned by filipinos and his car was gone.....

[QUOTE=Blink157]Hello,
just heard from my friend that a german guy killed in his home. He lives inAC since many years.


He was brutally stabbed to death, his wife was with him, but she had been tied up with a cabel.

When police arrived his wife changed many times her testamonial, if she had ben brought to court she would been find herslef in trouble.
[/QUOTE]

[b]Blink157[/b] Thanks for posting this interesting piece, but this is very much a similar story to what happened to a fellow Brit a few years ago, Steve Davis, by his cheating wife, Evelyn. She had been a bar girl in Angeles City, since arriving from Samar at the age of 14 to start working there. A documentary was made about this case by the BBC and shown on television here about a year ago.

He met and married her then aged 19, in Angeles and then decided to live there in AC after Hong Kong where he had previously been based, living with Evelyn following the marriage.

What surprised me was the lack of enthusiasm or motivation on the part of the police in such a glaringly obvious case. Steve Davis’s family became suspicious when the scheming wife, Evelyn, was asking them just after they had just arrived in the Philippines to view the body, in a mortuary, if the witness had identified anybody to the police as yet, then offering possible reason as to why he (Steve) was gunned down by a possible disgruntled former business partner or employee.

The local Police, throughout this, made the Keystone Cops look like MI5 compared to them, were slow off the mark as at Steve’s flat in Manila how did the killers gain entry when the door was not forced and opened – so how did the killers gain entry without a key? Also how did they know where he was exactly on that night? The police claimed they could not interview witnesses because they didn’t have money for fuel????

Suspicions grew and even her family were convinced she was behind this crime and it was her sister who went to the police with a statement about her husband, who Evelyn tried to recruit to go along to the hit with her boyfriend to make it appear that a business rival had killed Steve.

It turned out Evelyn had a boyfriend who worked at one of the bars in AC and she was using money intended for their son’s private school fees to give to this guy. When Steve found out he threatened unless she sorted herself out and got a job he would divorce her, which in-turn contributed to his demise.

Evelyn’s whole family and friends turned against her believing she was guilty from the start. At her trail not one member of her faimily or any friend stood by her. The moral of the story is, you can take the bar girl out of the bar but note you need to also get out of the city as well.


The only details I can find on this are contained in [url=www.harrythehorse.com/2003/september.htm] Harry the Horse website[/url] Scroll down the site for details

[size=1]By the way [b] Blink157[/b] do you happen to be German?[/size]

This article from the Sun Star. Boys, always be careful.

"ANGELES CITY -- The Angeles City Police and the Tourist Auxiliary Police (TAP) have tightened their watch on members of the "Hustlers Group" who have been divesting huge amounts of cash from foreign tourists in the Balibago entertainment district.

TAP and policemen under the supervision of Superintendent Joselio F. Imperial, Station 4 chief, recently arrested one of the members of the "Hustler Group" after being tagged by a retired US Marine Corps serviceman to be the one who brought him to a house in Marisol Village.

Tourist Billy Eugene May Sr., 59, married, complained that last Tuesday morning, he met a man outside the hotel where he was staying. He reported that the man who befriended him introduced himself as a manager of the hotel.

He added that the same man accompanied him to a moneychanger and, after a while, took him to a residence in a subdivision located across the bridge.

Billy disclosed that upon reaching the house, the group composed of five men offered him to play card games but he refused.

"However, they threatened me that I can not go out of that house if I will not give them money. That after they took my money amounting to P15,000, I was allowed to go outside the house," Billy said.

He said when he stepped out of the house, he saw the arrested suspect asking his driver to drive him to Fields Ave., Balibago, Angeles City.

Billy's case came to the attention of the police after he told of his bad experience to his friends who accompanied him to the police station to report the incident. Billy identified the suspect from a rogue gallery shown to him at the police station."

First trip to the RP was last month. I finished the things I had to do early, so I had 3 nights in Angeles. Hit the bars in Angeles with a pocket full of cash and an open mind. I knew what I was looking for, but was open to new ideas.

Bar #1. Tried to talk with up a girl who was siting alone. Within seconds of asking her name, a waitress was asking if I wanted to buy a lady drink. I told her just a minute; I want to see if I can under stand the girl’s English. The girl was giving one-word answers; the waitress was hovering and frowning so I bailed.

Bar #2. Tried to talk to one of the door girls while the others attempted to drag me inside. Again one-word answers that I think were in English.

Bar #3 - Bar Hoppin. (I realized that I should be paying attention to which bar I was in…) Sub par and small selection of girls. Sat next to a girl sitting alone, struck up a conversation. 5 minutes later her sister sits beside me, I liked the sister better. Few minutes later waitress asks if I want to buy two drinks, I buy one for the sister. No, they didn't give up easy on trying to get me to buy two drinks. Liked the sister’s attitude, her touch, and my reaction. Oops, I should have asked her age long before now. 34!?!?!?. Shit, she looked 25-28. I was shopping for tight, so I moved on. When it became apparent I was leaving, she and her sister and the waitress all tried to convince me that she gave great blow jobs, so I told them I was window shopping and moved on. This was the only bar where the dancers were flashing their titties.

When I was talking to the two sisters, I realized the mood in the room changed. Out of the corner of my eye I saw that all the dancers were looking at the door. In waddled a man-mountain, Porkback Ridge, Jabba the tourist. They eyed him warily as he traversed the room. I guess the rules say that if a customer wants to buy a lady drink, she has to say yes, but whether she lets him barfine her is up to her. By the looks on their faces they didn't even want to suffer through a lady drink. He made one slow lap (as if he could do it any other way) of the room and left.

Bar #4 - Dollhouse. Cuties galore! Couldn't keep my eyes off one dancer, but she was so tiny I feared that a shoehorn and all the lube in the world wouldn't get the visions of splitting a log out of my head. Staff seemed cold and aloof, they were pretty and knew it. I didn't need that and moved on.

Bar #6 - Angels (?). Spotted a tall (5'6"), thin beauty with great lips before I hit my seat. Her shift left the stage by the time my San Miguel arrived, I scooped her up. She was quiet but not too quiet, shy but not too shy and we were able to understand each other and it was getting late. I was hoping for more talkative and lively, but wasn't going to walk away from the girl I'd found most physically attractive this evening

<Boring sex details omitted> ;-) Ok, not all the details. I'm 51, it's been decades since I banged somebody under 25. The difference between young tight asian pussy and Over The Hill Big As A Barn Pussy was enough to convince me want to cash in my 401k and move here ASAP.

Lessons learned.

The phrase 'I'm 'window shopping' puts and end to any conversation with girls who are trying to get me to stay, spend money or walk inside. Everyone understood, and stopped attempting to persuade me.

Talking with door girls at other places resulted in one of two responses, either the girls didn't engage in conversation and just dragged me toward the door while urging me inside or a girl with decent command of English would flirt with me. Unfortunately the flirty ones were older and more shopworn than I was hoping for.

Bars have different character, no surprise. By the end of the night just walking in and doing one slow lap around the place told me a lot of what I needed to know: How pushy were they, were there off shift dancers sitting around, how pretty were the girls and how loud was the music. Too often the music volume was enough for me to move on after one lap.

The girls who approached me and sat down always: 1) Spoke good English, 2) Were not at all shy, 3) Were older. Made the mistake of buying one a lady drink, it became apparent that was her goal. Stopped paying attention to the ones who approached me after that, though I was polite. Didn't want her telling any other girls that I was an asshole.

=== Night 2 ===

Bar #1 - Insomnia. Average girls. One tiny (I mean TINY) 19 year old cutie was obviously having fun on stage, playing with her friends, showing some energy. Loved the way she lit up when I motioned her over. She was talkative, playful and cuddly. Decided pretty quickly to barfine her but hung out for 30 minutes first just to enjoy her happy girlishness.

While waiting for her to change into street clothes, some English chap offered to buy me a beer. Turns out he was the manager. Visited with him for a while, learned a little about the life of an expat in Angeles, he learned what I liked about the bar. The music was R&B, 60s rock when I walked in but later changed to the typical pounding dance music that all the bars play. I asked Graham about his music choice. He said the patrons liked the 60's music but the girls danced better to the modern stuff, so he mixed it up.

Got Marilee back to the room and she went totally shy. I cuddled, wooed, stroked her vanity but I thought it would take a pry bar to get her knees apart. I guessed she wanted to be persuaded with a little more forcefulness so I knelt at her feet and forced her knees apart. Look on her face said BINGO.

After banging for a while, I rolled over to put her on top and it was like a switch was turned on. This passive shy girl became a frenetic little brown fuck machine. Now, this is the kind of aerobics I like to watch. Wore me out, which I'm totally OK with.

Moved her into doggie position to get a better view of her tiny butt and immediately produced a bumper crop of pussy farts. I think she was deeply embarrassed, letting out a loud cry in some language, dropped her face to the pillow and looked like she was trying to burrow into it. Mr. Happy liked that tremendously, much to my pleasant surprise.

She was way too shy to want to do for a second night, so I'm back on the hunt tonight. In retrospect, that was probably a mistake. I’d bet now she’d be considerably less shy on the second night.

=== NIght 3 ===

Went out later than before, didn't hit the first bar, Geckos, until 9:30. Tried asking Mama-San which girls were shy and which were not, she said only one was shy. Right. Picked one who turned out to be easy to talk to but her body language quickly went south, so I left.

Bar #2 - Sir Lancelot. This big place was packed! Couldn't find a place to sit that wasn't buried in a corner, so I kept moving.

Bar #3 - Treasure Island. First thing I noticed was a nude girl with one foot on the floor and one foot on the top of the backrest of a seat and a customer's face planted in her crotch. 'OK', I thought to myself, 'this place has possibilities'. It's a small bar and there wasn't a place to sit until one of the waitresses dragged a girl off a stool and motioned me toward it.

The muff diving customer was occupying three girls, all of who were doing shots. The other two girls had shed their dancer uniforms and were just in thongs. All three were attending to him and each other, I was too far away to tell what was simulated and what was real. About half of the customers were giving full attention to the 4-person show, ignoring the other girls. I had more immediate and personal needs in mind.

At some point I noticed there was a girl crouched down between my stool and the wall, which startled me. Pulled her to her feet, opened my knees and she nestled in and rubbed her butt on Mr. Happy while we talked. After Miss Shy last night, I was looking for someone older and definitely not shy, she qualified. Somewhere about the time she unzipped my shorts and pulled the underwear down to see my unit I decided to barfine her. I like how she referred to the three girls doing shots were 'wild girls', but that she was not. I guess merely stroking an exposed Johnson in the bar doesn't qualify as wild at Treasure Island.

She started undressing before I'd got the hotel room door closed and was not shy about demonstrating her talents and fulfilling my requests.

I can't wait until I have earned enough vacation days for another trip to AC.

[QUOTE=Snake12]This article from the Sun Star. Boys, always be careful.

"ANGELES CITY -- The Angeles City Police and the Tourist Auxiliary Police (TAP) have tightened their watch on members of the "Hustlers Group" who have been divesting huge amounts of cash from foreign tourists in the Balibago entertainment district. [/QUOTE][b]Snake12 [/b] I don’t know how many times we have to keep saying this, but when you are overseas don’t do anything you would not do at home. So how many of you are going to meet a stranger in city and walk with them to an ATM draw out cash and play cards with them, just like that - I don't think so. See [url= www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1991&page=3&pp=15] Post [/url] for more information rather than repeat myself here, scroll down for the bit on crime.

By the way nice post [b] Dancebert [/b] Keep up the good work

Yes, Junior, that is exactly the message I was trying to get across. It's one thing if you or I tell somebody that, but it may hit home better if they read a current report from the newspaper regarding the potential problems and that's the reason for my post.

[QUOTE=Juniour][b]Snake12 [/b] I don’t know how many times we have to keep saying this, but when you are overseas don’t do anything you would not do at home. So how many of you are going to meet a stranger in city and walk with them to an ATM draw out cash and play cards with them, just like that - I don't think so. See my earlier [url= www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=1991&page=3&pp=15] Post [/url] for more information rather than repeat myself here, scroll down for the bit on crime.

By the way nice post [b] Dancebert [/b] Keep up the good work[/QUOTE]

I agree entirely with Snake12. It helps from time to time to hear about a recent scam, even if the situation/scam had been previously reported on this board. It reminds one to keep his guard up.

Even after visiting the PI many times I was nearly the victim of these bottom feeders, i.e., what I thought was an act of kindness turned out to be a slick move.

Nothing wrong with a refresher course now and again - Do not stop and talk with any PI males on the street no matter how kind or sincere they appear. Just keep walking.

[QUOTE=Snake12]Yes, Junior, that is exactly the message I was trying to get across. It's one thing if you or I tell somebody that, but it may hit home better if they read a current report from the newspaper regarding the potential problems and that's the reason for my post.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Juniour][b]Blink157[/b] Thanks for posting this interesting piece, but this is very much a similar story to what happened to a fellow Brit a few years ago, Steve Davis, by his cheating wife, Evelyn. She had been a bar girl in Angeles City, since arriving from Samar at the age of 14 to start working there. A documentary was made about this case by the BBC and shown on television here about a year ago.

He met and married her then aged 19, in Angeles and then decided to live there in AC after Hong Kong where he had previously been based, living with Evelyn following the marriage.

What surprised me was the lack of enthusiasm or motivation on the part of the police in such a glaringly obvious case. Steve Davis’s family became suspicious when the scheming wife, Evelyn, was asking them just after they had just arrived in the Philippines to view the body, in a mortuary, if the witness had identified anybody to the police as yet, then offering possible reason as to why he (Steve) was gunned down by a possible disgruntled former business partner or employee.

The local Police, throughout this, made the Keystone Cops look like MI5 compared to them, were slow off the mark as at Steve’s flat in Manila how did the killers gain entry when the door was not forced and opened – so how did the killers gain entry without a key? Also how did they know where he was exactly on that night? The police claimed they could not interview witnesses because they didn’t have money for fuel????

Suspicions grew and even her family were convinced she was behind this crime and it was her sister who went to the police with a statement about her husband, who Evelyn tried to recruit to go along to the hit with her boyfriend to make it appear that a business rival had killed Steve.

It turned out Evelyn had a boyfriend who worked at one of the bars in AC and she was using money intended for their son’s private school fees to give to this guy. When Steve found out he threatened unless she sorted herself out and got a job he would divorce her, which in-turn contributed to his demise.

Evelyn’s whole family and friends turned against her believing she was guilty from the start. At her trail not one member of her faimily or any friend stood by her. The moral of the story is, you can take the bar girl out of the bar but note you need to also get out of the city as well.


The only details I can find on this are contained in [url=www.harrythehorse.com/2003/september.htm] Harry the Horse website[/url] Scroll down the site for details

[size=1]By the way [b] Blink157[/b] do you happen to be German?[/size][/QUOTE]

AC is no different from other places in Phils. It is a fact that at least 5 local expats have been murdered in Boracay over the past three years. These individuals are well known to those who live there. Common denominator: a Phil wife plus police that look the other way (locals suspect they are paid off by the wife who knows the angles). Notice in the posting that the AC police implied that they needed money for fuel to investigate...nice try! If you have money and stay with a Phil wife in Phil - be very very careful, especially if you get property that is in her name. Even if the wife is actually good, there are plenty of others who will try and influence her, just to get on the gravy chain. Most bar girls have Filipino boyfriends who feed off the girls earnings. Can't blame them, screw the girl and get paid for it! Maybe we should all get paid for permitting girls to use our dip sticks, instead of the other way around!

What does PPD, or PPPD mean? is it Phillipine Pussy Disease?

I checked the abbreviations list but didnt see it there.

[QUOTE=Asia Player]What does PPD, or PPPD mean? is it Phillipine Pussy Disease?

I checked the abbreviations list but didnt see it there.[/QUOTE]From peeping around, PPD may mean "Post Philippine Depression". Got back to States 2 April and still depressed.

I posted the first part of our trip in the Manila thread so here is part 2 and I will continue it later on.

We arrived in Angeles City for a couple of days. I stayed at the Wild Orchid which is a very impressive hotel and I do consider it the best that Angeles City has to offer. They are also in the process of expanding the hotel as well as the Old Orchid, and condos are being built right next to it. I am not sure of this yet but I think the Wild Orchid has made a deal with the company that is building the condo’s to lease there hotel facilities such as the pool to anyone who purchases one of the condo’s. Maybe another member can post more information on this. We first hit Santos Street or what is left of it, and not much action at all was happening on it so we stayed for a very short while. There was one nice looking girl working in the Black Pearl but that was it. We then hit Fields Avenue and checked out the Champayne Club, The Doll House, Treasure Island, Camelot, Dirty Duck and a few more but nothing that really stood out to me at all. We were having a good time as the San Miguels and the Tequila was really going down good, so despite the fact we found no stunners we definitely were making a party. We ended up at the Blue Nile and that place was really hopping, and there were several above average girls there, and unlike the other bars this place has a lot of life in it as soon as we walked in. I ended up with Colleen and she turned out to be a great chic to party the rest of the night away with. We ended up going back to the Wild Orchid and this girl was hot and ready for any action I wanted and she got it. The next morning I told her she had to go at about 11:30 because I had things to do and my time was very limited in A.C and she had no problem with that and actually told me she understood why I was there. I asked her how much I owed her for providing me a great time, and she told me 1500 pesos and away she went.

Hello Friends:

After having had an excellent time together with Bro Ekspat two weeks ago I came back to AC for another two days last week. Checked in at “Orchid Inn Resort” and like always enjoyed a pleasant stay there.

After my arrival I called immediately an old “girlfriend” from Brown Sugar to overbridge the afternoon hours. Had a lot of fun with her and paid 800 pesos for a bbbj plus one round. At 6 pm she left, I took a shower and got ready for the night programme. First a great pizza at Mo’s Place then barhopping to:

Misty’s:
A number of cuties on stage, three definitely worth a barfine, but too early to decide now. After two bottles SM,

Champagne:
As always a lot of customers in there. However, the waitresses did attract me far more than the dancers. Talked to one sweet waitress and got her cellphone number (… just in case of need! Bro Juniour would call that useful approach “networking”).

Ziggy’s:
Good music, but only three pretty girls on stage. Requested a song and after that I went further to

Platinum Bar:
This just 4 months old place right behind Wild Orchid Hotel was a big surprise to me. No customers (!), but dozens of girls around. Damn, even some big shots! Highly recommendable, folks!

Nero’s:
Some drinks with papasan Raimund and finally my barfine. 20 years old, wonderful long legs and good manners. Wow, truly great performance in bed, somehow nymphomaniac! Thank god papasan provided me with some original V otherwise I would have been lost, I suppose! :) Wanted to give her a generous tip in the morning for that extraordinary service, but she declined to accept (uhh, what’s that???)!

Next day:

Gave the waitress from Champagne a telephone call and indeed she showed up at 1 pm. Nothing very special, but perfectly solid sex for the afternoon!

After a little nap barhopping in Perimeter Road. Went among others to Nifty’s where a waitress persuaded me for a bbbj. Maybe not the best idea as I had already relief some hours ago. However, bad luck for the poor girl as she had to work quite hard for more that half an hour to make me come! :) Damage 800 peso.

After a snack at Margarita Station barhopping at Fields.

Lancelot:
Always a good place to be. Nowadays many new dancers on stage. I had also a small talk with papasan Maik who is a very nice guy.

La Pasha:
Crowded like hell. Bad luck, two of my favorite waitresses were not working there anymore. Careful, friends, I could imagine that here are more cherry girls around than in other places.

Brown Sugar:
For sure one of my favorite places in town. A good sound system, friendly waitresses and an interesting line up.

Las Vegas:
Wanted to meet an old “girlfriend” there and indeed I had good luck as she was on duty. Barfined her after one hour or so and went back to my hotel. Like always with her the full programme and a great GFE.


One more hint. Just opposite “Bourbon Street” there is a small turo-turo restaurant where great local food like sinigang, caldereta or embutido is served. The tasty meals cost close to nothing (30 peso) and the best part is that many dancers/waitresses from the bars around drop in for having a little snack. It is a perfect place to contact them “inofficially”.

Have a great time in AC!


Hesekiels

Please ignore the post from Teed On. As most of you know already this is “On The Go” who was recently banished to his own thread. He was also recently banned by Jackson under another handle of Prov01 (which was meant to confuse readers with me) and On The Fly.

If that were not enough he has two more handles by the name of Segundo (Jackson has already deleted many of his posts) and Chivas 1. As you can see this On The Go really has some deep seeded problems to be posting with no less than 6 handles. He claims to have met me which is bullshit. He does seem to post a lot of ladyboy photos which explains a lot about him.

Give it up OTG, you are fooling nobody but yourself and Juniour (which isn't hard to do).

"I asked her how much I owed her for providing me a great time, and she told me 1500 pesos and away she went"

Yikes..you got is ALL wrong. You give her a tip YOU think she deserves for her service.

The following is an good average scale to use:

bad service = 0 tip
average service = 100 to 300 P
good service = 300 to 500 P
great service = 500 to 1000P

No need to over tip.

[QUOTE=Asianlover2]"I asked her how much I owed her for providing me a great time, and she told me 1500 pesos and away she went"

Yikes..you got is ALL wrong. You give her a tip YOU think she deserves for her service.

The following is an good average scale to use:

bad service = 0 tip
average service = 100 to 300 P
good service = 300 to 500 P
great service = 500 to 1000P

No need to over tip.[/QUOTE]

These rates are an excellent benchmark! If we stick to it we won't spoil the market! IMHO, of course.

Hesekiels

[QUOTE=Hesekiels]These rates are an excellent benchmark! If we stick to it we won't spoil the market! IMHO, of course.

Hesekiels[/QUOTE]And 1000 tip is not overtipping? Shit!

That is the equivalent to a barfine on perimeter road.

Please keep in mind what the average wage is in the RP - frequent tips of 500-1000 pesos is going to raise the expectations of the girls and ruin it for everyone in the future. This is a crazy amount of money. If you want to tip like this then go to Manila, but don't do it in AC.

My rule is, no tip. If the girl wants more money then she can come around to my room again that night or the next day or whenever. If I really like her then I'll buy her some lunch or something but that is after she has been with me all night and through the next morning.

[QUOTE=Asia Player]And 1000 tip is not overtipping? Shit!

That is the equivalent to a barfine on perimeter road.

Please keep in mind what the average wage is in the RP - frequent tips of 500-1000 pesos is going to raise the expectations of the girls and ruin it for everyone in the future. This is a crazy amount of money. If you want to tip like this then go to Manila, but don't do it in AC.

My rule is, no tip. If the girl wants more money then she can come around to my room again that night or the next day or whenever. If I really like her then I'll buy her some lunch or something but that is after she has been with me all night and through the next morning.[/QUOTE]

Gently, AP! Don't be upset, mate! :)

Well, 1.000 peso would be indeed too much, insofar I am with you! But take the lower end of this bandwidth and ask yourself how often you really got an excellent service!?

Be honest, mostly the service will be rather on average or good and considering the lower side of the respective range, we are talking about 100 to 300 peso tip for LT now. IMHO that's fair and okay!

Of course you are free to persist in your viewpoint and stick to the strict 'no tip policy'! I would, however, feel a little low to do so, but most likely I am not as callous as you are! :)

Anyway, I look forward to reading the opinions of the other mates!


Hesekiels

I have been to angeles for the first time this year for a fortnight. In general I tipped 500 pesos for good service, if I also liked the girl I brought her to kokomos for breakfast. I also generally gave a few pesos for the trike ride home. I gave one repeat girl a much larger tip on my final night; I don’t think that this was being over extravagant. It was a pittance .My point is that I think it would be very callous of anyone of reasonable means to tip nothing at all.

These girls are only trying to survive like all of us, only they have been dealt a crap hand of cards and have to make the best they can with their lot. I most certainly am not advocating over tipping, but there has to be a happy medium. I detest a mean nature in people who can afford to make another’s life easier by a small gesture.

Just my 2 pesos worth Tom Brack

well said Tom

I guess it's to each his own. The key word here is tipping. it's not the requirement. I usually give more to the girl who least expected it and does all the right things. In AC, never once, a girl asked me for anything more than a tricycle fare, most didn't.
I never tip runners unless I tell them in advance that I only want short time.
Always, I do keep in mind that most of these girl would rather do something else if they can choose. Treat them decently is the biggest tip, sounds corny but I don't give a shit.

[QUOTE=Columpuss]....Treat them decently is the biggest tip, sounds corny but I don't give a shit.[/QUOTE]

It's not corny, treating these girls decent is a benefit to all the other mongers following you and often improves the experience to GFE level. I live by the same creed and it usually pays me back. If you treat them like shit, word will get around about you. Being nice doesn't change the fact that they still need money, so they get cash too. Unless, of course, they complain, whine about leaving early on a LT, or play starfish with you.

nocbj4me

[QUOTE=Hesekiels]These rates are an excellent benchmark! If we stick to it we won't spoil the market! IMHO, of course.

Hesekiels[/QUOTE]Well, I feel it's more rewarding to give my "extra" money to someone who actually deserves it.

I always tip waitresses, leave some money for the cleaning ladies etc. Their work is ten times as hard compared to the work of a prostitute, who already earns at least 15 times amount of money monthly.

I have never tipped a working girl and I never will. And still we have a blast and the girls are very happy to see me the next day and eager to go again. Many even do it for free the second time, especially street girls/semi prostitutes who seem to enjoy my company.

And for the ones who have a guilty conscience for whatever reason, it will surely be a more women keen to work as prostitutes and give up studies, quit their job etc if the income of a prostitute gets even higher then it's already is.

The average salary for a NURSE is 120$ in the Philippines.

Anyway, thanks for all great reports on this forum and bless you all!

Some questions:

Will the girls let you do anal sex? Licking the rosebud?

Also, I always go to Pattaya where there are a lot of ladyboys and gays. I was told that there are no ladyboys or gays in AC--is that correct?

Hate being bothered by LB's

[QUOTE=ern123]Well, I feel it's more rewarding to give my "extra" money to someone who actually deserves it.

I always tip waitresses, leave some money for the cleaning ladies etc. Their work is ten times as hard compared to the work of a prostitute, who already earns at least 15 times amount of money monthly.

I have never tipped a working girl and I never will. And still we have a blast and the girls are very happy to see me the next day and eager to go again. Many even do it for free the second time, especially street girls/semi prostitutes who seem to enjoy my company.

And for the ones who have a guilty conscience for whatever reason, it will surely be a more women keen to work as prostitutes and give up studies, quit their job etc if the income of a prostitute gets even higher then it's already is.

The average salary for a NURSE is 120$ in the Philippines.

Anyway, thanks for all great reports on this forum and bless you all![/QUOTE]

So many guys love to tip and / or overpay. Unfortunately they are really spoiling the market that way. Recently one Burgos waitress said to me "where is my tip?" My response- "what for?". In another bar the waitress stalked off in a sulk when I did not give anything. Do you really want to get the girls like those greedy porters in USA hotels that believe a tip is an absolute god-given right. Pay for REAL service, not one where an employee does their regular job. By the way, Filipinos in restaurants only leave the small coins given in change for the bill. No coins in the change for bill paid, then no tip. Respect the culture and practices of Filipinos in the Phils. I keep hearing people say Phils pay is so low that one feels generous (nurses get US$120 salary). In Phils that is a lot of tax-free money and living expenses are far cheaper than USA, so adjust to the market.

[QUOTE=Fastpiston]So many guys love to tip and / or overpay. Unfortunately they are really spoiling the market that way. Recently one Burgos waitress said to me "where is my tip?" My response- "what for?". In another bar the waitress stalked off in a sulk when I did not give anything. Do you really want to get the girls like those greedy porters in USA hotels that believe a tip is an absolute god-given right. Pay for REAL service, not one where an employee does their regular job. By the way, Filipinos in restaurants only leave the small coins given in change for the bill. No coins in the change for bill paid, then no tip. Respect the culture and practices of Filipinos in the Phils. I keep hearing people say Phils pay is so low that one feels generous (nurses get US$120 salary). In Phils that is a lot of tax-free money and living expenses are far cheaper than USA, so adjust to the market.[/QUOTE]This whole tipping thing is often misunderstood by many guys here, first off no one is putting a gun to your head when asking for a tip. Secondly, the choice is yours, its up to you whether to tip or not to tip. Please note that tipping and overpaying are two very different things.

I, like many other guys here, tip on the delivery of the service, which all depends on the service delivered. Before I do anything I usually negotiate exactly on what I am getting for my money – this clears up any misunderstanding later. A tip may or may not be delivered at the end of service depending on whether the girl raids my mini bar without asking first or gives a decent BBBJ. Fortunately, nine times out of ten I have been lucky with the girls I have chosen and tipped them. Some of these girls are from the Blue Nile will typically come back to my room the following day or couple of days just to hang out with me and fuck for free, its not rocket science.

Overpaying is where a guy will simply open his wallet and pays without any negotiation whatsoever, what some bar girl quotes him and this is where you will find many guys come a cropper, but none these guys tend to post their experiences here. However, I would like to know how this ruins the market if you know how to negotiate? No one yet has proven how a couple of guys overpaying are ruining the market. Because from a simple economic argument all that happens is a yes a few girls are overpaid, they go around boasting about this which attracts more girls into the market and subsequently results in the prices falling overall because the amount of mongers does not rise significantly, but with twice the amount of girls available and one piece of [i]putang[/i] is not that different to another piece of [i]putang[/i] and these girls all have to eat, pay rent and pay off their debts but these overpaying guys are far and few between, so trust me outside of the bars they will accept what they are given.

So the next time a waitress asks you for a tip instead of skulking off and sharing your experience with the rest of the forum I suggest you ask them what they are going to do to earn a tip.

I usually tip between 200-500 peso, but last time this girl who really liked me said this guy had tipped her 2000 peso, but because she didn't like him, it meant nothing to her.

I bought her a cheapo watch for 150 peso, and she went wild with excitment!! Some of these girls are so naive they look upon working in the bar as a way of starting some form of romantic relationship, i know it sounds corny , but its true.

[QUOTE=Juniour]This whole tipping thing is often misunderstood by many guys here, first off no one is putting a gun to your head when asking for a tip. Secondly, the choice is yours, its up to you whether to tip or not to tip. Please note that tipping and overpaying are two very different things.

I, like many other guys here, tip on the delivery of the service, which all depends on the service delivered. Before I do anything I usually negotiate exactly on what I am getting for my money – this clears up any misunderstanding later. A tip may or may not be delivered at the end of service depending on whether the girl raids my mini bar without asking first or gives a decent BBBJ. Fortunately, nine times out of ten I have been lucky with the girls I have chosen and tipped them. Some of these girls are from the Blue Nile will typically come back to my room the following day or couple of days just to hang out with me and fuck for free, its not rocket science.

Overpaying is where a guy will simply open his wallet and pays without any negotiation whatsoever, what some bar girl quotes him and this is where you will find many guys come a cropper, but none these guys tend to post their experiences here. However, I would like to know how this ruins the market if you know how to negotiate? No one yet has proven how a couple of guys overpaying are ruining the market. Because from a simple economic argument all that happens is a yes a few girls are overpaid, they go around boasting about this which attracts more girls into the market and subsequently results in the prices falling overall because the amount of mongers does not rise significantly, but with twice the amount of girls available and one piece of [i]putang[/i] is not that different to another piece of [i]putang[/i] and these girls all have to eat, pay rent and pay off their debts but these overpaying guys are far and few between, so trust me outside of the bars they will accept what they are given.

So the next time a waitress asks you for a tip instead of skulking off and sharing your experience with the rest of the forum I suggest you ask them what they are going to do to earn a tip.[/QUOTE]


The most substantial contribution to this topic, folks! Juniour has hit the nail on the head and from my point of view there is nothing more to add!

I will, however, continue to hand over a decent tip to these girls who served me nicely and made me a happy man. :) They have deserved it just as well as anybody else in the service sector. IMHO, of course!

Hesekiels

[QUOTE=Any Hole]I usually tip between 200-500 peso, but last time this girl who really liked me said this guy had tipped her 2000 peso, but because she didn't like him, it meant nothing to her.

I bought her a cheapo watch for 150 peso, and she went wild with excitment!! Some of these girls are so naive they look upon working in the bar as a way of starting some form of romantic relationship, i know it sounds corny , but its true.[/QUOTE]



to any hole

I always bring candy and chocolate gift box from US and give to the girl in pi
or offer to take them out for dinner or lunch after , I think that is better than
money .


fast eddie 48

This months Margarita Station Newsletter is out, a lot of new construction in AC plus murder, robbery, and the passing of a few expats/tourists.

[url]http://www.margarita-station.com/newsletters/may06/may_news.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]to any hole

I always bring candy and chocolate gift box from US and give to the girl in pi
or offer to take them out for dinner or lunch after , I think that is better than
money .


fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]Yes I know the girls like candy just as much as money, this girl i had from dolls house said could she have one out of the fridge I said sure, anyway when she had gone i looked in the fridge and it was completley wiped out of the 5 toblerones, 3 bars of cadbury, and others!

I like to be the gentleman and take them out for a meal, try to get to know them, make them feel a bit more relaxed and let them think i care about them.

Last time though after a few duff ones i decided i am going into a bar, choose the best looking one, feel her fannny and tits/arse in the bar, tell her I wanted to fuck her brains out and drag her straight to the room, well i did just that from this 18 years old girl from the dirty duck, and do you know what it was the best sex i had ever had for the entire 3 weeks i was there, and i even wore a condom!

She did admitt to me she wanted me to her bar fine her as soon as i walked in the bar, which i suppose helped, she didn't want a tip just asked, if i would see her again sometime, how sweet can they be.

I have visited Pattaya many times and hope some of my posts have helped I am now in a bit of a dilema I have noticed how much the farang lowlife has increased in Pattaya over the years and it has made me think seriously about trying elswhere. Angeles city has been compared to Pattaya before in previous threads my main concern is I am a lover of massage obviously with a happy ending, Is massage available during the daytime in AC and are prices similar to Thailand?

Any advise from members who have visited both places would be great I suspect the farang low life I am talking about hasn't made it to the Phillipines or probably not heard of it!


May the force be with you!

Stick to Thailand if you want massage, mind you I thought Pattaya crap for massage compared to Bangkok.

I too love massage and happy ending, but the massage parlours in angeles are usually staffed with very ugly older women, unless you choose a girl from a hotel night club like Flamingo at the Orchid Inn,but even then they might fuck your brains out, but they won't do a good massage or suck your dick, and swallow the cum.

[b]LukeSkyWanker[/b]

Both countries have their merits and to be honest I like to visiting both countries several times a year, however if you are a thinking of avoiding Pattaya for Angeles City because of the low- life [i]farangs[/i] - then forget it because there are already there.

I tend to prefer Thailand for the shopping, food and the way the sex trade is organised it is what you might call professionally run in parts. However, the Philippines appeals to the romantics, girls can fall in love with you easy or at least pretend too. It’s the only place in the world I know where I can call up a girl after not seeing her for a year and within an hour you know she will be at you place ready to fuck. As long as you are civil and treat the girls right they will hang out with you. This only happens in the Philippines, trust me.

Angeles City is a place where literally ‘anything goes’ you want to sit in a bar and have some girl [i]wanking you off[/i] or sucking your dick as you watch the girls on stage, this is the place where you can get this. Drinking a beer and playing with someone’s pussy or tits here you will find all that. The down side, as has already been pointed out, as a man that likes a good massage myself, is you will not find that up here, its easier to find a girl to fuck than a decent massage, for that you will have to stick with Manila AF1 or Starfleet.

However, because of this openness Angeles City and its anything goes reputation it is now an extremely popular place and I am talking about the room availability because the last three times I have visited at various times of the year its been busy. I am not even sure when the quiet time of the year is anymore and judging by the amount of new hotel opening or being expanded I guess the business and punters are there. But my opinion is that if Philippinos had the business savyness of their Thai cousins this place would be even more popular.

Have to agree with much of what Juniour says about Luke's AC vs Pattaya post: I'll just distinguish it differently:

First: The 'lowlife farangs' in Pattaya are often Europeans who fly direct from Amsterdam, Vienna, Paris or London, direct to BKK. They are there on vacation. In the last few years, the shaved-head, tattooed, drunk and blabbering Englisher, has been the latest and highly visible, spearhead of the British Empire. But there are also 'low rent' visitors from other parts of the prosperous EU. They are temporary, but then, Pattaya is a temporary town. It caters to everyone on a short time basis. Also, the standard of living in Thailand is pretty good. The people don't need to emigrate. Coupled with a strong culture/sense of national identity; the Thais are simply hosts.

The infrastructure is pretty good and everything works close to Western standards.

AC is waaay different. Its strictly Third World. There are many foreigners residing in AC and many are retirees from the US military. The orientedness of the Filipinos themselves is towards the US. So its possible to meet a bar girl and have a relationship with her. She's predisposed towards living in the US anyway. Although PI is technically an Asian country, I've never gotten a sense that the Filipinos have any sense of kinship with their neighbors: everything seems to revolve around the US.

There is no large-scale tourist trade from all corners in AC, like in Pattaya. Its out-of-the way. The only tourists are the sex tourists like ourselves. There's nothing to do but fuck, and lament the surroundings.

Americans are not strangers in the PI. Everyone else is. The girls usually speak English and almost all dream of emigrating to the US.

So to answer Luke's question; the lowlife farangs ARE in AC; they are just a little older and retired. Less in numbers and less visible.

Don

[QUOTE=Juniour]Just to clarify, whether it be money, a meal or cheap chocolates they are all equal to a tip. I only ever give one or the other, and either one is appreciated.[/QUOTE]


to juniour

This only work in pi or thailand , Girl in china and hong kong just want money
money and more money .


fast eddie 48

Thanks for the info so far guys, maybe I will just have to do without my mid afternoon massages and Don the low life Farangs I am refering to are the ones who prefer to fight instead of fuck I am sure this doesn't apply to the retired older gents you are refering to.


May the force be with you guys!

PS anybody can reccomend a good hotel there PM me Cheers.

Anyone who, heretofore, doubted Junior's penchant for smoking exotic substances need only read his recent post below. Wheeeew! The fumes are so strong, they're reaching North America here.

Anyway Luke, the ones who 'prefer to fight instead of fuck' are invariably from England. That's been my experience anyway. Young, white, uneducated, tattooed and drunk. But you won't find any in AC.

But I have to warn you of another category that you might run into. Occasionally you might be approached by someone of the African persuasion, with a British accent, and sporting dreadlocks. If, within seconds, the conversation turns to the subject of purchasing drugs, you know you've run into Juniour the Jamaican.

What to do?

Well, you can't outrun him. Junior has been outrunning the police in London for years, so forget about that.

You could try changing the subject.

Junior is fond of telling us how big he is. You know, down there! Ask him for proof. He'll be glad to oblige, thus affording you the chance to escape.
Its extreme, I know, but it might just work.

Don

[QUOTE=Juniour]
But Austrians – I have yet to meet one in Thailand, I think Austrians only like going to cold places with snow and mountains.[/QUOTE]

I can see Austria has more to celebrate than having the greatest downhill skier of all time, Franz Klammer. It appears not one citizen has had the misfortune of running into Juniour in Thailand. Well, it looks like ISG’s version of “Gorilla in the Mist” is lecturing the “students” again in the fine art of mongering. Don, Thank you for your report on the true comparisons of these two destinations. As usual, Juniour’s behavior is predictable and at the same time amusing. :)

So now Juniour is posting articles from a Tabloid rag in London? I’m glad he gets his information from reliable sources. :)

I like that 'gorilla in the mist' analogy. It has a ring to it.

The 'mist' probably is ganga smoke, knowing Junior.

I'm not sure what the purpose of his latest post was....... but then I don't smoke.

Don

A friend and I just got back from six days in Angeles. Stayed in the Royal Amsterdam (highly recommend). Food: Kokomoz and Amsterdam restaurant. We tried to hit every bar. We spent a lot of time in the 24hr.Doll House playing pool with all the fine girls. I had the best time at Lollipops due to the fun girls. I barfined three times from there and was happy with all. One day we got the bright idea of renting dirt bikes and riding to Subic. We rented two bikes from Kokomoz for only 600 peso each. We had to take the back roads to Subic and that was an adventure in itself. We got there and only had time to get a couple of drinks at The Dixie Tavern before we had to head back. The day was a dirty, sunburned, pray not to wreck bike trip. (And I am crazy enough to do it again). I met Duke at the Alaska club, good guy. Dina was smoking hot that night. Sorry I didn’t take any pictures. Next time I promise to take lots. Right now I am going through Angeles withdraws. I can’t focus on work because of all the memories dancing in my head. I am so jealous of all the expats that live there.

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Nice first post. But I think you got your pics mixed up. That white whale in the pic is actually Surfer, the knowall from Colombia. I'd recognize him anywhere as I've had a few skirmishes with him. Junior, the resident Jamaican, is actually quite a few shades darker. Guinness posted a highly accurate pic of Junior so that boardmembers know who to avoid during their trips. I understand though, Vaiojr. Its easy to get pics of knowall Surfer and knowall Junior mixed up.

In other news:

In between tokes, Junior has applied his considerable brain power to proving his 'multiple ID' theory. But there seems to be a growing backlash against him as new members are joining in the outcry against Junior.

'Junior in the Philippines' would be the logical outcome of this and would settle all problems.

Don

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[QUOTE=Chivas 1]His passion for getting Golden Showers like his friend posted about and backed up with emails from the ISG faggot.[/QUOTE]

Well Piper1, I guess I should have bet you how long it would be before OTG surfaced again. I guess his rowboat still has a leak...:)

[QUOTE=Juniour]
Now you claimed you were with this hooker, you ‘apparently’ paid your typical 3,000 Pesos (first mistake, when the going rate is 1,000 Pesos[/QUOTE]

Juniour, please tell us all where on P. Burgos street a bar fine will cost you only 1000 pesos. To my knowledge the only way you can get that is to have the cost of the ladies drinks deducted from the bill which still nets out to 3000 pesos.

I'm sure you know the answer to this since you claim to have a Masters degree in mongering. :)

Does anyone know this model place on Mac Arthur Highway, you get to it by taking a right out of fields, and it is just past Johnnys supermarket.

They have a big sign up saying model evenings, i will be in angeles in 3 weeks so i can check it out then.

[QUOTE=Prov1]Juniour, please tell us all where on P. Burgos street a bar fine will cost you only 1000 pesos. To my knowledge the only way you can get that is to have the cost of the ladies drinks deducted from the bill which still nets out to 3000 pesos.

I'm sure you know the answer to this since you claim to have a Masters degree in mongering. :)[/QUOTE]Hi,I had one of my friends ask"Earl"about it and the guy was laughing.Dave Stone s places Barfine also cost more then 1000 pesos.So with almost two thirds of the Burgos Bar covered.Where do you get 1000 Barfine??,I am sure there would be many interested to know where exactly Thanks a lot.

[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Hi,I had one of my friends ask"Earl"about it and the guy was laughing.Dave Stone s places Barfine also cost more then 1000 pesos.So with almost two thirds of the Burgos Bar covered.Where do you get 1000 Barfine??,I am sure there would be many interested to know where exactly Thanks a lot.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for clearing the air on this subject. Juniour has once again demonstrated he is full of shit with his mis-information. You can get 1000 peso barfines in other places but not P. Burgos Street.

[QUOTE=Prov1]Thanks for clearing the air on this subject. Juniour has once again demonstrated he is full of shit with his mis-information. You can get 1000 peso barfines in other places but not P. Burgos Street.[/QUOTE]

It's possible that Juniour "accidentally" barfined one of the ladydudes selling Viagra on the streets of P. Burgos and never actually made it into a bar. Just a theory but it's quite possible if you've followed Juniours' "tastes" in other parts of the world. I'll never forget the tranny in Australia he paid $50 for a few months back...sad and disturbing. IMHO of course! :)

Guinness

[QUOTE=Dashing Don]This is worrying stuff for a board dedicated to helping men find women for sex.[/QUOTE]
Yes your right. You and your crew have not posted any useful information here since I have been a member. Please do us all a favor and stop posting all this BS that is spewing from your PC. I guess you guys need to get your jollies somehow. Nobody wants to read this stuff so please cease and desist.

Thanks for your attention

PS: Vaiojr; the fourth stooge?

Greetings all!

I'll be visiting Angeles in late June this year and want to know if anyone can recommend a good hotel. I have previously stayed at the Vistianna Hotel but would like a better hotel this time. Has to be girl friendly and somewhere between 800 - 1200 pesos per night.

Also, is there a Gym in Angeles? A guy told me last time there was a good Gym connected to a hotel in Angeles, had a weights room, pool etc.

Thanks,

Reptile

It’s funny how this Mattrick clown roams around from forum to forum giving his commentary on many posts per day even though nobody is asking for or needs his two cents. He seems to exhibit some of the same attributes of the recently banned On The Go who played the role of “Black Bart” acting like he was looking out after the forum and/or Jackson.

Mattrick, instead of going out of your way to insult new members such as Vaiojr, why don’t you simply use the “Ignore” button so you don’t have to read what others say and they don’t have to read your bullshit?

I’m still waiting for Juniour to explain where barfines on P. Burgos Street are only 1000 pesos which he proclaimed on this thread. Lay off the bong for a while Juniour and answer the question.

[QUOTE=Juniour]Some of you may be interested in this newpaper article from last year:

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"A gang of sleazy Britons are taking control of a tourist town and turning it into a mecca for sex perverts, The People can reveal.

The vile band of degenerates are making a fortune offering girls as young as 11 to British pedophiles - for as little as £10. And with the help of corrupt local officials they have even set up their own Police force to protect their squalid bar and club empire in Angeles City north of Manila in the Philippines. Today The People exposes the evil crew and some of their customers who have turned Angeles into a cess-pit of moral degradation. They are:

Big Billy Newman,55,a 20-stone pervert who claims to be a robber on the run from British and Thai police Debauched Newman - real name Keith William Ensel - runs the Winchester Club. Pointing to one of the 80 scantily-clad teenage girls working for him he bragged to an undercover People investigator: "I took her cherry (virginity) two weeks ago and she won't leave me alone. “When you do that they get dingy and possessive. When that happens it is time to move onto the next one."

Richard Agnew a 45-year-old former sergeant in the Royal Ulster Constabulary Agnew, who co-owns several of the plushest and most profitable girlie bars, is a pal of the local mayor and police chief and has been appointed head of a "trade organisation" to protect the interests of other greedy club owners.

STEVE Hickmott, 48, a convicted soccer hooligan and former general of the feared Chelsea Headhunters. Hickmott has business interests in the girlie bars but like Newman spends hours pawing the "goods" - vulnerable young girls desperate to earn money. The disgusting trio live like latter-day sultans, ruling the roost over Angeles and growing rich from the swarms of impoverished youngsters, some still children, who flock to the town for work.

The town's main industry is prostitution and in its 100 girlie bars a dancer-can be bought for as little as £10 for the night simply by handing over a bar “fine” to the resident pimp. Virgins or "cherry girls" as they are known fetch premium rates but even that is less than the price of a good hotel room.

Newman, from Bethnal Green, East London, named his bar after the Winchester club in the TV series Minder - but the sickening trade that goes on every night bears no resemblance to its telly counterpart.

Newman fled to Angeles after spending almost 20 years running bars in the Thai sex resort of Pataya and lives with a 16-year-old bar girl called Gina.

Speaking in the club decorated nth pictures of fiends Fred West an Brady; Myra Hindley; Dr Harold Shipman, the Yorkshire Ripper and Adolf Hitler; the blotted pervert boasted: “I hold an executive position on trade association”. The Mayor asked to see me when he knew what I had been doing in Thailand and told me he wanted to take advantage of my experience as a businessman. “We now have virtual control of what goes on here.”

Agnew, from Larne, Northern Ireland, has a share in half a dozen hi-tech theme bars with names like Nero's Forum, he Blue Nile and the Cambodia Club. Every night they are packed to the rafters with middle-aged perverts from Britain and other countries. "Uncle Richard", as he is known to the girls, has the go-ahead to set up a volunteer tourist police force following generous donations to police funds. A citation described him as a "friend of the tourist trade" who had "single-handedly united the town's entertainment industry with his organisational skills".

Astonishingly many of the back-slapping cops at the award ceremony had earlier arrested Agnew at gunpoint following a raid on one of his clubs for employing six children aged between 11 and 13 as "comfort girls". After his arrest he shouted: "I was promised there would be no more harassment" But he denies paying bribes to the police. The charges were dropped. Agnew said: "I am not pedophile. Girls lie about their age have never knowingly screwed a child. "All the girls who work for me have to be able to prove their age. The trouble had before was all just a mistake.”

A regular at the Winchester Club has also moved to the Philippine! Pattaya is ex-soccer yob Hickmott from Tunbridge Wells, Kent. He was jailed for 10 years for spraying ammonia in the faces of fans but got out on appeal. A signed copy of his book “Armed For The Match,” which tells of his savage exploits as a soccer hooligan, takes pride of place in the bar. But most of his energies are now devoted towards pawing young girls.

Another pervert exploiting tragic youngsters in Angeles is Barry Edwards, 58, a retired university lecture from Grays, Essex, Edwards a former maths expert at Middlesex University was arrested and charged with raping a 14-year-old Filipino girl in his hotel room. The charges were dropped after he paid police and the girl's parents.

Fellow Angeles resident Douglas Slade,64, is also suspected of bribing police and court officials to get paedophile charges dropped. Slade - a former naval catering officer from Aylesbury, Bucks, who claims he once 'worked on the Royal Yacht Britannia - was caught romping with four naked boys aged between 11 and 14. He was first exposed by The People in the 1970s for being a founder member of a notorious group PAL (Paedophile Action For Liberation).

We asked a senior cop to comment on the scandalous state of his town. Cynically, he said: "The girl gets money and the guy gets what he wants. So what?"

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Taken from the People 15 May, 2005


By Roger Insall[/QUOTE]



No doubt some terrible things happen to children in the Philippines as they do in many places around the world. But I have never seen what I would call children in the bars in Angels City.

I think the reporter and the editor only wanted to get the story printed by making it seem worse than it really is. I have read a few reports of girls who had lied about their age to work in the bars and the bar manager and owners being arrested for this. But they recently changed the law and now the mama-san is also arrested and charged. Now the mama-san's are more strict as they would be charged too.

As to the histories of anyone in the report I have no idea. But as to abuse of under age girls, it is the local Filipinos who abuse the young girls or boys. I know personally of a few girls whose little sisters are pregnant by a Filipino neighbor and no one cares to report or prosecute this. Only if they can get the head lines and money from foreigners do you see any action being taken.

Even the UN makes big deal about this in reports form time to time, so to get large contributions. I doubt nor have I ever seen anyone from the UN trying to help anyone in the Philippines, much less the children. If the UN really wanted to protect the children they would work on forcing the government to prosecute the local men for their atrocities against children, but we all know that neither the UN nor the local Government really care. Or care about children that is, they certainly care lots about the money.

Just my observation.

FF

On The Go is no longer with us and as he was Junior's only friend on ISG, I thought that was it. But lo and behold! The Great Mattrick jumps in with his impeccable analytical skills.

You know, Prov is right. A quick survey of Mattrick's posts show that about the only forum he's not on, is........you guessed it---Burkina Faso.

He's either lecturing or picking fights, and like OTG, desperately trying to make a name for himself. And he's a quirky S.O.B., just like OTG. Easily offended. Sensitive. Anxious to preserve the 'purity' of the board etc. Sounds like deja vu all over again.

Don't miss Junior's lecture to a first-time poster today on the Cebu board. Vintage Junior, he manages to be simultaneously obnoxious and confusing; no mean feat.

Gotta go now. Have to check the Colombia board to see if Surfer has Surfaced.

Don

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[QUOTE=Frequent Flier]No doubt some terrible things happen to children in the Philippines as they do in many places around the world. But I have never seen what I would call children in the bars in Angels City.

I think the reporter and the editor only wanted to get the story printed by making it seem worse than it really is.

FF[/QUOTE][b]Frequent Flier[/b]

Agreed, I happen to think that a journalist’s role these days is to sell more papers rather that present an unbiased report of an event.

On the Paedophile stuff I cannot comment on that because in all the times I have been to AC I have not seen any of that, and would not want too. I guess if this guy flew half way around the world to report that a couple of middle aged men where having the time of their life with some twenty something bargirls for on what $12 a time he would have been thrown out of the office faster than you can say “Hotel Royal Amsterdam”.

I am sure this guy and his photographer (if he took one) lived it up in AC on the newspaper’s expenses and banged as many bar girls as his dick could manage and got paid to do it. No doubt this took him six weeks to put the article together. You could just imagining the conversations he was having when he was reporting back on his progress in AC,

“I am slowly finding my feet here”: (translation: [I]I am just doing up my trousers after being wanked off in the Champagne bar[/I])

“just getting on top of things boss” (translation: [I]I am just about to climb on top and bang some bar girl[/I])

“I have hit the jackpot and I am definitely coming up with the goods”: (translation: [I]I am about to come in the mouth of a Black Pearl Bar girl[/I])

I found the article funny in many ways, because reading it would seems that the British created Angeles City, like it was not there when Clark Air force base was fully operational. The other interesting thing is that is notably absents is the reference to any other foreign bar owners in this article. But I find these articles interesting to read for a non event in my books.

Is anyone else sick of this idiot Prov1, Dashing Don, Guinness, and now Vaiojr?. They are obviously all of one person maybe the senior members here who are sick of there childish behavior will voice there opinion to Jackson, and he will eliminate him and all his ids to there own thread, where they can talk there childish talk. All they do is attack Juniour and now Surfer in EVERY post they make.

[QUOTE=Numero One]Is anyone else sick of this idiot Prov1, Dashing Don, and now Vaiojr?. As they are obviously all of one person maybe the senior members here who are sick of there childish behavior will voice there opinion to Jackson, and he will eliminate him and all his ids to there own thread, where they can talk there childish talk. All they do is attack Juniour and now Surfer in EVERY post they make.[/QUOTE]

Yes, Numero One, I am also fed up with these small minded guys! Very bad habit to insult permanently bro Juniour, anyhow an experienced man who never fails to share a lot of useful information - and this for years!

Truly sad!

Hesekiels

This is not what this board is supposed to be about.

Can't we all just get along and post what is important, i.e., pertinent mongering information.


QUOTE=Hesekiels]Yes, Numero One, I am also fed up with these small minded guys! Very bad habit to insult permanently bro Juniour, anyhow an experienced man who never fails to share a lot of useful information - and this for years!

Truly sad!

Hesekiels[/QUOTE]

I will not allow myself to be drawn into the flame wars that are now taking place but I do want to clarify a report that was made in the complaint section by Prov1. He states that because I voiced my opinion that his ids have corrupted this site, I must now be On The Go. I want to state here that I am not On The Go, but a monger who is fed up with all the bullshit that is being posted by him and his many characters, and I would like this site to return to a informative and friendly format. I am sorry if voicing my opinion has created more havoc, and it is because of characters like this guy that I do not post. Why? to be attacked and have false accusations made against me. No thank you. I again encourage all other members to contact Jackson if you are fed up with this guy and his many characters.

I do not post often, but have been a member for a while. The pictures posted of a slave in chains is in total bad taste. Race should not be of any concern to anyone! It takes a small man to do crap like that. This forum is about the enjoyment of our sport. No more, no less. Juniour has provided posts that are informative to the advancement of our cause. I for one enjoy his accounts of his ventures. They are informative for new people like myself. I do not care if he is black, white , purlple or blue, his posts are helpful in knowing what is what. Juniour, I've got your back. Keep on keep'n up!

Go Low Golf

PS I for one have already emailed Jackson on this matter.

Thank you Jackson for deleting Vaiojr's posts. It's about the sport. No more, no less.

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It seems to me that nobody travels to AC anymore, or why are there no postings for such a long time!? I would really like to read some news about the 'promised city'!

Cheers

Hesekiels

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I have been posting for 2-3 years now in the Thailand, Cambodia and Bangladesh forums. This time I will spend 4 days in the Philippines (May 25 - 28) before flying to BKK. I note the AC forum has been "tied up" with other concerns recently so there is not a lot of current info on AC.

I think I have a decent feel for the place but would appreciate any new info you think I might need. Suggestions are welcome. I'm thinking maybe I will go to AC when I arrive on the 25th and spend 2-3 nights, then go to Manila and spend a night or two there before leaving for BKK on the 28th.

Any suggestions for a failrly seasoned monger who has never dallied in the Philippines?

Thanks, LJohnson

Well, if you've played in Thailand, it will all come very natural. I prefer the Philippines because they speak English.

If you have any specific questions, please ask...

Positive side:
1) you can expect to have real conversations in the Philippines, none of those stupid games they play in the Pattaya beer bars. If you like games, some of the ladies play a mean game of billiards.
2) I've never been sick in the Philippines, even after salads and some tap water ingestion. In Thailand I've been godAwful sick.

Negative: a bit more risk of theft/crime, less infrastructure, rougher edges, etc. But the things that I really MISS about Thailand:
1) Thai food. (I'm talking about taste, not side effects)
2) Thai women are more beautiful, better proportioned and more than a few ADULT women, who are very much of age....have almost no body hair. Naturally, of course...no 5 o'clock shadows!
3) Beer bars: Why doesn't anyone do this in the Philippines?
4) Alternative activities: beaches, historical sites, shopping...did I mention how good the food is...

Well, I'm going on and on....but Lj already knows about Thailand. I'll be looking forward to hearing about his experiences.

X

Hey LJ, I had gone to alot of other southeast asian countries before recently making my first trips to Angeles this last 6 months. I read the reports and felt mentally prepared for Angeles. First off, it's alot like Pattaya in that it's almost all gogo bars with a few blowjob bars in a few spots. It's a lot smaller though. Also, the transportation is limited mainly to jeepneys like the baht buses and then for hire trike drivers. There are no real taxis driving around and it's not really needed for the most part. On my first trip last november I was really disappointed in the quality in the beginning of the trip. I was like this is horrible. So many women were older and fatter then I was used to. It changed as time went on as I was there. I just recently came back from my second trip and had a blast. The quality of women seemed better overall. I found many sweeties. The main thing I wanted to say is that I doubt two or three days will give you enough time to really make a decision on whether you like Angeles or not. I am glad I didn't give up from my first trip. I have to agree that a bar can change from day to day. One day it might be crap. The next day might be great. The women seem to come and go back to their provinces or whatever and just don't come in to work. It makes a difference on who's in the bars. I used to make a judgement on bars from the first visit if it's worth going to later on again or not. I was surprised when going back to some bars that I had written off, although I walked through some bars because I was showing someone around and said what the hell? I was shocked how the atmosphere and quality in some of the bars changed from two weeks prior. All I'm saying is I think you should be patient with Angeles and give it time. The main problem with Angeles is that there isn't much to do during the day. The food isn't that great versus Thailand. There are some very nice places to eat, but the budget places to eat are not that great in quality in my view versus Thailand and some other countries. Unlike X Man, I felt I actually got a little sick from the food and I play it very safe. It isn't real bad diahrrea but it seems to happen when I go there. Also, one other thing. For some reason, the women there even though they spoke better english than say the Thais. Some didn't seem to understand some of the joking around I did, and took things too seriously and got upset. I have rarely ever run into such a problem until the Phillipines. Anyway that's my view.

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Just back home in Bangkok from a week in AC and some brief observations. I go there once or twice a year and enjoy the differences from here in Thailand.

The Orchid Inn got my business for probably the last time. I can't count how many times I have stayed there in the past, always in the Deluxe Jasmine wing rooms (45 dollars, less 10% discount, plus 10 percent tax, including breakfast buffet). The new posted rates are $49 plus 12 percent tax, no breakfast which I think is way too much.

Air conditioning did not work for a couple of days and lots of other issues, plus just not that clean. It seems as though they are pulling cash out of the place with no upkeep. Next fall it is the Central Park for us.

New buildings and changes all the time, but still an enjoyable little shit hole filled with simple Filipinas. That is the part that I enjoy - the trip back to junior high school. Initial quality was a bit off, but as the week wore on we found our share of more than acceptable sweeties. The body fat ratio continues to climb each year and the Jollybee brigade gets lots of new members it seems.

Actually found some girls this trip without cell phones, if you can believe it, but I tend to go for the young sweet types and there is always a new supply from the provinces of what I am attracted, so no complaints.

Bars much the same, although the more they change the more it seems to stay the same. More Asians everywhere from the direct flights from Korea and Singapore. That will undoubtedly be the future for what used to be essentially an American place, with a few of the rest of us thrown in.

Going back in November for more of the same and expect that the following years will see me again and again.

All,

I also just returned from a week in Angeles city. As a frequent Thailand runner I really made my first two days miserable by making all the compairasons to Pattaya, Phuket, BKK but after I got over the fact that this was not Thailand I was having a great time.

I stated at the Wild Orchid Resort which is the newest and best hotel in AC. New, clean, beautiful pool, and free internet in each room and wireless down by the bar. I could not beat the location as right accross the street were the blow job bars. I have to give the PI the thumbs up on the blow bars as you don't have to put on a condom for a blow job like you do down in Pattaya soi 13/2. These girls are so much more talented then the ones in Thailand in BJs also.

Thailand still has a better infrastructure and using an ATM in AC is quite a headache. Each person takes at least 5 minutes if not longer and that is only if you can find an ATM that takes your card or is not offline. ATMs were the biggest headache of the trip.

Girls were okay, picked a few cuties. Some talented, some not. Loved the fact that they can speak english even though I can speak Thai.

All in all a good trip which I will do again.

Just got back last month from a 3 month stay in the PI.
Thought I'd give you all a brief update of AC.
The Blue Nile group is building a bigger and better Blue Nile II Where the old Tophat used to be. Promises to be better than BN Executive (per the mangers in BN).
"Blow Job" row (see map- [url]http://www.acmap.com/map.asp?map=f5[/url]) (down the street from Mo's Place) is now reduced to half it's size since the Wild Orchid Hotel has torn down the whole left hand side of the street in order to build a new complex.
There's more street walkers in this area now with a more 'Billyboys, underagers and druggies.
Generally- I found that there's more 'Cherry girls' and few more fat girls in the clubs.
Prices for the barfines are P1200 on Fields Ave. except for the small clubs on most of the Perimeter road.
Futher down Perimeter road (towards Friendship gate) there's more Korean Clubs (Karaoke bars) and dining places.
Oasis Hotel has a club beside the entrance that has a cover charge (food and drink are deducted from the cover charge) and solo dancers (Approx 25-30 y.o.) doing fully clothed dance routines- many GI's seemed to be the norm. I was the only guy there with a dancer from another club- she was an 18 year old who made the gurls here look old and not so pretty lol.
SM Mall is almost completed near the main gate (rumuored to soon be the biggest in Asia with more building extensions scheduled to be phased in).
Overall
Champane has moved their girls to Club Camelot and visa versa- The manager of Champane is trying to revive Camelot with his energetic bunch of beautiful bouncing bunnies!
Bananitas and many other clubs are closed or changing hands.
Ana Lisa at La Bamba is a good looking 22 y.o. and enthusiastic 3 holer. She and her friends will strip down, dance and play with you right at your booth after a few Tequilas (good entertainment while you down a few).
Overall it was a slow season and half empty clubs with girls waiting for the 'high season' to start.
Happy Mongering!

Oh, man, what I could do in three months...

Thanks for the great post Storm. I haven't been in AC for a while, but I feel like a Hobbit wearing that friggin ring whenever I read a post like yours.

I hope you didn't spend the whole 3mo in AC. I'm looking forward to some interesting trip reports.

Three months! OH, man....

x

Yeaah, really looking forward to my next trip to AC coming Friday onwards for 2 weeks.
Get the ladydrinks and girls ready....
Cheers!

[QUOTE=StormLtng]Just got back last month from a 3 month stay in the PI.
Thought I'd give you all a brief update of AC.
The Blue Nile group is building a bigger and better Blue Nile II Where the old Tophat used to be. Promises to be better than BN Executive (per the mangers in BN).
"Blow Job" row (see map- [url]http://www.acmap.com/map.asp?map=f5[/url]) (down the street from Mo's Place) is now reduced to half it's size since the Wild Orchid Hotel has torn down the whole left hand side of the street in order to build a new complex.
There's more street walkers in this area now with a more 'Billyboys, underagers and druggies.
Generally- I found that there's more 'Cherry girls' and few more fat girls in the clubs.
Prices for the barfines are P1200 on Fields Ave. except for the small clubs on most of the Perimeter road.
Futher down Perimeter road (towards Friendship gate) there's more Korean Clubs (Karaoke bars) and dining places.
Oasis Hotel has a club beside the entrance that has a cover charge (food and drink are deducted from the cover charge) and solo dancers (Approx 25-30 y.o.) doing fully clothed dance routines- many GI's seemed to be the norm. I was the only guy there with a dancer from another club- she was an 18 year old who made the gurls here look old and not so pretty lol.
SM Mall is almost completed near the main gate (rumuored to soon be the biggest in Asia with more building extensions scheduled to be phased in).



to storm ltng

The new SM mall clark is only 25% of the size of mega mall in manila ,The new
SM mall of asia in bay city metro manila just open is the largest in pi just a bit
larger than SM mega mall , You can't compare the mall in pi to mall in hong
kong or bangkok just no way.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_shopping_malls_in_the_Philippines[/url]

fast eddie 48

Has any one seen this gal? She says she lives in the anglese area. I been planning to visit the phills around July or aug with some buddies and she is wanting to meet me. Meet her on the net. She has the attitude of a bar girl but claims she is a perfect virgin. But after an hour of chatting she gets naked for me with the web cam.

[QUOTE=StormLtng]Overall it was a slow season and half empty clubs with girls waiting for the 'high season' to start.
Happy Mongering![/QUOTE]

Low season? Izzit?
I couldn't see much difference so far between seasons in AC.
And I've been there meanwhile almost every month.
When is high season to be considered?

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Vision Guy]Has any one seen this gal? She says she lives in the anglese area. I been planning to visit the phills around July or aug with some buddies and she is wanting to meet me. Meet her on the net. She has the attitude of a bar girl but claims she is a perfect virgin. But after an hour of chatting she gets naked for me with the web cam.[/QUOTE]

Vision Guy;

Is this your first trip to Angeles? If it is, I do hope you understand that Angeles, Manila, Cebu, etc. have thousands of girls to chose from. Many of which are 7's , 8's and 9's. Are you sure you want to commit to meeting someone on your first stay? I think you may regret locking yourself in to a girl before you arrive and get to see the rest of the playing field.

Just my 2 cents.

AT2

AsiaTraveler2

No way I plan to commit to her. I plan to play the grounds. I was just wondering if any one has ever seen her or had her? But thanks for the advice.

In a previous post someone metined "Illusions." Where exactly is it? I have heard of it but never stopped.

[QUOTE=Billpsu]In a previous post someone metined "Illusions." Where exactly is it? I have heard of it but never stopped.[/QUOTE]


to billpsu


illusions bar is at perimeter rd ,It used to be private dancer bar same owner there are day time action but quality is poor day or night .


fast eddie 48

[QUOTE=Vision Guy]Has any one seen this gal? She says she lives in the anglese area. I been planning to visit the phills around July or aug with some buddies and she is wanting to meet me. Meet her on the net. She has the attitude of a bar girl but claims she is a perfect virgin. But after an hour of chatting she gets naked for me with the web cam.[/QUOTE]No way that girl is a virgin and looks like she has had at least one child. Also, if she is on the net, how is she paying for it? She is not attractive enough to have a lot of spending money. There is a internet cafe there that is in the business of fleecing foreigners, she probably works there.

Why would you meet her in the first place when there are 100's of more attractive and interesting girls available there?

Don't waste time on these internet girls. I had 10 hot ones lined up before last trip and didn't contact any of them once I got there. There were too many within arms reach. They will probably cost you more time and money than just hitting the bars. If you do, just ask them to come to your hotel for some hugging and kissing(just a ruse). If they balk, forget them. They are time wasters.

If you want someone to show the ropes in Angeles City, I'll set you up with a friend of mine there and he'll take you barhopping. He gets bored after a year in paradise, so he's happy to have some company. He knows most of the Perimeter Bar owners and has the dope on what to avoid. We had a great time one night with 2 other guys. We barfined 8 girls and the 4 of us fucked the shit out them for 7 hours. I've never done anything like that before and it was funnier than shit. There were about 40 red condoms on the floor when all was said and done.

I found a great girl when I was there. She was a semi-steady barfine. She was great for barhopping, playing pool, and of course great in bed. She would help me find another girl for 3 somes. Some days I would send her to work and short time someone in the afternoon, then pick her up later. This sytem worked really well.

[QUOTE=Vision Guy]Has any one seen this gal? She says she lives in the anglese area. I been planning to visit the phills around July or aug with some buddies and she is wanting to meet me. Meet her on the net. She has the attitude of a bar girl but claims she is a perfect virgin. But after an hour of chatting she gets naked for me with the web cam.[/QUOTE]

She looks familiar, is her name Lily? if so, she has 4 kids
OD

Firewalker,

I hear ya, I just wanted to catch her in a lie. If I go there I dought I will see her, like you said I know there are too many girls there to be with only one. I been to subic in the 1990's when I was in the navy. But I plan to go again this year to have fun again. If your buddy or you hook up with me, drinks will be on me.

Orgasm doner, well you might be right, she claims her name is May. And I thought alll along she has a kid or two. But of course like alot of other net girls she says she is a virgin. She has asked me to send her money and I said no way.

Hi to all,
maybe a little off topic. If somebody wants to stay in angeles city during July/August Im offering my apartment for rent cause Im moving to another one, just want to finish the contract.

rent is 6000 pesos per month plus elictricty and water, no deposit. Paid directly to the owner. Aircon inclusive., not furnished. Newly built, airy Location near robinson mall. Maybe 10 minutes with trike to nightlife district.

Contract can be extend after speaking directly to owner.

Please PM me for further info.

Hi all,

being back from Angeles, some updates.

IMHO Insomnia has improved as well as Limited Edition.
Matrix Brawn has now a new room in the back,
no more BBBJ in the bar, definitely worth a downgrading.

Insomnia did an evening with prices 20years back,
SMB 25ps, barfine 600ps, not too bad :D

Bananitas is called Typhoon now,
not that great, when I visited, but let's wait how it develops.

Dollhouse offers Photoshooting on Wednesdays,
nice opportunity to take some pics of the girls.
Use a strong flash to lighten it well balanced.
I recommend Nikon SB-800, fantastic results.

I hardly made it down to Fields, lets say east of Dollhouse,
so no updates there, I've preferred Perimeter Road.

Will be back late July.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Billpsu]In a previous post someone metined "Illusions." Where exactly is it? I have heard of it but never stopped.[/QUOTE]

Billpsu,
if you come from fields westwards along perimeter road, it's a few meter before Garfields and where you turn left to eg. Club Rio. See attached.
But it's nothing to shout about. Just average.
Cheers!

[QUOTE=Ekspat]Hi all,

being back from Angeles, some updates.

IMHO Insomnia has improved as well as Limited Edition.
Matrix Brawn has now a new room in the back,
no more BBBJ in the bar, definitely worth a downgrading.

Insomnia did an evening with prices 20years back,
SMB 25ps, barfine 600ps, not too bad :D

[/QUOTE]

Hi Ekspat!

'Insomia have mercy upon us'! :)

That's exactly the way how to please oldsters ...lol...! Hopefully it becomes a regular event!


Cheers - Hesekiels

Hi All,

I'm new to this forum & actually just found it recently while visiting Angeles for the first time. While I've definitely enjoyed my stay, one problem I've had here is with condoms. I've tried several different brands here, but they all seem kind of small. Although I don't think I'm overly huge, the damn things tend to break on me after more than a few minutes use. Does anyone know of anywhere in Angeles that sells American condoms? I've looked in several stores, but no luck so far.

I'll be posting some reports about some of the fun I've had in Angeles & Manila as soon as I have better Internet access (just checking e-mail, etc. at Internet cafes for now).

[QUOTE=Steve74]Hi All,

I'm new to this forum & actually just found it recently while visiting Angeles for the first time. While I've definitely enjoyed my stay, one problem I've had here is with condoms. I've tried several different brands here, but they all seem kind of small. Although I don't think I'm overly huge, the damn things tend to break on me after more than a few minutes use. Does anyone know of anywhere in Angeles that sells American condoms? I've looked in several stores, but no luck so far.

I'll be posting some reports about some of the fun I've had in Angeles & Manila as soon as I have better Internet access (just checking e-mail, etc. at Internet cafes for now).[/QUOTE]

Hi Steve74:

You are absolutely right, the quality of local brands is rather lousy! Once I bought imported stuff at Mercury Drug in Manila which was perfectly ok! However, in AC I failed several times to find high-quality material.

Cheers - Hesekiels

@Steve74,

I remember reading somewhere that Japanese brand condoms are available and they tend not to break as easily as the local brand.

If you read about J condoms here, it might have been from me, but I didn't say you could buy them in PI. Maybe you can, I don't know.

What I believe I posted is that they are thinner than Am. condoms. That may make them more breakable, but I never had a problem except for a couple years ago when that Thai girl was on top riding me like a bucking bronco.

Most recently I used a super thin .002mm condom from Japan made by Sagami ([url]www.sagami-gomu.co.jp[/url]) , but wasn't happy. The label says "non-rubber" so maybe theyre using a new material.

[QUOTE=Darth Sushi]@Steve74,

I remember reading somewhere that Japanese brand condoms are available and they tend not to break as easily as the local brand.[/QUOTE]

Guys,

Has anybody experience with the Viagra/Cialis stuff that is sold by local street vendors? As it costs close to nothing I wonder if it is just faked material without any effect?! By the way, the best offer I got recently was 500 pesos for 4 boxes C plus 1 box V.


Cheers- Hesekiels

I personally bought some Cialis on the street before and I didn't think it worked at all for me. I bought some real Cialis in Bangkok and it was amazing. It was dirt cheap on the streets in Angeles and a friend of mine who lives there said his friends have bought and said they felt they were real. For that price you might want to give it a try for a box of Cialis and Viagra. I figure the Viagra is more easily copied than the Cialis. I wouldn't buy as many boxes as you are being quoted for until you know you are getting the real deal. I doubt that they are though at least for the Cialis.

I bought some Cialis 20 mg in the street 2 years ago and man, they (it) worked more than 36 hours on me! I only used 1 tablet for 2 days and was harder than ever (probably I would have had a good time also without it, but I wanted to try) Sadly I had to return to Manilla the third day. I think I bargained 4 tablets to abt US $ 7? The tablets are still in my possession and if I will try another time, I will take half a tablet.
Good luck!



[QUOTE=Key Master]I personally bought some Cialis on the street before and I didn't think it worked at all for me. I bought some real Cialis in Bangkok and it was amazing. It was dirt cheap on the streets in Angeles and a friend of mine who lives there said his friends have bought and said they felt they were real. For that price you might want to give it a try for a box of Cialis and Viagra. I figure the Viagra is more easily copied than the Cialis. I wouldn't buy as many boxes as you are being quoted for until you know you are getting the real deal. I doubt that they are though at least for the Cialis.[/QUOTE]

Re: Condoms. I always bring my own and dread the thought of them running out. Am a fan of the Durex Avanti polyurethane type, which I haven't seen being sold anywhere in southeast Asia, even though many places have other Durex types. It also can be a bit difficult to find in the U.S., and many stores that have it will mark it up to $2 or so each. Online you can get 6-packs at shopinprivate.com for about $1.20 a unit. Very thin, and conducts body heat much better than latex.

After they first came out the things would suffer a high breakage rate, but that seems to have improved significantly in recent years.

Trojan also has a Supra polyurethane brand, but I don't think it's nearly as sensitive as the Durex.

Has been years since I've used Sagamis, but they seemed exceptionally break-prone.

I dread having to use the locally-produced stuff in any of the southeast Asian countries (especially Cambodia).

You should ask for international size condoms.

In Manila I had a girl buy the condoms and she came back with the regular for pinoys, and they were VERY TIGHT (small). However, in the lobby-shop in Shangri-La Makati they sell the international size. Still the same brand, but can't recall the name (I am aware that I am posting in the Angeles-thread, but just posting a hint for what to look for).

[QUOTE=Steve74]Hi All,

I'm new to this forum & actually just found it recently while visiting Angeles for the first time. While I've definitely enjoyed my stay, one problem I've had here is with condoms. I've tried several different brands here, but they all seem kind of small. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Masahiko]All,

I also just returned from a week in Angeles city. As a frequent Thailand runner I really made my first two days miserable by making all the compairasons to Pattaya, Phuket, BKK but after I got over the fact that this was not Thailand I was having a great time.

I stated at the Wild Orchid Resort which is the newest and best hotel in AC. New, clean, beautiful pool, and free internet in each room and wireless down by the bar. I could not beat the location as right accross the street were the blow job bars. I have to give the PI the thumbs up on the blow bars as you don't have to put on a condom for a blow job like you do down in Pattaya soi 13/2. These girls are so much more talented then the ones in Thailand in BJs also.

Thailand still has a better infrastructure and using an ATM in AC is quite a headache. Each person takes at least 5 minutes if not longer and that is only if you can find an ATM that takes your card or is not offline. ATMs were the biggest headache of the trip.

Girls were okay, picked a few cuties. Some talented, some not. Loved the fact that they can speak english even though I can speak Thai.

All in all a good trip which I will do again.[/QUOTE]

My buddy and I are thinking about heading out to Angeles in July. We have both been to Thailand (I've been there about eight times and him, once). I kind of find that I'm trying to convince myself that going to the P.I. is a good idea over Thailand. We both love Thailand and live in utter dispare for a month after leaving, but we want to get our feet wet elsewhere. I've been to the P.I. once and spent less than 24 hours in Manila, witht the remaining balance of my visit being solely in Boracay (for two weeks). Of course I've been reading all the reports about Angeles and how it compares to Thailand, etc, etc and I'm glad to here that Masahiko shared and was able to get over some of the same reservations I'm having.

I think the major factor is that I will be new to the ropes in Angeles. I haven't been to the city, the girls are different from Thai girls; it's a unique seen. My major concern is that my buddy and I will look at each other with a , "what have we done", kind of face and regret not b-lining our way over to Pattaya instead. I know Pattaya like the back of my hand, and am sure that'd we'd have a good time, but I'm trying to expand our horizons. Here's the pluses and minuses I've come up with:

Pluses:
-Angeles has the gogo and bar/bargirl equivalent of Pattaya, so there is variety, 'a plenty
-Pinays speak passable English which rids you of playing the language game
-Prices are cheap, just like in Thailand
-Girls are generally more voluptuous than Thaigirls, e.g. more ass and titties
-Consensus seems to be that Pinays are generally sweeter than Thai girls, on average

Minuses:
-No beach and limited daytime activities
-Pinays speak passable English possibly requiring you to conversate with them
-Consensus seems to be that Pinays are generally a bit more hefty and not as pretty as Thai girls, on average (beauty is obviously in the eye of the beholder, but lets go with this for the sake of argument)
-We (personally) don't know the ins and outs of Angeles city
-Crimes occur more frequently in the Philippines than Thailand
-Popular opinion is that the cheapie foods aren't so great, unlike the cheapie foods in Thailand that taste wonderful

Guys, am I missing something here? Is this shit worth diverting our time and money away from the likes of Pattaya and Phuket?

Here's what we're looking for
-As little logistical, girl/dating, tout/hustler hastle as possible
-Lots of sex group sex, we will probably train every girl we bring back and we want to bring back more than one at a time
-Something to do during the day! We're not picky but we'd like to have something to do besides stair at the wall until the sun goes down
-Safe party environment without a huge possibility of getting jacked
-Decent food
-A good experience that will be unique to Angeles City and that won't make us regret not going to Thailand

If you guys have any thoughts, share them. Especially you Angeles veterans out there. Thanks in advance.

Jride

[QUOTE=J Ride]

Here's what we're looking for
-As little logistical, girl/dating, tout/hustler hastle as possible
-Lots of sex group sex, we will probably train every girl we bring back and we want to bring back more than one at a time
-Something to do during the day! We're not picky but we'd like to have something to do besides stair at the wall until the sun goes down
-Safe party environment without a huge possibility of getting jacked
-Decent food
-A good experience that will be unique to Angeles City and that won't make us regret not going to Thailand

If you guys have any thoughts, share them. Especially you Angeles veterans out there. Thanks in advance.

Jride[/QUOTE]
I've been visiting both countries since '89; typically visit each once a year. And I lived in Manila for 6 months in '98. I was last in Angeles in 2002 and Pattaya this year. I prefer Pattaya over Angeles, and Pattaya must be 200 times larger than Angeles. I guick google for Angeles bars finds a list for 118. I think you could add 2 zeros to that tally for Pattaya--beer bars and gogo bars together. Caveat: I've only stayed at Angeles for, at the most, 5 days at any one time--there are many other active on this board who swear by the place and stay there much longer.
1) I don't find either country a hassle regarding touts. If you've ever been to India or Pakistan every other place in Asia is easy.
2) I've had group sex in both countries, and I think the Thais are much more accepting of it and superior participants. I've had some bad experiences in the Philippines where one girls wants to wait in the bathroom until it's her turn; never had this hassle in Thailand. I think Angeles has many more below-average looking girls compared to Manila, Bangkok & Pattaya. Angeles is cheaper for a long time.
3) In Angeles you can golf. There is(was) an ultra-light aircraft school in Angeles also. It does (did) flights over Pinitubu. Thailand has many more golf courses than the Philippines. Both have excellent cable TV. Pool and darts are common. I think swimming pools are important, and Thailand is better than Angeles. I think Angeles, being smaller, has a decent social scene, particularly at the Swagman hotel. North of Angeles is the Banawe rice terrances and a nifty place named Sagada. Subic is not worth a visit, but if you're there for two weeks you may want to visit to do the U-turn.
4) I think both are safe. I've been to both, alone, frequently, and I haven't had any issues. And I drink heavily whilst on holiday. I know others haven't been as fortunate. YMMV.
5) I think Thai food is better, and you also get a greater variety of foreign food and better restaurants in Thailand. However, there is (was) a great BBQ place in Angeles owned by retired US military man.
6) I prefer Thailand to the Philippines for intangible reasons. There's an air of desperation that exists in the Philippines that isn't as palpable in Thailand. Every few years this works for me, but most often it doesn't. I am also not interested in hearing the girls' "sad stories", so the Filipinas' English skills don't work for me.

I personally think 2 weeks at any one place is too long. Thailand offers more places to visit within a few hours travel than does the Philippines, particularly Angeles.

All the above being said, Angeles is worth a vist, but I don't think it it offers enough to be the only reason for a visit.

Hustori,
Thanks for the info. The concerns you listed are definately what I've worried about. I think we'd have a good time in either place, but Pattaya is definately the winner over Angeles.

It's still up in the air at the moment. We're still more motivated to go the the P.I. because my buddy has a girl in Tland and she knows everybody, or seems to. Anyway, thanks again.

Jride

[QUOTE=hutsori] I've only stayed at Angeles for, at the most, 5 days at any one time--[/QUOTE]

Agree, 5 days is a good choice to stay there. Lets say you'll get up around 11am, take shower and breakfast. After breakfast it's 1pm and then? The only thing to do at daytime is.... Yesss, just simply start the evening rather early, around 2-3pm beginning barhopping, beer drinking and the girls, hehe.
Without doubt that isn't the worst day I can think of, but after doing this for a week or so...... Give your liver a break! :D

[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Guys,

Has anybody experience with the Viagra/Cialis stuff that is sold by local street vendors? As it costs close to nothing I wonder if it is just faked material without any effect?! By the way, the best offer I got recently was 500 pesos for 4 boxes C plus 1 box V.

Cheers- Hesekiels[/QUOTE]We bought the 20 count 50mg. boxes on street(negotiated down to 500 pesos) and it was real deal. We also bought the 100mg once for 500, but were assured we couldn't get that deal again from the main suppler for all the vendors. They get it from Manila.

[QUOTE=Ekspat]Agree, 5 days is a good choice to stay there. Lets say you'll get up around 11am, take shower and breakfast. After breakfast it's 1pm and then? The only thing to do at daytime is.... Yesss, just simply start the evening rather early, around 2-3pm beginning barhopping, beer drinking and the girls, hehe.
Without doubt that isn't the worst day I can think of, but after doing this for a week or so...... Give your liver a break! :D[/QUOTE]


Good advice. 5 days would probably do it, then we could balance out the trip with Manila or some other destination. And, Amen, the liver definately deserves a break....

[QUOTE=J Ride]Good advice. 5 days would probably do it, then we could balance out the trip with Manila or some other destination. And, Amen, the liver definately deserves a break....[/QUOTE]


Hi J Ride and Ekspat:

After 5 busy days in AC not only the liver deserves a break!? ...LOL...


Cheers - Hesekiels

I just returned from my second visit to Angeles City. This time I was playing tour guide to a friend who has never experienced P4P in Thailand or the PI. We got there on a Phillipine Airline flight from HKG which despite my initial reservations was rather pleasant and on time. Cost about $200 RT. We arrived in MNL around 11:30pm and the car from Margarita Station ([url]www.theville.com[/url]) was waiting with a cooler full of SMB. The trip from Manila to AC at that time of night was only about 1.5 hours so we were at the hotel at about 1:00AM. We were staying at the Clarkton on Perimeter Road which is about 2 miles away from the main strip but has a nice pool and is quieter (but get the rooms facing the pool and not the main road which gets noisy in the early morning). Decent AC rooms with broadband internet for about $35/night). They also have a good breakfast

So quick shower and off to the action. I had heard that Lollipop had wilder girls and we went there to start. However no one too exciting so we had one drink and moved on to Dollhouse which is a 24 hour joint. We had a good time in Dollhouse and they have a lax camera policy and the girls like to have their pictures taken. We were too tired to hit too many bars so my friend and I decided to take a girl each from the DH. I choose this hot 19 year old (pic). 1200 peso barfine and off we go. Now I discover a new thing. Many of the younger girls in AC do not want to do oral and if you force them they are no good at it anyway. They are however more than willing to give up BBFS at any time. In fact most do not even ask for condom, none of them carry a condom and if they ask and you say you don’t want to use one or don’t have one, they are fine to go ahead. Now I know all the scaremongers will jump up and down here but consider that this has been going on for years and years and yet the PI had a fairly low HIV rate. That plus the very low F2M transmission rate results in marginal risk for HIV. Of course there are other diseases and Herpes is the next one to worry about. However a close inspection of pussy showed no signs so on to the races. Nice tight pussy, French kissing etc. But then she pulled the “I forget my cell phone and I’ll come back routine” I didn’t care though cause I was dog tired and really wanted to sleep anyway so let her go without a fuss. It was still a good fuck for 20 bucks.

Spent the next morning tooling around town and for those of you who have been to AC know that this is the big downside of the city. Hot, dirty and all together third world. Of course if it was like Europe it wouldn’t be swimming with hot young pussy at $20/night! The early afternoon we made our way into the bars again. I wanted to pick up some afternoon fun. Cant remember the which bar but at one place that opened at noon I found a first timer. No, really, no bullshit. Very first day in the bars. She wasn’t all that young (about 26) but she had never worked in the bar. I had a long conversation with Mamasan who was nice enough to give me the run down on all her girls. This one was fresh from the province and was really shy in the bar. I bought her a drink and she got a little cuddly. She wasn’t the hottest but the fact that she was completely new to both the work and to AC made her appealing. Mama-san sort of indicated that she didn’t know much but would follow instructions and implied that I could have more fun because she was still innocent to the ways of the bargirl. So I took her home. She was really shy to start with and kept saying “no” to my efforts at removing her clothes. However after some caressing, kissing etc she finally got naked and I fucked her good and hard to welcome her to the world of whoring. Of course no mention of condoms was made. The sad part was that after I was done she started crying and sobbed on my shoulder for a while as I held her. Strangely enough that was more of a turn on to me knowing that I really was her very first customer. So I fucked her again. But I could see that she was having a lot of mixed emotions about doing what she was doing. I am sure in a few months she will be like the rest of the bargirls but its interesting and somewhat poignant to see the transition happen. I took her to dinner but didn’t have the heart to keep her all night and fuck her more. Plus she spoke little to no English (more signs that she was really new) so I let her go after dinner.

That evening we ended up in Classroom 2 and that’s were I met the find of the trip. I was chilling with my buddy not particularly horny because of the double shots with the first timer earlier. My buddy sights this girl with big tits (Rose)and decides he must talk to her. He calls her over and she brings along her friend Lin. Rose and Lin are cousins. They weren’t dancers there and weren’t dressed like hostesses either. We later found out that they had not started working there yet and were checking out the bar. Anyway we didn’t know that at the time. My buddy is liking big tits and decided to bar fine her. Mamasan takes his money and asks me about Lin. Now I liked Lin but wasn’t particularly horny at that time (still early like 9pm). So I promise I’d come back and see her the next day. So as my buddy, Rose and I walk out of the door, Lin just grabs my hand and follows me out! No barfine, no discussion about money. We end up going to Neros which hands down has the BEST music and best shows on the strip. Lin ends up in my hotel that night and the next three nights until I leave.

The next day we take the girls to the hotel pool and generally have a great time. Lesson: to enjoy the daytime find some girls and take them swimming. They love it and you will have fun too. My buddy decided Rose was marginal and let her go that evening but I kept Ling. We went to Neros again but I was feeling frisky so I was buying some hot girls drinks and getting high mileage lap dances. Lin was a little jealous but controlled it well. However she refused to let me barfine the other girl (Karen) to take her back to the hotel with us. Still, I went back with Lin and had pretty damn good sex..

The following day was the last day and I decided I had to have variety. So I told Lin I had other stuff to do and packed her off between 4 and 8pm. We decided to check the small bars on the perimeter road. This is a completely different scene than Fields. Small bars, not so hot women but the girls were getting completely naked, playing with vibrators, sticking their tongues all over each other and the customers. Although the quality of the girls overall was much lower I did notice this one girl (Rosario) who was looking hot. So I bought her a drink and spent 30 minutes fondling her gorgeous boobs and ass. I wanted to barfine her but she was new and a bit shy and I had already had that. What I wanted was some nasty action that afternoon before more GFE that night with Lin. The solution to that was Grace. She says she was called “Amazing Grace” for good reason. Now Grace had obviously been around the block and was already drunk by 4pm. So I had one good looking shy chick and a not so good looking wild chick. What to choose? So I did what any red blooded guy in AC would.. I took them both!. That was a session to remember. Grace made Rose do all the things that I would have had a hard time convincing her to do on my own. Plus, they loved pictures. So we made our own porno flick and Grace was a good camera girl shooting video and licking my balls while I fucked Rose’s incredibly tight and sweet pussy. I did all the fantasy stuff like alternating between pussy and mouth and pulling out of Roses pussy and cumming in Graces mouth. I could have kept them both all night for the 1000 peso each bar fine (total of $40 for both) but Lin was waiting so I had to let them go after two hours and a sore dick.

8pm and my sweetie is waiting for me where I told her to. We go to dinner and again to Neros. Karen shows up again and is very friendly. Lin tells me later that Karen told her she really liked me and wanted to hook up but Lin told her no. Anyway the afternoon activities had me tired and I didn’t want to piss Lin off the last night so I gave Karen the cold shoulder. My buddy asked if I was going to take Karen because if not he wanted her. I told him to feel free but in the end she didn’t go with him.

Last night in AC was more hot GFE sex with Lin. I kept waking up at night wondering want this 21 year old hot chick was doing there. I mean she was really into touching, caressing and kissing me all night, not to mention the sex. She held on tight all night for 3 nights in a row. In the morning after breakfast I handed her USD 60 in folded up twenties but she didn’t even look at the money.

Said our goodbyes, hopped the Margarita Station taxi to the airport and back to reality.

In summary the bars in AC are great to hang out in. Ladies drinks are 150 peso ($3) and the girls drink very slowly and a couple of drinks can last an hour. During that time you can grope , fondle, flirt, get lap dances etc from some hot young things. The sex from the girls is different than Thailand. The young ones are shy and often don’t like to do a BJ. But on the other hand BBFS is routinely available and you never have to ask about DFK, these girls love to kiss and cuddle.

The best bars we found were Nero’s. Lancelot also had a large number of hot young girls and caters to Japanese. Insomnia had the ugliest girls on the strip, not a single looker at midnight. Other bars all had some lookers and some dogs and a bunch of average ones. The Perimeter bars were like the Wild west.

In short AC has something for everyone and even the Thailand pros should check it out at least once to compare.

[b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread.[/blue]

Hey OL,
That was a good report. You really gave some color to what it would be like to monger in AC. I think I'm definately going to have to check out your recommendations.

Thanks for sharing-
JRide

Excellent report by Only Looking. Thanks.

I recently (late May) made my first trip to Angeles City and had a nice time. I was there only 2-3 days and really only hit 2-3 bars. One girl I found at Treasure Island was a "keeper" so I stayed with her most of the time.

I know I'm an idiot but for the life of me I cannot remember what the barfine was. I do know that she said she got half of it.

So, my two part question is this:

What is a "standard" barfine in AC, and

What is a standard "tip" if any, for the girl?

I plan to return and I want to at least be in the right ballpark.

Thanks,

LJ

[QUOTE=Ljohnson]
What is a "standard" barfine in AC, and

What is a standard "tip" if any, for the girl?

[/QUOTE]


Hi Ljohnson:

So, you don't remember the barfine? How come? :)

Well, depending on the place the usual barfine is 1.000 to 1.200 pesos. If I am not mistaken prices in Dollhouse might be a little higher (e.g. for the solo dancers)!?

About tipping we had recently a hot discussion here. Some mates stick to the strict 'no tip at all policy', whereas others give some extra money according to the quality of service. However, if I had a great night with a cuty I tip her in the morning with about 300 pesos or so.


Cheers - Hesekiels

Hello guys,

because I have a gf in AC I sometimes go to MP. Last time I visited roman bath, before I also tried the 24 hours massage along fields (upper fields I guess) then one behind sun garden (i f thats the hotel name) one is before blue nile, or if u walk away from Blue nile towards mc arthur highway.

Are there any more places to explore in AC regarding MP?? I also have to say that gurls are not really hot looking in those places, Im a bit chosy, cause if I pay for that I also like to have quality. So any recomandation? You can also Pm me.

I will fly there beginning of august (low season), I first stay over night in Manila to explore LA cafe and the other spots in that area. Also doing the forum search for MP in that area. Any recomdts are welcome. Im not a newbie in PI, but newbie to MP in Manila. Pm are most welcome.

I will post a report and updates after my experiences here, like I always do.


Happy hunting!!!

Be carefull, read an article on another board about a guy having his wallet stolen in the MP you describe as the one "before blue nile."


[QUOTE=Blink157]Hello guys,

because I have a gf in AC I sometimes go to MP. Last time I visited roman bath, before I also tried the 24 hours massage along fields (upper fields I guess) then one behind sun garden (i f thats the hotel name) one is before blue nile, or if u walk away from Blue nile towards mc arthur highway.

Are there any more places to explore in AC regarding MP?? I also have to say that gurls are not really hot looking in those places, Im a bit chosy, cause if I pay for that I also like to have quality. So any recomandation? You can also Pm me.

I will fly there beginning of august (low season), I first stay over night in Manila to explore LA cafe and the other spots in that area. Also doing the forum search for MP in that area. Any recomdts are welcome. Im not a newbie in PI, but newbie to MP in Manila. Pm are most welcome.

I will post a report and updates after my experiences here, like I always do.


Happy hunting!!![/QUOTE]

Thanks for the info, gud thing I never carry a wallet (lol) and I only carry the amount of cash I want to spent at that night and not more....helps a lot, specially if you had some more beer than you should have.

There are two MP, the one I visted some time ago is on the same side like Blue Nile. The other one oposite I never visited, gurls there arent my taste.

I passed on the first one last time, cause my favoured gurl wasnt there any more. I visited that place frequently some time ago, never got anything stolen. I even screw a gurl there, even they say its only hj they offer.

So if anybody comes with a new MP, please Pm me or post here. Wish I could find a place with gurls like in those pinoy bars , but I guess not in AC.

Happy hunting!!

"They are however more than willing to give up BBFS at any time. In fact most do not even ask for condom, none of them carry a condom and if they ask and you say you don’t want to use one or don’t have one, they are fine to go ahead. Now I know all the scaremongers will jump up and down here but consider that this has been going on for years and years and yet the PI had a fairly low HIV rate. That plus the very low F2M transmission rate results in marginal risk for HIV. Of course there are other diseases and Herpes is the next one to worry about. However a close inspection of pussy showed no signs so on to the races. "

Dude! Can you see by examination if the girl has chlamydia, gonorrhea, or NGU? Let me assure you that these diseases are rampant in AC and if you did more than two girls bare back you have one of them. Run to a clinic and get checked. You wind up spreading that stuff around too when you go from vaginal to oral sex. Yes, the girls carry in their throats too.

These are not trivial diseases. Many people are asymptomatic so won't seek treatment. Go get checked! You probably have one or more of them now and would do everyone else, including the girls, a favor by not spreading it. Barebacking pussy in AC should not be encouraged.

[QUOTE=PeakView]"They are however more than willing to give up BBFS at any time. In fact most do not even ask for condom, none of them carry a condom and if they ask and you say you don’t want to use one or don’t have one, they are fine to go ahead. Now I know all the scaremongers will jump up and down here but consider that this has been going on for years and years and yet the PI had a fairly low HIV rate. That plus the very low F2M transmission rate results in marginal risk for HIV. Of course there are other diseases and Herpes is the next one to worry about. However a close inspection of pussy showed no signs so on to the races. "

Dude! Can you see by examination if the girl has chlamydia, gonorrhea, or NGU? Let me assure you that these diseases are rampant in AC and if you did more than two girls bare back you have one of them. Run to a clinic and get checked. You wind up spreading that stuff around too when you go from vaginal to oral sex. Yes, the girls carry in their throats too.

These are not trivial diseases. Many people are asymptomatic so won't seek treatment. Go get checked! You probably have one or more of them now and would do everyone else, including the girls, a favor by not spreading it. Barebacking pussy in AC should not be encouraged.[/QUOTE]

This is excellent advice. In my past, did bareback with three girls who were part of the General population. In all three occasions, I picked up Chlamydia. The girls had no idea they had it. This nasty disease usually shows no symptoms in the women - it sure as hell told me I had caught it though! I am always extremely careful to wear protection - I have learnt my lesson.

Yes there out there but rampant I doubt very much. I did catch a dose of GONORRHEA once in my mongering days in AC but this was 1 time in 1000s of bareback encounters over a 25 yr span in the Phils, Korea, USA and Thailand. I still to this day bareback almost everytime streetwalkers in the US(Many citys). Girls from soi 7 Beerbar in Thailand or Beach road in Pattaya, Nana or soi cowboy bargirls girls,and in the AC bars and ect ect. And still up to today I have only caught that one dose. I have been checking STDs at the free clinic every 3-6 months now for 25 yrs . I am clean. Now I don't think HIV or any of the other STDs are a myth by any means. However I don't feel there Rampant and that condom makers have over stated the STD problem with the help of the drug companys and the medical industry to put out scare propaganda so people will use there product.

Tipping ,

Ok, this is a controversial topic and I know that it gets a lot of discussion here on the board but have developed a system so that at least I have a guide for myself to tip by.

Short Time:

Usually these will rate under 500p since they don’t stay around for more than one round, and to earn the 500 they usually have to do something outstanding ( say 2 girls ACTIVE sex).

Problems and no sex: 0p and NO Trike fare

Average/Good/Great sex (1) and early leave 0-300p NO trike fare (they had agreed to all night, so they would default to a short time)

Average/good sex all night ( 3 or more times) 300-400p possible trike fare depending on if she was just inexperienced or lazy

Great sex (solo) all night 500p and trike fare/breakfast (this is the expected performance level so this would be considered the baseline for the other tips
This includes several rounds of boom boom, full service, and not shy. But nothing special requested.

Great sex (double/triple girls all night) 1000p this include 2 or more girls that do everything at the same time (not the bathroom hiders). This is more about teamwork and I encourage these types of actions with a larger tip

Specials 1000p-2000 special requests that are out of the normal scope of sex (Movies, costumes ect)

This then gives the girls an idea of the level of performance that they are required to perform with me.

For example when I take out 2 girls and one is average and gets a 300P tip, but her friend that was with us gets 500p they figure out pretty quick that I am about the serve and there are no free rides.

Lastly all service is discussed before hand such as:

“when we go to my room you are staying all night, diba”

“And we are going to boom boom like rabbits all night, diba”

“ I only like good, crazy, bad girls are you like that or good girl?”
( if they say good girl, leave her)

Just my basic guide that I wanted to share

Good hunting

Similar as Streetlooker , I have mongered in A.C. many years and caught just one time a desease (clamydia). I married in 2001 and since this day I use condoms when I'm in AC or Subic. It is one story to get a STD , but it's another story to transfer it to somebody (wife or girl friend).

Well , sometimes it happens in one of those wild nights that I 'forget' the condom , especially when a lot of beers were flowing BBFS is much better. Well , it happened just 3 times of my last 8 AC visits , but this shouldn't be an excuse. To make a long story short , before I leave the country I buy a pack of Citromax and take the full dose (4 x 100g) . I was told this kills everything what is growing on STD inside you.

"take the full dose (4 x 100g)" - over what period of time?

[QUOTE=Bamboo Pete]Similar as Streetlooker , I have mongered in A.C. many years and caught just one time a desease (clamydia). I married in 2001 and since this day I use condoms when I'm in AC or Subic. It is one story to get a STD , but it's another story to transfer it to somebody (wife or girl friend).

Well , sometimes it happens in one of those wild nights that I 'forget' the condom , especially when a lot of beers were flowing BBFS is much better. Well , it happened just 3 times of my last 8 AC visits , but this shouldn't be an excuse. To make a long story short , before I leave the country I buy a pack of Citromax and take the full dose (4 x 100g) . I was told this kills everything what is growing on STD inside you.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Billpsu]"take the full dose (4 x 100g)" - over what period of time?[/QUOTE]

That would be 2 grams (2000mg) single dose of Zithromax (Azithromycin). Kills chlamydia and gonorrhea. Tablets come in 250mg, 500mg and 1000mg sold over the counter in some pharmacies in the Philippines. Most other places you need a prescription. If your gonna play, you have to know how to fix Jimmy up when he gets hurt.

Yella Man

Thank you kindly.

[QUOTE=Yella Man]That would be 2 grams (2000mg) single dose of Zithromax (Azithromycin). Kills chlamydia and gonorrhea. Tablets come in 250mg, 500mg and 1000mg sold over the counter in some pharmacies in the Philippines. Most other places you need a prescription. If your gonna play, you have to know how to fix Jimmy up when he gets hurt.

Yella Man[/QUOTE]

Yahoooo,

I am finally reaching Angeles on 9th Aug and will be there till 15th Aug.

Can anybody tell me if there are any Sob or other parties during that period?

Hey brothers,

Been a lurker all this while, never mongered much all this while, save the occasional trips abroad (which happens quite infrequently)

Will get my first chance on an overseas trip in a long time, and will be heading to the Philippines for the first time, and will be heading out to AC on this Friday. Gathered as much info as I can absorb from the thread... hopefully won't be getting involved in too much school fees this time, but doubt it, since I'm quite a newbie.)

Anyway, was wondering if any of the big brothers are in town? Would like to buy u guys a beer for all the informative postings you've done here.

Give me a holler.

Theed

I will be in Angeles for 2 nights, starting Monday. Anybody who knows the clubs etc. care to show me around? I will pick up the drinks for us and some barfines too.

Thanks,

Tom

[QUOTE=gags]Yahoooo,

I am finally reaching Angeles on 9th Aug and will be there till 15th Aug.

Can anybody tell me if there are any Sob or other parties during that period?[/QUOTE]I just returned from the Phil and attended an SOB at Barhop bar while I was there. Seems that they have standardized the SOBs to every Thursday. Just ask anyone that works at any bar and they can tell you where it will be held. Have fun!!

Hi!

I am flying in to Clark on Aug 10 and looking forward to meeting some guys from the board to get a heads up about Angeles City and the Phils in general. I've lived in Bangkok for the past 3 years so I'm happy to share info about that scene if anyone is interested.

I have RTFF, but there is not much info about getting from Clark Field to AC. What are the cheap options? Take a trike or jeepney to AC? What is a ball park price?

All the best,

Billy Baht

[QUOTE=Billy Baht]I have RTFF, but there is not much info about getting from Clark Field to AC. What are the cheap options? Take a trike or jeepney to AC? What is a ball park price?[/QUOTE]

Trikes aren't available there. Leave the airport and turn right. 300m you'll reach the main road and jump into a jeepney to maingate for 10 peso. It's a 5-10minutes walk. More convenient in case of rain, taxi for 200ps.

I'll be back in AC 18th onwards, can't wait!

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Ekspat]Trikes aren't available there. Leave the airport and turn right. 300m you'll reach the main road and jump into a jeepney to maingate for 10 peso. It's a 5-10minutes walk. More convenient in case of rain, taxi for 200ps.

I'll be back in AC 18th onwards, can't wait!Cheers![/QUOTE]Thanks Ekspat!

BB

Almost any hotel has a pickup service from Clark for 300 pisos. Overpriced, but still less than US $6 and I prefer it to starting my trip with a somewhat lengthy walk, followed by a jeepney ride, in the sun while carrying luggage.

[QUOTE=Hippie] I prefer it to starting my trip with a somewhat lengthy walk, followed by a jeepney ride, in the sun while carrying luggage.[/QUOTE]
Sure, Hippie, but BB asked for a cheap way to get to Fields, so the jeepney is by far the cheapest way. And sun isn't that much nowadays, we're in the middle of rainy season, so "walking in the rain" is more likely.
Cheers!

[QUOTE=Hippie]Almost any hotel has a pickup service from Clark for 300 pisos. Overpriced, but still less than US $6 and I prefer it to starting my trip with a somewhat lengthy walk, followed by a jeepney ride, in the sun while carrying luggage.[/QUOTE]

Taxis from Clark are generally fixed at 200 Peso.

Ekspat, I guess it depends on how he defines cheap. I was just giving another alternative in case that is in his budget and he is as lazy as me. Good point about the rain.

Fastpiston, I have been quoted 300 by every hotel or service I have ever checked with - but I admit that was only 4 or 5. Can you list some that you know of that are 200 and actually pick you up at the terminal, not out by the road? Or are you saying there are regular taxis available at the terminal? I have never seen them, but I am usually stuck flying through MNL and have only been to Clark 3 times, and I'm not exactly the most observant guy around

[QUOTE=Small Man]I just returned from the Phil and attended an SOB at Barhop bar while I was there. Seems that they have standardized the SOBs to every Thursday. Just ask anyone that works at any bar and they can tell you where it will be held. Have fun!![/QUOTE]How are the SOB parties going? I was at the Perimeter Party(T Times) that got busted in May. Has this affected the SOB parties at all?

[QUOTE=Hippie]
Fastpiston, I have been quoted 300 by every hotel or service I have ever checked with[/QUOTE]

As far as I know it's 300ps from your hotel to DMIA, if the hotel arranges it.
From DMIA to Fields it's 200ps. The taxis are on left side, leave the airport, pass the departure-entrance and the taxis are left side there.

Cheers!

First I'll put in my info about transport from Clark. I always fly Seair from Manila and they provide a free shuttle to your hotel. As for the pricing of the taxi and hotel car, they are pretty much accurate so please don't pay anymore than that.

SOB for August is - 3rd Lollipop, 10th Classroom 2, 17th Treasure Island, 24th Angelwitch. I don't know where the aftermath is but I'm sure they will annouce it. If you have never been you definitely should go.

Doghouse -

NOTE DATES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE

1 August Blue Nile executive
8 Rhapsody
15 Nero’s
22 Blue Nile
29 La bamba
5 September Misty’s
12 Stampede
19 Cambodia
26 Alaska
3 October Blue Nile executive
10 Rhapsody
17 Nero’s
24 Blue Nile
31 La bamba
7 November Misty’s
14 Stampede
21 Cambodia
28 Alaska
5 December Blue Nile executive
12 Rhapsody
19 Blue Nile xmas party
26 Nero’s
2 January La bamba new years
9 Misty’s
16 Stampede
23 Cambodia
30 Alaska

A new thing started by Bee from a local travel agency is a Monday afternoon Perimeter barhop, meet at the big table in Kokomos around 2 pm. August 7th is the first and they hope to do it weekly if successful.

Also same people are hosting a weekly pool party at Kokomos every Sunday noon to 4pm, P700 all you can eat and drink. I don't think there will be a contest, just lots of naked girls around the pool.

This weekend is another great party, the CIA, Christmas in August at Roadhouse. will be taking place in Roadhouse from 6pm onwards. This night is special as all proceeds from the night go directly to the Bahay Bata Center. And I mean everything!

Well I get on the plane to Manila in a few hours, I hope I can see some of you guys there.

[QUOTE=Hippie]Ekspat, I guess it depends on how he defines cheap. I was just giving another alternative in case that is in his budget and he is as lazy as me. Good point about the rain.

Fastpiston, I have been quoted 300 by every hotel or service I have ever checked with - but I admit that was only 4 or 5. Can you list some that you know of that are 200 and actually pick you up at the terminal, not out by the road? Or are you saying there are regular taxis available at the terminal? I have never seen them, but I am usually stuck flying through MNL and have only been to Clark 3 times, and I'm not exactly the most observant guy around[/QUOTE]

Ekspat is correct on where to find taxis at Clark airport. They have a general fixed price of 200 Peso. For going to Clark, there is a taxi rank near Main Gate, near where the jeepneys go to Clark. The walkway from SM mall goes direct into the area. They have same fixed price. Clearly someone, somewhere has tried to stabilize the prices and stop the cheating. From hotels, I guess that depends on where you are staying. If booked from hotel reception they can charge more as they may want to take a slice of the cake for themselves. I have heard people quoted 300-400 Peso for that. Maybe best to go to the taxi rank at Main Gate and make an arrangement for hotel pickup.
For those interested in direct Clark-Manila transport, there is a regular bus Clark / Ortigas, timing arranged around flight times. I recall the bus company is Transphilco. Buses look quite smart.

Man in Japan, thanks for the excellent info. Too bad Ill miss the Monday barhop, but Ill check out the pool party. If it is anywhere close to the previous ones with the contests, it will be a blast.

Fastpiston: OK, I knew about those taxis, I guess I'm just lazy. I prefer to have a car service pick me up right at the terminal even though it costs an extra 100p.

Hi guys,

I am a relative newbie. Been to angeles once and loved every bit of it. Yup I also asked Hotel (Amsterdam) tp pick me up. Not worth the hassle for me.

OK now my question. Whats SOB and Doghouse. I dint find anythign atleast in this thread about them.

Care to enlighten pls.

Cheers.

Hello Gentlemen

Having been to Pattaya and Bangkok 4 times, I think I'm ready to try AC. So I need a little help from the AC fans. I have read a lot on this board and think I know most of the pros and cons of AC. But I hope some of you can clear some things up for me.

1. AC is cheaper than Pattaya. True or false?
2. AC girls have more curves than Thai girls. True or false?
3. AC girls are more willing to try anal. True or false?
4. AC girls are more willing to participate in 3-somes. True or false?
5. You can buy a ticket in Bangkok and travel to Philippines easily and get a visa on arrival (I'm American). True or false?
5. Most important question...just exactly how safe is AC? The States deparment has a travel warning for the Philippines. I know it is probably safe but I just want to make sure. I always feel safe in BKK or Pattaya but I'm always alert. And I don't drink.

Thank you guys in advance for your info.

Egg

I was to ANG 4 times, and last week to PTY, then.

1. AC is cheaper than Pattaya. True, a little cheaper for somethings. Bargirls too. Freelance cheap the same in PTY too.

2. AC girls have more curves than Thai girls. True and false. It depends! However in great numbers. True in my opinion.

3. AC girls are more willing to try anal. True or false? I dont know. Not sure, but more false in my opinion.

4. AC girls are more willing to participate in 3-somes. True or false? The same. Not so difficult to find a good 3-some in ANG.

5. You can buy a ticket in Bangkok and travel to Philippines easily and get a visa on arrival (I'm American). True or false? True for European people. I suppose the same for American.

5. Most important question...just exactly how safe is AC? The States deparment has a travel warning for the Philippines. I know it is probably safe but I just want to make sure. I always feel safe in BKK or Pattaya but I'm always alert. And I don't drink. ANG is very safe if you remain in tourist zone. And get out girls from bar. Dont try freelances, because it could be problems. However safe 24 hours a day.

Having been to Pattaya and Bangkok 4 times, I think I'm ready to try AC. So I need a little help from the AC fans. I have read a lot on this board and think I know most of the pros and cons of AC. But I hope some of you can clear some things up for me.

1. AC is cheaper than Pattaya. True or false?
2. AC girls have more curves than Thai girls. True or false?
3. AC girls are more willing to try anal. True or false?
4. AC girls are more willing to participate in 3-somes. True or false?
5. You can buy a ticket in Bangkok and travel to Philippines easily and get a visa on arrival (I'm American). True or false?
5. Most important question...just exactly how safe is AC? The States deparment has a travel warning for the Philippines. I know it is probably safe but I just want to make sure. I always feel safe in BKK or Pattaya but I'm always alert. And I don't drink.

Thank you guys in advance for your info.

Egg

To answer your questions:

AC is not cheaper then pattaya but not much more expensive, and definetly worth a try.

The girls have more curve then the thay one's.

Based on my own experience they are more willing to try anal then the thai's, in my case one out of 4 did not object.

Again based on my experience they are willing to do 3-some but once in the room they do not necessary do things to eachothers

You can buy a ticket in pattaya or Bangkok and get a visa in thailand for a small fee and to answer your last question AC is very safe if you do nothing stupid like offending the girls or the people and generaly obbey the law as you would in america, if you do act like you would in america nothing will happen.

Hope this help.

Eggsalad,

I have spent a fair amount of time in both countries over the last few years. so here's my shot at answering your questions. I'll try to indicate whether I think this is more a fact or an opinion, but in reality most of these are opinions.

1. True - fact
2. True - fact
3. About equal - opinion
4. False - opinion
5. True, and you don't even get a true visa on arrival. They just stamp your passport just like Thailand. (I assume you are coming for only a short trip.) - fact
6. Very safe unless you do something really stupid like going with an underage girl or going somewhere away from Fields and Perimeter with someone you don't know. - opinion

Vicky888 - SOB and Doghouse are parties (or groups who put on parties) that are held in clubs on a regular basis. You pay an entrance fee and then get a meal, "free" drinks, and a show by girls from several participating bars. the shows can sometimes get wild I am told, but they have been nothing special when I went. I find them enjoyable, but not something to plan a trip around or anything.

[QUOTE=Fastpiston]Ekspat is correct on where to find taxis at Clark airport. They have a general fixed price of 200 Peso. For going to Clark, there is a taxi rank near Main Gate, near where the jeepneys go to Clark. The walkway from SM mall goes direct into the area. They have same fixed price. Clearly someone, somewhere has tried to stabilize the prices and stop the cheating. From hotels, I guess that depends on where you are staying. If booked from hotel reception they can charge more as they may want to take a slice of the cake for themselves. I have heard people quoted 300-400 Peso for that. Maybe best to go to the taxi rank at Main Gate and make an arrangement for hotel pickup.
For those interested in direct Clark-Manila transport, there is a regular bus Clark / Ortigas, timing arranged around flight times. I recall the bus company is Transphilco. Buses look quite smart.[/QUOTE]

150 P should be enough for the cab fare. Jeepney fare is 8.50. Or you can hire a special for 150 w/o problems. The busline to Manila sounds like Philtranco (?).

Thanks guys for the information on AC. I'm pretty sure I'll give it a try when I visit Thailand in October. But I'm wondering if I might have more fun in Cebu since it is a resort town with beaches. Any thoughts?

Egg

I consider myself an honest Pattaya expert as I grew up here, arrived in my early 20's ( young and handsome and poor ) and I'm now in my 30's ( overweight ugly but rich ).

1. AC is cheaper than Pattaya. True or false?

yes if u compare like with like, eg Soi 6 prices to Santos.

Pricing of inhouse quickie :-

Soi 6 bf 200 baht + min 500 ( sex fee ) + optional tip 200-500 = 900 thb

900.00 THB Thailand Baht = 1,230.68 PHP ( inc min tip )

Santos bf inc sex fee ( 600 pesos ) + optional tip 200-500 = 800 php
( inc min tip )

585.041 THB Thailand Baht = 800.00 PHP ( inc min tip )

Pricing of gogo girl in your room :-

Walking St GG bf 500-1000 (showgirls b4 midnight ) bht + sexfee ST 1500 bht
( price quoted to locals can be negotiated down to 1k, newbies often quoted 3k )

Total between 1500-2500 bht

1,500.00 THB Thailand Baht = 2,051.14 PHP Philippines Pesos
2,500.00 THB Thailand Baht = 3,418.57 PHP Philippines Pesos

Fields St gogo girl in your room :-

BF 1200 php + tip 200-500 = 1400-1700 php

1,400.00 PHP Philippines Pesos = 1,023.82 THB Thailand Baht
1,700.00 PHP Philippines Pesos = 1,243.21 THB Thailand Baht

So as a general rule price of a shag inc a fair tip is 30% lower in AC in all types of sex venues ( and more chance of a gogo girl staying overnight in AC than Pattaya. )

2. AC girls have more curves than Thai girls. True or false?

True, very few thai girls have big tits.

3. AC girls are more willing to try anal. True or false?

IMHO false.

4. AC girls are more willing to participate in 3-somes. True or false?

Shy non lesbian action 3 somes yes, proper lesbian 3 somes easier to find in Pattaya.

[QUOTE=Eggsalad]Hello Gentlemen

1. AC is cheaper than Pattaya. True or false?
5. You can buy a ticket in Bangkok and travel to Philippines easily and get a visa on arrival (I'm American). True or false?
[/QUOTE]

1. Yes, 30-40%.
My experience with attractive girls LT, stay til morning or longer next day:
AC (Phil.) 1200-1500 Peso (25-30 USD),
Manila (Phil.) 1500-3000 Peso (30-60 USD),
Pattaya (Thail.) 1300-3000 Baht (35-80 USD).
Bangkok (Thail.) 2500-3500 Baht (60-90 USD).
Phnom Penh (Combodia) 20-25 USD.

5. You can buy tickets T/R for 10000-13000 Bath (270 -350 USD), with Thai Airways or Philiph Airlines. Look for special offers in Bangkok Post.
You may also try "holidays packages" with Philip Airlines, about 325 USD inclusive 2 nights hotel. [url]http://www.philippineairlines.com/files/exBKKSWAMNLrev12Jul06.pdf[/url]

Have fun,
GF

Day 1-4

I start my adventure now as I took an express train bound to Narita Airport. I have my NW flight to Manila departing at 7, arriving at 10, 40. I arranged for a pick up service, I am curios if it will work. I hope will be a pleasant trip.

Once in Narita airport I found myself been upgraded to business class on the "mystical" upper deck. That’s the way to fly babe! A great start for my trip, don you think?

Arrived in Manila at 10, 40 as scheduled. The things started to get messy as I waited for more than one our at the immigration line (though I was among to first to get off the plane). The surprises were only beginning. Once in the arrival hall nobody was expecting me (arranged pick up service). Even more, no peso, no money changers, no functional ATMs. Went back and forward around the arrival hall for about one hour, then move out and find a money changer at the nearby Manila Airport hotel. Called my drivers phone. Of course he was around. Finally he appeared and everything got back on track. Well, apparently. There was heavy rain and Manilas drainage system has been the last time repaired during the Spanish rule. Huge lakes all over, dilapidated buildings, rain, rain. Finally got on the highway and moved straight to Angeles. Arrived at Hana hotel (perimeter road) around 2, 30 AM, got a shower on off to action! Despite the late hours the major clubs were in full action. When to Blue Nile executive, and barfined a waitress. She looked 23 (probably 25), very active and willing to please and a very good chatter. Brought her to my hotel. Medium service, medium body (deceiving lights) but it was OK for the beginning. Next morning we had breakfast, chatting etc. Sent her off with 120 peso.

Nxt two days I practically done a nonstop bar tour. Lots of talent around. Practically in every bar you can find some 8s and maybe one 9. In rest plenity of 5, 6 and 7s.

Second night took a girl new to the bar scene (2 days in AC). I like these shy girls. She was sweet and nice, medium service, nice chatter.

Third night hit a very nice 18 yo, the best tits I ever seen in Asia (playboy type really). She was very energetic and playful as well as quite smart. It was a delight to stay with her (got her in a new bar called Typhon, former bananitas).

In Blue Nile I also seen a new girl, just arrived 18-19, incredibly sweet and shy (cherry). I bought her a lady drink gust to feel hear close to me. Nice, nice, but of course she does not barfine. Ok. Ok not, one night latter I say a bloody ugly Korean leaving with her (I think was persuaded by the mamasan). Well, I felt rather bad. That scared rabbit look. Sometimes its difficult to not get emotionally involved. .

So Angeles has everything for everyone, queen beauties, sweet, average ones, bad looking ones (of course.).

Not all are doing full service (BJ) except those from the perimeter bars where it seems to be automatically included in the menu.

One world about the general atmosphere here in AC. Its rainy season, so it rains almost continuously. The rain, combined with the neon lights, traffic, girls, strange guys around gives a kind of interestingly apocalyptic atmosphere. Something like in a Vietnam movie or so. Its interesting and difficult to fined such a thing somewhere else.

Now its my forth night in AC and I am preparing to hit the bars soon. Chek the talent. Not sure what I would be my choice. Something sweet, something bitchy? Sweet and bitchy would be the best combination. If you know a place just tell me guys.

For the next days I am also targeting a two girls session. Let’s see. .

Now I am at kokomos riting this report (wireless internet here, nice surprise). And it rains, and the neon light are starting to shine.

To be continued

Day 5

Last night I hit the gold in "La Pasha": my dream Asian (Chinese/Japanese) looking girl, long straight silky hair, soft body and voice. Fantastic in bed, totally girl friend attitude. After the play we chatted and did photo sessions (don’t ask for photos). She can be in any photo magazine.

She was also doing a nice sensual massage. She is also having a sister in the same club. Mmmmm, maybe. You know my thought. .

Most of the girls here are 100% non commercial – kind of unique in the world.

Left her with 500 tip (for ice cream? ). Maybe I gonna take her and her sister next week (my 1 night/1 girl rule has some exceptions.).

What can I say, I understand the guys who come and marry here. If you hit the right target I think its 100% worth. Many of the girls are working just since a couple of weeks or even days. Some are incredibly shy (big turn on.).

Met a cheery in Blue Nile. With hear look she would melt the heart of a monster. Pay her a couple of lady drinks. Shy innocently show me her sister (another one) dancing on the stage. If I canot take the chery I will take her sister. Yeah, this evening maybe. ! This evening it’s the great opening of the "Heart Breaker" Club, they announce "Girls, Girls, Girls" lets see. .

Day 6-7

Been to the Heartbreaker grand opening! Nice Club, luxurious, very huge on three floors (maybe the biggest in Asia), fantastic clean toilets. Bad points: very strong air conditioning system, freezing, and I cot a cold? (For the moment the girls selection is rather poor but I guess that in 1-2 months time the queen beauties will start flowing in. I could not bar fine anyone there

There was a kind of lottery. Got about 15 tickets but nothing. There might have been a bit of a set up because the biggest prizes ended up "by chance" at the table where Mike, one of the managers was sitting. Just my impression!

Anyway, by 1 am decided to break my 1 night/1 girl rule and took again my girl from La Pasha. Some readers asked my in private about the name of the girl. Well I will not confirm or tell it. Guys. Lets just live our fantasy. There are girls we do not give a damn on them but there are others we really start to care after one bar fine and we do not want to hear any detail about previous experiences etc so I took her, again very nice experience (no details).

On day 7 I started to experience erection problems, after an average of three shots a day. I was thinking of bar fining a cheery girl from Blue Nile. There is a new girl there, beautiful a shy like in fairly tales. I bought her ladies drinks two times but she cannot bar fine. Hm, don know what to say, I really wanted just to hold her in my arms. Got frustrated and decided for something sleazy. Near the Heart Breaker there is a club with special models and dancers on stage. He models are like in Dollhouse but the price is half of it (1500p). There are also a couple of ex models (long legs etc, like I hear there are in Manila). Well guys, don go for the models unless you wanna have your ego busted. I took one, nice but from the start I observed that we are not really compatible. No talk, no eye to eye etc. I nevertheless decided to take her. She was ok, not much talking but ready for action. But don forget that I was having erection problems and therefore I wanted more romance than sex. After about 30 min of caressing etc, she trying to get me an erection (nice girl after all) I observing that she is looking nervously at the watch. I asked her and she told me that she gotta be back on her bar at 3 Am to take her salary (yeah). What? It never happened to be to have a "runner". Interestingly the lack of time and sudden frustration gave the needed boost to my errection and the Bar fine has been consumed as it meant to be: purely physical. No emotions, no regrets. Very sporty. I left to room with her, dropped her back to her bar and I went straight to my sweet queen from the last two nights. Luckily she was still there, took her I had a god sleep with massage etc. Woke up today around 1pm, have a bit of talk and sent the girl back.

I will try to look for another one with similar features. I don’t wanna get too involved. I also help that my erection will fully recover by tonight.

In Angles I observed that there are many constructions under building. In few years time this place will be huge, classy and possibly expensive. But with much of his charm lost!

I decided to find another hotel. Tried the Swiss Chalet but no rooms available. I wanna have a nicer room at a god price. (1200p range).

I hope it will be a nice and fruitful Saturday night!

Day 7 Saturday - (sorry lost the count of the days here)

Saturday night was meant to be crazy. However, after one week in AC you are not horny any more, and start looking for interesting experiences, ore you become incredibly picky. The girl I took last Monday morning immediately after my arrival, who seemed a beauty back them, yesterday night seemed to be ugly, old, consumed etc. Look here, look there, the time is passing. In Nero Forum there was a kind of a to party with sexy lingerie etc. Played two lady rinks to two different girls. Beautiful but unconvincing. To make a long story short, I could not decided on any girl last night. I was also kind of tired and I thought that there is no reason just to take a girl if I am not horny and there is no any psychological compatibility.

Went to my already "regular" girl. She wasn’t there. Hell, bad feeling (who is having a nice time with her now? ). Well. Actually she was upstairs. And shortly appeared for me (a bit I'll or something).

About the hotel rooms. Blue Nile Executive has a 30% discount during the week (1600p). Went there, the hotel is meant to be luxurious but it’s actually ridiculously kitschy. Nothing wrong with that but. It also macabre (black carpeted etc), as it looks more like a tomb. A pharaonic one but still. (Hei, older guy, what do you think? Would you enjoy some "reflection" there? ).

About the weather: it looks fine now, cloudy but no more rain. Even with rain I found it interesting.

Around 3 AM the bars start closing. I watched the girls on their way home.comparing with other scenes here in AC it seems that there is no freelancing after the bar closing (maybe it’s a too small community, they are afraid of gossips etc). The girls will just ignore you.

Around 4 AM went o a disco across kokomos, catering for locals. Interesting but being tired I went home and slept well. Alone.

Day 8 Sunday

Went in the after-noon to the Perimeter bars for a bit of atmosphere. Paid a couple of lady drinks. My favorite bar there is Nifftis. Intimae and fun atmosphere. It’s interesting and grotesque at the same time to see the "connoisseurs" coming, blowjobing and going. I observed especially a girl there, Chris, who is always busy. She is beautiful, fantastic looking body; I always wonder why she isn’t working in a more upscale bar. The fact is that this girl is having an average of 10 customers/day, which makes about 1000/year. Well. A two legged biological bomb. Needles to say, I never asked for a service there.

Went after to Illusions bar. Very laid back. Slow music. One girl stimulated my attention, played a lady drink but she was already booked (around 4PM). No problem.

Around 7 PM started the Fields Bar tour. Dirty Duck. Nothing interesting, Las Vegas though had a very promising selection. Paid a lady drink to a sweet 19 and promised to keep in touch (I was not decided if to take her or not.). When through another couple of bars, the same atmosphere. Nothing really interesting. Finally I stopped in Mystis across the Blue Nile. A door girl (L by her name) persuaded me to enter. Stayed there for a while and made my decision when I saw L dancing on stage. She is 19, nice slim body and full of temperament. Decided to pay her a drink. While sitting with her my eyes dropped on another girl, very Asian looking, long hair. Mmmm, undecided again. Finally I said "no more compromises" why not take them both and so I did. There seemed to be very happy together. I was a bit reluctant thinking of how I will handle two girls but I thought that at least it would be fun and so it was. As usual, the girls where chatting a lot in tagalong about their previous bar fines. The good part of taking two girls who know each other is that the initial shyness is nonexistent. So went to my place, had a shower together and did all the rest together. It was a very nice surprise that they got along so well, fighting for my instrument etc, like in the movies. It was fun although there was a lack of girl friend experience or any emotions. Both were from Mindanao and I observed that they have a particular accent or dialect in Tagalong which sounded very interesting, softer than the usual language I hear on the street. I gave a chocolate to each of them and they were very happy like two little monkeys. Got al the stories how they came as cherries in Angeles (6-7 month ago) lost it in exchange of 20. 000-40. 000 p. They average of 4-6 bar fines/month etc. Meanwhile I enjoyed looking at their bodies. Especially L looked like a Greek statue. Nice girls overall!

Day 9, Monday, Being "Sucked Dry"

In the evening I went to "Nero Forum". I was passing through there many times on my way to Blue Nile but I never stopped. Once I stayed in that bar for 1-2 beers I realized that in this moment there is the biggest concentration of beautiful girls. Thus, for my next few days this bar became my headquarters. The nice think is that they set up a sexy lingerie show which is o nice all the girls looking like magazine starts (they dress only the beautiful ones of course). I seen that petite girl with long hair and deep, very deep eyes. The fact that she politely refused to accept a lady drink from a customer she apparently didn’t like convinced me that this is the girl for that night. She looked like 19. Called her, gave her a drink and heard that she is in fact. 29. Whaaaat? How it comes? I can hardly understand the Filipina genetics. Reflected for a while if to take the girl or not. Finally of course I took her. She had that very nice body, 19 yo face (on daylight) and dressed and behaved like a lady. Well, the surprise was just to come. Back at the hotel she proved to be the wildest girl I ever been with. She effectively sucked me dry. I never understood that concept until that very moment. In the morning I was effectively powerless and the treatment continued until the next evening (sucked, sucked, sucked.). This girl was mastering the art to perfection. Finally she went straight to work from my room. I gave her 500 (she didn’t even looked at the money.)

Well guys, you wanna now the bad part of being "sucked dry" for 12 hours? For the next 24 hours I was left without any sexual drive.

Day 10 Tuesday, the Cebu girl

Went to the Las Vegas bar. The atmosphere very empty but they had a couple of niceties there including a "models show". Eyed a nice petite girl, very playful with perfect body. She was 19. From Cebu (I enjoy geographical variations too). I was also attracted by a model and thought to take two girls. But remember that my sexual drive was close to 0 and so finally took only one. When wanted to pay they asked me for 1500 p because the girl was just been promoted to the "model"status. I told them to stop the bullshit and they accepted the regular price (I thought that its better to give the difference of money directly to the girl.). The girl was a bit upset that I did not recognized her "model" status but that's it. It was a quiet night. Girl had a super body, talked a little etc Next day went together for breakfast to Kokomos. She told me she has a bit of ulcer. Her 16 yo sister is pregnant (no husband of course) etc. I left her with 500 p.

Day 11 Wednesday –The mystical Egyptian Cat

Since I started taking "models" to my hotel I just realized how depressing my room was. I mean there is no way a beauty will enjoy the Spartan atmosphere of a Hana room. The service is great, rooms clean but dark and very basic. Thus I decided for a little change of atmosphere and moved to Blue Nile Executive, 1600p with "rainy days" promotion. I can tell that I immediately felt a change. More confort. More confidence. For those of you who never been there, the rooms are meant to give you a luxury touch. As I already said they are small and somehow like a pharaonic tomb but when I moved there I enjoyed the fairy tale atmosphere.

The fist night I spent there I met a girl surrealistically beautiful and especially classy. I met her in a bar from the area (name kept confidential). In the room of Blue Nile Executive she looked like that sacred cat from the Egyptian Mythology. No joke guys. Absolutely surreal. Who said that you cannot meet beauty queens in Angeles. Absolutely wrong. They are there. They could step on any fashion or modeling stage. Sometimes they are not available of course (they are usually booked by managers or VIPs or already have wealthy sponsors etc) but I was lucky enough to have an encounter with such a beauty. Besides beauty she was not the usual naïve or somehow routh country girl. She showed education and style. After we made eye contact and called here for a drink she agreed to come with me to continue the "talks". Her body was so soft and so well taken care of. Her had and feet were soft like butter. It was a real touching and viewing pleasure. I penetrated her only once. And I came in a couple of seconds like a school boy. (normally I last for about 15-20 min). But it was normal as this girl was way too special. Next morning I was puzzeled. Around 12, 30 she suddenly left but I could not gave her any tip. Simply I could not. As I was afraid of offending her. I mean how much I could give her 500? 1000? 5000? . This girl was inspiring so much. Respect. I was also hoping that I will sort the things out by the next night. Of course there was not any next night because the special things does not last for long. Since then she was no longer available. Not even for drinks and this applied to anyone. I have observed scores of guys who invited her for drinks and she refused. It seems that she has a wealthy sponsor who was spying on her. So I was just lucky spending a night in a Pharaonic room with a surreal sacred cat.

Day 12 Thursday

In the after noon I went to the perimeter bars, to Nifties for a quick BJ. Had that decently looking girl which did a perfect job with deep throating etc In the night I was focusing on a very shy girl with long hair and very big eyes. She was too shy though. And barely spoke any English. She was 22 but seemed to be clueless about the skills required for her wok. I had a hard time teaching her how to do the BJ. The "lollipop" was the comparing example she understood. Anyway in the course of teaching she destroyed a couple of valuable condoms. I tried to have normal intercourse but there was no pleasure. Then suggested the doggy position. And she seemed to be totally surprised. "why like a dog? . Me no dog! ". Guys I have to confess that the deepness and logic of this argumentation made me collapse. Hey guys have you ever asked yourselves why are you doing doggy if you are not dogs? . I said ok to her and went back to lollipop sessions. She was trying hard and improving by the minute and finally my shot came unmerciful taking her totally by surprise. That spectacle was satisfactory enough for the beast living deep inside me.

Day 13 Friday – Another threesome

On Friday I had to move from Blue Nile Executive and found a room at SwissChallet. Nice rooms and probably the best bathrooms. In the evening went to the Neros Forum but I was undecided for a long time. The usual lingerie show, nice girls, nice music, paid a couple of ladies drinks. There was that idiot from Las Vegas who started to show off by throwing money in the air and enjoying the view of girls fighting to catch a bill. It was meant to be a game of power but to me it seemed sad. I mean the guy was throwing 20 peso bills. What an idiot. In his last night. If he was a tough guy from Las Vegas why not throwing 100p bills or 1000s? Of couse, the more classier girl did not paid any attention to his show.

About my girls, I was undecided and as usual in this situations I took two girls. The 29yo I met a couple of days ago and her long legged and nice assed 21yo friend. It was a nice experience but I cannot compare it with my first threesome. They did not go so well together like the first girls. Anyway it was an interesting experience. The girls enjoied the big bed mirror. After a while the long legged said she cannot sleep and wants to smoke etc and asked to leave. I said ok and released her without any tip. In the morning the other girl gave me another fantastic BJ. I also had to move from the Swis Challet and she accompanied me in search for another room which I finally found at Appartele Royal above the Camelot Club. This rooms are nice and very big (1500p). That was my last night in Angeles so I did not care that much about the room though.

Day 14 Saturday - Déjà vu

I started early evening by giving ladies drinks to some of the girls I have been with. Stayed more in Neros. I was not so keen to do another barfine but decided that 13 girls is an unlucky number and thus I was looking for the 14th one. Around 10 a clock my legs brought me to Lancelot bar which I was trying to avoid since the beginning of my trip. There was a 19 girl who I met during my first rip to Angel. Totally shy, totally cute, totally new to Angeles. Back then I spent three nights with her and she came with me to the airport and we said good bye in tears. Thus, I tried to avoid another tough emotional involvement. Nevertheless my legs lead me to Lancelot on the last night of my present trip. She was there. A bit changed. Less cute. More beautiful. More foxy. She came to me, I hold her in my arms. It is interesting to see how several months in Angeles are changing a girl. Decided to take her with me. She has now tasty expensive cloths. Expensive mobile phone. Stylish make up. I a way I was glad that she adapted to well. Went to Blue Nile to see the show and after that back to my room. Around 3 a clock in the night I had my car to the airport. The girl decided to leave before. She tried to sell me some bullshit with a sudden phone call. Ill younger brother etc. I told her that she does not have to come with any bull shit and she can live whenever she wanted. I was not angry. In a way it was my choice of not spending time with her since the beginning of my trip. She was trying to put that foxy bitchy look but she was still unperfect as she could not totally hide her cuteness. Anyway after we spent a couple of hours in bed she dressed up, kissed me, said that she loved me (maybe) and went to the door. I was putting my had in my poked to give her a tip but she firmly refused (yes. Nice character) and left the room with me screaming her name. In vain.

Immediately after I have to start packing as the car was already waiting outside. I left Angeles at 3, 30 with mixed feelings. The neon lights. Happy guys. Girls all around. "hey handsome". "come in". "you sooo handsome". The lights of Angeles rapidly disappeared in the dark. In one hour I was in Manila, the city which never sleeps. Even at that time in the night there were jeepenies all over, many lights and people coming and going. I was in a state of trance.

Arrived at the Airport. Managed with the mess and messy formalities. Took my seat in the plane and the next things I saw were the Philippines islands from above. Clouds. The Ocean. And all the 14 girls I met during this trip were dancing in front of my sleepy eyes. Don't worry girls, I BE BACK!

Depending on my mood some general conclusions might follow.

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Thanks for the interesting report Quasarus. Your comments on Day 7 are so, so true. Bizarre isn't it?

X Man

[QUOTE=Quasarus]Day 1-4

Day 7 Saturday - (sorry lost the count of the days here)

Saturday night was meant to be crazy. However, after one week in AC you are not horny any more, and start looking for interesting experiences, ore you become incredibly picky. The girl I took last Monday morning immediately after my arrival, who seemed a beauty back them, yesterday night seemed to be ugly, old, consumed etc.

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I like Cebu, but the consensus is that the nearby beaches on Mactan Island leave a lot to be desired. Of course you can find some nice beaches on Cebu Island as well as Bohol (short ferry ride from the Cebu port).

How long were you planning on staying?

X Man

[QUOTE=Eggsalad]Thanks guys for the information on AC. I'm pretty sure I'll give it a try when I visit Thailand in October. But I'm wondering if I might have more fun in Cebu since it is a resort town with beaches. Any thoughts?

Egg[/QUOTE]

I would not call Cebu a resort town. Too smoggy. Few beacheswith any natural sand. Sure some sand is trucked in, but only a few square meters worth.

Boracay is a resort. Cebu is a large dirty city.

X man

I'm thinking about staying for only aobut 4 days. This is a side trip while I'm in Thailand. Thanks everyone for the info.

Egg

I will be staying in the entertainment district. I am looking for any advice you guys have or if anyone wants to hit up one of the bars and show a new kid the ropes that would be cool too.

Post or PM.

Only four days. In that case going to Cebu with beaches in mind probably isn't a good idea. At Phuket or Pattaya you'll have easy access to women and beaches. With your limited time, I'd recommend you stick to Manila / AC. If you really need a beach you could go to Subic Bay or even to Puerto Galera, but that would make for a very busy four days.

You might also do some research on what the weather is like in each city at this time of the year.

Regardless of where you end up, I think you'll have a great time.

X Man

[QUOTE=Eggsalad]X man

I'm thinking about staying for only aobut 4 days. This is a side trip while I'm in Thailand. Thanks everyone for the info.

Egg[/QUOTE]

Wow, nice report, a real deja vu for me.
Once I've been there 2 weeks too, but it's IMHO too much.
5-7 days are good.
Usually I need a day break after a week or so to recharge the battery.

Hmmm, Chris in Nifty's? Or Grace?
Is Chris new since I think I know all of them?
My favority body there is Mylene,
I book her at least once on every trip.

Yeah, sad to see the girls changing in AC.
Once I found a fresh cutie there and we had lots of laughing and 4 exciting rounds per night, 2 months later it was 3 rounds and not more that exciting...... Another 2 months later 2 rounds SOP and no more laughing. And I don't book her anymore, but still buy her ladydrink when I'm in that bar.

Amazing, I'm just be back from a hot weekend in Jakarta, but can't wait to get back to AC end of next week. Hopefully no typhoon while arriving, I hate bumpy flights.
Whaaa, have to work the whole coming weekend, can't concentrate...

Cheers!

Hi Guys,
finally I made it to Ac now, after arriving in typhoon with a quite scary landing I left Manila after one night beeing with my gurl from chatsites.

Very nice and maganda gurl, chinese looks but always ask for money shopping etc, so after one night I pass on her, I could get cheaper gurls in AC and I have gf allready, cant afford to have 2 gurls.

I went to several bars, Blue nile executive,Cambodia, Dirty duck, Pasha and I found that not many tourists here, many asians though, specially in Blue nile, Neros.

My scam gurl also works there again in Blue nile executive, check my report and her foto , she goes by the name Gretchen, gud looking but also a bullshitter. She works as tequila gurl there.

I ve been to 2 massage places Roman and Lady Dyn (something like that) besides sky line internet cafe corner fields, mcarthur.
Last one is straight fucking, you pay 550 f0r the rooom and 1000 for the deed. Massage wasnt that gud like in roman and also place not as gud as in roman, but some gurl look nice and its an alternative if u tired of barhop.


For vitamin V stuff I recomand u ask papa san from cambodia, I wont buy anything from the streets.

More infos laters.

Happy hunting!!

Hmmm, Chris in Nifty's? Or Grace?

Is Chris new since I think I know all of them?

My favority body there is Mylene,

I book her at least once on every trip.

Yeah, sad to see the girls changing in AC.

There arr two main sex bombs in Niffities, one was called Chris by her colleagues. Somtimes they go in pairs. The other one can be Grace.

Whatever, I am already thinking about flying back. After 1 week. But I will try to resist at least until the end of Sept. Othewise it will be pure commuting which would be crazzy.

I am thinking of combining it with HK or Singapore. Just for variation.

Hello Board,

On Aug 9 I departed Bangkok for Clark via KL on (2) cheapie, one way, Air Asia flights. FYI, at the Air Asia (KL) check in they didn't ask for any proof of onward travel. Some posters have commented that AA is somewhat strict about oneway tickets with out proof of onwrd travel. I made it and Philippines Immigation could have cared less, LOL.

By the way BKK to KL is 2 hours, but I waited 7 hours for a 3.5 hour connecting flight from KL to Clark. Next time I'll pony up for a direct BKK to Manilla flight.

There is an ATM at Clark airport, but it was out of service. I exchanged some US$ at the airport for P51/$1 adn walked put to the road and caught a P9.5 jeepny for the main gate.

Hopped off the jeepney and walked to the Magarita Station for lunch. Walked on and got a room at Central Park for P1,500. Outa my budget, but I was tired and needed a bath. Took a nap and hit the town.

Went back to Margarita station for supper. A foxy looking speech impared was flirting with me by holding her cell up to the screen (I don't think they allow freelancers in now) she had some hot nude videos of herself but I just couldn't take her, seemed like taking advantae and I am a little leary of freelancers in Angeles...

Off to the bars and man, wee they well stocked with babes. In one place thee must have been 200 girls! Not all stunners of course but I admit that I like the fuller figures of some of the Filipinos. But I also noticed plenty of slim gals too, LOL.

I finally took a babe (next to Blue Nile) P1,200 bf, average performance she stayed to 11am.

Man, it is 1645 and I'm pawing the round to head out again. I'll probbly spend a few more days here then work my way south.

So far, so good!

BB out

Hi guys,
have been to body bliss spa near fields, near Normas money changer, (side street of mr frostys) I got avery gud aroma massage there, no hanky panky, but atendants nice there, they also offer room service for 500 p.

Question to the expat and senior members here, if any of you guys know if its only straight? or can there be also other things happening when I call them for roomservice.

My attendant name was Kriss.

I visited Sm clark and bought some gift coupons for my gf there for the facial and spa. The gurl look nice there, I was wondering if somebody can ask this gurls out or something more can happen over there? Like happy ending??

Today its raining here, so there is nothing to do then sleep and save ur powers for barhopping.

Life is great.

Happy hunting!!!

?
blink....did you ask her out? I know AC is the kind of place where you have to fight off the wenches, but that's not reason to avoid your responsiiblities to provide some new and interesting info about women - especially regular ladies who are doing there best to be "good".

The regular ladies in AC see this constant passion...PASSION/SEX/.... Yea, it does affect them. They are defensive because they don't want to be *****s, but if you have more than two or three days to spend on a lady, you should be proactive.

And if they don't respond as you wish, ummm...you are in AC!

X Man

[QUOTE=Blink157]For vitamin V stuff I recomand u ask papa san from cambodia, I wont buy anything from the streets.[/QUOTE]The stuff on the street is real deal as far as Cialis is concerned. I didn't try Viagra (don't like its side effects). Make sure it is sealed underneath cap and check expiration date. You can get a 20 @ 50 ml for 500 pesos and 20 @100 mil for 600-700. All this depends on your bargaining skills.

I've used it in the states and Mexico and I know the real deal when I use it.

First time in AC. Have been to Pattaya many times and wanted to contrast and compare. I came to the conclusion that they are apples and oranges and it would be unfair to compare them.

Obviously, I like Thailand as my many trips have indicated.

AC is good for short trips, I think after a week it would get old.

The girls in AC are wonderful! I really enjoyed my time with them. I will say that they tend to look a lot alike compared to the Thais.

My favorite place was Classroom 2 where I gladly bought many lady drinks and felt like Hugh Hefner. At noon I would start out at Dollhouse and then venture over to Doll House. I also liked Topcat, though I think they padded my bill (that would be my fault for not paying each order).

The food was most amazing. Zapatas had the best Mexican I have ever eaten and that includes Cal or Tex-Mex.

I ate a lot at Kokomos.

Hotels: Started out at Clarkton (quite nice) I then moved to Central Park (very nice) BUT, they kicked me out after the first day stating that I only asked for the room for 1 night. That was not true! I told them that I would be there until the day I left and told them where that would be. When I filled out the registration form she said that is enough and pulled it from me, so that the dates were not written on it. They were not very sympathetic when I explained to them that there would be no reason for me to book the room for only one night.

Anyway, I sadly left there and splurged on a room at the Wild Orchid and loved my stay there. The security especially was appreciated.

I am sure I will return, but only for a week at a time. Mind you, I work in Korea, so these short trips are more practical for me.

I am sure I will return, but only for a week at a time. Mind you, I work in Korea, so these short trips are more practical for me.[/QUOTE]I would like to know some cheap flight oportunities from Korea to Phils. Any travel agency cattering to foreigners? (English web site?)

How much an Asian flight to Clark costs?

I met Bea in April and she told me that she did a porno video. I believed her but never thought I'd actually see it. Thank you for the link.

Don't know much about price, but I believe Asiana is the only Korean airline flying into Clark.

[QUOTE=Key Master]I met Bea in April and she told me that she did a porno video. I believed her but never thought I'd actually see it. Thank you for the link.[/QUOTE]

I would be curious to know what how much she got paid. ???

I might be in the Philippines for December or Janary for family reasons. I would like to take a side trip somewhere since I am in that part of the world, although I won't know if this is possible until I get to the Philippines, so I would have 1-2 weeks to book the trip.

I've done this in the past, but always flow out of Manila. Clark would also be relatively convenient and I won't have to sit through the Manila traffic that annoys me so much.

I'm sure I have relatives who are travel agents or who can hook me up with a decent one. Any thoughts on the ease of booking a trip out of Clark on short notice and which destinations/airlines are most viable for my purposes (sight seeing and a little mongering)?

[QUOTE=SX Doctor]I might be in the Philippines for December or Janary for family reasons. I would like to take a side trip somewhere since I am in that part of the world, although I won't know if this is possible until I get to the Philippines, so I would have 1-2 weeks to book the trip.

I've done this in the past, but always flow out of Manila. Clark would also be relatively convenient and I won't have to sit through the Manila traffic that annoys me so much.

I'm sure I have relatives who are travel agents or who can hook me up with a decent one. Any thoughts on the ease of booking a trip out of Clark on short notice and which destinations/airlines are most viable for my purposes (sight seeing and a little mongering)?[/QUOTE]SEA air has a flight to Boracay (Caticlan) on some days. Maybe also to other destinations, definately to Manila Domestic Airport. Search their website for the schedules. There are agents through whom you can book and pay by western union so that the notice won't be too short. If you need, I can search my records for details of the agent I booked with last time. PM me in this case.

[QUOTE=SX Doctor]I might be in the Philippines for December or Janary for family reasons. I would like to take a side trip somewhere since I am in that part of the world, although I won't know if this is possible until I get to the Philippines, so I would have 1-2 weeks to book the trip.

I've done this in the past, but always flow out of Manila. Clark would also be relatively convenient and I won't have to sit through the Manila traffic that annoys me so much.

I'm sure I have relatives who are travel agents or who can hook me up with a decent one. Any thoughts on the ease of booking a trip out of Clark on short notice and which destinations/airlines are most viable for my purposes (sight seeing and a little mongering)?[/QUOTE]Internationally you can connect to the US and Korea via Asiana Airlines,Singapore via Tiger Airlines then to most of Southeast Asia,KL and Kota Kinabalu then on to most of Southeast Asia via Air Asia.CR Airways to Hong Kong.Domestically you can connect Boracay via SeaAir as Tiger mentioned,then from there it connects to Cebu.Asian Spirit connects from Clark to Palawan via Manila and direct to Palawan.Hope this helps

You can also fly daily to Macau from Clark and from there to destinations in China and Taiwan.
You can check the schedules of all the flights on this website.

[url]http://www.clarkairport.com/frame.php[/url]

Beijing Lover

Has anyone been to Club Lancelot lately? I was there about 6 months ago & thought they had one of the best selections of girls of the bars in angeles. I saw 2 girls I really wanted to barfine, but they were already taken at the time. I don’t know their names, but one definitely stands out cause she has very big boobs that look like they’re about to bust out of the little bikini top the dancers wear. The other was a very pretty waitress with a slim body that looked like she’d be a lot of fun (she was hanging all over some lucky guy that ended up barfining her). I’m making another trip in a few weeks and if the girl with the incredible boobs is still there, that’ll definitely be the first bar I go to.

I was already sometimes to Angeles, always with private car or Fly the bus from Manila. But I am curious to know if somebody tried a normal taxi to Angeles, getting it from the departure level of NAIA (not the arrival, but the other floor of international airport, where there are normal taxis arriving with people in departure, for sure cheaper than the other ones).

They can go to Angeles, or they work only in Manila area? How much it need to pay bargaining with the driver? May be they are the quickest and cheapest way to Angeles from the airport.

Thanks for the answer.

The taxis will go all the way to Angeles. Don't go with the first guy who asks; they have a stand, where they have posted prices. The last time I rode one, about a year ago, the fee was PHP 1,600 - but you can talk that down a little bit. The trip takes about an hour and a half at night, two or two and a half hours with traffic. If you arrive at night, it beats getting a hotel in Manila and then taking the bus in the morning.

Just a shout out to anyone, I'm in Seoul, but I'll be in Angeles for most of September. Anyone up for some drinking and carousing? Send me a PM, or post.

[QUOTE=Buds66]I was already sometimes to Angeles, always with private car or Fly the bus from Manila. But I am curious to know if somebody tried a normal taxi to Angeles, getting it from the departure level of NAIA (not the arrival, but the other floor of international airport, where there are normal taxis arriving with people in departure, for sure cheaper than the other ones).

They can go to Angeles, or they work only in Manila area? How much it need to pay bargaining with the driver? May be they are the quickest and cheapest way to Angeles from the airport.

Thanks for the answer.[/QUOTE]

You could also try the following: Take for 60 pesos a taxi from NAIA to Five Star bus terminal in Pasay City. The north-bound bus to Dau/AC that departs every hour costs you about 140 pesos and the tricycle from Dau's Mabalacat Terminal to Balibago another 50 to 70 pesos max. It is by far the cheapest option to travel to AC and it's almost as fast as by taxi.

Have a safe trip - Hesekiels

BUT do NOT go upstairs to departure level. Rather, merely start walking with traffic (towards the right) and ignore ALL touts. Wait until you see an empty taxi (who just dropped off his passenger) then quickly hop in. I used to ALWAYS get it for 1,000P but that was a few years ago so start at 1200 and offer a tip ONLY IF he never tries to renegotiate the fare (I tell them up front that if they so much as ask for 1 extra piso they get ZERO tip). Speaking a little Tagalog and being friendly makes a BIG difference.

Only fools take taxis from NAIA arrival area (worst criminal mob in all of the PI IMHO, followed by the Angeles trike drivers gang-if God would just kill every member of those two groups the PI would be a MUCH more pleasant place for foreign visitors). I refuse to patronize EITHER group (walk or wait for a jeepney or rent a car!) .

I've had good luck hoping into a departure cab after saying I was going to Makati, Ermita... wherever, then negociating with the driver for the trip to AC. That way, no one within ear shot of me getting in the cab knows I'm outbound on a long trip. Nice, if you're traveling with cash or other vakuables.

But these days I like a couple nights in MNL for unwinding before heading north anyway. Good luck.

FD

Will be in AC from Oct 1 to the 11th.

Thank your guys for the answers

To complete my question, this time I will travel with a friend. I always stayed only to Angeles, but he wants to go to a seaside too. What are the best place? My requests are low prices (not Boracay, then), near Angeles or Manila (may be Subic Bay or Puerto Galera), a nice beach for the daytime, and a funny nightlife with some bar Angeles-style or available free-lance LACafè style. Any good ideas (for hotel too)?

Re-Thanks!

Myself and a fellow board member that I have never actually met before this trip have been chatting back and forth for a couple of years about being stationed in the Philippines in the days of yore. The good ole days when anything you caught could be cured with a shot. He in the Navy and I in the Air Force.

He hadn’t been there in 20 years and I hadn’t been there in 10 years. Well, we hatched this plan to do a reminiscing tour of the PI.

We left the states on a on Wed. 8/2. Me from the east cost and he from the west coast and rendezvoused in Singapore on Friday for the 3 hour flight to Manila. BTW, We flew Singapore Air in coach, it is the best airlines I’ve ever flown. I regularly fly business from DC to Rio on United using upgrades and the service and food in coach on Singapore blows United business away.

All flights were on time and we reached Manila as scheduled. Unfortunately my luggage didn’t. I fill out the requisite paperwork and they give me about $50 in pesos to get some clothes and stuff and promise to have my luggage delivered ASAP (showed up 2 days later at 4 AM). We meet our driver at the appointed spot and are on our way to Angeles, 3 hours because of traffic but normally 2 hours.

We booked the Family Deluxe rooms at the Orchid Inn which was a great call as it is within 1-2 blocks of all the main bars and 1 block from “blow row”. When we originally booked the rooms were $50 a night but their rates went up to $59. They honored the booked rate plus a 10% discount for 10 or more days. They have a decent restaurant and the fastest room service in the world. Prices for food were a little high but convenient and could be charged to the room.

We hit all the major mainstream bars that everyone hits. Blue Nile, Neros, Doll House, Camelot and a few others.

BARS:
I’m not going to go into the blow by blow of every day. I'll just give my impressions of the bars we hit (and remember) and the quality of girls at the bar.

Doll House – Had the prettiest girls in proportion to the number of girls in the bar. They have synchronized dancing which is pretty cool and one group of girls danced in platform boots like the band Kiss and that takes a lot of talent. They do have tiered pricing for their girls (see pricing later on in the report). I picked up a hottie in here who gave an incredible BBBJ and great FS. I repeated with this one.

Rhapsody – We had heard so many good things about this place but when we went in at 11PM on a Monday night there was no one in the bar and the girls weren’t even dancing just sitting around and talking to each other. Walked right back out and never went back.

La Pasha - across from Rhapsody was the most fun. We got to drinking with the Mamasan (Jinx) and Papasan (Peter) and had a great time. They bought us a few drinks and gave some recommendations on a few girls in the bar. We actually pulled 3 from there for a party and they hooked us up with another at another bar weren’t shy with other girls. All four were definitely not shy and had no problem moving from guy to guy and girl to girl.

Nero’s – Another fun bar with tons of girls and a friendly staff. They have hot little shooter girls dressed like cops who will do body shots. Tequilla poured into your mouth, lick the salt off of their nipples and get the lime from way back in their mouth. I took one of the shooter girls home without the usual interview process. No BJ at all but the FS was incredible. She also wanted to leave after one session. Remember to do the interview!!! They stick to their word if not it’s all on their own.

Blue Nile – Another synchronized dancing club. A little loud and the normal dancers didn’t smile at all. Very depressing. They do have a neat hydraulic dance floor that they raise the girls up and down on to different levels. Didn’t pull anyone from here.

Camelot - another good bar with a good selection. Mamasan gave us some good tips on who to pick up in here. I didn’t pick up anything but my friend pulled 2 out of here and a repeat.

Heartbreakers – down the street from the Orchid on A new club just opened used to be Private Disco or something like that. 3 stories, dancers on the 2nd story dance on clear platforms so you look right up their crotch. Have a few nice looking dancers and a fun bunch of waitresses. Still getting new dancers daily. Every day we went in there it got better. Pulled a couple from there.


OTHER PERTINENT INFORMATION - GIRLS

BARFINES – This is an all night deal and you actually have to send most of them away or they will stay with you forever if you let them.

PRICING – for the most part it is P$1,200 ($24) barfine for the night. That’s all night multiple sessions.
They do have tiered pricing at the clubs with synchronized dancing such as the Doll House. P$1,200 ($24) barfine for regular girls. P$1,500 ($30) barfine for the synchronized dancers and P$3,000 ($60) barfine for the spotlight dancers.

TIPPING – A lot of guys that travel to Angeles are there on the cheap. It turns out that most guys don’t tip or just give an extra P$50-100 to pay for the trike ride home.

Use your own judgment but I tipped anywhere from P$0 – P$1,200 depending on service. P$0 for a runner and P$1,200 for a girl that did multiple sessions and even gave me a silent 30 minute BBBJTC and swallow while I was on a conference call to the states with the CEO my company at 2:30AM (her unsolicited idea). Boy did I do a lot of muting on that call. All others were P$300-P$500 range depending on what I had in my pocket. Of the P$1,200 barfine these girls only see P$500 of it. If you repeat it is even that much better the next time because they are motivated.

LADY’S DRINKS – If you buy a girl a drink at the bar they work at they get a commission on that drink and subsequently their drinks are 2-3 times the price of yours and can definitely add up after awhile and then waitresses are always pushing you to but LD’s for any girl that sits down with you.

INTERVIEWS – Definitely need to make sure they know what you want. If you ask them and they say yes, they will do it. If they say no during the interview then it is no and there is no coercing them to do otherwise. They treat the interview as a contract, if you don’t ask they won’t do it. So if you want a BBBJ or BBBJTC you need to get that out upfront before you barfine them. The same with anal. Full Service isn’t always a given either, she may be a cherry girl or on Mens. So you have to go through the whole list.

RECOMMENDATIONS – A good source of finding the right girl that will do your particular kink is top ask Mamasan or Papasan. They will steer you to the right one(s) for you but you will still need to go through the interview process as things may have changed in the last few days with them.

GFE – These girls are all about hugging, kissing, sleeping all over you with their hands always on your pecker, etc. You are the boss and you rarely hear no after you take them back.

SEX - They had a term for these girls when I was there in the 80’s LBFM – Little Brown Fucking Machines and they still live up to that. Multiple sessions are no problem. If you want to knock off a piece while they are asleep just lift a leg while spooning them and you’ll feel a hand guide you right in. Hell, I don’t even know if they were awake or if it was just instinct.

BAEREBACK - This is a Catholic country and they don’t normally think of contraception. I’d say that 95% will go bareback if you want. They don’t even carry condoms with them. Watch out, as they have a habit of hopping right on after a couple minutes of a BJ with no warning.

BBBJ – This can be had but definitely need to bring up in interview. BBJTC is a little harder to find and anal is even harder.

THEIR BODIES – It’s funny, my friend and I individually came to the same conclusion. These girls have genetically perfect little bodies all without doing any exercise. You never see any girls in the gyms or jogging like you would in Rio. When you squeeze their tight looking asses or thighs it’s like jelly and not tone at all. Not that there is anything wrong with that just interesting. They all look young. You may see a girl that looks 15 and check her ID and she’s 25 with 3 kids. A lot have kids but you could never tell except for a few stretch marks. Even their boobs snap back.

BUTTERFLY - We also found that if you barfine a girl at one bar you are pretty much their property and can’t get another one to go with you or the one you barfine is attached to your hip giving the evil eye possessive look to all the other girls and trying to suck up some LD’s. So you better look around and get the right one there and hope that all the smokin ones haven’t already been barfined as when you return you will definitely have buyers remorse when you come back the next night and see miss perfect.


RESTAURANTS:

We really didn’t go to too many but here are the ones I remember:

Kokomos – All types of food, Filipino, Italian, Chinese, Australian dishes, burgers, bacon and eggs,etc. . Decent prices. All meals from $3-$10

Margaritaville – Same as Kokomo’s same pricing

Orchid Inn – Same as Kokomo’s and Margaritaville only higher priced

Burboun Street – Right before you get to the Blue Nile. The best food we found with great service and ambiance (live music so soft you don’t even realize it’s live). The prices are a lot higher but definitely worth it. Try any of the steaks, chicken or the pork steak. A good steak will run you about $13. This place usually only has a couple of customers in it at any given time as it seem to be overpriced for the usual Angeles tourist.

TOURISTY STUFF

Not much to do but drink and screw.

We hired a driver and did a tour of Clark AB and Subic (about 1.5 hors away) for a day. Subic definitely has been revitalized with resorts and industry but Clark looks like the projects with a few factories, duty free stores and a couple of resorts.

We went to Casino Filipino on McArthur highway. Decent casino with only blackjack, paigow, baccarat, roulette, 3 poker tables and tons of slots. Fun and fair.

FINAL OBSERVATIONS

First of all the, board member that I met and traveled with was great traveling companion and barhopping buddy. This guy definitely knows how to party and have a good time. I am greatful to have made another good friend on this board and we are planning another trip together in the future, most likely Rio. He's still there, I spent 11 days there and he's stayed on another 10 days.

Angeles City is a safe town, I never once felt threatened or in danger.

I must be looking real old these days because I couldn’t take 10 steps out of the hotel or leaving a bar without getting hawked to buy Viagra or Cialis.

It was a fun trip, but in Angeles there’s nothing to do but drink and screw. San Miguel is a great beer that goes down easy. The girls are fun. The place hasn’t changed at all. Just the faces and the names of the bars the attitude and service. For a true mongering trip this is a great place but if you need the beach or other activities this is not the place.

I would say that you could do this trip on $100 a day, room, food, drinks, girls etc. But for a better time it would probably be in the $150-200 a day budget.

Would I do it again, yes but only with a traveling partner and not more than once every year or two. 30 hours of traveling isn’t very fun.

I would definitely stay at the Orchid again but only in their top rooms. All other rooms looked way too small. They have safes in the rooms, high speed internet access, English speaking TV channels and the fastest room service I’ve ever experienced. I know people keep talking about their price but I don’t want to travel 30 hours and stay in an uncomfortable room and I needed the hard-wired etherenet access for some work and conference calls I couldn’t avoid while on vacation. All the other hotels had only wireless and I needed etherenet as it was necessary for my Vonage system and router.

@ Snooky.

Thanks for the fr, i was planning a quicky to Pattaya (3 weeks of boinkin lbfm's) in october but you awakened some good memories of Angeles. I guess I will change the trip, I loved Angeles before, prolly love it again in 5 weeks!

:-)

Excellent report, Snooky! I hope to follow your example next month.

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[QUOTE=X Man]To check your mobile phone's serial number, key in the following on your phone:

star-hash-zero-six-hash ( * # 0 6 # ) and a fifteen digit code will appear on the screen. This is unique to your handset. [/QUOTE]


This is cool but the 2nd code only came back with an error for me.

I was passing on info I got from somewhere else, I've never tried it myself.

Sorry if it was bad info.

X

Hi,

I'm thinking about making a trip to Angeles over the Christmas and New Year period. I was wondering if this is a quiet time when the girls go home to visit family or a busy money making time.

[QUOTE=Sillybastard]Hi,

I'm thinking about making a trip to Angeles over the Christmas and New Year period. I was wondering if this is a quiet time when the girls go home to visit family or a busy money making time.[/QUOTE]


to silly b

I was there last X mas there were not too many monger and plenty of girl to
go around .

fast eddie 48

I have been here na for 2 weeks and the place is still crazy with girls galore.The only thing is you never seem to get rested up.Mabey thats not a bad thing. I find that neros bar has many high end gals like Blue nile. But the attatudes are not worth the effort.Beware of good look scams they look great but not much in the way of personal service.

B.B...

To all... Howdy.

Forgive the banal question. It's been asked before (I think I've even answered it), but here goes anyway. Is Smart still the best cell phone for Angeles ? It has been in the past, but things change. I want to get a new sim card in MNL before I head up.

Thanks.

FD

[QUOTE=Firedick]To all... Howdy.

Forgive the banal question. It's been asked before (I think I've even answered it), but here goes anyway. Is Smart still the best cell phone for Angeles ? It has been in the past, but things change. I want to get a new sim card in MNL before I head up.

Thanks.

FD[/QUOTE]

Smart seems to be slipping IMO. Strange deductions of loads, ever-changing fee structures and schemes topped up with some messages that you will be charged for recieving. I'm only keeping it because I have a pretty good number plus there are some doable numbers around with constant pasaload needs ;)

Hi,

Thanks Fast Eddie 48, that sounds good enough for me!

I am thinking of staying at the above hotel when I come to AC because it has Wi-Fi. But can anyone tel me if it is a good location for the action.

Will I need a taxi, or can I walk?

Any help appreciated!

Hi newbie here,

Just wonder if you all bros know any escort service and MP in AC, wonder about thier pricing, how thier service look alike, and any contact no. to call, looking forward for that, I will be in AC next year around 2nd week January.

Thanks. Love to share this experience will all bros

Da

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]I was there last X mas there were not too many monger and plenty of girl to go around .[/QUOTE]

Agree, I was there also on last xmas. Slightly less girls than November but still more than enough. Will be there this xmas again.
Cheers!

PS: Currently in rainy season with few customers only you're spoilt by choice. Even 11pm no problem to find hotties who would be sold out immediately in high season. Lovin it..... :D

[QUOTE=Ekspat]Agree, I was there also on last xmas. Slightly less girls than November but still more than enough. Will be there this xmas again.
Cheers!

PS: Currently in rainy season with few customers only you're spoilt by choice. Even 11pm no problem to find hotties who would be sold out immediately in high season. Lovin it..... :D[/QUOTE]



to Ekspat

I always start hunting at 8.00pm early bird get the best girls and back to my
hotel by 9.30 pm ,At angeles city girl always out number the guys 5 to 1 my
favorite hunting ground is lancelot , blue nile and las vegas.


fast eddie 48

BF, Clarkton is pretty far out, especially for the Field bars. There is a somwhat regular shuttle service, I think, but personally I would not stay there. Many hotels have free Wi-Fi now, as do several restaurants. Ones I know off the top of my head:

Swiss Chalet
Kokomoz
Central Prk (hs wirede connection in all rooms, but not sure about Wi-Fi)
Cottage Kitchen

[QUOTE=Hippie]

Swiss Chalet
Kokomoz
Central Prk (hs wirede connection in all rooms, but not sure about Wi-Fi)
Cottage Kitchen[/QUOTE]

Central Park has Wi-Fi in lobby but I think you need the wep key, just ask for it.

Just had Dinner with a Cebu Pacific Vice President,Cebu Pacific is going to be running flights from Clark to Cebu,Clark to Hong Kong and Singapore.Angeles City just became more accesibile in the near future

[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Just had Dinner with a Cebu Pacific Vice President,Cebu Pacific is going to be running flights from Clark to Cebu,Clark to Hong Kong and Singapore.Angeles City just became more accesibile in the near future[/QUOTE]And will they finally go "high tech" to allow tickets booking through the net?

[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Just had Dinner with a Cebu Pacific Vice President,Cebu Pacific is going to be running flights from Clark to Cebu,Clark to Hong Kong and Singapore.Angeles City just became more accesibile in the near future[/QUOTE]

Sounds great, especially CRK-HKG! CR Airways (ain't that a great name for an airline flying to Phils BTW) could use some competition on this route. If these flights are reasonable in timetable & pricing I might just switch from TR to 5J.

However, another thing to consider before using Cebu Pacific is the airline's safety record. 5J's 1998 crash ( pilot error ) killed no less than 104 people and Cebu Pacific was also involved in another incident more recently (Feb 2006) at MIA, fortunately without casualties.

Botaki6, I booked my Manila-Davao tickets on Cebu Pacific's site with no problem, but I'm not sure if this is available on their international flights.

Bold Focker ,

Hippie is right , Wi-Fi would not be a good reason to stay at Clarkton , because other hotels have it too.

But I like Clarkton - it's quiet , nice pool , good rooms and cheaper than the hotels in the center. There are trikes in front of the hotel and you would be in the center within 5 minutes. Also free shuttle service every full hour. No Taxi needed.

About walking , if you walk without looking left and right , you will reach the center in 15 minutes. But as you pass plenty of expat bars on that way , I bet you would never arrive....:-)

BP

Bamboo Pete, you don't define what you mean by the center, so I'd like to post some more detailed times that I have actually measured in the past. To get from Clarkton to the Kokomoz area by trike takes about 10 minutes on the rare times the road is not busy, and 15-20 when they are. Walking from Cottage Kitchen, which is slightly closer than Clarkton, to Central Park took me a little over half an hour at a moderate pace when I did it last July-and I was drenched with sweat by the time I arrived.

I really recommend that any first time visitor start out at one of the hotels around Field. They can then branch out to the Perimeter area and see what they think. I have stayed at a couple of the hotels around the Petron station in the past, and found that it just did not fit my pattern of activity well, even though I really like the pool areas and value at several of the hotels out there.

I was thinking of staying at the Central Park in their premeire rooms.

Arethese rooms as large as the deluxe rooms at the Orchid. I stayed there last month but $59 is pretty steep. How would you compare the Central Park to the Orchid? I stayed at the Orchid for 2 weeks and didn't use the pool so the pool isn't that big of a draw for me.

[QUOTE=Snooky]I was thinking of staying at the Central Park in their premeire rooms.

Arethese rooms as large as the deluxe rooms at the Orchid. I stayed there last month but $59 is pretty steep. How would you compare the Central Park to the Orchid? I stayed at the Orchid for 2 weeks and didn't use the pool so the pool isn't that big of a draw for me.[/QUOTE]


to Snooky

Central park is only $ 26.00 usd and Orchild room is larger if you don't need the pool why paid twice as much ,Only thing about orchild is the staff and
the serivce is much better than central park , I rather spend that money to
get 2 girl for the night.

fast eddie 48

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]to Snooky

Central park is only $ 26.00 usd and Orchild room is larger if you don't need the pool why paid twice as much ,Only thing about orchild is the staff and
the serivce is much better than central park , I rather spend that money to
get 2 girl for the night.

fast eddie 48[/QUOTE]I stayed at Central Park for a week in April. I thought the service was great. All the staff was very friendly and even the maids were friendly and knew my name. A friend of mine stayed there recently and was also very impressed by the staff. I have never stayed at either Orchid. Just went to the Wild Orchid a couple of the times and had a few beers at the bar by the pool.

RMW

The Central Park is actually $29 a night. I love the place. Great staff. Their new place callled the Pacific Breeze will open around December 1st and rooms will be around $42. Much bigger too. They will also have jacuzzi rooms for around $60+. The new hotel will be near the Wild Orchid off of Santos St.

[QUOTE=RockyMtnWay]I stayed at Central Park for a week in April. I thought the service was great. All the staff was very friendly and even the maids were friendly and knew my name. A friend of mine stayed there recently and was also very impressed by the staff. I have never stayed at either Orchid. Just went to the Wild Orchid a couple of the times and had a few beers at the bar by the pool.


to rocky mtn way

Central park need a bigger pool than the bath tub they have , I like the hotel
location some how I think orchild staff made me feel more welcome , Maybe I
will try the new place next time.


fast eddie 48

Hi all,

I heard a japanese guy killed a girl there. Has anyone of yours more information?

Snooky, actually getting a Deluxe room at CP is really rare. You normally have to book months in advance, or catch a cancellation. Someone told me they only have 2, but I have never verified this.

Hippie,
Fortunately or unfortunately I can't get back to AC until January and have actually secured the Deluxe room at the CP. I think I will stay there. I don't recall seeing the entrance to the place when I stayed at the orchid last month but others have told me that it is straight across from the Top Cat or the new Heartbreakers (BTW, great ne club). Is that correct?

[QUOTE=Hippie]Snooky, actually getting a Deluxe room at CP is really rare. You normally have to book months in advance, or catch a cancellation. Someone told me they only have 2, but I have never verified this.[/QUOTE]

Snooky:

I stayed at the Central Park back in February. Here are the directions to the hotel as I remember them.

Imagine that you are walking down the main drag from the perimeter, heading in the direction of Kokomoz restaurant. Turn right at the alley just before you reach Kokomoz. Now Kokomoz is on your left hand side. Turn right again at the first alley. Walk just a few meters, and turn left at the first alley. Central Park is about 100 meters down this alley, to your right hand side.

Raz


[QUOTE=Snooky]Hippie,
Fortunately or unfortunately I can't get back to AC until January and have actually secured the Deluxe room at the CP. I think I will stay there. I don't recall seeing the entrance to the place when I stayed at the orchid last month but others have told me that it is straight across from the Top Cat or the new Heartbreakers (BTW, great ne club). Is that correct?[/QUOTE]

Mak Daddy is comin' to town. Ok, I have relented after years of claiming Philippino women do nothing for me, and agreed to accompany Ashiya Gaijin on an excursion to AC. Of course, it is purely for educational research purposes, and intellectual edification. We will be there from October 7 to 16, so let us know if you want to meet up to party. I am researching young three holers, with little or no pubic hair. 10 in one 24 hour period is the goal.

I have a question about ATMs. My bank uses the Plus network, and I tried looking up an ATM in Angeles City, but there are none. Bizzarre. Has anyone used their debit card to withdraw money from their foreign checking account at an ATM in AC?

[QUOTE=Mak Daddy]I am researching young three holers, with little or no pubic hair.[/QUOTE]

Tough job, I'm afraid.
Cheers!

I am dedicated to my task.

[QUOTE=Ekspat]Tough job, I'm afraid.
Cheers![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sting]I heard a japanese guy killed a girl there. Has anyone of yours more information?[/QUOTE]

Spent the last weekend in AC. Have heard this story also, but since my hotties were all fine, i wasn't that interested in the details. One girls told me it was a Korean, so she said she doesn't go with them anymore. Dunno more. Otherwise rainy season is great, huge selection. :D

[QUOTE=Mak Daddy]I am dedicated to my task.[/QUOTE]
Good luck!
Cheers!

[QUOTE=Mak Daddy]Mak Daddy is comin' to town. Ok, I have relented after years of claiming Philippino women do nothing for me, and agreed to accompany Ashiya Gaijin on an excursion to AC. Of course, it is purely for educational research purposes, and intellectual edification. We will be there from October 7 to 16, so let us know if you want to meet up to party. I am researching young three holers, with little or no pubic hair. 10 in one 24 hour period is the goal.

I have a question about ATMs. My bank uses the Plus network, and I tried looking up an ATM in Angeles City, but there are none. Bizzarre. Has anyone used their debit card to withdraw money from their foreign checking account at an ATM in AC?[/QUOTE]

You might want to do a search on the ATM topic here. I believe there is some information here. There are issues with ATM's as there are hardly any at all on Fields or Perimiter. But they are available elsewhere like on McArthur. My ATM card has pretty much all the affiliations so I don't have a problem with the majority of the ATM's worldwide. There is a network and it might be Plus there was talk about that it was difficult to find good ATM selection for. If you are only there for a week you might want to consider bringing in some US $100 bills to change instead. I would never consider using a debit or credit card somewhere like that and I doubt that debit card usage is even used there.

[QUOTE=Key Master]I would never consider using a credit card somewhere like that[/QUOTE]

Why not? I've used my CC regularly in AC and never any problems.
But in case a wife at home checks the CC-bill and if there's "20 beer and 2 barfine" from Dollhouse, Angeles City, okay, I agree, not too smart. :D

Cheers!

I've been in AC for about 23 days now and I've loved it here! I live in Bangkok, but for chasing LBFM's AC is the place to be. Just my opinion.

Tomorrow I "Fly the Bus to Manila" then fly Cebu Pacific to Davao. After Davao, I'm thinking about Bohol.

But I digress.

I stayed at Central Park for two nights, then relocated to Marquis, behind the Petron Station, away from the main area of Fields-Santos Streets. It's more quiet there and I've started going to th "Perimiter Bars" a string of bars about a km away from the Main Gate. Beer is P50 (some bars have happy hour specials for P35), ladies drinks are P100 and the girls seem to appreciate being BF. Not the huge selection of Neros or Blue Nile but it works for Billy Baht.

I BF one girl from Nasty Duck and she would not let me sleep at all: she kept gigling and saying in tha sing-song Filipina voice "You picked the wrong girl, I am sex mann-I-ac. All I can say is that she loved her profession.

Thi Hi has some older girls, but I BF one 24 year old Palawan girl that was a real gem, total GFE. In fact, out of 10 bf's, only one was a problem. (May from Brass Knob, closer to the main Field avenue area.) After boom-boom and BBBJ she started whinning that I was "too big" I'm not and I kicked her butt out. I probably should have gone back to the bar and talked to the mamasan, but I thought, screw it, her loss not mine.

In ths smaller perimiter bars, the BF is P1, 000. If you give a small tip, say P100, the damage is $21. 83 at P50. 4 / USD. Back in Bangkok the bf alone is 600 Baht, then maybe B1, 500 -mimimum- for long time. Total damage is $56 at THB 37. 5 / USD. The beer is much cheaper here P50 (Perimiter) vs. THB 120 (or more) in Nana.

I'm staying at the Marquis (behind the Petron Station) for P700 / night. Air con, good security and they call your room when the girl leaves to ask if everything is ok.

There is a small restaurant opposite the Marquis that has great German meals for P145 to P160 and the San Miguel Light is P20 for a 330ml bottle (yes, P20, no typo! )

Some misc info:

I use the Banco de Oro ATM at the SM Mall. No service charge and a maximum withdrawl of P10, 000. (Never tried multiples of 10k on the same day)

Hair cut at a clean Filipino barber shop = P60

Beer in 7 - 11 starts at P20; they have chairs and will let you drink it outside while you watch the Fields "Parade. "

Internet cafes opposite 7-11; High speed for P20 / hour.

Jeepney rides for P7. 5. Watch out for the pick pockets. Some of the favorite scams are to drop a coin or spit near you; your pocket is picked when you move.

I got a 21 "free" visa upon arriving at Clark. My first visa extension cost me P2520 for an additional 38 days (21 = 38 = 59) I'm not sure waht my next 59 days will cost me, but at least I won't have to leave the country to extend.

I'm returning to Thailand in late October, but believe me, I'll be back again soon!

Billy Baht out!

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[QUOTE=Mak Daddy]
I have a question about ATMs. My bank uses the Plus network, and I tried looking up an ATM in Angeles City, but there are none. Bizzarre. Has anyone used their debit card to withdraw money from their foreign checking account at an ATM in AC?[/QUOTE]

The answer to your ATM question is well covered in the forum. I covered the same question in Feb of this year. Not much luck with Plus network, 4k PHP max in AC. Look back at the history on the topic, big daddy.

Raz

[QUOTE=Ekspat]Why not? I've used my CC regularly in AC and never any problems.
But in case a wife at home checks the CC-bill and if there's "20 beer and 2 barfine" from Dollhouse, Angeles City, okay, I agree, not too smart. :D

Cheers![/QUOTE]

I just try to be careful with what and where I charge. Plus there are scams going on all the time, so it's in the back of my mind. I am more likely to charge at the hotel but never the clubs. I could care less about convenience there. For my credit cards the conversion fees and I believe many places in southeast asia charge for the credit card fee they get charged on to your bill are too much for the convenience and chance. Even though one might not have ever experienced a problem doesn't mean that there aren't or won't ever be. I rather pay in their currency through ATM withdrawals or currency exchange than deal with potential hassles later. That's just me, maybe I'm paranoid.

[QUOTE=Key Master]I just try to be careful with what and where I charge. Plus there are scams going on all the time, so it's in the back of my mind. That's just me, maybe I'm paranoid.[/QUOTE]It's always good to be a little paranoid. You can also buy a prepaid credit card from almost any bank or Travelex. They sell Visa, MC, Amex, or pretty much any major kind of CC. You put in any amount you like, and use it like a cash card until it runs out. This has the added benefit that if it is stolen, you cannot possibly lose more than that amount. You can also stop the card if stolen and get a replacement. No wife or girlfriend will get the statements either. Just another idea.

Cheers,

M

Is that ATM you mention in the Plus Network? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Billy Baht]

I use the Banco de Oro ATM at the SM Mall. No service charge and a maximum withdrawl of P10, 000. (Never tried multiples of 10k on the same day)

Can anybody tell me if there is any place to water ski in Angeles City?

Also, how far away are these places:

Camarines Sur
Davao
Olongapo
Lake Caliraya
Boracay island
Laguna

They all have water skiing.

Thanks.

Olongapo is the closest about 90 min. away.

[QUOTE=Mak Daddy]Can anybody tell me if there is any place to water ski in Angeles City?

Also, how far away are these places:

Camarines Sur
Davao
Olongapo
Lake Caliraya
Boracay island
Laguna

They all have water skiing.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

There's no water ski at all. No beach, no sightseeing. AC is clearly a matter of taste and it should never be forgotten, that there's almost nothing to do at daytime, except beer drinking and barhopping. Especially in the rainy season now.

Eg. friend of mine from Europe based in Singapore travelled to AC once, he said "never again".
His words: It's cheap, okay, but I'm not that shit-poor, that I have to go there again. I'll get girls in better places with many fun-activities.

One man's meat is the other one's poison.

Anyway, enjoy AC!
As I'll do again end of this month!
Cheers!

[QUOTE=Ekspat]There's no water ski at all. No beach, no sightseeing. AC is clearly a matter of taste and it should never be forgotten, that there's almost nothing to do at daytime, except beer drinking and barhopping. Especially in the rainy season now.

Eg. friend of mine from Europe based in Singapore travelled to AC once, he said "never again".

His words: It's cheap, okay, but I'm not that shit-poor, that I have to go there again. I'll get girls in better places with many fun-activities.

One man's meat is the other one's poison.

Anyway, enjoy AC!

As I'll do again end of this month!

Cheers![/QUOTE]The above post is correct - only water skiing you might do in angeles in either in your bathtub or in the mud outside if it rains a lot. Angeles doesn't have a whole lot going on other than the girls which is enough for most people that go there. I have to admit, I get bored there after a week, not with the girls but with nothing much to do during the day. You can go to the mall and hang out there, but that's not overly exciting. Someone should open a starbucks at least. I'd think it'd do great business with all the foreign tourists. Think about how many guys could use a caffeine & sugar boost before hitting th bars or heading back to their hotel for a night of boom boom.

Mak Daddy, I don't mean to be rude but I realize it will probably sound that way. However...10-20 minutes on Google would have answered your question about water skiing, and actually given you some idea of the geography of the PI.

Regarding ATMs, BPI on McArthur just past Robinson Mall and on the other side of the road has a 20.000 peso limit, or at least it did in May.

[QUOTE=Ekspat] ... No beach, no sightseeing. AC is clearly a matter of taste and it should never be forgotten, that there's almost nothing to do at daytime, except beer drinking and barhopping ...

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I would add that one can also watch TV, use the swimming pool, read three newspapers, meet a friend from ISG - or, even get the first bbbj of the day. In other words stress is over, relaxing is on! Wasting time in a way like that it's the greatest benefaction I indulge myself twice a year. :)

Cheers - Hesekiels

[QUOTE=Hesekiels]I would add that one can also watch TV, use the swimming pool, read three newspapers, meet a friend from ISG - or, even get the first bbbj of the day. In other words stress is over, relaxing is on! Wasting time in a way like that it's the greatest benefaction I indulge myself twice a year. :)

Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]
I threw your question to my friend the Regional Director of the Department of Tourism of None Sexual things to do in AC.Here they are Visit the Hot spring Spa at the Foot of Mt Pinatubo inside Clark,It is run by Koreans.Play golf at Mimosa,Gamble at the AC Casino,Go to Clark and hire an Ultra light and fly over the area,go Pinatubo trekking.Hope this helps

Yea, that is what I thought to, so I spent more than that on Google. Google Earth does not list AC, Yahoo Philippines has no maps, and the other maps I found on-line were not interactive, so I was trying to scan all these names I did not recognize. Sorry for the inconvenience, Hippie, but the comments have been really informative. My appreciation goes out to the posts' authors.

Do you know if the ATM was a Plus Network ATM? Thanks.

[QUOTE=Hippie]Mak Daddy, I don't mean to be rude but I realize it will probably sound that way. However...10-20 minutes on Google would have answered your question about water skiing, and actually given you some idea of the geography of the PI.

Regarding ATMs, BPI on McArthur just past Robinson Mall and on the other side of the road has a 20.000 peso limit, or at least it did in May.[/QUOTE]

Input "...place..." and then do a Google IMAGE search. This will give you a good starting point.

Libraries also have things like maps. Actually, libraries are far better at maps than the Internet...unless, of course, you're a space alien looking for a landing site.

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Billy,

Great post, brother! I, too, like the Perimeter Bars. You might want to check out the DM Residente Hotel, if you want a change. 950 for a standard room, no Credit Card surcharge, small clean pool and quiet location. I'll be there 9/17 for a few days, after a trip to Boracay with my Perimeter girl.

Just heard from my gf and she said that a girl was found murdered at the Clarkton hotel by a German national last week. She went on to say that there was another murder there that remains unsolved. She thinks that they just payed off the police. The hotel also kicked in their share of the payola. If I'm not mistaken, the Clarkton hotel is owned by a German.

[QUOTE=Firewalker]Billy,

Great post, brother! I, too, like the Perimeter Bars. You might want to check out the DM Residente Hotel, if you want a change. 950 for a standard room, no Credit Card surcharge, small clean pool and quiet location. I'll be there 9/17 for a few days, after a trip to Boracay with my Perimeter girl.[/QUOTE]

Just dont crap too much..they will charge you P10 for any extra roll of bathroom tissue you require. A real nickel-and-dime-you operation. That's why they have 950 base rate LOL. Also, security tends to be bit lax.

Further, DM is a bit of a favorite for "regular" filipino visitors such as people coming in from MNL to attend Systems+ courses etc. Enjoy your walk of shame :)

[QUOTE=Mak Daddy]Mak Daddy is comin' to town. Ok, I have relented after years of claiming Philippino women do nothing for me, and agreed to accompany Ashiya Gaijin on an excursion to AC. Of course, it is purely for educational research purposes, and intellectual edification. We will be there from October 7 to 16, so let us know if you want to meet up to party. I am researching young three holers, with little or no pubic hair. 10 in one 24 hour period is the goal.

I have a question about ATMs. My bank uses the Plus network, and I tried looking up an ATM in Angeles City, but there are none. Bizzarre. Has anyone used their debit card to withdraw money from their foreign checking account at an ATM in AC?[/QUOTE]There is a Metrobank branch on McArthur Ave just before Saver's Mall but on the other side of the street whose atm's will accept cards on the Plus network such as the Bank of America debit card which I have. However, as stated previously, the atm will only dispense p4,000 per transaction, but if you go inside the branch, you may withdraw the amount your bank allows.

The ultra light rides that CL mentioned are a real hoot ! Fun ride, nice views of the lahar destruction not otherwise visable. It was about $20 US for a 30 minute rdie the last time I did it (mid 1990's). No doubt more now.

I'll be at the Orchid Inn from Oct 1 to the 12th.

FD

[QUOTE=Mattrick]Just heard from my gf and she said that a girl was found murdered at the Clarkton hotel by a German national last week. She went on to say that there was another murder there that remains unsolved. She thinks that they just payed off the police. The hotel also kicked in their share of the payola. If I'm not mistaken, the Clarkton hotel is owned by a German.[/QUOTE]

I heard the rumour also about a cherry girl being murdered by a German. Of course, rumours in the Philippines can get out of hand. For instance, I heard that the body was found in a garbage bgd all chopped-up!

Any old hands living in Angeles that can give us the straight Story?

The United States has a murder rate of about one third of the Philippines, but relatively speaking it is only two notches away in this listing.

<http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcgvinco.html> Comparatively, it is not really that much more dangerous than the US.

[QUOTE=Tooch]I heard the rumour also about a cherry girl being murdered by a German. Of course, rumours in the Philippines can get out of hand. For instance, I heard that the body was found in a garbage bgd all chopped-up!

Any old hands living in Angeles that can give us the straight Story?[/QUOTE]

What is up with a small number of the people on this site? This is supposed to be a place we pursue a pleasurable pastime that we all enjoy. Instead, there are a few people who are bitter and angry about something, probably totally unrelated to this site, but insist on taking it out here.

I am talking about people like [blue]Report edited by Admin[/blue]. Ask yourself: Why am I so bitter? Get some professional help, or something, but just chill out when you post here.

[QUOTE=X Man]Input "...place..." and then do a Google IMAGE search. This will give you a good starting point.

Libraries also have things like maps. Actually, libraries are far better at maps than the Internet...unless, of course, you're a space alien looking for a landing site.

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I don't know if it really means much when a murder is solved in places like this. If it involves a foreigner being killed it is usually closed as a random type of robbery/murder when it really isn't. I may be wrong, but that is the feeling I got from some of the expats there last time.

I've been asking myself, why am I so bitter and angry. I ask, and I ask, and I ask,....and the answer is always the same.

I'm not. I'm having a pretty good old time. A bit tired at the moment but that was because the lady sharing my bed had to get up at 6am. That's not such an early hour, but I'm not used to all the fking, kssing, sweating, sharing of bodily fluids at 6:02, especially after doing the same around 1am. Yea, she was that fast! Also very good at VOICING her, umm, feelings.

You got to love nurses...they have that giving spirit.

Welcome to the list Mak Daddy. Hope you've had success learning how to find the difference between Angeles city and Bumfuk Egypt.

X

Many people are just not very good at online searching, and those of us who have used search sites on a daily basis for a few years tend to forget that. What may seem natural to us may just be because of lots of practice. If you input '"Angeles City" philippines location" the first item returned is a Wikipedia entry showing the location of Angeles City. This took about 10 seconds, as those keywords were obvious to me, but that may not be true for everyone.

I'm not sure if I used my Plus network card there. The one I am sure about us Maestro and Cirrus. Interestingly, when I tried 'BPI "plus network" philippines' on Google, the first response that appeared was to this thread! Based on the very limited hits this produced, I doubt Plus is supported by BPI banks, but can't say for sure.

[QUOTE=Mak Daddy]What is up with a small number of the people on this site? This is supposed to be a place we pursue a pleasurable pastime that we all enjoy. Instead, there are a few people who are bitter and angry about something, probably totally unrelated to this site, but insist on taking it out here.

I have been asking myself this question for sometime. It seems that many guys who have frequented the Philippines become very bitter and seem to complain too much. Ok, we know, the place is dirty and slummy. The people are poor.

The fact of the matter is that you just got laid by a whole bunch of chicks in so short of time. Why complain? Why be bitter? Honestly, if I got laid by ten chicks in a short amount of time, everything else in the world would seem ok to me.

You all familiar with a CPAP? I have sleep apnea and have to sleep with it to force air down my throat. Anyone else have to to use it?? Would the girls freak out?

Be on your toes about bringing underage gals back to the hotel.There is a new scamm about after you bring the older one back to the room.The gal gets a txt and her sister shows up.{underage} and wants to use the shower or bathroom.After she is inn you are fucked.The knock on the door comes and she is bare assed and underage.You are in big shit and the deal is they had the plan from the start.You are the victom of the underage working with the police scamm.

Please be on guard there have been 2-3 guys in the last week that have fallen victom to robery in the trike.This has happened up around the america hotel in the daytime.You are in a trike and a motor bike with two people on it come up beside you and snatch and grab your gold around your neck.Please do not wear or bring anything out withyou you you can not afford to loose here.


The premier hotel and marquis hotels are great places to stay here in tow. Good securety and great staff.The prices are great als.

B.B....

do internet search pillar procedure. Restore medical is distributer. You have to get doctor to put it in. I did it in Bangkok. It worked for me.

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Do you know the place(s) the original girl was picked up in? We could then avaoid that bar.

[QUOTE]Be on your toes about bringing underage gals back to the hotel.There is a new scamm about after you bring the older one back to the room.The gal gets a txt and her sister shows up.{underage} and wants to use the shower or bathroom.After she is inn you are fucked.The knock on the door comes and she is bare assed and underage.You are in big shit and the deal is they had the plan from the start.You are the victom of the underage working with the police scamm.

Please be on guard there have been 2-3 guys in the last week that have fallen victom to robery in the trike.This has happened up around the america hotel in the daytime.You are in a trike and a motor bike with two people on it come up beside you and snatch and grab your gold around your neck.Please do not wear or bring anything out withyou you you can not afford to loose here.

The premier hotel and marquis hotels are great places to stay here in tow. Good securety and great staff.The prices are great als.

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[QUOTE=Lee66]do internet search pillar procedure. restore medical is distributer. you have to get doctor to put it in I did it in bangkok. It worked for me[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info Lee, I'll look into it. I'm not overly hope tho, I've had the surgery to remove tonsils and hollow out the throat and it only got rid of the snoring and didn't effect the apnea. Its a fucking curse!

Regarding sleep apnia, the girls would probably be a little put off by that but not totally. I am willing to bet you are military, seems sleep apnia is all the rage there theses days.

[QUOTERegarding sleep apnia, the girls would probably be a little put off by that but not totally. I am willing to bet you are military, seems sleep apnia is all the rage there theses days.[/QUOTE]Good guess, retired [blue][Text deleted by Admin][/blue]

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The bar is LA PASHA and the gals name is aileen. She is short curley brown hair and works as a tequela girl.The bar is in on the deal as what I am told. Please use caution with any non or clever bar gals here.

The money is light here for lack of tourists and they are all hungry.They will steel the balls of a dead monkey here right now.

PLAY SAFER, B.B...

I use one and when they ask I tell them what for and they have never said anymore about it.Case closed.

They are here for pesos not a question and asnwer session.

B.B...

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Plus will work at metro bank and china bank and equetable bank. China,metro will despense 4000 p at a time. Equetable will give you 5000 P per action.

I know there is metro and uquetable both on the base on ckark. I feel more secure at clark and well worth the 30-p fee for a ride.

Just answer the questions guys whats the big deal ha???

B.B.

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Spent 5 days in AC, stayed in a suite at the Swiss Chalet. For $54us a night it was great, had a computer with i/net service, a canopy bed, couch, and other amenities. The shower is in a loft area on the second floor. The sink and commode were in a separate room on the second floor.

I have always found you have essentially two choices with respect to the clubs, large and glitzy (e.g., Blue Nile, Doll House, etc.) or small and cozy. I always prefer the small and cozy, I believe they are more fun.

I was surprised with Insomnia on this trip. I had not spent much time there on previous trips. It seemed to me the club was going down hill, i.e., boring and no good looking girls. Just to show you how the pendulum swings back and forth in this town, I had my best barfine (Rosie) and overall best drinking time in Insomnia. The girls were cute and, just as important, a lot of fun.

Spent an afternoon with a friend at the Perimeter Road bars, it was great. At one bar (sorry, forgot the name) they pulled/played/sucked on our dicks while we drank. Had an interesting experience as a result of a girl from “Foxy’s.” Barfined this tall, slim, gal. She had beautiful skin and those large round breasts so rare for Filipino girls. We were talking at the bar and, although she could speak good English, she was all over the place and could not stick to one subject for more than a few minutes. Took her back to my room and my friend (we got separated) turned up. I had her strip for him and his jaw dropped when he saw her body. One small flaw, she had a cracked front tooth, she claimed it happened recently.

My friend left and she went up to take a shower. I was dozing off in bed and was in a fore-conscious state. For a moment I thought, how nice, the hotel even provides a waterfall in the room. I came to and realized this gal was pointing the shower head over the railing and the water was cascading down into my room. I ran upstairs and asked her what the fuck she was doing.

She then came down and to bed. She began sucking my dick,however, every 15 seconds she would stop and talk about the most inane things. For example, one time she started talking about how her Auntie made lumpia but she did not like it, but her sister liked it because . . . This went on for about 20 minutes until I realized this gal was on shabu. I threw her out.

Went down Santo’s street one afternoon and had a blast. My friend and I both got excellent blow jobs. Also funny was the fact that my friend was staying at the Wild Orchid, whose entrance is right across the street from the Santo’s street bars. Every time we came in or out of the Wild Orchid, or I would wait for him in front of the hotel, the Santo’s street ladies who “knew” us would go through their lewd gyrations, stick out there tongues, then suggest acts they would perform on us. It was hilarious, the doorman tried to ignore them al talk about the “rain we are having.” Imagine, here is this club trying to present this air of elegance, and right across the street are Santo’s street best. It was great.

Thanks [blue][Text deleted by Admin][/blue], so you've never been sleeping / sucking air and been cleaned out / taken advantage of? Seems like a ripe opportunity for the money hungry?

Any issues with electricity? Thanks for your info...it weighs heavy on me.

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Hello [blue][Text deleted by Admin][/blue],

Welcome to the ISG! Here is some advise since you are a newbie.

January is nice and dry but you might want to stay more than a week if your comming from North America with jet lag and all.

Make a reservation at the Orchid Inn. It has a pool and is right in the middle of all the action. If it does not fit your bill move on to another hotel. [url]http://orchid-inn.com[/url]

Jump on Swagman's "Fly The Bus" leaving from the Swagman hotel in Manila. (11 kms. from the airport) [url]http://angelescity.info/map.htm[/url]

Make sure you file a report and have a great time!

Excelsior!

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Nice field report [blue][Text deleted by Admin][/blue].

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Thanks for the info [blue][Text edited by Admin][/blue], I was thinking that too, especially after I got serious about booking a flight for 1400 bucks I'm probably goin to wait til I have a 2week vacation.

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I just booked a one way ticket from Cebu to Angeles for less than $2 USD (99 Pesos) on Cebu Pacific! Of course, the add-on charges came to another 1000 Pesos

I don't know how long this promotion will last. Even if they go to regular pricing though, it is only up to 568 Pesos (lowest rate)

I know...I shouldn't be giving free advertising to Cebu Pacific. BUT, this a great deal and I'm sure some mongers will appreciate it

Tooch

Thanks [blue][Report edited by Admin][/blue],

We assume you aren't getting kickbacks...and even if you were, so what. That's a damn good deal.

I think the Cebu planes are newer and sometimes they can get you discounts at hotels. On the other hand, I had a really long wait at one of their mall outlets (Davao I think) and I hate those in flight games.

As for the smaller airlines, I once gave a very good review (at this site) of SEAir, far better than larger rival Spirit. That was over a year ago, take it for what it's worth.

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[QUOTE]There's no water ski at all. No beach, no sightseeing. AC is clearly a matter of taste and it should never be forgotten, that there's almost nothing to do at daytime, except beer drinking and barhopping. Especially in the rainy season now.[/quote]Three years ago there was Go-Kart track on Clark. The cars were fast enough and the track condition was okay.

Ted

No, I'm not getting a kick-back, nor am I an employee of Cebu Pacific. I just thought someone would like to get a hold of the promtional price while it is available.

I never flew SEAIR, although I've considered it. The website isn't very user-friendly and I think it is a bit expensive.

I've flown Cebu Pacific many times and it was adequate. The big problem they have right now is that their flights are constantly late. Unless you get one of the first flights in the day, budget an extra hour into your travel plans.

Tooch

Part of being on this website is the exchange of travel information. In this day and age of rising airfares, it is always nice to know about special promo rates and such. If I came accross a deal, I would surely pass it along to the brethren. Thanks for the tip!

Excelsior!

Dear Editor,

I think ye may be applying the "no crosstalk rule" a little too harshly. Often when we are mentioning someone's name, we are simply making it clear to anyone reading that the post is referring back to a previous post.

Sorry for posting something that isn't related to AC.

X

Maybe Jackson thinks the tone of the site should be a bit more friendly. I don't know how Tooch could be receiving a kickback. How would they trace the purchase to credit him for the sale? Besides being ridiculous, the accusation creates a negative atmosphere. Lighten up.

[QUOTE=X Man]Dear Editor,

I think ye may be applying the "no crosstalk rule" a little too harshly. Often when we are mentioning someone's name, we are simply making it clear to anyone reading that the post is referring back to a previous post.

Sorry for posting something that isn't related to AC.

X[/QUOTE]

I thought it was pretty obvious that I was complimenting Tooch on his post, not accusing him of getting kickbacks for providing the information.

I suppose I'm in violation of the crosstalk rule when I say this, but if Tooch felt I was making an accusation - then I apologize. As for the person who is quoted below, please follow your own advice.

X


[QUOTE=Mak Daddy]Maybe Jackson thinks the tone of the site should be a bit more friendly. I don't know how Tooch could be receiving a kickback. How would they trace the purchase to credit him for the sale? Besides being ridiculous, the accusation creates a negative atmosphere. Lighten up.[/QUOTE]

Is there an age limit on people at this site? I have my doubts when someone sends a "happy, happy, happy" post and then turns around and sends an insulting pm.

Anyway, I haven't been to AC in nearly two years but may stop by for a few days sometime before Christmas. If anyone wants to meet up and is over 18, please pm me.

Strangely, after all that time I still have two sure thing contacts. One lady I met online. She lived between AC and Manila ... what is that - Butuan? She brought along a chaperone to meet me in Manila and I banged her right there in the bed next to the chaperone. Pretty good for a first date. The chaperone later emailed me and said she wanted to meet me. You gotta love chaperones like that. Andway the original girl apparently now works in a coffee shop in AC.

Then there is another girl I never had, but she used to work at one of the sleazy bars out past the American Hotel. I can't remember the name, but it was open early and seemed to attract the type of guys who I assumed lived in AC, or spent a lot of time there. I say that because they spent more time drinking and shooting the breeze than playing with the girls.

Was the name Dirty Duck? There were two very similar places in the same building. It was really dark inside and it took a while for the eyes to adjust. At the time the girls were wearing see-through blouses. I had a few beers and played with her tits. We kept in touch and now she's in nursing school in AC.

Questions:
Does the new Orchid Inn have it's own swimming pool?
How much is a fair price for a trike from the main bar area out to the America Hotel and beyond?

X

X

[QUOTE=X Man]Questions:

Does the new Orchid Inn have it's own swimming pool?

X

X Man the pool is great and get yourself a balcony room. I cannot say enough good things about the place and its staff. I am hoping to be there again sometime around Thanksgiving. I highly suggest you book your room if possible now because when I spoke to them yesterday they were pretty much full in November and December they told me. If you have never stayed there previously you will be in for a great experience and alot of it has to do with the beautiful pool and the swim up bar that they have.

Who is doing the name calling?

[QUOTE=X Man]

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Has anyone on this list hiked or climbed around Mt. P? I like hiking, but the drinking and screwing all night somehow doesn't put me in the mood for hiking.

I'd love to be able to tell the chat girls that I went to AC. Then when they say, "oh, I know why you went THERE", I can send my Mt P pictures and say, "just hiking babe".

Oh, have I been accused of "name calling"? What name was it? Can you tell me? The "quote" someone sent was editted, which indicates I broke protocol. I'm have mixed feelings about moderators, but over time I can see they are necessary. But does anyone remember the "name calling"?

The quote also didn't include the part where I helped the poster find the question that was being posed. If I'm not mistaken, the question was, "Where is AC?". Surely a little teasing was appropriate. Did I overdo it. Probably....like many people around here...I overdo everthing I can get my hands on!

There was also an issue of someone accusing me of inulting T. I gave the poster the benefit of the doubt, but the next day there was an insult in my pm. Well, I don't have much respect for people who deliberately mislead or lie.

ANYWAY... hope you all...

Find a constructive way to contribute to ISG...share your info, or at least ask intelligent questions.

Have a thick skin....

Take your camera when you finally break open your piggy bank and buy a ticket to a 3rd world country.

X

I have read in variouls local newspapers, and on-line, about hikers being attaced and robbed. I believe on was shot last year.

Be carefull.

[QUOTE=X Man]Has anyone on this list hiked or climbed around Mt. P? I like hiking, but the drinking and screwing all night somehow doesn't put me in the mood for hiking.

I'd love to be able to tell the chat girls that I went to AC. Then when they say, "oh, I know why you went THERE", I can send my Mt P pictures and say, "just hiking babe".

Oh, have I been accused of "name calling"? What name was it? Can you tell me? The "quote" someone sent was editted, which indicates I broke protocol. I'm have mixed feelings about moderators, but over time I can see they are necessary. But does anyone remember the "name calling"?

The quote also didn't include the part where I helped the poster find the question that was being posed. If I'm not mistaken, the question was, "Where is AC?". Surely a little teasing was appropriate. Did I overdo it. Probably....like many people around here...I overdo everthing I can get my hands on!

There was also an issue of someone accusing me of inulting T. I gave the poster the benefit of the doubt, but the next day there was an insult in my pm. Well, I don't have much respect for people who deliberately mislead or lie.

ANYWAY... hope you all...

Find a constructive way to contribute to ISG...share your info, or at least ask intelligent questions.

Have a thick skin....

Take your camera when you finally break open your piggy bank and buy a ticket to a 3rd world country.

X[/QUOTE]

Ok guys, I will keep the pictures coming if you tell me how well I did... Rate the chicks. If I hear some positive feedback, I will post a lot more.

First, tell me if you still believe the Angeles City women are worse looking then the ones in Manila. Let me know guys how well I did.

Good day Mates,

New to the board here, First of all many thanks to all the knowledge on this forum.

I will be traveling to AC for the first time in Nov. and staying at the Wild Orchid. Chivas you convinced me with your post. However, I was told the Veranda rooms were the best. Can you tell me more about these?

Also, does anyone have any updated information on the Typhoon that just passed through? Is AC still standing? Are all the bars and hotels intact?

Aussie

[QUOTE=Goodtimes2]Ok guys, I will keep the pictures coming if you tell me how well I did... Rate the chicks. If I hear some positive feedback, I will post a lot more.

First, tell me if you still believe the Angeles City women are worse looking then the ones in Manila. Let me know guys how well I did.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing your pics Goodtimes2, all of your pics are not boring and the girls with nice body too. Please keep them coming. Good Job! Oh, I will be in AC early Jan 2007. I am sure to do my share to post some pics when I am done with my trip too.

Regards,

Its My Life

Pretty good for only the second post!

You didn't give us names, but I loved the smile on Ms. 486. Ms. 586 is quite nice.

There is one girl who is either yawning or moaning. Her mouth is wide open.

Two questions
1) Who took the pictures?
2) What hotel are you in?

Thanks for the pics. X

[QUOTE=Goodtimes2]Ok guys, I will keep the pictures coming if you tell me how well I did... Rate the chicks. If I hear some positive feedback, I will post a lot more.

First, tell me if you still believe the Angeles City women are worse looking then the ones in Manila. Let me know guys how well I did.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Aussie Mate]New to the board here, I will be traveling to AC for the first time in Nov. and staying at the Wild Orchid.[/QUOTE]
Welcome to ISG! The Wild Orchid is probably the best hotel in AC. Why not check it out for yourself: [url]www.wildorchidresort.com[/url]
As for the typhoon, things are getting back to normal according to my gf. AC was not hit as hard as Manila. But she also mentioned that there is another typhoon on it's way towards Luzon.

[QUOTE=Goodtimes2]Ok guys, I will keep the pictures coming if you tell me how well I did... Rate the chicks. If I hear some positive feedback, I will post a lot more.

First, tell me if you still believe the Angeles City women are worse looking then the ones in Manila. Let me know guys how well I did.[/QUOTE]Hmm, second to last girl has been around awhile dating back to around 2001 at Treasure Island among others. Very trippy girl at times.

[QUOTE=Goodtimes2]Ok guys, I will keep the pictures coming if you tell me how well I did... Rate the chicks. If I hear some positive feedback, I will post a lot more.

First, tell me if you still believe the Angeles City women are worse looking then the ones in Manila. Let me know guys how well I did.[/QUOTE]


Good job GT2,

I always wonder after I have boned some girl on a couch how many times that had been done before me. Never seems to enter the mind leading up to the event, but after I always seem to wonder. I know they clean and change the beds, but what about the couch and other furniture?

In any case I will remember your pics if I am ever in that hotel and see that furniture.

Nice girls for any location and very good for AC. There are definitely hot girls in AC, as you proved in your pictures. Some girls are a little timid to go to Manila or they know people in Manila and do not want to take the chance that family or friends will discover their secret.

I also took the opportunity to lighten up some of the darker photos for you. I hope you were not keeping them in the dark on purpose, if so let me know and I will delete. There are a few free program out there that you can use to do this with. I use Irfan. Do a search and you will easily find a link to download the software. If not PM me and I will give you the link if you are interested. You're doing a great job. Nice to see someone come in blazing away with pics and contributing


FF

[QUOTE=X Man]Pretty good for only the second post!

You didn't give us names, but I loved the smile on Ms. 486. Ms. 586 is quite nice.

There is one girl who is either yawning or moaning. Her mouth is wide open.

Two questions
1) Who took the pictures?
2) What hotel are you in?

Thanks for the pics. X[/QUOTE]Some of the pictures are captures from a video I made. The video was made with a Sony HC-90 camcorder on a tripod. There is a photo button on the camera in which you can get good screen captures.

Unfortunately, Sony came out with a newer and better camcorder right after I bought this one. It still takes good pictures, but I would prefer the newer model. They have a high definition hard drive cam corder that I am eyeing, but I will wait until they improve upon the model before I pick it up.

They all can be found on Fields in one of the bars. Just go down the row and choose wisely. I stayed at the Royal Amsterdam.

Yes you did good!. It looks like your room was at the Wild Orchid Resort.
What time of year did you go? It seems that the quality of the women can be seasonal.
Please post more photos at will, perhaps in the photo gallery.

Excelsior!

Ok, now that is the spirit I like to see. There are so many message boards I visit on Angeles City where I see some bad attitudes. Some of the things I see are the following. The women are bad looking. The women have bad attitudes. The food was shit.complain, complain, complain. However, I have never had a bad time in AC. In fact, I love it so much its hard to go to another destination when I remember all the good times that I had in this little village. Lots of partying, lots of sex. Its almost like I was back in college and I went to spring break in Florida.

As you can tell, I am a big fan of this destination. I have been on other message boards where I have been "dressed down" for my enthusiasm about the place. Maybe I am just too addicted to sex to see the downfalls of Angeles City. I hope you all enjoy my pictures. I did learn a lot from my trips to Angeles. Yep. I learned how nice it was to finally be with two women at once and how it changed my thinking when I banged 4 slender good looking women in a whole day. I went away from this place a different man and a new perspective on life.

On a side note, all of the women in these photos are above the age of 18. I did check the identification cards and asked the women directly. I also checked with the "mamasons" at each bar and confirmed their age. I make this disclaimer as I am on an American server and we are still under the Bush administration.

These are some more pics. Sorry, I am only limited to ten pics per post.

These are some more pics. Sorry, I am only limited to ten pics per post.

These are some more pics. Sorry, I am only limited to ten pics per post. xcvylk

These are some more pics. Sorry, I am only limited to ten pics per post

I think I lost track of the pictures now. I think some of these might be duplicates.

These are some more pics. Sorry, I am only limited to ten pics per post.

Here are some more.

These are some more pics. Sorry, I am only limited to ten pics per post.

Thanks Mattrick!

It looks like a great hotel!

Fantastic Job Goodtimes2,

Counting the days to my maiden voyage to AC. Wow, I was under the impression that AC had only the left overs in regards to women. Hats off Mate, your selection is top choice!

[QUOTE=Goodtimes2]Ok, now that is the spirit I like to see. There are so many message boards I visit on Angeles City where I see some bad attitudes. Some of the things I see are the following. The women are bad looking. The women have bad attitudes. The food was shit.complain, complain, complain. However, I have never had a bad time in AC. In fact, I love it so much its hard to go to another destination when I remember all the good times that I had in this little village. [/QUOTE]

Jealousy is never a pretty thing. That is why you have people on some sites, this one as well, who will eventually attack you. They are not mongers as mongers are people like you and me who actually travel to these destinations.

It is best to ignore them and then they go away. They are just starved for attention.

Great pictures. Any report information to go with this? What hotel you were staying at..how was the hotel? The staff? Favorite bar? Did the girls come from mostly one or two bars or from all over?

FF

[QUOTE=Goodtimes2] ... In fact, I love it so much its hard to go to another destination when I remember all the good times that I had in this little village. Lots of partying, lots of sex. As you can tell, I am a big fan of this destination. ... I hope you all enjoy my pictures ... I went away from this place a different man and a new perspective on life.

[/QUOTE]

I think your nickname is program as well!? :) However, I could not agree more with your report about AC. Tx for sharing so many nice pictures with us!

Cheers - Hesekiels

I stay at the Hotel Royal Amsterdam which I feel is an all around good pick. The action is literally right across the street and there is no un-neccasary walking to the action. The link to the Hotel Royal Amsterdam is here. If the link doesnt post (they dont seem to like links on this site), then just type it in on google:

www . hotelroyalamsterdam . com

The jacuzzi suites seem like a nice idea and good for the photographs, but they are very slow to fill and not HOT. They seem more like a warm bath then a real hot hotel-style jacuzzi. They also are not spacious enough to have good sex. I say you can go ahead and do without it.

A good value oriented hotel is the Swiss Chalet, www . swisschaletph . com. Its right near the strip and they still have plenty of rooms under $30 a day. There is a restaurant downstairs and the food isnt bad.

My advice on the hotels is to go with the best deal you can find. Pools, jacuzzis, food, etc. None of that really matters. All you need is a comfortable bed and private space. The real reason you are there is to get laid. The next time I go I am just going to get a cheap room at either the Amsterdam or Chalet and do my business.

Angeles City is the easiest mongering spot out of all the destinations. It is the ultimate no-brainer. All you do is get a flight from travelocity or your favorite on-line site, make a reservation at a hotel (you can find all of them on google by the way), have the hotel driver meet you at the airport, get to the hotel and then finding the women is the easiest part. Go to the bars and find what you want. There are different variations of women at each of the bars and if you dont like what you see then I recommend going to the next one. Dont waste time or cash at a place where you dont like the women.

My biggest enemy when I go is TIME. Once I barfine a lady, then I am stuck with her for a few hours or sometimes all night. This isnt a bad thing, however, its best to find the best looking and most eager one you can get. If you have a bad vibe about one, then move on quick.

When the driver delivers me to the hotel, I dont waste any time unpacking, showering or eating. The bags go into the closet and then I am off within minutes after getting to the hotel. Then I make a quick pick and get laid within a half hour of arriving at the hotel. Actually, sometimes its been less then 15 minutes. On the last few days of my trip, I try to barfine as many as possible. I tell each of the women that I have a few days left and only desire short time. In fact, when they call to tell me the driver is downstairs for me to go to the airport, Im usually still pounding some chick. You have to understand that I have a job back in the states and once I am back there then Im not sure when I will get back to Angeles. So I try to maximize.

As for the bars, I jump from place to place until I find what I like. All you have to do is start from one end of Fields and keep going into places rapid fire.

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A few more.

I have no lack of pictures folks ;)

Here is my last batch of pics. I have lots of film on the camcorder though.

I wanted to make one suggestion for those guys that like to take pictures like me. There is some talk about the US border patrol checking laptops. What do you say to some guy if he sees naked ladies on your laptop? They may be over 18, but you cant really prove that. You dont have her birth certificate on you.

I recommend uploading all pictures to a website like Yahoo photos or shutterfly. As for videos...try to burn it to a DVD and throw it in with a bunch of audio CDS you have. Dont leave anything on the actual mini-dvs or the laptop. Make it harder for these guys so you dont have to explain to some young customs officer that the women were all above 18. Will they believe you and let you go? Will they take you into the little back room for questioning? Will they simply arrest you and let a prosecutor/judge figure out if the women are above 18?

I would like to reiterate that all the women in mypictures are above 18 here. I did check ID and asked questions.

The following pictures should demonstrate the more cultural aspects and the sites to see in the Philippines. A lot of people say that there isnt much to do in Angeles City, but somehow I found a lot of things to do. All you have to do is walk around and these things just jump out at you. Some people have told me that I truly dont know this town, but as these pictures demonstrate, I found my way around quite well and I think I was able to touch on all the different aspects.

I used MediaPlayer Classic to save these images. Its a free program and you can find it through Google. Just type in MovePlayer Classic.

Just a few more pics of the sites in Angeles.

I posted on another forum asking if anyone knew of a hotel near a bar, and here is what Frequent Flier wrote.

"Members are here to share information, this is not a travel agency nor is anyone here at someones beckon call, which is why you have no responses."

So I am very surprised that he is now asking about a hotel! Just making a point, that's all. We're all here to have fun, right?

[QUOTE=Frequent Flier]What hotel you were staying at..how was the hotel? The staff? Favorite bar? Did the girls come from mostly one or two bars or from all over?

FF[/QUOTE]

Great pics man, where did you stay, it looks damn comfy.

[QUOTE=Goodtimes2]These are some more pics. Sorry, I am only limited to ten pics per post.[/QUOTE]

Goodtimes2 has really brightened the AC thread.

Beautiful ladies and superb photography.

Thanks GT2

ES

Hi AC-people,

First of all, thanks for all of your incredibly insightful reports. I'm an American living/working in Japan, and was suddenly given next week off, so after researching this board, I think I'll head down to AC for the first time instead of going back to Pattaya again. I'm going to stay at the Central Park, I believe, and I've got enough intel from the boards to handle it solo, but is there anyone out there who wouldn't mind meeting up for a drink or two while I'm there?

Please post or PM your response. Please also stay tuned, as I will submit a detailed-as-I-can report when I get back.

Thanks,

Crazy Ami

Goodtimes2,

Nice pics man. I can’t believe I know some of these girls. Damn small world.

DSC00538.jpg This girl’s name is Angel and she is from Leyte. She started working at Bananits in Angeles City last year when she was under age (17, but she was 18 when the photo was taken) along with many other underage girls in Bananits hence the cops closed it down and it has now reopened as Python with a new owner.

I never bar fined Angel but she was seeing a young friend of mine while I was there and she gave me a lot of headaches making trouble between me and my friend and the girls I was bar fining. She is just trouble on legs and I recommend everyone stay away from her. What was your experience with her? Did she put you threw shit at every opportunity? Let me say for the record, Angel IS over 18 now and has been for some time.

[QUOTE=Blastoff]Goodtimes2,

Nice pics man. I can’t believe I know some of these girls. Damn small world.

DSC00538.jpg This girl’s name is Angel and she is from Leyte. She started working at Bananits in Angeles City last year when she was under age (17) along with many other underage girls in Bananits hence the cops closed it down and it has now reopened as Python with a new owner.

I never bar fined Angel but she was seeing a young friend of mine while I was there and she gave me a lot of headaches making trouble between me and my friend and the girls I was bar fining. She is just trouble on legs and I recommend everyone stay away from her. What was your experience with her? Did she put you threw shit at every opportunity? Let me say for the record, Angel IS over 18 now and has been for some time.[/QUOTE]When I barfined her, she had just turned 18.

[QUOTE=Crazy Ami]Hi AC-people,

First of all, thanks for all of your incredibly insightful reports. I'm an American living/working in Japan, and was suddenly given next week off, so after researching this board, I think I'll head down to AC for the first time instead of going back to Pattaya again. I'm going to stay at the Central Park, I believe, and I've got enough intel from the boards to handle it solo, but is there anyone out there who wouldn't mind meeting up for a drink or two while I'm there?

Please post or PM your response. Please also stay tuned, as I will submit a detailed-as-I-can report when I get back.

Thanks,

Crazy Ami[/QUOTE]Crazy Ami,

Pattaya is a lot fancier then Angeles. You have a beach in Pattaya where as you dont have any fancy sites in Angeles. The women tend to be skinnier and more slender in Pattaya. There are fancier hotels in Thailand and better food too.

I would go to Angeles expecting nothing more then getting sex on the cheap. Expect a dirty polluted third-world type atmosphere. Dont expect a fancy environment with lots of bells and whistles. For myself, getting laid on the cheap is all I need to be satisfied with a destination. The women in Angeles are very accomodating and friendly.

I wouldnt count on wild threesomes or getting extra things like anal sex. The women here tend to shy away from threesomes and anal sex. However, if you look around hard enough, then you will find a quality threesome and someone willing to do anal sex.

For myself, a quality threesome is like the ones you might see in a porn video. You have to ask carefully what the woman is into. If you just barfine two women at random and expect a porn quality threesome you might just get one lady hiding under a blanket while the other lady gives you mediocre service.

The bottomline is to expect willing and able ladies, however, dont count on the atmosphere to be as clean or fancy like in Thailand.

[QUOTE=GoodTimes2]When I barfined her, she had just turned 18.[/QUOTE]


Which bar does she work in now? Did she do a runner on you like she usually does after sex or did she stay all night? I am curious to see if she is still as crazy as before.

Thanks for the info.

An earlier comment was made about how Angeles was nothing but a place of old bars and very experienced girls which I think your photos (Goodtime) shows is not true. Except DSC00510, Janice, would qualify as a very experienced girl since she started at Treasure Island around 2000. Still your photos show that most do not fall into that category.

You wrote it, can't you remember, or are you so much more mature than me your memory is failing you? You keep going on about my immaturity, if you are an example of maturity, I think I prefer to be labeled a child.

If you call that help answering the question, I would prefer you more as an enemy than a friend. You were bashing me for not properly looking back in the archives, and then you misquote my question. It was not "Where is AC". Scroll down for a refresher old man.

I was born in a third world country. Leave your preconceptions at the door.

[QUOTE=X Man]Oh, have I been accused of "name calling"? What name was it? Can you tell me? The "quote" someone sent was editted, which indicates I broke protocol. I'm have mixed feelings about moderators, but over time I can see they are necessary. But does anyone remember the "name calling"?

The quote also didn't include the part where I helped the poster find the question that was being posed. If I'm not mistaken, the question was, "Where is AC?".

Take your camera when you finally break open your piggy bank and buy a ticket to a 3rd world country.

X[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Tbm Fan]An earlier comment was made about how Angeles was nothing but a place of old bars and very experienced girls which I think your photos (Goodtime) shows is not true. Except DSC00510, Janice, would qualify as a very experienced girl since she started at Treasure Island around 2000. Still your photos show that most do not fall into that category.[/QUOTE]I dont know why a lot of guys come away from Angeles with a bad taste in their mouth. Maybe its the poverty and pollution...maybe its that there is nothing else to do there but have sex.

Well, whatever the reason, you get laid. I know that there are no art museums or beaches in Angeles. When getting laid, there is never a free lunch. You have to put up with something. So in Angeles, you have to put up with the poverty and pollution. However, the hotels are reasonably nice for a third world country. Since most of my time is spent on business at the hotel, I spend little time touring around the tin shanties.

My memories of Angeles are very positive. My only regret is that I didnt spend more time there. One time I went for two weeks straight and it was simply a great time. Getting laid everyday and night on demand. A guy cannot ask for more.

[QUOTE=GoodTimes2]Crazy Ami,

Pattaya is a lot fancier then Angeles. You have a beach in Pattaya where as you dont have any fancy sites in Angeles. The women tend to be skinnier and more slender in Pattaya. There are fancier hotels in Thailand and better food too.

I would go to Angeles expecting nothing more then getting sex on the cheap. Expect a dirty polluted third-world type atmosphere. Dont expect a fancy environment with lots of bells and whistles. For myself, getting laid on the cheap is all I need to be satisfied with a destination. The women in Angeles are very accomodating and friendly.

I wouldnt count on wild threesomes or getting extra things like anal sex. The women here tend to shy away from threesomes and anal sex. However, if you look around hard enough, then you will find a quality threesome and someone willing to do anal sex.

For myself, a quality threesome is like the ones you might see in a porn video. You have to ask carefully what the woman is into. If you just barfine two women at random and expect a porn quality threesome you might just get one lady hiding under a blanket while the other lady gives you mediocre service.

The bottomline is to expect willing and able ladies, however, dont count on the atmosphere to be as clean or fancy like in Thailand.[/QUOTE]Good Times,

Thanks for the warning. I've pretty much come to realize that from reading the forum itself, and that's okay with me. I've been other places much dirtier and less tourist friendly than Thailand in Central/South America, and that doesn't bother me. The only reason I was thinking about returning to Pattaya was that I had been there before, and I knew my way around. After reading this board, though, as well as other AC tourism sites 'round the Net, I think AC is the place for me this time around. After all, I live in Japan, where the word "cheap" does not exist.

So I should be there either next Saturday, Sunday or Monday (depending on how my flight turns out). And now to go convince the Japanese girlfriend it's just a 'business trip.' Well, it is, just not the kind of business she'd normally think about!

Crazy Ami

[QUOTE=Crazy Ami]Hi AC-people,

but is there anyone out there who wouldn't mind meeting up for a drink or two while I'm there?

C.A.

I'm in the same boat as you. I'm trying out AC for the first time in about 3 weeks. It is too bad I can't meet up with you. I think 2 newbies would be fun. I've been to Pattaya many times and think it is time to try AC. I'll be waiting for your report. BTW, I'm going to Pattaya, AC then BKK so if anyone wants to meet up, pm me. Thanks.

Egg

Because if his manner, I suggested this person might be under age. That wasn't name calling, it was what I believed then and I believe now.

Also, I do not recall bashing anyone for not going into the archives. I'm pretty sure that was someone else. Either my memory is as bad as he says, or he is making things up in a zealous desire to attack me.

I have no intention of "scrolling down" for a refresher. I'd rather spend my time contributing to the list than bickering. I would suggest that if this person has nothing to contribute, at least ask some questions.

This is my last post on this matter.

X

[QUOTE=Mak Daddy]You wrote it, can't you remember, or are you so much more mature than me your memory is failing you? You keep going on about my immaturity, if you are an example of maturity, I think I prefer to be labeled a child.

If you call that help answering the question, I would prefer you more as an enemy than a friend. You were bashing me for not properly looking back in the archives, and then you misquote my question. It was not "Where is AC". Scroll down for a refresher old man.

I was born in a third world country. Leave your preconceptions at the door.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the info and URL for Orchid. I booked a "balcony" room. The price wasn't clear from the web site. They send me an email and said it would be $79 a night.

First, that's more than I want to spend. Second, it always bugs me when they give me a quote in dollars. I don't live in the US and would prefer a quote in pesos.

Goodtimes has some excellent advice about hotels. I may go with that but I really like to have a pool.

Last time in AC I used the America Hotel. It's quite a long walk (or a short trike ride) from the action. The rooms in front are very noisy. The best rooms are in back and have balconys that look over the pool. On a couple of occasions there were women swimming in the pool nude or just in their underwear at 2 / 3 am with their dates.

It looks like the Clarkton also has a new annex which will open this month. Has anyone been by there lately? Rooms are P 1350, but it doesn't say if that includes the new rooms. If I'm not mistaken Clarkton is even further away than American Hotel...several kilometers from the action.

[url]http://www.clarkton.com/[/url]

X

I would guess that the Clarkton is about maybe 3 k's from Checkpoint as I have walked the distance in 20 minutes. Used to stay there all the time in the 90's but it is too far from the action. Always had to grab a crowded jeepney up during the early evening hours and ended up being too much trouble to go back and forth in a day.

Moved to the Hana which is a short 10 minute walk up to Roadhouse for me so I could skip the jeepneys. A new problem with SM opening in the bigger traffic jams at Checkpoint which stop cars dead in the road heading up. So in reality I get there faster on foot by a mile many times at 6:30 pm.

This coming trip will be spent at the newer Perimeter Hotel back behind and above Emotions. No pool but I am rarely in a pool nowadays or nights. If I need one then a short walk to Sunset Gardens will do the trick. This location will also knock 1 minute off my walk up to Roadhouse. I am not a big fan of staying in the middle of things especially since there is a lot more afternoon bars around the Petron area. This hotel puts me in the middle of the whole place so I can walk to my afternoon barhops. This hotel has about 10 rooms total from standard to deluxe to jaccuzi. Good comments from friends. Since the bars below and in front close by midnight and open around 11 am noise isn't an issue if it is anyway.

Orchid at $79 a night. Hell I wouldn't pay $100 a night in Hawaii so why would I do that in Angeles. I've been to Maui and Angeles is no Maui or anything close.

[QUOTE=GoodTimes2]I dont know why a lot of guys come away from Angeles with a bad taste in their mouth. Maybe its the poverty and pollution...maybe its that there is nothing else to do there but have sex.

Well, whatever the reason, you get laid. I know that there are no art museums or beaches in Angeles. When getting laid, there is never a free lunch. You have to put up with something. So in Angeles, you have to put up with the poverty and pollution. However, the hotels are reasonably nice for a third world country. Since most of my time is spent on business at the hotel, I spend little time touring around the tin shanties.

My memories of Angeles are very positive. My only regret is that I didnt spend more time there. One time I went for two weeks straight and it was simply a great time. Getting laid everyday and night on demand. A guy cannot ask for more.[/QUOTE]

Goodtimes2,

I totally agree with you.

I have been going to AC since 1985 and I have NEVER had a bad time, not even once. People think there is nothing to do? You must be joking. There are many fine restaurants, shopping malls, the Clark duty free areas, helicopter and small plane flights over Mt. Pinatubo, bush walks, trial bike riding, and so many things other than sex to do there if you just get out of Fields Avenue.

[QUOTE=X Man]Thanks for the info and URL for Orchid. I booked a "balcony" room. The price wasn't clear from the web site. They send me an email and said it would be $79 a night.

First, that's more than I want to spend. Second, it always bugs me when they give me a quote in dollars. I don't live in the US and would prefer a quote in pesos.

Goodtimes has some excellent advice about hotels. I may go with that but I really like to have a pool.

Last time in AC I used the America Hotel. It's quite a long walk (or a short trike ride) from the action. The rooms in front are very noisy. The best rooms are in back and have balconys that look over the pool. On a couple of occasions there were women swimming in the pool nude or just in their underwear at 2 / 3 am with their dates.

It looks like the Clarkton also has a new annex which will open this month. Has anyone been by there lately? Rooms are P 1350, but it doesn't say if that includes the new rooms. If I'm not mistaken Clarkton is even further away than American Hotel...several kilometers from the action.

[url]http://www.clarkton.com/[/url]

X[/QUOTE]

X man,

The Clarkton is past Honey Ko’s Bar away from the main action and has its own bar with girls connected to it. It is a big low-rise hotel mainly aimed at European tourists. It is may be 5 to 8 minutes trike ride to the centre of the action near Kokamo’s Restaurant but it has many small bars around it in walking distance and has a HUGE pool and is very girl friendly and the restaurant is great. I was there earlier this year.

Personally, I enjoy moving from hotel to hotel every few days and trying different experiences as I travel light with only one backpack. I also always hire a small motorbike when I am in AC as this solves many problems and confrontations and can get me to where I want to go in seconds. I hit far more places in one night this way. The old snatch and grab pussy trick lol.

I will be in the Philippines this Saturday.

Enjoy

Seaair has just leased 2 Airbuses from Tiger Airways and will be flying Clark-Cebu and Clark -Davao soon.No need to go to Manila anymore If you want to head down to Cebu or Davao.It will allow you guys to monger straight from AC to mongering further south,Cheers

[QUOTE=kbilly1690]I posted on another forum asking if anyone knew of a hotel near a bar, and here is what Frequent Flier wrote.

"Members are here to share information, this is not a travel agency nor is anyone here at someones beckon call, which is why you have no responses."

So I am very surprised that he is now asking about a hotel! Just making a point, that's all. We're all here to have fun, right?[/QUOTE]

I know angels city very well. I was asking so that the reporter could provide more information for members who will surely read and want to know the answer to that particular question, hopefully we will not get questions asking over and over what hotel should someone stay in. If everyone who wanted to know this just asked with out reading the forum, then half of the entries here would be just that and the forum would lose it's usefulness and its appeal.

I hope you now understand why I asked for the member who wrote the report to give more detail. If I hurt your feeling it was not meant to be. You didn't merely ask about a hotel close to a bar, you actually had asked a question in the Quezon City section about hotels close to LA cafe, which is frequently wrote about in the Makati section and the Manila section. My prodding for more information resulted in Jackson recommending this reporters report for "Reports of Distinction" Something I will be doing shortly. All who are thinking about visiting somewhere should look in that particular section of any destination to gain a good understanding of the place and to answer questions they may have.

As to my personal preference for Hotels in Angeles City I always try to stay at the Oasis Hotel in Angles City as I prefer to be far from the action and noise except when I am ready to enter the lions den. The Oasis has a nice pool and good cleaning service. [url]http://www.travelmart.net/philippinespampanga/oasis-hotel/[/url]

If they are booked then I stay at the Holiday Inn on Clark Base as I can use my Platinum status with the Holiday Inn to get upgraded to a larger room. I also do this in Makati at the New World Renaissance Hotel with my Marriott Platinum Premier points to get upgrades to the executive level where you can eat for free during the day and night and enjoy free cocktail for a few hours in the afternoon

Can we get back to the real reason that we all come here now? Have you also read about the no cross talk policy? I just broke it in the hopes that other will RTFF.

FF

You wrote: "Have a thick skin....", but twice you complain about what I said about you in a PM. Perhaps you are the one who needs the thick skin. If you had replied to my PMs we could have left everyone else out of it.

Regarding maturity, usually those who complain the most about others not having it, are the ones who have the least of it when it really matters.

Glad to hear you are done.

[QUOTE=X Man]I'd rather spend my time contributing to the list than bickering. I would suggest that if this person has nothing to contribute, at least ask some questions.

This is my last post on this matter.

X[/QUOTE]

[b]Angeles Newbie Report[/b]

Thanks for all the information on this board for my enjoyment sitting in my office bored and help for my virgin tip to Angeles. I hope this report can be some contribution to the board.

I was in Korea on a business trip and was able to get away for a weekend somewhere. I thought about Bangkok but the travel time and the convenience of the flight availability swayed my choice to Angeles. Asiana Airline has a flight leaving Friday night arriving in Clark Field at 11:30PM and departing on Monday morning 1:00AM arriving in Korea at 6AM. I could be in the office on Monday morning.

[b]Friday Night[/b]

Arriving in Clark airport, the currency exchange booth was closed! I asked one of the immigration officers if they knew a place I can exchange some money for taxi. He says no and offered to exchange $20. Good enough for me and thank you, Not having a hotel reservation I ask the taxi driver to go to Wild Orchid (remembering the name and good review by fellow WSGers.). Taxi fare was 200P and it took about 15-20min to the hotel. As the taxi drove into the Field Ave., I remembered one of the reports describing Angeles "dirthole". It sure is a dirthole and everything I expected and I am already starting to like this place.

[b]Hotel[/b]

Wild Orchid girl says they have one room available and I am lucky to get a room. I am thinking "yeah, sure". The room is $69USD per night plus tax. I check the room out and it was clean, had a large bed and above average bathroom. Good enough for me and I take the room. The hotel also has a very nice swimming pool which I thought would be perfect bringing girls.

Drop my bag and on the Field Ave by 12:30. Again, searching names of the bars from this board from my memory, I find Blue Nile and get my first San Miguel at 12:40. My hunting has started. But then again, who is hunting?? I didn't think girls were aggressive until one of the Tequila girls made the first move and starting to ask me "take me, take me". She definetely met my standard but I buy her a drink, a little rubbing (initiated by the girl) and I politely decline her offer as it is my duty to check out at least couple of bars before the prey is claimed. Leaving BN, I think I stopped at Lancelot and one other I don't remember the name. Girls were anywhere between 5-8. I made the final stop at Doll House at about 2:30AM after 5-6 beers and a shot of Tequila. The first girl I spot (in hindsight, I think I was spotted by her first) comes sit with me and I am already thinking about how she was going to make me real happy. Mama San comes and tells me she is a spotlight girl and the BF is 3000P. A quick conversion in the head and it comes out to 60USD and remembered another report here says DH has this BF levels. Knowing I am not being cheated. I pay the BF and back to the hotel.

I felt that Philipinas are very GFE and very considerate of customers needs except BJ, greek and other extra services. I am not into any of this (except BJ) so didn't have any problem but BJ skill and enthusiasm were definetely lacking. After a good hour of GFE activities, we indulge in act of final pleasure. Multiple positions climaxing in doggy with my d-ck still hard after taking a Viagra.

Viagra: There are many guys on the street selling V and C. I tried once before and thought it could be a good recreational drug keeping my c-ck hard for hours. I didn't know if those sold in the street are real but what the hell try one anyways. Now I know they are real (at least the one I bought). We fall asleep with her in my arms. I don't remember last time I had a woman in my arms sleeping and it was such a delight.

[b]SATURDAY[/b]

I wake up at around 8am and see that my girl is still sleeping. I take a shower and I wake her up and she immediately tends to my morning urge without any hesitation. We have breakfast together at the hotel restaurant and starting to realize she wasn't ready to leave me until I tell her. My goal is to have any many girls physically possible and let her go telling her that I want to go play golf and will come back to DH in the evening.

[b]Hotel[/b]

I really thought they were joking when they told me I was lucky to have a room. But they told me that the hotel is fully booked and I have to find another place to stay. They kindly call several places and found a room at Amsterdam on the main road. At $20 a night, it was cheap but the room was very small. I haven't seen other rooms but I don't think I will syat there again at that same room. Lesson learned- advance reservation is required in AC.

[b]Golf[/b]

Golf was my alibi for AC and had to play a round. Couldn't get on Mimosa as it is for members only. Played at Fontana - small 9 hole course. It was hot and very tiring playing 9 hole twice. I say stick to the bar activity.

I had a dinner at the margarita Station. The place wasn't what I imagined from this board. Food was OK and nothing special. I think Kokonutz was better than the "station", both food and the atmosphere.

My first stop was Blue Nile. I find this dancer who had a great body and I wanted to BF her but her friend (who also had a great body) was begging me to take her also. I ask them if they will be together when we "boom-boom" and they said yes. When we returned to my (small) room, The second girl goes for a shower and comes back saying she just started her period. I boom-boom the first girl and kick both of them out the door. We all know that the level of service is often inversely proportional to the appearance. I wasn't going to get pissed off and ruin my fun trip.

I head out again and checked out Lancelot. Much smaller bar but the staff was a lot more fun. I think I had the most fun there and had to agonize over choosing one of 3 dancers who were massaging me, kissing me, etc. I pick the youngest of the 3 (22YO) and head out to the hotel. Her face 7, Body 9, attitude 8. At 5AM, she asks me whether I want her to stay or can leave. She says it is her mother's birthday and will have to leave for Manila in the morning. (I think I heard this before). I was very tired and didn't care either way so I let her go with 300P tip.

[b]SUNDAY[/b]

Waking up, I am already regretting letting her go a few hours before. My plane leaves Clark Field at 1AM (Monday) and have to plan my day carefully.

[b]Hotel[/b]

First I try to extend my stay (needs a room until I leave for the airport at 11PM) but they say they have no room. I walk over to Wild Orchid and they have one room. Back to WO! Walking up and down the Field Ave "sight seeing", I stopped at Doll House Cafe for breakfast. I started talking to the waitress and asked about the rooms at DH. She showed me a couple of rooms and the pool. The room rates start at $90, 100 and 110 but the rooms were very clean and well decorated. It is on a high side but, if one can afford it, definitely worth a try. Pool was small and, if I decide to bring 2-3 girls and other guests had the same idea, it would be too crowded. Maybe it is the best way depending on how communal other people feel.

Not many places opened at 11AM but Doll House was open (they are open 24Hrs). I played pool with several waitresses and dancers. My plan was to BF one to the hotel, quick shopping at the mall, back to hotel. Let her go, visit another playground, hotel, dinner, back to the hotel and off to the airport. Well, it almost worked as planed except sometimes girls aren't what you expected when you hit the bed.

[b]Lessons learned[/b]

I haven't screwed as many girls as I planned arriving in AC. It was part my exhaustion (am I getting old?) and the girls. I just don't think it is possible to sort out just the right girl everytime one BF one. Sometimes you win, sometime you lose. To me the beauty of AC was the loss was not significant and you can get back in the action in less than 5min!. I also enjoyed the attention and all that fun in the bars palying with girls, dancers, waitresses and even mama-san's. Maximizing the numbers like GoodTimes2, you have to be determined, planned AND experienced. I am not exactly an amateur in mongering but I need to have more field experience to accomplish the feat. I'll be back!

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size]

First, let me say that I have been reading this forum for a while and I have gotten some great information on my travels to Asia, Central, and South America. This is my first post and I would like to relay my recent experience in Angeles. I also want to set this up by saying I have been to Angeles probably 8 times over the last several years and it is by far my favorite place to monger, but I usually cannot stay in the place more than a week before hitting a beach in Palawan, Cebu, Boracay, or Thailand as it is extremely boring during the day. For different reasons I found myself there for over two weeks recently, things could have been worse!

I flew Cathay Pacific from LA to Manila via Hong Kong. I went business class on miles as I travel quite a bit in the US for work. Cathay was great, being on the upper deck in the business class seat I got a good 8 hours of sleep before we hit Hong Kong, and after a shower and a few cocktails in the Cathay lounge I jumped on the 90 minute flight to Manila and hit the ground running. At Manila I was met by the taxi service from the Clarkton hotel, went smoothly as the driver's wife was waiting under the appropriate letter in the arrival area. Cost for the taxi was P2500.

Checked into the suite on the top floor of the old building at the Clarkton. Nice big room for P2800, always stay there if I can. I did get a chance to view the new wing and those rooms are nice as well. The larger rooms downstairs are going to be around P3400 and the smaller rooms on top are P2900. I still think the suites (302 and 308) on the top floor poolside of the existing hotel are the best deal in AC. Hotel has good food, service, internet facilities, travel agent, and the mirror club which has several cuties this trip.

By the time I got settle in it was 6pm on a Friday and headed to my favorite bar, Champagne. Always have the hottest girls and they are always in good spirits as the management there is top notch. A few of the mamasans and papasans have moved around since my last trip in January so I was surprised to see my drinking buddy from Brown Sugar now at Champagne. Saw a really cute girl, tiny thing, and decided that she and her bj specialist friend would be my welcome to AC team. Spent a good deal of money on booze and women there and took the girls home several hours later. They did not dissapoint and actually the smaller one who did not want to give a bj ended up being the ace and she gave a great bj and spent the night as I sent the other one home after she did her specialty. Good opening night.

Next night I picked up my friend at Clark coming in from US and we hit the town around 1am. Found a gem at La Pasha, 18 year old girl from Samar who had only been in town a few weeks. Took her home for several rounds and she was great. Very open to differnet positions and experiences.

Without writing a novel the next two weeks followed a very similar pattern. Out around noon for lunch at the mall, subdelicious, vfw, zapatas, etc. Hit a few of the perimter bars and did a few afternoon sessions. Got a good bj at Niftys although the talent there was average. One afternoon bar that stood out was Stampede at Checkpoint. Nice place to hang out with a nice pool table, cute waitresses, and several cute dancers. Pulled a waitress out of there my second to last day and then her and her friend for my afternoon finale my last day. That night I pulled two more from Classroom 2 at the recommendation of the papasan. One of the girls he said was aka "the machine" and they did not dissapoint.

In general I found my best sessions to be with 24ish girls who had a little more cleavage and new how to give a good bj. I did intermix a few nubile teenagers that were lots of fun, but also lots of work.

On the negative side I did have two runners. One from Neros and one from Angelwitch. I always get agreement up front from the girls as to what is going to happen in the room and how long they will stay. Both these girls lied and left after my first wad. One had an emergency in manila and one wanted to wash her clothes at 3am...I went to Angelwitch to talk to the manager, but he was not around so I dropped it as I got the girl for half price when i won a half price bar fine at the SOB raffle. This was my first SOB and I would strongly recommend going at least once. It was well worth the P550.

Also, I survived the latest typhoon there. One great thing about the Clarkton is that it has a good generator. I know most of the town was powerless, but I really did not feel any inconvenience at the hotel. I actually was by myself that morning and went out to find some company for the afternoon. Pretty crazy going out in a typhoon to get some...Found one by candlelight at neros which has an early 3pm shift and we spent the afternoon and evening in bed watching the storm.

Headed back to Manila on fly the bus P500 to the Swagman where I booked an executive room for P2900. Nice room and met an old girlfriend there before leaving the next morning. Airport transfer is free if you stay at Swagman. Also, flying business class you get to avoid all of the chaos at Manila airport. Lines are small and you get right to the lounge to relax. Economy lines looked to be about two hours long at 6am. Flew Japan airlines home. Nice airline, but not in the same class as Cathay or Singapore. Always get the Japanese food, it rocks.

A few tidbits.

Bring your own condoms, lube, and some immodium. You will use them.

Don’t pack a lot of clothes, laundry is very cheap in the Phil.

Always have small bills for the trike (p70 from Clarkton to fields) and for tips

Don’t book a trip far in advance on one of the discount airlines (tiger or air asia) out of Clark. I booked a trip to Bangkok for a week in Pattaya on air asia before I left the US and was due to go just after the military coup. Decided against it and lost my money. It is better to pay a little more at the last minute. Also, my last trip in January I bought some clothes in Thailand and tiger charged me $80 extra on my return for excess baggage. It is really convenient to fly out of Clark, but there are hassles.

Some intel.

Good scene at the SM Clark mall. At least one girl is working the mall during the day. I was stalked twice, she was pretty average so I did not connect.

Nice place to play pool and hang out at the Perimeter Bars is Limited Edition sports bar, opens at noon and has a few cuties

On fields I like to go to the Welcome Inn after lunch as they have a nice pool table as well. Talent usually average.

Blue Nile has way to many girls and they are all usually too far away to see. Good to get a table near the stairs and see them as they are walking to the stage. Definitely some gems there.

Flamingo in the Orchid Inn is a cool place to hang out early evening as the music is not too loud and the waitress are very friendly. Good pool table and scene. Dancers are pretty average.

Agaysa has some unbelievably beautiful girls, but they definitely cater to the aisan (korean and japanese crowd). Get no love there from the staff and the dancers are always looking at the floor.

New bar, Big Easy, has a good band after 10pm every night and has some good talent.

New bar, Heartbreakers, lots of girls (150+), but talent level is below average.

Classroom 2 plays classic rock music, some nice girls and good papasan.

Lancelot had a lot of cute girls this trip.

Got lucky and was told I was first barfine for about 4 or 5 of my girls. They were either new in town or just back from the provinces after and extended absence. Great gfe as they are usually really malibog once you get them going. Ask the mamasan for these kinds of girls and you will not be disappointed.

Like to get a jug of ice tea and watch the sunset at Kokomos on the railing. Get to see the girls heading to work and the city turn neon.

Got a nice legitimate massage in my room at the Clarkton from the beauty shop for P400. Also, got a massage from a girl at mirrors in the hotel. I barfined her for p1200 and this gave me a 2plus hour massage with a happy ending. Too tired that night for the deed.

The bar at the Clarkton, Mirrors, nice pool table and crowd usually play there at night. A mellow alternative to fields.

That is it. Sorry no pictures as I stop taking them my first trip.

Thanks for the info. I've been busy searching the web sites of Cebu Pacific and Philppine Airlines. I prefer CP and it seems their prices are signifacantly lower. I hate those inflight games though.

Unfortunately, I had a Manila hotel staff snag my heart and will have to go there. Dang.

I always manage to squeeze too much into a short vacation, and this time I'm bound and determined to squeeze too much into a fairly long vacation.

A few days in AC before I show up in MLA, then an accompanied flight to Visayans (Bohol probably). Christmas on the beach and then send her back to Manila. A few days in Cebu and then to Mindanao. Probably Davao.... Love the place. I especailly want to visit GE who lives in a real dump. With the money he saves on rent, he splurges on women and wine...not necessarily in that order.

Then back to Manila for a couple days before the long, lonely flight back to X-ville.

I'll send you a text CL....hope we can cross paths this time.

X


[QUOTE=Cebu Local]Seaair has just leased 2 Airbuses from Tiger Airways and will be flying Clark-Cebu and Clark -Davao soon.No need to go to Manila anymore If you want to head down to Cebu or Davao.It will allow you guys to monger straight from AC to mongering further south,Cheers[/QUOTE]

Wow. Pitender, that was great post. Thanks a lot. Glad to hear that you had a lot of fun.

@all,

How much is the price difference between fields and perimeter bars concerning drinks, ladies drinks and barfine? Perimeter should be cheaper, but why is everybody going to fields?? (me=AC Noob)

Second question: You guys really eat in the bars without having stomach ache or something similar?

This thread is really hoppin' thanks to the two newbie reports and Goodtimes photos. Thanks for posting some great info/photos.

[QUOTE=Frequent Flier]Have you also read about the no cross talk policy? I just broke it in the hopes that other will RTFF.[/QUOTE]
The "No crosstalk" rule has been lifted (thank you Jackson)so it is business as usual. Lets try to keep it that way.

[QUOTE=X Man] I hate those inflight games though[/QUOTE]
Hey X Man, those games might be silly but it gives you the chance to flirt with the flight attendants if you sit near the front of the plane!

[QUOTE=Mattrick]
The "No crosstalk" rule has been lifted (thank you Jackson)so it is business as usual. Lets try to keep it that way.[/QUOTE]

As far as I know it was still in effect when I wrote the post. I noticed after that it had been droped, but who cares. I still stand by the point of my post...what is business as usual? I guess you are deciding that?

Tahoe - great post about your virgin Angeles trip. Yours sounds a lot like my last trip - went to alot of the same bars you mentioned. Blue Nile has some great looking girls & a huge selection, but some of the best looking ones seem to be runners or scammers from my experience. Lancelot was one of my favorites - smaller selection, but some great looking girls and generally friendlier atmosphere. Barfined a couple girls there, both were very good experience - one with very big firm breasts (kinda quiet, but very affectionate & fun) & the other was a really hot waitress with very pretty face & petite sexy body. I liked Dollhouse also, pretty good selection of girls there - barfined one little cutie there who was lots of fun. Thanks for your report - it brings back some great memories.

[QUOTE=Tahoe][b]Angeles Newbie Report[/b]

Thanks for all the information on this board for my enjoyment sitting in my office bored and help for my virgin tip to Angeles. I hope this report can be some contribution to the board.

I was in Korea on a business trip and was able to get away for a weekend somewhere. I thought about Bangkok but the travel time and the convenience of the flight availability swayed my choice to Angeles. Asiana Airline has a flight leaving Friday night arriving in Clark Field at 11:30PM and departing on Monday morning 1:00AM arriving in Korea at 6AM. I could be in the office on Monday morning.

[b]Friday Night[/b]

Arriving in Clark airport, the currency exchange booth was closed! I asked one of the immigration officers if they knew a place I can exchange some money for taxi. He says no and offered to exchange $20. Good enough for me and thank you, Not having a hotel reservation I ask the taxi driver to go to Wild Orchid (remembering the name and good review by fellow WSGers.). Taxi fare was 200P and it took about 15-20min to the hotel. As the taxi drove into the Field Ave., I remembered one of the reports describing Angeles "dirthole". It sure is a dirthole and everything I expected and I am already starting to like this place.

[b]Hotel[/b]

Wild Orchid girl says they have one room available and I am lucky to get a room. I am thinking "yeah, sure". The room is $69USD per night plus tax. I check the room out and it was clean, had a large bed and above average bathroom. Good enough for me and I take the room. The hotel also has a very nice swimming pool which I thought would be perfect bringing girls.

Drop my bag and on the Field Ave by 12:30. Again, searching names of the bars from this board from my memory, I find Blue Nile and get my first San Miguel at 12:40. My hunting has started. But then again, who is hunting?? I didn't think girls were aggressive until one of the Tequila girls made the first move and starting to ask me "take me, take me". She definetely met my standard but I buy her a drink, a little rubbing (initiated by the girl) and I politely decline her offer as it is my duty to check out at least couple of bars before the prey is claimed. Leaving BN, I think I stopped at Lancelot and one other I don't remember the name. Girls were anywhere between 5-8. I made the final stop at Doll House at about 2:30AM after 5-6 beers and a shot of Tequila. The first girl I spot (in hindsight, I think I was spotted by her first) comes sit with me and I am already thinking about how she was going to make me real happy. Mama San comes and tells me she is a spotlight girl and the BF is 3000P. A quick conversion in the head and it comes out to 60USD and remembered another report here says DH has this BF levels. Knowing I am not being cheated. I pay the BF and back to the hotel.

I felt that Philipinas are very GFE and very considerate of customers needs except BJ, greek and other extra services. I am not into any of this (except BJ) so didn't have any problem but BJ skill and enthusiasm were definetely lacking. After a good hour of GFE activities, we indulge in act of final pleasure. Multiple positions climaxing in doggy with my d-ck still hard after taking a Viagra.

Viagra: There are many guys on the street selling V and C. I tried once before and thought it could be a good recreational drug keeping my c-ck hard for hours. I didn't know if those sold in the street are real but what the hell try one anyways. Now I know they are real (at least the one I bought). We fall asleep with her in my arms. I don't remember last time I had a woman in my arms sleeping and it was such a delight.

[b]SATURDAY[/b]

I wake up at around 8am and see that my girl is still sleeping. I take a shower and I wake her up and she immediately tends to my morning urge without any hesitation. We have breakfast together at the hotel restaurant and starting to realize she wasn't ready to leave me until I tell her. My goal is to have any many girls physically possible and let her go telling her that I want to go play golf and will come back to DH in the evening.

[b]Hotel[/b]

I really thought they were joking when they told me I was lucky to have a room. But they told me that the hotel is fully booked and I have to find another place to stay. They kindly call several places and found a room at Amsterdam on the main road. At $20 a night, it was cheap but the room was very small. I haven't seen other rooms but I don't think I will syat there again at that same room. Lesson learned- advance reservation is required in AC.

[b]Golf[/b]

Golf was my alibi for AC and had to play a round. Couldn't get on Mimosa as it is for members only. Played at Fontana - small 9 hole course. It was hot and very tiring playing 9 hole twice. I say stick to the bar activity.

I had a dinner at the margarita Station. The place wasn't what I imagined from this board. Food was OK and nothing special. I think Kokonutz was better than the "station", both food and the atmosphere.

My first stop was Blue Nile. I find this dancer who had a great body and I wanted to BF her but her friend (who also had a great body) was begging me to take her also. I ask them if they will be together when we "boom-boom" and they said yes. When we returned to my (small) room, The second girl goes for a shower and comes back saying she just started her period. I boom-boom the first girl and kick both of them out the door. We all know that the level of service is often inversely proportional to the appearance. I wasn't going to get pissed off and ruin my fun trip.

I head out again and checked out Lancelot. Much smaller bar but the staff was a lot more fun. I think I had the most fun there and had to agonize over choosing one of 3 dancers who were massaging me, kissing me, etc. I pick the youngest of the 3 (22YO) and head out to the hotel. Her face 7, Body 9, attitude 8. At 5AM, she asks me whether I want her to stay or can leave. She says it is her mother's birthday and will have to leave for Manila in the morning. (I think I heard this before). I was very tired and didn't care either way so I let her go with 300P tip.

[b]SUNDAY[/b]

Waking up, I am already regretting letting her go a few hours before. My plane leaves Clark Field at 1AM (Monday) and have to plan my day carefully.

[b]Hotel[/b]

First I try to extend my stay (needs a room until I leave for the airport at 11PM) but they say they have no room. I walk over to Wild Orchid and they have one room. Back to WO! Walking up and down the Field Ave "sight seeing", I stopped at Doll House Cafe for breakfast. I started talking to the waitress and asked about the rooms at DH. She showed me a couple of rooms and the pool. The room rates start at $90, 100 and 110 but the rooms were very clean and well decorated. It is on a high side but, if one can afford it, definitely worth a try. Pool was small and, if I decide to bring 2-3 girls and other guests had the same idea, it would be too crowded. Maybe it is the best way depending on how communal other people feel.

Not many places opened at 11AM but Doll House was open (they are open 24Hrs). I played pool with several waitresses and dancers. My plan was to BF one to the hotel, quick shopping at the mall, back to hotel. Let her go, visit another playground, hotel, dinner, back to the hotel and off to the airport. Well, it almost worked as planed except sometimes girls aren't what you expected when you hit the bed.

[b]Lessons learned[/b]

I haven't screwed as many girls as I planned arriving in AC. It was part my exhaustion (am I getting old?) and the girls. I just don't think it is possible to sort out just the right girl everytime one BF one. Sometimes you win, sometime you lose. To me the beauty of AC was the loss was not significant and you can get back in the action in less than 5min!. I also enjoyed the attention and all that fun in the bars palying with girls, dancers, waitresses and even mama-san's. Maximizing the numbers like GoodTimes2, you have to be determined, planned AND experienced. I am not exactly an amateur in mongering but I need to have more field experience to accomplish the feat. I'll be back!

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?]Click Here[/url] for more information.[/blue][/size][/QUOTE]

I'd like to give my recommendation for a good hotel near the bars. With out a doubt, the Jacuzzi Room at The Royal Amsterdam is fantastic. You get a king bed, leather couch and chair and lots of room. It really is a Suite and it only costs $60 USD. I think GoodTimes also had that room as you can see the layout in some of his photos. I also stayed in the $40 room and it was pretty good too. Plenty of space with loveseat, etc. You can't beat it for location as it is right next to Champaign and the main Fields Avenue bars. One final note - my rooms have always been quiet even though it is so close to the action.

I know that many of the mongers want a pool. For me that is not a priority as I seldom go swimming. Hang around the pool - sure! But you can do that anyway without paying for a Wild Orchid-type room. The last time I was in Angeles I brought a date to the Orchid pool for dinner and drinks and it was no problem.

A note about RTFF.

I sometimes get annoyed when mongers ask simple questions that could easily be answered if they had read the last several pages of the Forum. However, sometimes the Search function does not provide much insight. For instance, I wanted to know some recommendations for the Perimeter Bars. By searching the Forum, I was able to find out the Perimeter bars were great, but nothing really specific. Which bars are good, where are they located, etc. I found out more in the recent post (yesterday), than by searching the Forum.

My Two Centavos

Tooch

Tahoe,


Sounds like you had a ball and had a great experience. I have been going to AC since 1985 and was there a few months back and I never hear of this "Spot light girls 3,000 peso bar fine" before. I am not saying it's not true, all I am saying is the 100 times or so I have been in Doll House I hadn't heard of it. If they tried it on my, I would just laugh and swear at them in Tagalog. That usually does the trick and let’s them know you are not a green horn.

I will be there next week and talk to the Mamasan about this new price.

Cheers

Pitender,

Great to read a report form a man that knows what his doing and where he is going. Your experience shows, well done, I enjoyed it. ;)

[QUOTE=Blastoff]I never hear of this "Spot light girls 3,000 peso bar fine" before. [/QUOTE]

I was told the same in DH. But since I wasn't keen on any of them, I didn't confirm with mamasan or so.
Cheers!

[QUOTE=Blastoff]Which bar does she work in now? Did she do a runner on you like she usually does after sex or did she stay all night? I am curious to see if she is still as crazy as before.

Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]I know Angel quite well; she is not as crazy as some might believe. Her sometimes disagreeable demeanor is mostly the result of too many barfines. In coming to A.C. (like many Filipinas), it was her intention to make as much money as possible to send back to the province which she did, but she also confided to me that she had perhaps 900 barfines in a little over a year and had many bad experiences.

She is now back in Leyte and hopes never to return. Personally, I found her very sweet and loving with a great sense of humor and would not classify her as a runner. After hearing about some of her experiences however, I could see why sometimes she would run as some of our mongering brethern are ill tempered and bit distrubed themselves.

[QUOTE=Blastoff]Tahoe,

Sounds like you had a ball and had a great experience. I have been going to AC since 1985 and was there a few months back and I never hear of this "Spot light girls 3,000 peso bar fine" before. I am not saying it's not true, all I am saying is the 100 times or so I have been in Doll House I hadn't heard of it. If they tried it on my, I would just laugh and swear at them in Tagalog. That usually does the trick and let’s them know you are not a green horn.

I will be there next week and talk to the Mamasan about this new price.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Ever since DH opened they have had a two tier structure. Show girls at 3000P and all others at 1200P. The thing is show girls are show girls for just that night and then another group is show girls for the next night. This would always then beg the question about what the girl thinks and how she reacts on a 1200P barfine night when she may have gotten 3000P the night before. Theoretically the 3000P barfine was designed to keep some girls in the bar since it is almost/or is 24hours and the idea being to keep some girls on stage. Whatever, as in the end you can come back the next night to get your desired girl should you want.

One note about the Jacuzzi. Western style Jacuzzis usually are so hot that it takes a while to get into them. The jacuzzi in my room was very warm at its best and cold at its worst. It was also not entirely comfortable for good action. The water did not seem chlorinated like western water sources so Im not sure how clean it actually was. It was good for taking pictures, but I think a guy could do without it.

The best thing about it was the spaciousness. The room was very spacious. I think the $40&under rooms are the best bet here.

[QUOTE=Tooch]I'd like to give my recommendation for a good hotel near the bars. With out a doubt, the Jacuzzi Room at The Royal Amsterdam is fantastic. You get a king bed, leather couch and chair and lots of room. It really is a Suite and it only costs $60 USD. I think GoodTimes also had that room as you can see the layout in some of his photos. I also stayed in the $40 room and it was pretty good too. Plenty of space with loveseat, etc. You can't beat it for location as it is right next to Champaign and the main Fields Avenue bars. One final note - my rooms have always been quiet even though it is so close to the action.

I know that many of the mongers want a pool. For me that is not a priority as I seldom go swimming. Hang around the pool - sure! But you can do that anyway without paying for a Wild Orchid-type room. The last time I was in Angeles I brought a date to the Orchid pool for dinner and drinks and it was no problem.

A note about RTFF.

I sometimes get annoyed when mongers ask simple questions that could easily be answered if they had read the last several pages of the Forum. However, sometimes the Search function does not provide much insight. For instance, I wanted to know some recommendations for the Perimeter Bars. By searching the Forum, I was able to find out the Perimeter bars were great, but nothing really specific. Which bars are good, where are they located, etc. I found out more in the recent post (yesterday), than by searching the Forum.

My Two Centavos

Tooch[/QUOTE]

The 900 barfines in a year might be a little exagerated. That means 3 barfines a night on average.

I do believe that some of the mongers may not treat the women very well. Some mongers take the attitude that the ladies are more like paid servants, so they treat them more like a waiter at a cheap American diner. Actually, even worse then that. When these mongers dont get their way with the ladies, then some get pissed off thinking that their $20 paid for everything all night long. One time I stayed at the old Orchid Inn and I overheard some guy yelling at a woman at the top of his lungs.

While others do not want to tip leaving the woman sometimes with nothing after an entire night of sex. Some mongers even feel joy in that they can get out of the tip at times as evidenced by some posts on these message boards.

The bottomline is that there is a certain way you do business and a certain way you treat ladies. Yelling at a woman, stiffing her out of a tip or treating her in the "paid servant" manner is not very businesslike and certainly no way to treat a lady.

There is also another side of things here that most people dont see. Some of the ladies actually enjoy working in Angeles City as hard as that seems to believe. Here they have an excuse to let loose with foreigners who they will never see again for a good rate of pay. (well not good, but much better then what they usually receive at a job)

In the Western world, a lot of women are having sex in high school with a boyfriend or other guys. Certainly in college, most women really let loose and have sex with a good quantity of guys. Eventually every Western woman simply has their horny period in life where they are having sex.

The woman to find in Angeles, or any destination, are those that want to let loose and where the payment is more like an afterthought then a necessity.

[QUOTE=Docwiltro]I know Angel quite well; she is not as crazy as some might believe. Her sometimes disagreeable demeanor is mostly the result of too many barfines. In coming to A.C. (like many Filipinas), it was her intention to make as much money as possible to send back to the province which she did, but she also confided to me that she had perhaps 900 barfines in a little over a year and had many bad experiences.

She is now back in Leyte and hopes never to return. Personally, I found her very sweet and loving with a great sense of humor and would not classify her as a runner. After hearing about some of her experiences however, I could see why sometimes she would run as some of our mongering brethern are ill tempered and bit distrubed themselves.[/QUOTE]

I didn't know a "spot light" girl rotates daily as tbm Fan confirms. If I knew, I wold have barfined the same girl one more time. I paid 3000P only because I remembered a post here about the higher barfine for the spotlight girls. I would not disrupt the local "pricing structure".

I was told that the spotlight girls have dance routines and the higher barfine is designed to keep the girls at the club. And yes, I had to to spend 3000P on the first night and the first girl. As I said I was pretty green in AC and it took a couple of girls to start blend into AC scene.

One more tip for new visitors to AC departing from Clark Field. My flight was 1AM and I arranged a taxi to pick me up at 10:30PM. You will be fine even if you leave at 11:30PM. That's one more round I missed :-(

Doesn't matter where you go, you will encounter a few bad apples. In AC, I hardly recall a bad experience. Everyone was friendly and hard working to please visitors. Treat them nice and they will return the same.

Peace :-)

[QUOTE=Docwiltro]I know Angel quite well; she is not as crazy as some might believe. Her sometimes disagreeable demeanor is mostly the result of too many barfines. In coming to A.C. (like many Filipinas), it was her intention to make as much money as possible to send back to the province which she did, but she also confided to me that she had perhaps 900 barfines in a little over a year and had many bad experiences.

She is now back in Leyte and hopes never to return. Personally, I found her very sweet and loving with a great sense of humor and would not classify her as a runner. After hearing about some of her experiences however, I could see why sometimes she would run as some of our mongering brethern are ill tempered and bit distrubed themselves.[/QUOTE]
I do not know her personally,But I met a girl whose experienced a guy who had her bark while he was doing her doggy style and another client who forced her to allow him to piss in her mouth.I would understand a girl getting a little crazy after customers like that.My 2 centavos opinion

After one year contemplating about going to the Philippines for the first time while reading all these great reports, I finally decided to buy my plane ticket and go without hesitation. Now here I am, losing sleep and thinking about going back once again while trying to write my first Angeles report.

Round trip from Seoul to Clark on Asiana Airlines costed me $570 us dollars 2 weeks in advance. Would be about $100 more expensive if I decided to stay longer than 15 days. The flight is only three and a half hours long and arrives at Clark around 23:00. After going through immigration and customs, which were both very quick, I decided to change my dollars, but the money exchange place at the airport was closed. I went outside and was offered a taxi, which I accepted, but forgot to agree on a solid price before I took it. I didn't know the value of the currency, and he was able to get away with charging me 500P upon arrival at the hotel. I later found out this trip to Fields area can cost as low as 200P.

On the way to my hotel I told the driver I needed to change money and he took me to the checkpoint area on Fields Av to do so. Upon exiting the taxi I had a culture shock and was really paranoid about getting robbed. Since reading about all the scams and other negatives about the place, I didn't know what to expect over there. Fields Av was very safe and basic street smarts go a long way. Little did I know that 15 days later I would be leaving that place almost crying because I loved it so much, regardless of how rough it looked.

I reserved a standard room at the Orchid Inn for $29 a day. The room had everything I needed such as air conditioning, hot water, cable tv, and a comfortable big size bed. Room service was fast and the staff was courteous. The only things I didn't like was not having a safe in the room and the amount of noise around the first floor rooms. Just like someone mentioned here awhile ago, I went to the 7-11 next day and stocked up on drinks and snacks, just to avoid paying the higher prices for the same stuff already in the hotel room.

I decided to go check out the bars around 12:30 in the morning. I started walking on Fields without any sense of direction and ended up in the Camelot, which looked really cool with the medieval theme. In no time I had 6 waitresses around me massaging me all over the place and talking to me. I came to find out that barhopping can be nearly impossible for me, because I can't ever get passed the fist bar of the night without barfining someone. I guess it ended up working out okay since the barfined girls usually wanted to barhop a little and that way I could check out who to barfine the next few days ahead of me in the other bars.

For the most part, the barfine still costs 1200P and everything you do behind closed doors is negotiable beforehand. The funniest thing was when I would tell mamasan at the Blue Nile what I liked and she would quickly point to a group of girls that did those things as if they had filled the details out on a job application. Out of all the girls I had in those 15 days, only 2 were unenthusiastic and 1 had a bad smelling pussy. Most of them were happy to stay with me the whole night and day until they had to go back home to prepare for work. I would take them to breakfast and tip them from 300P to 500P depending on service. It seemed they appreciated, but never pressured me to tip them.

During the afternoon it was very crucial to take a nap and recharge my energies for the night. Sometimes I would go to the Dollhouse around 2 pm and play pool with the waitresses just out of boredom. Once I barfined a spotlight dancer from there and she was very good in bed. I was glad, because for 3000P I was really expecting some quality sex. The spotlight dancers seemed much more fit and flexible than the regular dancers and they do some dance routine doing splits and other sexy moves wearing a thong. Nothing really special for the price increase, it just happened she was my type of girl.

After 4 to 5 days my main worry was switching from getting the right girls to having enough energy for them. I tried out cialis for the first time and it worked for me better than viagra. I only bought it from the pharmacy, not from the street vendors, so I don't know if their stuff was real or not. I took a trip to Subic Bay for 2 days to break the routine and see/do something different. I wanted to go to Mt. Pinatubo, but one waitress told me the area around it was too dangerous to go alone or with a girl, so I didn't go. My last week was marked by the typhoon that destroyed metro Manila. The Orchid had generator power, but sometimes it would fall offline but not for too long. I barfined the same girl I had the day before afraid the bars weren't going to operate that night. Unfortunately the rain stopped and power came back later after that and I missed out on the opportunity to have another girl.

My last night I decided to get drunk and barhop. I had 2 "boom booms" that day and an afternoon bj, so I was sure there wasn't going to be any temptations to bf few hours before leaving. Spent my last hour in the Classroom with the girls I had bf for my first threesome few days before. The manager was a really cool American guy and he bought me a few drinks. To top it off I rang the bell and kissed all the dancers. I didn't want to leave this place anymore, I was hooked for life.

Going back through customs at Clark I had to pay 300P, luckly I had some change from all the drinks left on me.

If there's one piece of advice I can give, I would tell anyone considering going for the first time to just go and experience it. If you like women, there will be no regrets about this place, only addiction to return. It's never too early or too late in life to visit AC.

Perimeter bars are cheaper in general. Local drinks (Beers and Rum/coke) all day are P50 and you can get P35 or P40 Happy Hour (the time changes depending on the bar). Local drinks on Fields are P85 and happy hour you can get P55 or P60 (usually between 6-8pm). Ladies drinks at Perimeter are P100 and on fields are P150. Bar fines at Perimter are P1000 and Fields is P1200 or P1300 depending on bar.

Perimeter bars offer a cheaper alternative, but the quality and quantity of talent is lower. For example, if you hit several Perimeter bars you may see a few 8s. On fields if you hit one of the bigger bars (Champagne, Blue Nile, Lancelot) you will see a several 8s and a few 9s in the same bar. Although some of the prettiest are usually cherry regardless of the bar.

FYI- exchange rate is falling and is right at P50 to $1 right now.

Happy Hunting.

[QUOTE=Senser]Wow. Pitender, that was great post. Thanks a lot. Glad to hear that you had a lot of fun.

Atall,

How much is the price difference between fields and perimeter bars concerning drinks, ladies drinks and barfine? Perimeter should be cheaper, but why is everybody going to fields? (me=AC Noob)

Second question: You guys really eat in the bars without having stomach ache or something similar? [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cebu Local].I would understand a girl getting a little crazy after customers like that.My 2 centavos opinion[/QUOTE]That's true but also very sad.

I can't understand those guys.

Maybe it's my age (21) that makes me have a too 'romantic' attitude on having sex. I don't allege that I can please every woman, but if I a girl doesn't have fun AT ALL (=force her to drink my pee f.ex.) then I can't have fun either. If you are friendly to them, phil bargirls will do everything to please you. If you treat them like shit, they will treat you and 'your sex' (you paid for it) like shit too.

Exception: rip-off girls and runners. But again, not every runner is a 'real runner', you can minimize the chance of having such a bad experience if you treat them well. If a night has 6 hours, bargirls get an hourly payment of 100 pesos per hour. I'm a student, but for the double amount I still wouldn't even move my little finger... I always keep that in my mind.

I was often in Thailand but never in The Philippines. But, I thinking about going to AC.
From the pic here I would say the Phil babes looks better than the usual Pattaya Thai Chicks from Isan.
Well, now to the questions.
As far I understand the barfine is quite high in AC, regarding to Pattaya. The difference is the bar fine includes the money for the girl, or? Just a tip from 300 Peso or so is usual, or?
What is with Anal, do Philippine girls this?
AC do not have a beach, or? What can tourists do at daytime?
How far is it from AC to Manila?
Can somebody recommend a good Hotel there for about 30 $ a day with Safty Box in the Room?

RTFF as your laziness not to research the answers to your questions is nothing but a slap in the face of all the members who take the time out of there valuable day to write a report. When I see this shit it just pisses me off.

[QUOTE=Senser]Maybe it's my age (21) that makes me have a too 'romantic' attitude on having sex. [/QUOTE]I'm going to give you some advice. Please print this message out and tape it on the wall.

Right now, in life, do not think of romance or love with women. Yep, get it out of your mind. Dont think of trips to these getaway places, nope, not yet.

All I can say is save save save. Go to Vanguard or Fidelity and open up a mutual fund. Buy some stocks off of the dividend achievers list and hold them. Concentrate on your career.

Women will do nothing but to distract you. Well, let me give you this prime example. Roommates. Right now, roommates are really cool to you. You have someone to talk with, no problems. However, then you find one day they rip you off out of the rent, they take your stuff, etc.

Women are the same way. They seem cool, at first, but then there are other negative factors that are not apparent. You have not been in a court in front of a judge, yet, I bet. Imagine that experience in a divorce court. You have not committed any crime yet you have to justify yourself in front of a judge. It is not fun and wrong in many ways.

Women take up your time and distract you from your goals. They spend your money that you worked hard for.

Dont worry about the Filipinas. They are some tough women and do fight back against a**holes. I have not met one yet who didnt have a tough woman type attitude. Some are real sweet, but they do get real mean when they have to.

So dont worry about dates and taking them to dinner. Dont worry about romance or dating. Simply save and have sex on the cheap. In 5 years, then you have my permission to go out there and get real serious. Right now, those are the standing orders I have issued you. Save, career and sex. Use a condom so you dont get anyone pregnant.

Your mission is to go to college, graduate, get a job and save/invest. Women are only secondary. Any questions?

[QUOTE=DG69]I was often in Thailand but never in The Philippines. But, I thinking about going to AC.
From the pic here I would say the Phil babes looks better than the usual Pattaya Thai Chicks from Isan.
Well, now to the questions.
As far I understand the barfine is quite high in AC, regarding to Pattaya. The difference is the bar fine includes the money for the girl, or? Just a tip from 300 Peso or so is usual, or?
What is with Anal, do Philippine girls this?
AC do not have a beach, or? What can tourists do at daytime?
How far is it from AC to Manila?
Can somebody recommend a good Hotel there for about 30 $ a day with Safty Box in the Room?[/QUOTE]

Barfine pays for the girl as well. Average BF prices ranges from 1000P to 1300P depending on the bar. Tip is optional, but not tipping can give you bad reputation in a bar. I tipped 500P for great service, 300P for average, and nothing for bad service.

I found anal and swallowers very hard to find. The easiest way to know is by going straight to mamasan and requesting a 3 holer.

The beach is about 2 hours away. Some people usually play golf. I was more than happy with just screwing, playing pool, or sleeping.

AC is about 2 hours from Manila by car. Average cost for the trip is 2500P.

I suggest you check this site [url]http://www.balibago.com/where_to_stay.html[/url] and research which hotel looks right for you. This site has maps of the bar areas and most of the hotels are there as well [url]http://www.acmap.com/main.asp[/url]

Has anyone stayed at Central Park Hotel? It seems like a good deal at $29 per night and more importantly it has an in room safe. I did a search and could not find any information on it. I would also like information on other cheap hotels that have a in room safe. Thanks

[QUOTE=Csun213]Has anyone stayed at Central Park Hotel? It seems like a good deal at $29 per night and more importantly it has an in room safe. I did a search and could not find any information on it. I would also like information on other cheap hotels that have a in room safe. Thanks[/QUOTE]
The Central Park Hotel is quite nice: [url]www.centralpark-ac.com[/url]
Most AC hotels have a room safe. Just scroll down a few posts and check out the website Whoring Bum suggested for a list of hotels in AC.

I just wanted to thank everyone for putting up such great info. I usually monger in Tland, but I had to give PI a chance. So I'll be in Angeles tonight.

Reading off of peoples posts, seems like the suggestion are:

Illusions
Insomnia
Lollipops
Road House
Blue Nile

Is there a club called Century??? Also, any massage parlor info would be appreciated.

Thanks
Poon Hunter

[QUOTE=Aussie Mate]

Also, does anyone have any updated information on the Typhoon that just passed through? Is AC still standing? Are all the bars and hotels intact?

Aussie[/QUOTE]

The typhoon never really hit AC. So it's still standing. Checked Fields last nite and it looked pretty slow though, as far as customers go. Just get over here, the are a lot of surly looking fuglies with Jollibee paddings all over Fields waiting for you! Oh did I mention the US $ just get's you 49.70-49.80 at the money changers in AC now. These are hard times for lovers..Ha ha.

Any freelancers in Angel?

Where is possible to find them?

Oh, alot of good advice on my questions, thank you guys.
I think I will also go to the Philippines, end of October, instead LOS.
Maybe I shall stay a view days in Manila and after to AC. Is it easy to go score freebee in Manila Discos?
What are the best Nightclub or Disco in Manila? I guess in AC are no freelancer in Nightclubs like in Pattaya?
The Hotel prices in AC sounds reasonable.

Stayed at Central Park (CP) two trips ago and the experience was not good. Here is why:

My plane was two hours late and the driver from CP did not wait for me. He was on his way back to AC when I called him so he returned and picked me up at the APort. He had his wife with him. They both treated me like I was a leper. When I got to the hotel they charged me an extra 1000p for the pick-up. They said it was because the driver had to turn around and go back to the airport.

It did not stop there. During my stay I gave the desk clerks explicit instructions to call my room when a certain lady arrived. Two times they ignored my request and just turned her away.

Yes, the price for a room is great but, beware.

[QUOTE=Mattrick]The Central Park Hotel is quite nice: [url]www.centralpark-ac.com[/url]
Most AC hotels have a room safe. Just scroll down one post and check out the website Whoring Bum suggested for a list of hotels in AC.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pitender]Perimeter bars are cheaper in general. Local drinks (Beers and Rum/coke) all day are P50 and you can get P35 or P40 Happy Hour (the time changes depending on the bar).

[/QUOTE]

Just one tiny little remark. In Perimeter Road the action starts already around lunchtime when most places at Fields are still closed. Consequently many Perimeter girls are booked at 8pm so that some bars shut at 10pm.

Cheers - Hesekiels

[QUOTE=Billpsu]Stayed at Central Park (CP) two trips ago and the experience was not good.[/QUOTE]
Hello Bill,

Yeah many nice hotels lack good customer service which boils down to the how the hotel is managed. Did you lodge a complaint with the manager? Or maybe even drop a hint to the owner. Did you fly into Clark Field?

[QUOTE=Play No Games]Hi DG69,

One of the things I have found reading all of the back posts on this is spending time in Manila/Makati is a must!. I did not see one previous post that suggested not to. I am going to spend some time in those areas as well, because they have so much to offer plus you get to experience the culture of the Philippines during the day where in Angeles City there is none. I am going to spend a couple of days on what is called Burgos Street in Makati and will be staying at the Penninsula Hotel which has high marks here on the board. Senior and respected member Good Enough posted that this is his preferred choice for a hotel in this area. It is one of the more expensive hotels but you get what you pay for as the cliche goes. I am also going to spend some time mongering in the Manila area as the LA CAFE is a must from what I have read, and then I can also go to the Edsa Complex which is a series of bars that are enclosed under one roof. If you have not done so you REALLY need to do some reading of the past posts members made. Some of them are really awesome. Doing both the Manila area and Angeles City will also prepare you better for your future visits.[/QUOTE]

One more reason to visit the Makati/Manila area is the opportunity for sexual experiences available there that some have mentioned hard to find in AC. You are more likely to be successful finding two girls for a Threesome at the bars on P. Burgos street than in AC.

FF

[QUOTE=Frequent Flier]One more reason to visit the Makati/Manila area is the opportunity for sexual experiences available there that some have mentioned hard to find in AC. You are more likely to be successful finding two girls for a Threesome at the bars on P. Burgos street than in AC.

[/QUOTE]

I am most curious to learn a little more about that kind of sexual experience that one could have in Makati, but not in AC! I had, however, several times girls for a great threesome in the promised city of Pampanga. Now I am wondering what else could be more special in the capital? Maybe somebody can enlighten me?

Cheers - Hesekiels

There are a few things that I found confusing when I first did research on AC. So, for the benefit of those who have yet to go:

Taking a regular bus to Angeles (for the adventurous only) you actually get off at the bus terminal called Dau/ Mabalacat. Dau is the town just north of Angeles.

The bar area is quite a ways north of downtown Angeles.

There is a road running north south call MacArthur. Fron downtown Angeles going north you will hit the turn off for Fields ave, which runs east / west. If you continue on MacArthur you will pass the Clark AB entrance.

If you are in a taxi from Manila, it is easy to miss the Fields turn off. But immediately after Fields is the main gate entrance for Clark. Tell the taxi to turn left...and then you should be able to make another left to get onto Fields. I say "maybe" because I know there has been some development in that area, so things may have changed.

??? Can someone clarify. I remember by bus I ended up in Dau (to the north), but by taxi I came in from the south. Did the taxi get off the highway too early? Which exit do you use?

Going west on Fields (you can't go east) you will immediately be in the main bar area. Continuing on the name of the road changes to Don Juico Ave, but everyone calls it Perimeter because it runs along the south Permiter fence of the base (or what used to be a base). So Fields and Perimter are actually the same road.

By the way, EZ maps has a map of Angeles City as well as most other places mentioned on the Philippines board. You might also searchfor Waynes AC map.

X

[QUOTE=Hesekiels]Just one tiny little remark. In Perimeter Road the action starts already around lunchtime when most places at Fields are still closed. Consequently many Perimeter girls are booked at 8pm so that some bars shut at 10pm.

Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hesekiels]I am most curious to learn a little more about that kind of sexual experience that one could have in Makati, but not in AC! I had, however, several times girls for a great threesome in the promised city of Pampanga. Now I am wondering what else could be more special in the capital? Maybe somebody can enlighten me?

Cheers - Hesekiels[/QUOTE]


I too have had Threesomes in AC as well as in Makati and in Hong Kong, since we are opening our souls here, with beautiful Filipinas. Actually it was a foursome in Hong Kong.
My point was that it does take some experience on who to pick and when asking for what you desire reading between the lines to be sure that you are going to receive what you expect from your two chosen companions.
In Makati I found more girls willing to do a threesome with no inhibitions. You know, once you get there it is more of a one on one experience with each girl while the other watches TV. More of the girls in Makati seem more mature or sensual about what they are doing. I guess that is the best way that I can explain.

In Hong Kong they are always asking if you would prefer this, but that is a different situation.

Also I have found girls in Makati more than willing to let you explore as long as they feel comfortable with you. Something I always strive to make the girl feel. I think that sometimes a mongers desire to be a king in this fine country is really why they find less than willing companions.

And in case some readers are not aware, the prices in Makati are much higher

FF

[QUOTE=Frequent Flier] More of the girls in Makati seem more mature or sensual about what they are doing. I guess that is the best way that I can explain.

[/QUOTE]


Indeed a highly interesting point! As far as I am concerned reason enough for a thorough comparing field study! :)

Cheers - Hesekiels

I arrived in Manila last night at 11:00, and went to wait for my driver at the arrivals extension. As a side note, I was real interested in the Philippine immigration form, as their official email address is a Hotmail account (!!!) and it is apparently illegal to bring more than P10,000 (USD 200) into the country in pesos (other currency is okay). Weird.

When I arrived at the arrivals extension, one of the security guys started trying to pimp out one of his friends, who was waiting there for unknown reasons. Within 10 minutes of arriving in the PI, I got a cell phone number of a girl. I love this place!!!!

Since I booked so late (1 night ahead!), I couldn't get a room at Central Park, but I did use their driver (they seemed more okay with the late arrival than Amsterdam, which is where I'm staying). I think he was the same guy who was complained about in recent posts (he also had his wife along, who slept the whole way). But, unlike my fellow poster, he was perfectly nice to me, led me in some conversation, and let me snooze a little bit in the car on the way to AC. Also showed me some cool video on his mobile of his recent hike up Mt. Pinatubo. Didn't charge me any extra either.

Checked in with no problem at the Amsterdam, and went out to explore Fields. I started around 12:30 am.

Gilley's Roadhouse Grill - Tried this place first because Amsterdam gave me a free drink coupon. Walked in and was the only guy there. Girls were decked out in very nice schoolgirl-ish outfits, and while drank my free San Miguel, talked and joked with the girls on stage and the waitresses. When they found out I was a "cherry boy" to the PI, they started pointing out the "cherry girls" (yeah, right! hehe) in the bar. Two cute ones, Nove and Che-Che, promised they'd knock on my door after their work ended. Nice place, with no pressure for drinks, and a very good selection of pretty girls (at 1 am, there were about 15-20 girls there).

Angels - Walking back towards Amsterdam, decided to check this place out, because the touts outside were funny. Okay atmosphere, tons of girls, just dancing. About 4-5 other guys there too. Ended up just talking to the waitresses about AC and the area, as I told them I was too tired to take anyone home that night (and at that point, I was!) and was just enjoying the view. Also no pressure for lady drinks, though I tipped the waitress for talking to me for 20 minutes.

Blue Nile - Walked in, and walked right out. Thought it was Thailand rebranded for the PI. The most crowded place I saw last night, both in girls and customers, and while I'm sure it would be a real nice place when you're in a group, going in by myself just seemed odd. Went next door to -

Nero's Forum - Okay place, sat at the stage, joked with some of the dancers. Ended up talking to Melva, one of the waitresses, and buying her a drink. Offered to come back to my room and just give me a massage, and I told her I would think about it. Her fellow waitress, a little rotund thing, was almost insistent on me taking Melva home. Turned me off a little bit.

Dirty Duck - This place was below the standards of the other places, although it could have been the time of night. There were only 5 girls dancing, and to be honest, the hottest girl there was one of the waitresses! Ended up talking to her and one of the other waitresses, buying them both drinks, and then talking to the mamasan (who was real friendly) while the 2 waitresses massaged me at the table for about 20 minutes. Friendly place, just dead at 3:30.

By this time (3:30) it was late, a lot of the places were closed, and I was headed back to the Amsterdam when I heard my name from one of the Pilippino food joints on the road. It was some of the girls from Roadhouse, my first stop of the night. Went and chatted to them, but my mind was made up, and went back to Nero's Forum and barfined Melva for 1,200.

Amsterdam security was nonexistant at 4:00 am. The guard was asleep at the door, and the front desk didn't ask for the girl's ID or anything. So I'm going to be a little careful while I'm here.

Melva gave me a nice massage for about 45 minutes, then we had a very slow, very comfortable sex session without me even asking or expecting it, as I really was tired. It's a compliment to her hands that I was able to "wake up" in the first place!

We slept for a couple of hours, then she woke me up at 7 saying she was hungry. I let her go with 200 for food and trike, as I wanted to just go back to sleep, and did so.

So now I'm eating room service and planning my night. I'll try some of the bigger places tonight, and bring back a girl earlier. Still looking for a drinking partner in AC, if anyone else here is flying solo or if there's someone who wouldn't mind giving a "cherry boy" some pointers about AC. But at this point, I love this place (so much friendlier and cheaper than Thailand!!) and am probably going to extend my stay another couple of days, to a full week. Still not long enough!

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[QUOTE=Crazy Ami]I arrived in Manila last night at 11:00, and went to wait for my driver at the arrivals extension. As a side note, I was real interested in the Philippine immigration form, as their official email address is a Hotmail account (!!!) and it is apparently illegal to bring more than P10,000 (USD 200) into the country in pesos (other currency is okay). Weird.

When I arrived at the arrivals extension, one of the security guys started trying to pimp out one of his friends, who was waiting there for unknown reasons. Within 10 minutes of arriving in the PI, I got a cell phone number of a girl. I love this place!!!!

Since I booked so late (1 night ahead!), I couldn't get a room at Central Park, but I did use their driver (they seemed more okay with the late arrival than Amsterdam, which is where I'm staying). I think he was the same guy who was complained about in recent posts (he also had his wife along, who slept the whole way). But, unlike my fellow poster, he was perfectly nice to me, led me in some conversation, and let me snooze a little bit in the car on the way to AC. Also showed me some cool video on his mobile of his recent hike up Mt. Pinatubo. Didn't charge me any extra either.

Checked in with no problem at the Amsterdam, and went out to explore Fields. I started around 12:30 am.

Gilley's Roadhouse Grill - Tried this place first because Amsterdam gave me a free drink coupon. Walked in and was the only guy there. Girls were decked out in very nice schoolgirl-ish outfits, and while drank my free San Miguel, talked and joked with the girls on stage and the waitresses. When they found out I was a "cherry boy" to the PI, they started pointing out the "cherry girls" (yeah, right! hehe) in the bar. Two cute ones, Nove and Che-Che, promised they'd knock on my door after their work ended. Nice place, with no pressure for drinks, and a very good selection of pretty girls (at 1 am, there were about 15-20 girls there).

Angels - Walking back towards Amsterdam, decided to check this place out, because the touts outside were funny. Okay atmosphere, tons of girls, just dancing. About 4-5 other guys there too. Ended up just talking to the waitresses about AC and the area, as I told them I was too tired to take anyone home that night (and at that point, I was!) and was just enjoying the view. Also no pressure for lady drinks, though I tipped the waitress for talking to me for 20 minutes.

Blue Nile - Walked in, and walked right out. Thought it was Thailand rebranded for the PI. The most crowded place I saw last night, both in girls and customers, and while I'm sure it would be a real nice place when you're in a group, going in by myself just seemed odd. Went next door to -

Nero's Forum - Okay place, sat at the stage, joked with some of the dancers. Ended up talking to Melva, one of the waitresses, and buying her a drink. Offered to come back to my room and just give me a massage, and I told her I would think about it. Her fellow waitress, a little rotund thing, was almost insistent on me taking Melva home. Turned me off a little bit.

Dirty Duck - This place was below the standards of the other places, although it could have been the time of night. There were only 5 girls dancing, and to be honest, the hottest girl there was one of the waitresses! Ended up talking to her and one of the other waitresses, buying them both drinks, and then talking to the mamasan (who was real friendly) while the 2 waitresses massaged me at the table for about 20 minutes. Friendly place, just dead at 3:30.

By this time (3:30) it was late, a lot of the places were closed, and I was headed back to the Amsterdam when I heard my name from one of the Pilippino food joints on the road. It was some of the girls from Roadhouse, my first stop of the night. Went and chatted to them, but my mind was made up, and went back to Nero's Forum and barfined Melva for 1,200.

Amsterdam security was nonexistant at 4:00 am. The guard was asleep at the door, and the front desk didn't ask for the girl's ID or anything. So I'm going to be a little careful while I'm here.

Melva gave me a nice massage for about 45 minutes, then we had a very slow, very comfortable sex session without me even asking or expecting it, as I really was tired. It's a compliment to her hands that I was able to "wake up" in the first place!

We slept for a couple of hours, then she woke me up at 7 saying she was hungry. I let her go with 200 for food and trike, as I wanted to just go back to sleep, and did so.

So now I'm eating room service and planning my night. I'll try some of the bigger places tonight, and bring back a girl earlier. Still looking for a drinking partner in AC, if anyone else here is flying solo or if there's someone who wouldn't mind giving a "cherry boy" some pointers about AC. But at this point, I love this place (so much friendlier and cheaper than Thailand!!) and am probably going to extend my stay another couple of days, to a full week. Still not long enough!

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Great write up. Looking forward to read more of your advanture. I am also a Cherry boy who will be going to AC for the first time in mid Nov.

Could someone detail the BJ bars in AC? Do they still exist? Any experiences appreciated!

Peace,

DF

Good afternoon! Crazy Ami here, with Day 2 of my Angeles Adventures.

Having finished my Day 1 report, I saddled up and headed out to explore some more. Since I didn't leave my hotel room until 4 o'clock, I missed the bar's openings, but that wasn't what I wanted to do just yet.

Walked a good ways down Fields until I got to Margarita Station. It's a big place, with a large menu of food. Had a lemonade, played some free pool, talked to some retirees. As I was sitting near the front facade (the front is covered by metal netting to let the air in), I talked with one of the street hawkers named CJ, who actually impressed me by naming the capital of my home state in the US. If I ever need any fake Viagra, I'll go to him! Ha.

After MS, I walked back to the vicinity of my hotel while one of the retirees who I met showed me around and gave me some recommendations. To the credit of this board, nothing he mentioned was something that I hadn't heard about on this board before. Kudos, gents!

After he shuffled off (around 5-ish), I went to Blow Road (Santos Rd, off of Fields; take a right out of Amsterdam, first side street on your left). The short time places were exactly what was described; little holes in the wall with 5 or 6 girls calling out for you. Went into one because one of the girls called me Harry Potter (don't ask). Ended up with *** (name forgotten), a 38-yr old veteran, and Jane, a 19 year old newbie (so they said), who was incredibly short, cute, nice large breasts, and great energy. *** gave me an Ice job BBBJCIM which was okay, while I played with Jane's body, and then to get *** out, told her I was shy, and then proceeded to have a nice session with Jane for about 25 minutes. When I couldn't finish (after all, I had just finished with ***), she took it as a challenge ("This is my first short time, you need to cum!!!"), she gave me, hands down, one of the best BBBJs I have ever experienced, for about 45 minutes straight. When I was about to finish, she'd sense it, stop, and let me relax. Don't remember which hole in the wall it was, but if you can find Jane, she comes HIGHLY recommended. 1,200 pesos for ST for both girls together (although not a true 3-way, wasn't asking for one). Lasted about 2 hours total.

Ate at the restaurant above Treasure Island on Fields (Aruzzo's? Italian/European food, the jaegerschnitzel was huge and tasty), then headed off to some clubs. Since I tend to wander up and down the street before picking a club at random, these are in no logical order, but if you want to find their location, pretty much every club in town is on [url]www.acmap.com[/url].

- Classroom 2 - Earlier that day, the boss, a white guy named Tango, gave me his card and told me to come back. I thought, "Why the hell not," and checked his place out first. Nice place, about 20 girls, most around 5-6, a couple of 7-8s, and one 9 who was obviously new and very shy on the stage. Had a San Miguel, thanked Tango, and moved on.

- Insomnia - Not impressed at all. I think I arrived right at a shift change (9:30??), because as I arrived, about 15 girls left the stage and disappeared, leaving about 10 girls on stage, most of them not incredibly pleasing to the eye. One "dancer" had flab hanging over her huge granny panties and kept trying to catch my eye.. *shudder* Ended up drinking my San Miguel and watching the Yankees-Tigers game which had just started on the TV at the bar. Left after joking with Mamasan that I wasn't leaving with a girl because I could "make myself happy just as easily."

- Camelot - laid out very similarly to Blue Nile, but a seemingly friendlier atmosphere (IMHO). Ended up spending a lot of money here, (comparatively for the PI) but only because I consciously thought to do so. Talked with Leidre, 2 other dancers, and 2 waitresses. Leidre was very very cute, pretty schoolgirl-ish face, and also very new ("started 1 week ago..cherry girl").. all the girls are cherry girls, huh? Riiiight. Bought a round of drinks for the girls and got massages from all of them. Got my picture taken by one of the roving cameramen with about 7 of the girls.. I have to pick the photo up tonight at the bar. Thought about barfining Leidre, but it was still early, and didn't want to walk in awkwardly tomorrow, and also didn't want to deal with a shy girl this night.

- Bunny Ranch - Was walking back towards Amsterdam from Camelot, and one girl from this place stood in front of me and said, "SIR! Bunny Ranch!" and raised her hands as if to block me, with a smile. I said, "Oh, are you going to make me?" She laughed and said "AAH! Too big!" (I'm well over 6 ft tall, closer to 2 meters, actually) But she was nice and funny, so let her and another waitress lead me in "unwillingly." Damn me, but I can't remember either of their names (had been drinking a bit by then), but they were both waitresses, not dancers, and were both very very cute, one taller and thinner, with a great smile and dark, almost Indian skin, and the other was shorter and slightly bigger built, but still very nice and feminine. Got along great with both of them, and we must have talked for over an hour. The taller one tried to catch me in a drunk mistake and said, "Oh, you smart! You have IQ of 99.9!" I looked at her and said, "That would make me stupid!" and did my Forrest Gump impression. She laughed and said most guys who she told that too didn't get the joke, and would just say Thank you! So we laughed, and then she told her friend and another girl in Tagalog about what we were laughing about...and they didn't get it either. I don't know, it was the highlight of my night, conversation wise. Declined offer to barhop with them, as I was flying solo, and still had the intention of taking a girl home for some less intelligent action.

I then walked along Fields, heading back towards Amsterdam, and then saw a small side street with 3 clubs on it, Butterfly Rock, Bar Hoppin', and Checkers. Passed Butterfly Rock, and went into

- Bar Hoppin' - Small bar, girls not that impressive, about 6 girls on stage, rating variously between 4-7. Almost immediately asked to pick a girl, etc. I hate that. Walked out.

- Checkers - Right next door (in same building), and later I found out that the same guy owns this place and Bar Hoppin', but Checkers just had a better atmosphere. About 15 girls total, with about 6-7 on the stage at once. Started getting the eye from a dancer sitting at the bar, and eventually had her come over. Joralyn, been there for 2 months and according to one of the waitresses, her "best friend," she hadn't been barfined there yet. Sure. Anyway, we sat and kissed and generally fondled each other for about 2 hours. Talked with the owner, Don, an American guy who'd been there for about 7 years; good guy, gave me a free drink. Finally ended up barfining Joralyn for 1300 pesos, then returned to my room. Great session, she was crazy and fun, and then we woke up at 10:00 this morning and went at it again. Got the first experience of the girls not wanting to leave until you basically kick them out. Luckily, Amsterdam wanted me to change rooms that day (apparently someone had requested my specific room before I registered, so I moved to another room of the same quality), so I had to pack my stuff, etc, so I sent her on her way. But only after I took some pictures!! She was very very shy at first, but finally warmed up to it, so I was able to take a few pictures until she said "Enough."

Another great day. I've just ordered an in-house therapeutic massage from the front desk, so we'll see how that goes. Stay tuned for tomorrow's report!

Crazy Ami

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Ami

Great post. I'll be there in 2 weeks. If you're still around, I'll have that beer with you.

Egg

The well known bj bars are on Santo's Street. Heaven, Balck Pearl, etc. As you walk down Santo's from fields they are on the right hand side.

On a good afternoon, with the right frame of mind, making your way down and having a beer here and there can be a lot of fun. Remember, the girls are not the best looking, however, my experience is they can be a lot of fun and very accomodating.

Most bars charge a 600p s/t barfine, or 1100 for l/t. I have had a bj in house, however, a girls working area is "very small." Once I had to stand on the bed.

A real hoot is the fact some of the bars are right across from the Wild Orchid. What a contrast, a new hotel trying to give off an appearance of elegance, and the good old Santo's Street girls acting up right across the street.

Some bars on Perimeter Road also offer in-house bj's, but the Santo's Street girls are masters of the art.

[QUOTE=Dafacer]Could someone detail the BJ bars in AC? Do they still exist? Any experiences appreciated!

Peace,

DF[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Billpsu]The well known bj bars are on Santo's Street. Heaven, Balck Pearl, etc. As you walk down Santo's from fields they are on the right hand side.

On a good afternoon, with the right frame of mind, making your way down and having a beer here and there can be a lot of fun. Remember, the girls are not the best looking, however, my experience is they can be a lot of fun and very accomodating.

Most bars charge a 600p s/t barfine, or 1100 for l/t. I have had a bj in house, however, a girls working area is "very small." Once I had to stand on the bed.

A real hoot is the fact some of the bars are right across from the Wild Orchid. What a contrast, a new hotel trying to give off an appearance of elegance, and the good old Santo's Street girls acting up right across the street.

Some bars on Perimeter Road also offer in-house bj's, but the Santo's Street girls are masters of the art.[/QUOTE]You should be able to get service for 500, always negotiate and think in pesos.

I noticed a lot of 1st timers going to AC, so I thought I'd submit some tips,

Here's my pattern of barhopping in AC. Start out your day out on Perimeter and work your way back to Fields at night. Hit Honey Ko's, Tee Times, Nasty Duck, Limited Edition, Gentleman's Club, Stampede, Nifties and a couple of new bars: Brass Knob and Dr. Something*(can't remember name). You'll find these bars more like neighborhood bars with small dance floors with girls. They have great happy hour prices and the lady drink prices are less. You'll find some great girls in these places, more GFE. Some great girls work in Perimeter because they can be noticed here, as apposed to Fields bars. Do your interview before you buy ladies drinks and you'll find some real gems. Barfines are 1000 in these bars. Try Country Kitchen (Cajun) or Zapata's Mexican for dinner. If the owners come by and asks how long you are staying say "a week or two" and you might get a drink out of the deal. Feel free to say hi to the owners in these bars, they are more customer service oriented. There are short time rooms next to Limited Edition, but I have never used them.

If you like playing pool check out Kokomo's upstairs. You can play pool with the girls up there and you can barfine one for 1000. I once barfined a cutie from there who had just left Nero's.

[QUOTE=FireWalker]Start out your day out on Perimeter and work your way back to Fields at night. [/quote]Exactly my agenda as well.[quote]Hit Honey Ko's, Tee Times, Nasty Duck, Limited Edition, Gentleman's Club, Stampede, Nifties and a couple of new bars: Brass Knob and Dr. Something*(can't remember name).[/quote]
Dr. Holmes, but I don't like it too much. Of the new bars I prefer Brass Knob.[quote]You'll find some great girls in these places, more GFE. Some great girls work in Perimeter because they can be noticed here, as apposed to Fields bars. Do your interview before you buy ladies drinks and you'll find some real gems.[/quote]
Can't agree more. Often I even don't make it down to Fields.

Another one for 1st timer about SMB and SMB-Light. Often Light is interpreted as reduced percentage of alcohol. Here it's not the case, both have 5%, Light is simply less calories and thats it. And since you'll never see the bottle itself, be aware of it. Otherwise the "light" might bounce back, hehe.

Cheers!

I am planning a trip for January, I am going to be in BKK for a month before and I am going to take airasia, they say that they fly to clark afb. I wanted to make sure that this is true and than I know that I dont have to look around for a taxi or shuttle to AC from Manilla. I have read a lot of the posts and I thank everyone for their info because it is very helpfull.

[QUOTE=Ekspat]Dr. Holmes, but I don't like it too much.[/QUOTE]

Actually it's Dr. Holm's. It was not that bad last night when I checked it. Small line up with only 3-4 dancers each group on a small stage, but at least all were dancing and smiling most of the time. No Jolibees on stage, which I appreciate. I don't go to a bar to watch fat women. Period. Friendly staff and SML @ 50 peso's a pop. WIR=yes.

I know that a lot of guys will take the girl out for a long time however I just can not sleep with a girl in my room. Just wondering if the cost is the same for short time vs long time? Also would it be unusal for me to ask the girl to leave after 1 shot? Thanks

Just arrange with the girl in the bar that you only want ST and I am sure she will be most happy to accomadate you. See if you can get a discount also you might or might not depends. Frankly If Iwas you I would just go ST in the Bar itself (Most have back rooms)and get your shot in and be done with it. ST is usually 500 pasos with a full barfine at 1000-1200.

[QUOTE=Csun213]I know that a lot of guys will take the girl out for a long time however I just can not sleep with a girl in my room. Just wondering if the cost is the same for short time vs long time? Also would it be unusal for me to ask the girl to leave after 1 shot? Thanks[/QUOTE]

Most of the girls will be happy to leave after one shot, in fact some will even try without being asked. While most of the tourist bars on Fields offer only LT ie you'll have to pay the full fare 1200 even if you only require ST, many Perimeter bars do offer ST at a reduced rate. Even at LT Perimeter offer better bang for the buck. Enjoy AC!

[QUOTE=Csun213]I know that a lot of guys will take the girl out for a long time however I just can not sleep with a girl in my room. Just wondering if the cost is the same for short time vs long time? Also would it be unusal for me to ask the girl to leave after 1 shot? Thanks[/QUOTE]

I find it difficult to sleep with them as well. The only reason I do LT is so I can wake up to some pussy in the morning. A BBBJ would be nice first thing when you wake up but the bulk of the bargirls are pretty worthless in that regard.

But I must admit I haven't found to many who want to leave right away after only one shot. Usually they try to settle in for the night and it's kind of hard to get them to leave.